Tailgate Tour

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And welcome back to the

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Boundary Corner Podcast,

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along with my partners,

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Brian Seigla and Jonathan Talley.

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I am Curtis Wilson,

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and this episode is brought

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to you by Dr. Jeremy Counts,

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down at the Main Street Pharmacy,

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your friendly neighborhood pharmacy,

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301 South Main Street, Blacksburg,

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Virginia.

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And we are back, baby fellas.

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It's been a while since we got together.

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On the BCP.

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Yes, sir.

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We've been doing a lot of

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other things here and there

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for other podcasts and other things,

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but we're back.

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How's everybody doing this night?

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Tally, how's it going down south?

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The cicadas are taking over.

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I don't know if y'all are

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dealing with cicadas where you are.

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Oh, man.

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Out there in the world.

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That hum is continuous.

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Oh, my God, man.

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I...

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I can see why people kill themselves.

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I'm not making light of it, but seriously,

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if I got put... One of them

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got in my car.

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Oh, no.

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One of them got in my car.

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It was in the back.

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Luckily, it was right at the window.

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I let the wonder down and he flew out,

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but to hear that noise that close to me,

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if somebody put me in a

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room with a couple of them, yeah.

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I'm out of here, man.

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I'm trying to find my way to Jesus.

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But other than that, everything is good.

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Yeah, man, we got husks everywhere, man,

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on the cars.

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Oh, yeah, they're everywhere.

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On the porch.

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Have you hit one yet going down the road?

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No.

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But I have in the past.

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Nah, dude.

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I mean, again, they're everywhere here.

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So I've hit a couple going down the road.

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Sounds like a rock's hitting

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your windshield coming off

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of an 18-wheeler or something.

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So it's nasty, man.

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But other than that, everything is good.

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Cicadas suck.

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My son is back playing sports.

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We running all over the place.

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We were in Lake Point,

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Georgia two weekends ago.

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They had a local tournament

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this weekend at a cool high

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school field here.

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But that Lake Point, Georgia facility, man,

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if anybody has any kids

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that play baseball, like

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That is the Mecca that you

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want to take them to.

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A PBR tournament at Lake Point, Georgia.

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It's the nicest facility

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that I've been to.

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But anyway, Brian, how you feeling?

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How you been, man?

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Hold on.

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There's one thing we got to

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put up for Brian Talks.

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Robbie said just move to the mountains.

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You ain't got to worry about them.

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We'll have to worry about

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internet if we move to the mountains.

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Yeah, man.

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Yeah, man.

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I don't know.

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Robbie's internet was pretty

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good the last show he was on, man.

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He's moved.

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You know,

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a couple times he was at the school,

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wasn't he?

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Yes.

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He would go to the field

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house and post up at the field house,

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so he made sure he had internet there.

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Man, that's dedication, man.

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Shout out to Robbie Compton, man.

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Going to the field house on

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his off time to record for us.

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My brother, man.

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Brother from another mother.

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There we go.

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Absolutely.

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Man, it's been kind of wild over here.

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I have not had my truck for over a month.

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It's been in the shop.

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You didn't get it back?

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No, I haven't got it back yet.

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Not cool.

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What's wrong?

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When you drove the Camaro

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over to the house two Thursdays ago,

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I just thought easier to

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drive that than the truck.

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No, I still haven't got it back yet, man.

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You got a Camaro?

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Yeah.

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Dang, boy.

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I knew y'all was getting

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that money up there with you.

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That's my wife's car.

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She likes the Camaro.

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Oh, okay, okay.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Gotcha.

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Miss Siegler.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Miss Boundary Corner.

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There we go.

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Yeah.

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That's her.

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Curtis, what you been up to?

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Baseball, brother.

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I knew you was going to say that.

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Two kids in Little League, you know,

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I haven't been at that

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field four or five days a

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week pretty much like that since April.

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Like those episodes y'all

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saw me in on Tuesday night.

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I'm literally getting in,

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getting kids to bed and sliding in here.

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Running.

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Baseball, kids, you know,

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school's about to end up this way.

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Me and Brian's son getting

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out of elementary school.

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They will be middle schoolers next year.

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With Brian, that don't seem right, dude.

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No, it's not checking on this end.

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We got promotion coming up

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in a couple weeks.

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Yeah.

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It's not looking good over here.

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And then – Is it you or Mama?

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I'm okay.

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She's struggling a little bit.

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The worst part is going to

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be when he turns 11.

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That's also the first day of

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sixth grade too.

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Oh, okay.

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So, yeah,

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that's going to be a double

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whammy right there.

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Well, I'm telling you,

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you got a son about to turn 11.

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Your son about to turn 11, Brian?

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Yeah, he turns 11 in August.

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Well, enjoy your kids.

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People out there, Curtis,

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I know you got younger kids.

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Brian, you about to start feeling it.

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Enjoy your kids while they are young.

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My son came to me the other day.

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I was sitting watching TV,

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had a few moments where I

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didn't have to do nothing.

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Just kind of sprawled out on the couch,

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not doing nothing, playing on my phone.

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And he says, Dad,

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I think I'm about to start shaving.

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And I was like,

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you ain't got no hair to shave.

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He said, I'm talking about my balls.

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I was like... All right, man.

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That's enough.

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The things to look forward to, Curtis.

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That's enough TV for the day.

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Let me go to bed.

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We both got 11-year-olds

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going to middle school next year.

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Manscaped, if y'all out there listening,

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we got a sponsorship opportunity here.

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And I got manscaped already.

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I'm just wondering...

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What he needs to do, what he needed for.

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I don't want to ask.

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So I'm just saying,

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people with the young kids, enjoy them.

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We got a great show tonight.

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Curtis, what are we doing tonight, man?

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What we got?

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We got a lot of stuff we're

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unloading tonight.

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Back half of the episode,

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we're going to be looking

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at some retrospectives,

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some clips that we have

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taken roughly over the past year.

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A lot of good takes,

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a lot of good conversation about that.

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We're going to be talking about, obviously,

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the portal additions.

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But before we get kicked off

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with me and Brian's

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experience down at

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Hardywood and the tailgate tour,

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just a shout out.

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We got our boy up in Dreddy up in Philly.

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And Dreddy, I want you on that game.

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Mr. Jones.

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Mr. Jones.

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Mr. Jones in the building.

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Hey, less than two months.

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Less than two months.

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There you go.

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Andretti putting it out there.

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He wants not only us,

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but if you're a PCP fan.

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Maybe, Brian, you're the technical guy.

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Oh, I got it.

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PCP room.

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Yeah, we're going to get it going.

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Maybe we'll get a little

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promotional tournament going.

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Go ahead, Brian.

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I'll say get a promotional

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tournament going.

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The winner of that

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tournament might get a little swag,

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maybe a little something fun.

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There you go.

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I got you right here.

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My boy William up there.

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Yep, tally.

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Yeah, put my boy William up there, man.

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William keeps me sane.

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He hits me about once a week

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and reminds me that I ain't

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ready for Nashville.

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Got to let him know.

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Got to keep you humble.

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That man is ready.

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And I can't wait, man.

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I mean, I'm going to be wide open.

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He is.

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By the way, Thomas,

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enjoyed you guys both on the huddle.

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Good job there, fellas.

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But, Ron,

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let's talk about the tailgate tour.

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Out at Hardywood, we roll out there.

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Great time.

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Unfortunately,

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the weather put a damper on a lot of it.

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For those who out there,

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a couple folks come up, chat with us,

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saw us from the podcast.

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But the weather put the damper on.

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I mean, it was storming and raining hard.

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They were calling for it

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literally starting just before the event.

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You had to kind of contingency plan,

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figure out what you were going to do.

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They didn't have the stage

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set up outside like they've

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had the previous couple years.

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Everything was inside on the

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main stage that they have inside there.

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Still a great event,

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but when you take away one

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of the full bars,

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you take away a couple of the pop-up bars,

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you get longer lines for beer.

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You know,

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it was a little tighter than you

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wanted it to be, I think,

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with the number of folks that turned out.

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But it was still a really good time.

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Good information from Witt.

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Always good to see Mikey out

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there emceeing the event.

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And obviously Coach Pry

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closing that thing out

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pretty strong there.

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So, I mean,

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it was a good time and good

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seeing folks in the Richmond area.

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Good talking to a few people

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that came up to us,

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recognized us from the show.

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So, yeah.

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Good time all around, man.

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Shout out to people here.

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Our buddies, Phil and Mitch.

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Phil, longtime friend,

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both alumni of the Tech.

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They both came out, hung out,

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drank some beers with them.

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I hadn't seen either of them in a while,

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but good seeing those fellas.

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But we also,

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we had a couple minutes with

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Pry because the line, it was insane.

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And obviously we've interviewed him before,

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working on trying to get him on again and

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we actually spent close to

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15 minutes y'all talking

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with coach cheetah and

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gunner brewer and

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immediately like you just

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you just feel that you just

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feel the energy coming off

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on this positive you

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understand why those guys

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can recruit you understand

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why they're such good

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coaches because just

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chit-chatting with them you

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know 15 minutes it was a

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little bit about everything

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a little bit about nothing but man like

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We're going to try to get at

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least one of them, if not both of them,

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on the show soon.

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I mean,

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I enjoyed the heck out of Cheetah

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and Gunnar, man.

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They were just awesome guys.

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Like, you know talking to them, it's like,

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I love having these two

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guys on the staff.

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Yeah, a lot of enthusiasm from Chita,

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obviously.

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I mean,

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you can just tell looking at him normally,

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like, you know,

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you can tell he's got a lot of energy,

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brings the juice.

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And he's just like that in

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any other circumstance, talking to him.

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And, you know,

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Gunnar was cool because

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Gunnar would dive into a

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little bit of the minutia

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and the X's and O's with

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you in a casual conversation,

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but he keeps it...

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Keeps it moving enough where

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you don't really get bogged

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down in too many details either.

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So he kept it enough high

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level where you could keep with him.

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But he talked about some of

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the ins and outs of recruiting,

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some of the things that

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they got coming down the

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pike in terms of rules that

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might allow him to get

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you know, more of the on-field type role,

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you know,

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despite not having a traditional

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coaching position on the staff.

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So really interesting stuff

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and looking forward to

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trying to get those guys on

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here and talk about it a little bit more.

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100%, man.

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And we miss you, Tally.

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Like,

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Tally's going to have to just drive

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up because they do it.

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They've done them on Mondays

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because Hardywood's closed on Mondays.

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They do it on Monday night.

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And again,

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it makes sense because for Hardywood,

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it's just free money

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because they know people

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are going to buy the

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tickets and they're going

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to come out and buy more

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beer and have a great time.

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And again, the turnout for the weather,

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that place was jammed.

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You could not move.

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So I'm going to probably say

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they probably missed 500 to

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1,000 people extra coming out.

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But again, great showing.

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Again, love it.

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Love to see the vibes out there.

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And you can just again,

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there's there's a buzz.

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It's not what it was.

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I went two years ago and it

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was kind of like, OK,

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Brian went last year.

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And Brian, you mentioned like, you know,

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everybody's okay,

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but ain't there was nobody was panicking,

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but I think everybody was

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still a little hesitant after, you know,

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right.

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But at that point we had had

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some good recruiting momentum.

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Yeah.

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The portal was looking good.

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So everybody, nobody was really panicking.

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It was just like, all right.

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We got to do better than three wins though,

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right?

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So everybody was

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enthusiastic about this one.

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Everybody is ready to go.

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Everybody's jacked up.

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I mean, we see it all the time.

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We see it on Twitter.

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I mean,

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there is a buzz behind this program

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that we haven't seen in a long time.

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And, you know, some of it's been earned.

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I think some of it is, you know,

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I think people trying to

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get ahead of the potential, right?

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They're trying to be the guy,

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the smartest guy in the

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room because they're a

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little bit ahead of the potential.

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But I think the ceiling is

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where those people are talking about.

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We just got to get there, right? 100%.

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I'm enjoying the silence.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's like they're doing a

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great job on social media

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and stuff like that,

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but I'm enjoying just not being worried.

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Like, for a while we had this person's,

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you know,

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this person's coming out with a

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hit piece.

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This person is leaving the team.

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And then there's bad press

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because of that.

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Then we have, you know,

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legal things that's going on.

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Like, I'm just enjoying the silence, man.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like,

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I'm just enjoying getting ready for

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the season.

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The kids seem like they are locked in.

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They're working hard.

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I'm happy.

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I don't need to be entertained right now.

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You know what I'm saying?

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I'm good to not be entertained.

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Y'all stay healthy and y'all

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enjoy being college kids right now.

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That's what I need.

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Y'all keep working.

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The season will be here before we know it.

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A hundred percent.

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And let's talk about some of

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the additions that's

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happened since the last time we talked,

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because, you know,

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there were some portal

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opportunities out there and

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we took advantage of it.

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Right.

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Oh, what's wrong?

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You see your boy, your boy here.

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What am I?

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New King.

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Your boy, New King.

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I'm over here looking at.

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Hey, I got it coming.

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I got it coming.

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Oh, okay.

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Oh, this is you and him, man.

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This is you and his beef.

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New King, get you a PS5,

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and we'll settle this

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before September 27th.

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We got college football

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coming out in a month.

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We'll play a lot of games

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before that game plays.

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We'll go ahead and settle this.

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All right.

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Well,

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let's talk about those portal

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additions because I think

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the three that we have added thus far –

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Really good and, to me,

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needed portal additions.

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I'll start the first one way

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back at the end of April.

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Colin Sheely transferred

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from UCLA to Virginia Tech.

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You know,

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I think he was like – I don't

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know where he was in the portal, but –

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You look at his numbers.

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He was a backup at UCLA last year.

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He played in two games, two touchdowns,

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no interceptions,

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178 rushing yards on 21 rushes,

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about 65% in the passing game.

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And it was the discussion we

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had after spring game, right,

00:16:51.671 --> 00:16:52.912
is pop the backups.

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And I think we'd feel

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comfortable with Pop being the backup,

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but it's almost like it's

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no in-game experience.

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Pop still needs to go eat

00:17:01.615 --> 00:17:03.866
more because Pop's still only about 175,

00:17:03.866 --> 00:17:04.737
180 pounds.

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I believe that was the last report, right?

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So now you've got the buffer

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because if you take a look at Sheely,

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not only last year at UCLA,

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started games at Kent State,

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back in 2022 where he

00:17:16.682 --> 00:17:18.402
amassed 2,100 yards passing,

00:17:18.402 --> 00:17:20.583
13 touchdowns, five picks,

00:17:21.103 --> 00:17:23.044
ran for just about 500 yards,

00:17:23.344 --> 00:17:24.304
four additional touchdowns.

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So now you've got your safety plan, right?

00:17:29.086 --> 00:17:31.346
Even though Conor's built like a tank,

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nothing's going to happen to him.

00:17:32.846 --> 00:17:32.987
Right.

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But you've got your safety plan,

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and it also helps develop

00:17:35.907 --> 00:17:36.709
into Pop Watson.

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Tally, what did you think about this one?

00:17:39.069 --> 00:17:39.869
Yeah, man, I mean –

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I think we'll talk about it

00:17:41.932 --> 00:17:42.673
a little later on.

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We'll have some clips playing.

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And Coach Pryor is who he is.

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I mean, when you see the clip,

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you'll know what I'm talking about.

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But you got to have competition.

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It don't matter how good you is.

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You can't get comfortable.

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So when you look at the quarterback room,

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it was needed to bring a

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quarterback in to just say, hey –

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Don't slip up.

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Cause I mean, I love pop.

00:18:06.219 --> 00:18:07.059
I think pop's going to be a

00:18:07.099 --> 00:18:07.881
good player for us,

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but pop was suspended last

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year for something.

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You know what I mean?

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You have something like that happened.

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Then where do you go?

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If not even thinking about

00:18:16.366 --> 00:18:17.468
Kyron being hurt, but.

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What if Kyron goes and does

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what we know he's going to

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do like he did this year

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and we up 42-3 on a team?

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He needs to be out of the game.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So just things like that.

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You got to have a safety

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plan and you got to have

00:18:33.638 --> 00:18:35.201
competition to keep on

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driving each other in practice.

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Nobody can get relaxed when

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you're in a position like this because –

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You miss out on an opportunity,

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and then that opportunity's gone forever.

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We're not doing no what ifs no more.

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That what if stuff's over with.

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Go get it done right now.

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Yeah, I mean,

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I think you had the roster spot.

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You had a situation where

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you got a still undersized, if, you know,

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talented kid, but undersized,

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no starting experience,

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no really collegiate

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experience at all at this

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point outside of a couple

00:19:09.502 --> 00:19:10.644
spring games and some

00:19:11.884 --> 00:19:15.166
mop-up duty short-term last year,

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you know, a couple games.

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This is where you want to go.

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You get a guy that has a

00:19:22.241 --> 00:19:24.384
similar type skill set to your starter.

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He's got some wiggle.

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He can throw it.

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He can do those things,

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do both of those things at

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a pretty good level.

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He's a guy that if you need

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him for a quarter, a half, a game,

00:19:37.152 --> 00:19:38.012
he can come in there and

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get the job done.

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You feel pretty good about it.

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I don't, you know,

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nobody's coming in there

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and replacing Kyron that's

00:19:44.957 --> 00:19:45.959
on this roster right now,

00:19:46.058 --> 00:19:47.603
whether it's Colin, whether it's Pop,

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you know, that's not happening.

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But...

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This gives you a little bit

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more of a buffer, of a safety valve,

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and it puts you in a better

00:19:57.241 --> 00:19:59.324
spot with helping Pop grow

00:19:59.344 --> 00:20:00.305
some too because Pop's

00:20:00.325 --> 00:20:02.406
going to get to do a couple things.

00:20:02.446 --> 00:20:03.367
He's going to get pushed in

00:20:03.407 --> 00:20:04.249
practice a little bit more

00:20:04.288 --> 00:20:05.230
because he's seeing

00:20:05.289 --> 00:20:07.412
somebody else as a backup

00:20:07.471 --> 00:20:08.712
getting the job done.

00:20:10.074 --> 00:20:10.674
It's going to give him

00:20:10.734 --> 00:20:12.316
something to work for in season.

00:20:13.596 --> 00:20:16.019
Um, and, and I think like, like Tally said,

00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:16.861
that's going to help, uh,

00:20:16.921 --> 00:20:18.402
help his development long-term.

00:20:19.063 --> 00:20:19.884
And then, you know, he,

00:20:20.384 --> 00:20:22.145
he's a guy that really only has one year.

00:20:22.226 --> 00:20:25.048
So it's going to be pops, um, you know,

00:20:25.068 --> 00:20:26.891
position come 2025.

00:20:26.891 --> 00:20:27.371
Yep.

00:20:28.432 --> 00:20:30.815
Um, and it could be pop starting position,

00:20:30.855 --> 00:20:31.734
depending on what Kyron

00:20:31.755 --> 00:20:32.936
decides to do at the end of 2024.

00:20:32.936 --> 00:20:33.057
So, um,

00:20:36.832 --> 00:20:38.334
this is an important year for everybody.

00:20:38.354 --> 00:20:39.714
So having, having somebody like that,

00:20:39.755 --> 00:20:40.715
that can kind of kind of

00:20:40.736 --> 00:20:42.097
put in that role and be that buffer.

00:20:42.137 --> 00:20:43.179
I think it's really good for him.

00:20:43.199 --> 00:20:44.760
A hundred percent, a hundred percent.

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And pops up to one 90.

00:20:46.182 --> 00:20:47.123
I need pop to be at two

00:20:47.163 --> 00:20:48.865
bills when he's a starting quarterback,

00:20:49.085 --> 00:20:50.727
two bills, two bills and get it done.

00:20:50.846 --> 00:20:51.228
Yeah.

00:20:51.488 --> 00:20:52.128
Six meals a day.

00:20:53.714 --> 00:20:54.515
Lots of chicken.

00:20:54.674 --> 00:20:56.135
Eat whatever you want to eat.

00:20:56.276 --> 00:20:56.935
There you go.

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Go to TallyDot.

00:20:57.836 --> 00:20:58.376
Just eat whatever.

00:20:58.616 --> 00:21:00.196
Without what you're working out,

00:21:00.277 --> 00:21:01.238
you can't eat too much.

00:21:02.117 --> 00:21:02.617
Exactly.

00:21:02.817 --> 00:21:03.219
Exactly.

00:21:03.239 --> 00:21:03.219
100%.

00:21:03.278 --> 00:21:04.338
All right.

00:21:04.378 --> 00:21:05.419
Let's flip to the next one

00:21:05.459 --> 00:21:07.099
here because this is a pretty big land.

00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:09.760
Curtis Perry transfers from

00:21:09.941 --> 00:21:11.442
Alabama to Virginia Tech.

00:21:11.981 --> 00:21:13.142
Looking at his background

00:21:13.162 --> 00:21:14.442
and how he came out of a

00:21:14.542 --> 00:21:15.883
prospect when he came out

00:21:15.962 --> 00:21:18.824
back in the year 2020.

00:21:18.824 --> 00:21:20.605
So that's only two seasons.

00:21:20.664 --> 00:21:20.884
I mean,

00:21:20.924 --> 00:21:22.565
this kid's a redshirt freshman

00:21:23.006 --> 00:21:23.905
walking in the door.

00:21:24.566 --> 00:21:27.106
He was a top 60 player.

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He was the number two player

00:21:28.386 --> 00:21:30.928
in the state of Alabama at Pike Road.

00:21:30.948 --> 00:21:32.328
I'm going to ask Tally about

00:21:32.348 --> 00:21:33.189
this in a second here.

00:21:33.409 --> 00:21:35.209
This guy had offers from everywhere,

00:21:35.349 --> 00:21:36.710
and he's only been there a couple years,

00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:37.309
6'2",

00:21:37.730 --> 00:21:40.010
about 265 pounds is what the listed

00:21:40.030 --> 00:21:40.451
weight is.

00:21:41.151 --> 00:21:42.352
We all know how weights go

00:21:42.372 --> 00:21:43.451
with college kids and stuff.

00:21:43.491 --> 00:21:44.932
Sometimes it's high, sometimes it's low,

00:21:44.952 --> 00:21:46.032
sometimes nobody knows.

00:21:47.138 --> 00:21:49.381
But the caliber of player

00:21:49.421 --> 00:21:50.542
we're getting here, Tally,

00:21:51.202 --> 00:21:52.484
tell us about Pike Road,

00:21:53.224 --> 00:21:55.387
what you know about Perry, if anything.

00:21:56.048 --> 00:21:56.628
And then, Brian,

00:21:56.648 --> 00:21:58.170
if you can come in and just

00:21:58.190 --> 00:21:59.171
tell me what you saw when

00:21:59.191 --> 00:22:00.833
you looked at his high school tape.

00:22:02.194 --> 00:22:04.336
Yeah, Pike Road is, I mean,

00:22:04.356 --> 00:22:06.098
they've had a lot of NFL

00:22:06.118 --> 00:22:07.119
guys that come from there.

00:22:08.508 --> 00:22:09.869
I think that Perry

00:22:09.910 --> 00:22:10.750
transferred there from

00:22:10.810 --> 00:22:11.771
somewhere out of Montgomery

00:22:12.333 --> 00:22:14.635
his senior year or maybe his junior year,

00:22:15.196 --> 00:22:19.442
but he was on one in high school.

00:22:20.222 --> 00:22:21.305
He was the man, but

00:22:22.778 --> 00:22:24.800
And that's why he went to Alabama.

00:22:25.461 --> 00:22:27.041
But with his body size,

00:22:27.262 --> 00:22:28.182
I feel like he was always

00:22:28.202 --> 00:22:28.864
going to be a little

00:22:28.943 --> 00:22:30.964
undersized to play for a

00:22:31.025 --> 00:22:32.185
team like Alabama.

00:22:32.486 --> 00:22:34.107
Maybe not every SEC school,

00:22:34.167 --> 00:22:35.769
but a team like Alabama,

00:22:35.788 --> 00:22:36.490
he's going to be a little

00:22:36.509 --> 00:22:37.650
bit undersized because he's

00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:39.491
right at that 6'1", 6'2".

00:22:39.612 --> 00:22:43.194
I think he probably got up to about 260.

00:22:43.234 --> 00:22:45.296
They may have got him in like 265, so...

00:22:47.247 --> 00:22:49.127
course we love we always

00:22:49.887 --> 00:22:51.068
look at Pollock you know

00:22:51.088 --> 00:22:52.170
what I mean like we have

00:22:52.230 --> 00:22:53.450
kids like that all the time

00:22:53.490 --> 00:22:56.392
that produce here so it was

00:22:56.571 --> 00:22:58.173
interesting because I was

00:22:58.192 --> 00:22:59.513
thinking that it was like a

00:22:59.574 --> 00:23:01.374
no-go for sure you know for

00:23:01.434 --> 00:23:03.154
us to get him and uh they

00:23:03.214 --> 00:23:04.915
pop up and was like oh you

00:23:04.935 --> 00:23:06.136
know he he's committed to

00:23:06.156 --> 00:23:07.077
Virginia Tech and I'm like

00:23:07.597 --> 00:23:09.979
okay a Alabama boy and a

00:23:10.118 --> 00:23:11.619
you know Alabama transfer

00:23:12.346 --> 00:23:13.086
pretty cool for me.

00:23:13.567 --> 00:23:14.607
You know what I'm saying?

00:23:14.688 --> 00:23:17.269
To see how some of these kids play,

00:23:17.390 --> 00:23:17.690
you know,

00:23:17.730 --> 00:23:19.632
back in their high school days

00:23:20.231 --> 00:23:21.252
and then now get to follow

00:23:21.292 --> 00:23:22.153
them in college.

00:23:22.193 --> 00:23:23.375
And what,

00:23:23.474 --> 00:23:25.656
what's important about it more

00:23:25.696 --> 00:23:28.578
than this year is that you get a young,

00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:32.582
you know, a young defensive lineman.

00:23:33.202 --> 00:23:34.463
When we have these linemen

00:23:34.483 --> 00:23:35.704
that are going to the NFL,

00:23:35.724 --> 00:23:36.746
we're going to go ahead and say it.

00:23:37.266 --> 00:23:38.287
We got these linemen that's

00:23:38.307 --> 00:23:39.728
going to the NFL after this year.

00:23:39.748 --> 00:23:39.788
Um,

00:23:41.683 --> 00:23:43.844
you're not just, you know,

00:23:43.924 --> 00:23:45.105
retooling every year.

00:23:45.125 --> 00:23:45.865
You know what I'm saying?

00:23:45.884 --> 00:23:47.444
You already building, you know,

00:23:47.464 --> 00:23:48.625
you've already got them there.

00:23:48.665 --> 00:23:50.286
You already got them bought

00:23:50.365 --> 00:23:51.445
into the program and

00:23:51.486 --> 00:23:52.326
knowing what they're doing

00:23:52.385 --> 00:23:53.207
for the next year.

00:23:53.247 --> 00:23:56.247
So big get for that situation.

00:23:56.626 --> 00:23:57.067
Definitely.

00:23:57.146 --> 00:23:58.248
And I think people are going

00:23:58.268 --> 00:23:59.167
to enjoy watching them play.

00:23:59.188 --> 00:24:01.627
Cause like I said, again,

00:24:01.708 --> 00:24:03.588
now I know high school to

00:24:03.648 --> 00:24:04.749
college is much different

00:24:04.788 --> 00:24:06.369
and I have not watched them

00:24:06.390 --> 00:24:08.349
play a down of, of college, but,

00:24:09.163 --> 00:24:10.444
If he can get to anything

00:24:10.505 --> 00:24:11.684
like he was in high school,

00:24:13.846 --> 00:24:15.166
it won't be nothing that we've seen.

00:24:15.507 --> 00:24:16.127
I'll tell you that.

00:24:16.428 --> 00:24:17.367
He's tough.

00:24:18.909 --> 00:24:21.529
What did you see, Brian, on that tape?

00:24:21.691 --> 00:24:23.932
He reminds me of, honestly,

00:24:23.951 --> 00:24:25.573
the person that we had on

00:24:25.593 --> 00:24:27.032
the last time we punched record.

00:24:27.834 --> 00:24:28.074
Okay.

00:24:29.153 --> 00:24:30.054
He reminds me a lot of

00:24:30.094 --> 00:24:31.894
Payne's game because he's

00:24:31.934 --> 00:24:34.155
kind of got that interior

00:24:34.175 --> 00:24:35.455
alignment that plays like a

00:24:35.516 --> 00:24:36.717
defensive end mentality.

00:24:36.757 --> 00:24:38.258
He can knife through.

00:24:38.317 --> 00:24:39.617
He's really disruptive.

00:24:41.118 --> 00:24:42.920
But he's still strong enough

00:24:43.140 --> 00:24:44.461
and big enough to shed

00:24:44.500 --> 00:24:46.721
blockers even bigger guys.

00:24:47.803 --> 00:24:49.443
So he's not losing in any

00:24:49.503 --> 00:24:50.703
sort of physical battle

00:24:50.723 --> 00:24:52.105
despite giving up some size

00:24:52.144 --> 00:24:52.944
to the bigger guys.

00:24:54.625 --> 00:24:57.609
I think if he can polish his

00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:02.535
skill set and put on maybe

00:25:02.575 --> 00:25:03.556
a little more weight where

00:25:03.596 --> 00:25:04.557
he can handle some double

00:25:04.596 --> 00:25:05.438
teams when those come.

00:25:05.478 --> 00:25:06.519
But I think he's that

00:25:06.558 --> 00:25:10.103
prototypical quick

00:25:10.403 --> 00:25:12.385
disruptive three technique that you see.

00:25:12.425 --> 00:25:13.707
And it looks like that's

00:25:13.727 --> 00:25:15.087
kind of what we're going with.

00:25:15.669 --> 00:25:16.509
for that position,

00:25:16.548 --> 00:25:17.630
a guy that can kind of play

00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:20.090
outside the guard and just

00:25:20.131 --> 00:25:21.191
be really disruptive.

00:25:22.471 --> 00:25:23.511
So I think he's going to fit

00:25:23.551 --> 00:25:24.633
into that role pretty good,

00:25:24.692 --> 00:25:25.353
even if he's not

00:25:25.393 --> 00:25:26.993
necessarily frontline this year.

00:25:27.034 --> 00:25:27.574
I think, you know,

00:25:28.034 --> 00:25:30.335
with the eligibility he has left,

00:25:30.355 --> 00:25:31.976
we're going to get some

00:25:32.016 --> 00:25:32.935
good run and see some good

00:25:32.976 --> 00:25:33.435
things from him.

00:25:33.455 --> 00:25:33.435
100%.

00:25:34.696 --> 00:25:35.557
And I think that's one of

00:25:35.576 --> 00:25:36.998
the better things to see is

00:25:37.357 --> 00:25:38.377
he does not have to come in

00:25:38.417 --> 00:25:39.578
and be the man this year, right?

00:25:40.369 --> 00:25:42.431
with the newest peoples, with Fuga,

00:25:42.810 --> 00:25:44.211
with Gillian, with Copeland.

00:25:44.311 --> 00:25:45.392
It's like, now,

00:25:45.531 --> 00:25:47.573
is it going to be nice if he gets some PT,

00:25:48.032 --> 00:25:49.233
gets out to play with those boys?

00:25:49.253 --> 00:25:49.233
100%.

00:25:50.453 --> 00:25:51.515
But that's the best part.

00:25:51.654 --> 00:25:52.755
It's like you don't have to

00:25:52.795 --> 00:25:53.576
be the man this year.

00:25:53.675 --> 00:25:54.796
Learn, grow.

00:25:55.395 --> 00:25:56.876
The next year and the next year,

00:25:56.936 --> 00:25:57.636
go make your money.

00:25:58.258 --> 00:25:59.298
Go make your money.

00:25:59.978 --> 00:26:00.659
All right.

00:26:00.679 --> 00:26:02.720
One last individual we got.

00:26:03.019 --> 00:26:03.559
And, Brian,

00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:04.480
I'm going to let you lead with

00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:06.221
this one and then Tally come on in here.

00:26:06.961 --> 00:26:07.882
Caleb Spencer.

00:26:08.836 --> 00:26:09.596
Transfers from the

00:26:09.616 --> 00:26:11.438
University of Miami back

00:26:11.518 --> 00:26:13.999
home to Virginia.

00:26:14.019 --> 00:26:17.440
6'2.5", 210 when he came out.

00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:19.660
He was a top 15 Virginia

00:26:19.700 --> 00:26:20.961
prospect when he came out

00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.421
as well back in 2023.

00:26:22.421 --> 00:26:23.721
So a relatively young guy.

00:26:24.122 --> 00:26:25.981
Did play a lot on Miami's

00:26:26.021 --> 00:26:27.281
special teams this year.

00:26:27.362 --> 00:26:28.403
He is a safety.

00:26:28.942 --> 00:26:29.643
Played down at Life

00:26:29.682 --> 00:26:30.583
Christian Academy down in

00:26:30.623 --> 00:26:31.683
Colonial Heights just down

00:26:31.703 --> 00:26:32.663
the road here from me and Brian.

00:26:33.023 --> 00:26:34.144
Originally from Gloucester,

00:26:34.164 --> 00:26:35.545
Virginia out on the eastern shore.

00:26:36.307 --> 00:26:38.799
Brian, tape-wise, what does it say in –

00:26:41.141 --> 00:26:42.101
Another homecoming, right?

00:26:42.821 --> 00:26:43.701
Another homecoming.

00:26:43.741 --> 00:26:44.801
You love to see it, man.

00:26:44.862 --> 00:26:48.243
And, you know, I like the, you know,

00:26:48.263 --> 00:26:48.983
we'll say this.

00:26:49.104 --> 00:26:50.124
Pride talks about it.

00:26:50.483 --> 00:26:51.285
We've talked about it.

00:26:51.984 --> 00:26:54.826
This is a positionally flexible player.

00:26:56.287 --> 00:26:57.967
He's got safety next to his name.

00:26:58.906 --> 00:26:59.907
But I think the big thing is

00:26:59.948 --> 00:27:01.248
that he's a guy that can slide out,

00:27:01.288 --> 00:27:02.048
play some nickel,

00:27:02.568 --> 00:27:05.329
be kind of a big safety in the box.

00:27:05.990 --> 00:27:07.911
He can kind of be a will or

00:27:07.931 --> 00:27:08.951
a star linebacker.

00:27:08.971 --> 00:27:09.912
So you can kind of move him

00:27:09.932 --> 00:27:10.772
in a bunch of different

00:27:10.813 --> 00:27:12.012
plays and play around with

00:27:12.054 --> 00:27:12.733
your alignments,

00:27:12.794 --> 00:27:15.275
play around with where

00:27:15.295 --> 00:27:16.215
you're deploying guys.

00:27:16.296 --> 00:27:18.836
So he gives you that type of flexibility.

00:27:19.438 --> 00:27:20.738
And he's a hitter, man.

00:27:21.159 --> 00:27:22.499
I think that's the big thing

00:27:22.660 --> 00:27:23.380
is he's a hitter.

00:27:23.420 --> 00:27:24.621
He comes in fast.

00:27:25.201 --> 00:27:26.122
He plays fast.

00:27:26.162 --> 00:27:27.041
He plays loose.

00:27:27.082 --> 00:27:28.722
He likes to knock the shit out of people.

00:27:28.742 --> 00:27:31.904
All right, Tally, what you got on him?

00:27:33.246 --> 00:27:34.086
Mainly, you know,

00:27:34.346 --> 00:27:35.807
Brian kind of hit the nail on the head.

00:27:35.866 --> 00:27:36.047
I mean,

00:27:36.086 --> 00:27:37.387
anytime you can go and get a little

00:27:37.407 --> 00:27:38.988
bit of, you know,

00:27:39.028 --> 00:27:40.009
college experience and

00:27:40.048 --> 00:27:43.349
things like that and be able to come back,

00:27:43.470 --> 00:27:44.550
like, I'm all for that.

00:27:44.790 --> 00:27:45.351
You know what I'm saying?

00:27:45.371 --> 00:27:46.510
Because when you,

00:27:47.471 --> 00:27:48.291
I like what Pryor's

00:27:48.332 --> 00:27:49.051
building and how he's

00:27:49.071 --> 00:27:50.653
building it because when

00:27:50.712 --> 00:27:51.613
it's somebody out there,

00:27:52.134 --> 00:27:53.394
you automatically think we

00:27:53.433 --> 00:27:54.394
got a chance at them if

00:27:54.414 --> 00:27:54.954
they're from here.

00:27:55.801 --> 00:27:56.542
Because, you know,

00:27:56.643 --> 00:27:58.104
you look at APR and him

00:27:58.163 --> 00:27:59.704
coming back and the things

00:27:59.724 --> 00:28:00.846
he was able to do, like,

00:28:01.247 --> 00:28:02.326
that's the poster child.

00:28:02.386 --> 00:28:02.968
You know what I mean?

00:28:03.387 --> 00:28:03.567
Yep.

00:28:03.808 --> 00:28:05.410
But the only thing that I'm

00:28:05.450 --> 00:28:07.211
a little bit kind of leery

00:28:07.290 --> 00:28:08.491
of is the school that he

00:28:08.511 --> 00:28:09.512
came from in high school.

00:28:10.173 --> 00:28:13.856
You know, like that LCA school,

00:28:14.497 --> 00:28:15.117
whatever it's called,

00:28:15.157 --> 00:28:16.298
Life Christian Academy, like,

00:28:18.075 --> 00:28:18.875
I'm not from there.

00:28:18.934 --> 00:28:20.715
I just got to go by what I hear, you know,

00:28:20.756 --> 00:28:21.455
and I don't hear good

00:28:21.496 --> 00:28:22.915
things about the

00:28:22.935 --> 00:28:25.016
competition that they play, you know,

00:28:25.496 --> 00:28:26.717
even how the school is set

00:28:26.856 --> 00:28:27.876
up and things like that.

00:28:27.936 --> 00:28:29.936
So I'm not set.

00:28:30.017 --> 00:28:31.377
I'm not sold on that.

00:28:31.438 --> 00:28:33.577
But I'm interested to see

00:28:33.597 --> 00:28:34.557
what the kid can do.

00:28:35.357 --> 00:28:36.598
It's definitely the pickup.

00:28:36.638 --> 00:28:37.179
You know what I'm saying?

00:28:37.239 --> 00:28:38.519
It gives you it gives you

00:28:38.538 --> 00:28:41.818
what you need to fill that spot.

00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:43.240
And I'm interested to see

00:28:43.259 --> 00:28:44.140
what he can come in and do.

00:28:45.875 --> 00:28:47.116
I'll tell you this, though, Tally,

00:28:47.497 --> 00:28:50.539
coming from Gloucester and going to LCA,

00:28:50.819 --> 00:28:51.980
he probably took a step up

00:28:52.121 --> 00:28:54.864
in competition because

00:28:54.884 --> 00:28:57.487
Gloucester's out there, northern neck.

00:28:58.007 --> 00:28:59.689
Gloucester sounds like it's country.

00:29:00.229 --> 00:29:00.869
Oh, it's country.

00:29:02.030 --> 00:29:02.872
It's right on the water.

00:29:03.132 --> 00:29:05.354
It's small, though.

00:29:05.433 --> 00:29:07.455
It's just a river town with a high school.

00:29:08.497 --> 00:29:10.098
Yeah, it's true.

00:29:11.027 --> 00:29:11.207
Now,

00:29:11.227 --> 00:29:12.867
one of the bigger things that they do

00:29:12.928 --> 00:29:14.167
play every year is they do

00:29:14.229 --> 00:29:17.289
play teams like – they do

00:29:17.329 --> 00:29:18.830
play teams like DeMatha.

00:29:18.851 --> 00:29:20.050
They got smoked by DeMatha.

00:29:20.590 --> 00:29:22.071
But then they're also

00:29:22.132 --> 00:29:25.773
playing teams where it's just like, God,

00:29:26.374 --> 00:29:27.394
they're not playing like

00:29:27.434 --> 00:29:28.454
your Benedict teams.

00:29:28.855 --> 00:29:29.756
You always have some good

00:29:29.776 --> 00:29:30.496
players come out.

00:29:30.935 --> 00:29:31.876
They're not playing like the

00:29:31.916 --> 00:29:33.096
teams from Lynchburg.

00:29:34.298 --> 00:29:34.758
I don't know.

00:29:34.877 --> 00:29:36.239
You look at their schedule, Brian.

00:29:36.298 --> 00:29:36.699
It's just –

00:29:37.950 --> 00:29:38.230
I don't know.

00:29:38.250 --> 00:29:39.050
It's all over the place.

00:29:39.191 --> 00:29:40.092
It is so weird.

00:29:40.291 --> 00:29:40.571
Weird.

00:29:40.952 --> 00:29:41.373
It's weird.

00:29:41.772 --> 00:29:43.835
Play the math every, you get some stuff.

00:29:43.875 --> 00:29:45.916
So, um, absolutely.

00:29:46.356 --> 00:29:48.278
Um, boys, this isn't on a rundown,

00:29:48.499 --> 00:29:49.980
but it just got reported.

00:29:50.381 --> 00:29:52.563
Um, I think at the end of yesterday, um,

00:29:53.542 --> 00:29:56.425
Lamar law, no longer on the VT roster.

00:29:57.207 --> 00:29:58.728
Um, I have not,

00:29:58.988 --> 00:30:00.169
I have not personally read

00:30:00.308 --> 00:30:02.471
anything that why he's left.

00:30:02.510 --> 00:30:03.632
We know he tried to flip to

00:30:03.711 --> 00:30:04.692
offensive line.

00:30:05.534 --> 00:30:05.614
Um,

00:30:06.823 --> 00:30:07.143
You know,

00:30:08.403 --> 00:30:09.726
I'm hoping nothing but the best

00:30:09.766 --> 00:30:11.606
for him regardless of the situation,

00:30:13.028 --> 00:30:14.829
but no longer on the roster.

00:30:15.230 --> 00:30:17.311
So, if you did not see that,

00:30:17.451 --> 00:30:18.613
that was yesterday.

00:30:18.814 --> 00:30:21.915
Did y'all either see anything on it?

00:30:21.976 --> 00:30:22.557
I mean,

00:30:22.576 --> 00:30:23.998
I know he's been fighting some injuries.

00:30:24.038 --> 00:30:24.959
So, I mean,

00:30:25.199 --> 00:30:26.861
I don't know if it's related to

00:30:26.901 --> 00:30:28.021
those aspects or what,

00:30:28.061 --> 00:30:28.922
but he's been fighting some

00:30:28.961 --> 00:30:31.243
injuries the last couple off seasons.

00:30:31.263 --> 00:30:31.744
So, I think so.

00:30:32.204 --> 00:30:32.404
Right.

00:30:34.548 --> 00:30:36.089
Like Brian said,

00:30:37.250 --> 00:30:38.932
nowadays I'm all for kids.

00:30:40.973 --> 00:30:41.854
When you go to college,

00:30:42.253 --> 00:30:43.575
it's a different animal.

00:30:44.375 --> 00:30:44.955
Whether you're trying to

00:30:44.996 --> 00:30:46.336
catch up to the speed or

00:30:46.356 --> 00:30:47.657
you're trying to catch up to the size.

00:30:48.398 --> 00:30:49.538
Sometimes you just can't get

00:30:49.578 --> 00:30:51.000
on the field at certain schools.

00:30:52.020 --> 00:30:53.122
If I'm somewhere and I just

00:30:54.246 --> 00:30:55.385
I can't get on the field or

00:30:55.425 --> 00:30:56.686
I can't find my position.

00:30:57.307 --> 00:30:58.807
Sometimes you got to take a

00:30:58.847 --> 00:31:00.147
step and do something different.

00:31:00.167 --> 00:31:02.009
I'm not saying that's 100% what happened.

00:31:02.509 --> 00:31:04.349
I just hope that, like you said,

00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:06.170
hoping the best for any kid

00:31:06.390 --> 00:31:10.172
that is going and making a transition.

00:31:11.617 --> 00:31:12.159
Yep, yep.

00:31:12.358 --> 00:31:13.640
Whatever he's doing,

00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:14.320
whether if he is

00:31:14.361 --> 00:31:15.261
transferring schools to

00:31:15.281 --> 00:31:16.143
play football elsewhere,

00:31:16.182 --> 00:31:16.903
best of luck to him.

00:31:17.344 --> 00:31:18.305
If he's staying at Tech,

00:31:18.365 --> 00:31:20.126
best of luck to him getting his degree,

00:31:20.527 --> 00:31:21.708
finding those opportunities

00:31:21.728 --> 00:31:23.910
in the world to make the

00:31:23.990 --> 00:31:25.192
best for himself.

00:31:25.692 --> 00:31:26.071
All righty.

00:31:26.732 --> 00:31:28.693
I know this is big for y'all, big for me,

00:31:28.733 --> 00:31:29.674
even though I hadn't played

00:31:30.095 --> 00:31:30.875
one of the newer – I think

00:31:30.894 --> 00:31:32.476
the last time I played a newer game,

00:31:32.496 --> 00:31:34.417
Brian, was when you had 14,

00:31:34.417 --> 00:31:36.479
when our boys were about three years old.

00:31:36.499 --> 00:31:37.398
And I came up to your house

00:31:37.419 --> 00:31:38.259
a couple Saturdays,

00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.060
and we hung out and played 14.

00:31:40.060 --> 00:31:41.000
But if you didn't see,

00:31:41.121 --> 00:31:42.682
College Football 25 is set

00:31:42.721 --> 00:31:43.542
to be released in just a

00:31:43.583 --> 00:31:44.282
couple months here.

00:31:44.323 --> 00:31:45.564
They had the trailers of a

00:31:45.644 --> 00:31:46.644
bunch of intros.

00:31:47.505 --> 00:31:48.846
But somehow those stupid

00:31:48.885 --> 00:31:50.267
idiots at EA Sports left

00:31:50.326 --> 00:31:51.748
off the most iconic intro

00:31:51.788 --> 00:31:52.587
in the game today.

00:31:53.608 --> 00:31:53.888
So –

00:31:55.531 --> 00:31:56.772
y'all's takes because I

00:31:56.792 --> 00:32:00.295
don't have a ps5 so I will

00:32:00.315 --> 00:32:01.295
be going to brian's house

00:32:01.355 --> 00:32:02.635
at some point in july I

00:32:02.655 --> 00:32:03.757
just may bring jack over we

00:32:03.797 --> 00:32:05.077
might say have a sleepover

00:32:05.198 --> 00:32:07.318
or something we'll have a

00:32:07.398 --> 00:32:10.601
nice uh nice long saturday

00:32:10.800 --> 00:32:12.501
and then the kids can sleep over

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:15.400
Yeah, man.

00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.401
I was a little disappointed

00:32:17.421 --> 00:32:19.582
we didn't see any Hokies in there.

00:32:20.123 --> 00:32:20.843
Yeah.

00:32:22.703 --> 00:32:23.724
More so because we saw

00:32:23.765 --> 00:32:25.746
Boston College and Duke and like.

00:32:25.965 --> 00:32:27.747
Yeah.

00:32:27.906 --> 00:32:29.366
I seen a couple of people say, well,

00:32:29.386 --> 00:32:30.288
that's what happens when

00:32:30.728 --> 00:32:31.989
you suck for this long.

00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:32.409
And I'm like,

00:32:32.429 --> 00:32:33.410
there's some other people in

00:32:33.430 --> 00:32:34.390
there that suck too.

00:32:35.289 --> 00:32:36.810
I don't think sucking has

00:32:36.891 --> 00:32:37.852
anything to do with it.

00:32:37.892 --> 00:32:39.252
It's all that it had to do with it.

00:32:39.292 --> 00:32:40.053
That's what she said.

00:32:41.580 --> 00:32:41.921
Yeah.

00:32:43.260 --> 00:32:43.500
Right?

00:32:44.020 --> 00:32:45.642
So I was a little, you know,

00:32:46.122 --> 00:32:47.182
I didn't dig too deep into

00:32:47.201 --> 00:32:48.662
it because I know that's

00:32:48.701 --> 00:32:49.801
just the initial trailer

00:32:50.021 --> 00:32:50.823
and they're going to have

00:32:51.022 --> 00:32:51.903
plenty more come out.

00:32:52.663 --> 00:32:54.383
I just need to see us on something.

00:32:54.742 --> 00:32:56.683
I need to see us on one of them.

00:32:57.183 --> 00:32:58.023
You know what I'm saying?

00:32:58.064 --> 00:32:59.263
So we'll see.

00:33:00.284 --> 00:33:00.604
Curtis?

00:33:01.784 --> 00:33:02.525
I just want to play it.

00:33:03.085 --> 00:33:03.404
That's it.

00:33:03.424 --> 00:33:05.585
I don't have a PS5 or the Xbox,

00:33:05.605 --> 00:33:06.424
whatever's coming out.

00:33:06.464 --> 00:33:07.224
Hey, you know what?

00:33:07.746 --> 00:33:08.905
Look what Robbie's trying to do here.

00:33:09.486 --> 00:33:10.445
Brian, Brian.

00:33:11.755 --> 00:33:12.715
I'm paying a lot of money to

00:33:12.756 --> 00:33:14.356
take my boys to the Bahamas next year.

00:33:14.876 --> 00:33:15.336
Okay.

00:33:15.798 --> 00:33:17.077
I mean, I am too.

00:33:17.419 --> 00:33:17.598
No,

00:33:17.638 --> 00:33:18.720
you ain't because you're only paying

00:33:18.740 --> 00:33:19.019
for one.

00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:19.779
I'm paying for three.

00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:20.861
That's fair.

00:33:20.881 --> 00:33:22.221
You're paying more for sure.

00:33:22.922 --> 00:33:23.843
I'm paying a lot more.

00:33:24.163 --> 00:33:25.844
Let's not even get into that semantics.

00:33:26.805 --> 00:33:28.006
And also,

00:33:28.445 --> 00:33:29.767
we just bought them a game system

00:33:29.906 --> 00:33:31.768
two years ago with the Switch.

00:33:31.847 --> 00:33:34.250
So, we'll see.

00:33:34.650 --> 00:33:35.750
It'll just be hanging out.

00:33:36.804 --> 00:33:38.285
It just gives more reason to

00:33:38.325 --> 00:33:39.726
come over to your house on the weekends.

00:33:40.026 --> 00:33:40.406
It's true.

00:33:40.626 --> 00:33:41.166
It's true, man.

00:33:43.388 --> 00:33:43.689
You know,

00:33:43.709 --> 00:33:45.911
I've seen some theories floated

00:33:45.971 --> 00:33:47.612
out there as to why we're not in there,

00:33:47.652 --> 00:33:47.892
though.

00:33:47.912 --> 00:33:48.952
I don't know if y'all saw those.

00:33:49.353 --> 00:33:49.712
I saw some.

00:33:49.752 --> 00:33:50.433
Yeah, of course.

00:33:51.275 --> 00:33:51.654
You know,

00:33:52.214 --> 00:33:54.876
we got the uniform theory is what

00:33:54.977 --> 00:33:56.218
we're throwing it out there.

00:33:56.317 --> 00:33:57.398
Like, you know,

00:33:57.439 --> 00:33:59.099
they probably got the new uniforms,

00:33:59.681 --> 00:34:00.401
so they're not going to put

00:34:00.441 --> 00:34:01.162
that out there because we

00:34:01.201 --> 00:34:02.082
haven't announced it yet.

00:34:02.923 --> 00:34:03.103
Right.

00:34:04.053 --> 00:34:05.336
Why don't they just announce

00:34:05.395 --> 00:34:06.178
it then and then they can

00:34:06.218 --> 00:34:08.943
put the trailer then just

00:34:08.963 --> 00:34:11.108
do the full intro of the trailer, right?

00:34:12.115 --> 00:34:14.436
Of just Sandman in there.

00:34:15.177 --> 00:34:16.719
I mean... That'd be sick.

00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:18.980
That would be sick, but at the same time,

00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:19.760
I don't know.

00:34:21.260 --> 00:34:24.302
I guess that theory makes as

00:34:24.342 --> 00:34:26.983
much sense as we're not on

00:34:27.003 --> 00:34:27.844
there because we're Dookie.

00:34:28.304 --> 00:34:31.407
Because there's a lot more

00:34:31.427 --> 00:34:34.548
Dookie on there than we are.

00:34:34.628 --> 00:34:35.869
It makes just as much sense

00:34:35.909 --> 00:34:36.650
as that theory.

00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:39.891
If we're talking relevancy, I mean...

00:34:41.016 --> 00:34:42.036
One is just as good as the

00:34:42.096 --> 00:34:43.617
other at this point.

00:34:43.817 --> 00:34:45.177
Let's talk uniforms because

00:34:45.217 --> 00:34:46.157
we at least have gotten

00:34:46.237 --> 00:34:47.858
word that they are coming

00:34:48.418 --> 00:34:50.958
in the next week or so.

00:34:50.978 --> 00:34:53.860
I thought I saw a month or so.

00:34:55.260 --> 00:34:56.920
The quote was week or so.

00:34:58.221 --> 00:34:59.240
Was this probably last night?

00:34:59.260 --> 00:35:01.402
That's what Witt said when

00:35:01.422 --> 00:35:02.242
he put it out there.

00:35:02.422 --> 00:35:04.302
I think that was a mess up.

00:35:04.762 --> 00:35:06.202
And that or so is doing a

00:35:06.282 --> 00:35:07.543
lot of heavy fucking lifting.

00:35:07.722 --> 00:35:07.882
Yeah.

00:35:10.934 --> 00:35:11.853
Right, for real.

00:35:12.735 --> 00:35:14.976
Hey, something that I did forget, though,

00:35:15.476 --> 00:35:16.036
on Perry.

00:35:16.617 --> 00:35:17.396
I was looking up.

00:35:17.936 --> 00:35:19.838
I couldn't remember who was his teammate.

00:35:19.878 --> 00:35:23.539
But Quenshawn Judkins is

00:35:23.579 --> 00:35:25.340
going to Ohio State.

00:35:26.201 --> 00:35:27.782
He played on that Pike Road team.

00:35:27.842 --> 00:35:28.862
They won a championship the

00:35:28.882 --> 00:35:29.762
year they were seniors.

00:35:30.983 --> 00:35:32.264
But the one that's going to Ohio State,

00:35:32.284 --> 00:35:33.344
I think he was at Ole Miss.

00:35:33.884 --> 00:35:35.364
He was their running back on that team.

00:35:36.465 --> 00:35:36.565
And –

00:35:37.748 --> 00:35:38.728
Curtis Perry was the best

00:35:38.748 --> 00:35:40.250
player on that team still.

00:35:40.929 --> 00:35:42.090
So that's saying a lot.

00:35:43.831 --> 00:35:46.514
Curtis Perry had like 25 sacks.

00:35:46.574 --> 00:35:49.235
The next person behind him had maybe four.

00:35:49.876 --> 00:35:51.697
Damn.

00:35:52.117 --> 00:35:53.798
He was a big deal in high school.

00:35:55.099 --> 00:35:55.739
And that's it now.

00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:57.041
They were like 14-0 that year.

00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:58.481
So, again,

00:35:58.561 --> 00:35:59.882
none of that stuff matters in college,

00:35:59.922 --> 00:36:02.056
but if he can –

00:36:02.056 --> 00:36:04.077
if he can get back to who he

00:36:04.257 --> 00:36:05.777
is and get a chance to get

00:36:05.818 --> 00:36:07.199
on the field along with

00:36:07.259 --> 00:36:08.880
what else we have on that defensive line,

00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:10.500
then definitely,

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:11.860
definitely be fun to watch.

00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:13.041
All right.

00:36:13.061 --> 00:36:14.322
Well, let's, let's cross the fingers,

00:36:14.342 --> 00:36:16.722
get the man, let JC, let JC cook.

00:36:17.483 --> 00:36:17.882
That's right.

00:36:17.963 --> 00:36:19.003
Let JC cook.

00:36:19.023 --> 00:36:21.043
I got to give him his props as of now.

00:36:21.063 --> 00:36:22.344
I got to let him do what he's been doing.

00:36:22.405 --> 00:36:23.664
So you're damn right.

00:36:24.346 --> 00:36:25.445
A lot of people shed on him

00:36:25.525 --> 00:36:27.927
over the last 18 months and they didn't,

00:36:28.106 --> 00:36:29.266
they didn't have to eat their words.

00:36:30.128 --> 00:36:30.568
By the way,

00:36:31.317 --> 00:36:33.478
What's your perfect uniform for y'all?

00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:35.981
Do y'all have?

00:36:36.521 --> 00:36:39.923
Well, I know orange for you.

00:36:40.684 --> 00:36:41.864
Make one that looks like this.

00:36:42.445 --> 00:36:44.146
Make one that looks like it.

00:36:44.427 --> 00:36:45.327
No, I'm joking.

00:36:46.469 --> 00:36:46.829
I mean.

00:36:46.849 --> 00:36:49.251
What's that Tony Bahama

00:36:49.311 --> 00:36:50.612
edition of the whole thing?

00:36:51.052 --> 00:36:53.074
I never even thought about it.

00:36:53.094 --> 00:36:54.815
What's a perfect uniform to you, Brian?

00:36:56.777 --> 00:36:58.157
I like something clean.

00:36:58.177 --> 00:37:00.978
I think what I'd like to see

00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.920
is something similar to the 99,

00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:08.141
but give it a little bit more etching.

00:37:08.822 --> 00:37:10.862
Like if you combine 99 with

00:37:11.202 --> 00:37:12.643
what we had in kind of the

00:37:13.322 --> 00:37:15.864
like 04 to 06 with the

00:37:15.903 --> 00:37:18.304
little like piping stripes,

00:37:20.306 --> 00:37:21.405
that would be kind of fire to me.

00:37:23.726 --> 00:37:24.806
I like to see something like that.

00:37:26.568 --> 00:37:28.188
Hokey Stone in the numbers.

00:37:28.547 --> 00:37:30.509
I like Hokey Stone in the numbers.

00:37:30.909 --> 00:37:31.768
That's probably the best

00:37:31.889 --> 00:37:33.829
element of the current journey.

00:37:33.869 --> 00:37:34.909
That is the best element.

00:37:38.273 --> 00:37:40.554
It's like go old school,

00:37:40.994 --> 00:37:42.577
bring some of the slight new elements,

00:37:42.976 --> 00:37:44.438
make it a little upgraded,

00:37:44.838 --> 00:37:45.920
put the Hokie Stones.

00:37:46.179 --> 00:37:46.300
Now,

00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:47.501
the one thing I don't think should be

00:37:47.541 --> 00:37:48.621
a Hokie Stone, and Tally,

00:37:48.643 --> 00:37:49.382
you're going to love this,

00:37:49.903 --> 00:37:52.266
the arms should stay orange numbers.

00:37:52.286 --> 00:37:53.786
Yeah, I like that.

00:37:53.847 --> 00:37:54.907
I do like that.

00:37:55.007 --> 00:37:56.170
I think that looks good.

00:37:56.929 --> 00:37:58.490
That was so unique because

00:37:58.731 --> 00:37:59.672
usually everybody,

00:37:59.731 --> 00:38:01.152
it's whatever's here is here.

00:38:01.554 --> 00:38:02.914
And for those years, it was white,

00:38:03.655 --> 00:38:04.956
but the arm was always seven.

00:38:05.317 --> 00:38:07.117
Or the seven was always orange.

00:38:07.237 --> 00:38:08.599
It was always beautiful because it really,

00:38:09.260 --> 00:38:09.840
it set out.

00:38:10.380 --> 00:38:11.061
No stripes.

00:38:12.161 --> 00:38:12.681
No stripes.

00:38:12.902 --> 00:38:13.682
God, no stripes.

00:38:14.103 --> 00:38:15.985
I'm okay with some piping, but no stripes.

00:38:16.144 --> 00:38:16.364
Yeah.

00:38:16.784 --> 00:38:17.545
Piping.

00:38:17.885 --> 00:38:19.007
I think the main thing with me,

00:38:19.027 --> 00:38:20.148
because I'm not a designer,

00:38:20.387 --> 00:38:21.128
you know what I'm saying?

00:38:21.168 --> 00:38:24.471
But what I want to see is combinations.

00:38:24.630 --> 00:38:25.271
You know what I'm saying?

00:38:25.291 --> 00:38:25.371
Yeah.

00:38:26.693 --> 00:38:27.992
I ain't saying you got to go with,

00:38:28.574 --> 00:38:29.614
you ain't got to be Oregon.

00:38:30.014 --> 00:38:30.733
You know what I'm saying?

00:38:31.173 --> 00:38:32.275
But don't be Alabama.

00:38:32.655 --> 00:38:32.974
You know,

00:38:33.155 --> 00:38:37.735
give me six to ten different

00:38:37.775 --> 00:38:38.456
combinations.

00:38:38.556 --> 00:38:39.916
You know what I'm saying?

00:38:39.936 --> 00:38:42.177
And I ain't saying different jerseys.

00:38:42.657 --> 00:38:45.759
But you can have three to

00:38:45.798 --> 00:38:46.679
four different pants,

00:38:46.998 --> 00:38:48.099
three to four different jerseys,

00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:49.079
and you can mix them up.

00:38:49.835 --> 00:38:51.436
I just want some clean combinations.

00:38:52.976 --> 00:38:55.077
Throw some clean helmets in

00:38:55.097 --> 00:38:56.418
there and just give me an

00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:57.759
all-orange uniform.

00:38:57.878 --> 00:38:58.860
Orange is one of the colors.

00:38:59.500 --> 00:39:00.400
Give us the orange.

00:39:00.460 --> 00:39:01.440
The kids love it.

00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:02.262
I love it.

00:39:02.422 --> 00:39:03.442
They look good in it.

00:39:04.422 --> 00:39:05.043
I don't know.

00:39:06.643 --> 00:39:08.485
Somebody said something about the...

00:39:09.786 --> 00:39:11.487
Y'all remember the orange

00:39:11.547 --> 00:39:12.429
uniforms that we wore

00:39:12.469 --> 00:39:15.610
against UNC when we killed them the year?

00:39:17.092 --> 00:39:17.391
Whatever.

00:39:17.411 --> 00:39:18.492
I can't remember what year it was.

00:39:18.512 --> 00:39:18.492
16.

00:39:20.094 --> 00:39:20.353
Yeah.

00:39:20.994 --> 00:39:23.076
I'm not – on the basketball jerseys,

00:39:23.135 --> 00:39:24.697
it looks great with that font.

00:39:25.217 --> 00:39:26.699
I don't like it on the football jerseys.

00:39:27.219 --> 00:39:30.041
It looks – it don't – so don't do that.

00:39:30.661 --> 00:39:31.802
If you don't do that to me,

00:39:32.222 --> 00:39:33.224
I think I'll be okay with

00:39:33.244 --> 00:39:33.764
the other stuff.

00:39:34.443 --> 00:39:36.085
This is what I think would do for orange.

00:39:36.206 --> 00:39:37.786
Go all orange everything, that's fine.

00:39:38.186 --> 00:39:39.208
A flat orange –

00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:43.083
Keep your whites, like white VT helmet,

00:39:44.083 --> 00:39:44.764
white numbers,

00:39:44.965 --> 00:39:46.226
but then throw the maroon

00:39:46.286 --> 00:39:47.206
seven on the side,

00:39:48.168 --> 00:39:49.610
the maroon number on the side.

00:39:49.730 --> 00:39:51.851
I say seven because I think seven,

00:39:51.911 --> 00:39:53.634
and I think Bick and Hal, that seven.

00:39:53.673 --> 00:39:54.014
I get it.

00:39:54.715 --> 00:39:55.275
I just pop.

00:39:55.295 --> 00:39:55.576
I get it.

00:39:56.175 --> 00:39:57.396
And a maroon on the side,

00:39:57.918 --> 00:39:59.199
but keep it flat.

00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.221
Don't try to brighten it up.

00:40:01.300 --> 00:40:03.382
Keep it a flat orange versus

00:40:03.402 --> 00:40:04.103
a bright orange.

00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:05.940
Because that, to me,

00:40:06.219 --> 00:40:07.059
you look at what's on my

00:40:07.099 --> 00:40:07.760
shirt right here.

00:40:08.581 --> 00:40:09.641
And even your hat tally,

00:40:09.681 --> 00:40:11.101
that's not the super bright orange.

00:40:11.302 --> 00:40:12.563
It's just enough.

00:40:13.023 --> 00:40:14.324
But the orange that you have,

00:40:14.344 --> 00:40:16.605
like the orange that's in

00:40:16.644 --> 00:40:17.505
the logo and the orange

00:40:17.525 --> 00:40:18.465
that you have is more the

00:40:18.505 --> 00:40:20.547
traditional orange that we're used to.

00:40:20.567 --> 00:40:22.327
You don't want to say burnt

00:40:22.447 --> 00:40:23.108
orange because you're

00:40:23.128 --> 00:40:23.929
talking about Texas.

00:40:24.248 --> 00:40:26.329
But it is that more darker, flat orange.

00:40:26.369 --> 00:40:26.951
It ain't like a...

00:40:27.771 --> 00:40:28.751
we started getting to some

00:40:28.791 --> 00:40:31.072
pastel oranges or something.

00:40:31.092 --> 00:40:31.353
Yeah.

00:40:31.693 --> 00:40:32.414
Like, I like orange,

00:40:32.434 --> 00:40:34.534
but I don't go crazy on it like that.

00:40:34.574 --> 00:40:36.317
You know what I'm saying?

00:40:36.376 --> 00:40:37.536
Nike fucked up the palettes.

00:40:37.797 --> 00:40:39.217
Nike fucked up the palettes.

00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:39.938
Yeah,

00:40:39.958 --> 00:40:41.880
they was doing some crazy shit for a

00:40:41.900 --> 00:40:42.099
little bit.

00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:42.820
All right, there we go.

00:40:42.860 --> 00:40:43.840
We just spent eight minutes

00:40:43.860 --> 00:40:45.101
talking about uniforms.

00:40:45.762 --> 00:40:46.003
Right.

00:40:46.523 --> 00:40:47.804
Let's move on.

00:40:48.105 --> 00:40:49.706
And, Brian, you threw on here,

00:40:49.865 --> 00:40:52.188
is the ACC officially on life support?

00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:54.110
If y'all haven't had a chance,

00:40:54.210 --> 00:40:55.592
go read Ross Dellinger over

00:40:55.692 --> 00:40:56.233
at Yahoo Sports.

00:40:56.293 --> 00:40:57.454
I'm going to make a little

00:40:57.974 --> 00:40:59.936
best paragraph from this

00:40:59.996 --> 00:41:00.856
article he wrote about the

00:41:00.896 --> 00:41:02.137
ACC meetings last week.

00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:04.681
Two of its most unruly children,

00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:06.202
Florida State and Clemson,

00:41:06.222 --> 00:41:07.943
are causing disruptions as

00:41:07.983 --> 00:41:09.846
they work to leave the family behind.

00:41:10.989 --> 00:41:11.771
Half dozen,

00:41:12.311 --> 00:41:13.713
and y'all know that's including us,

00:41:14.173 --> 00:41:15.235
of their siblings wish they

00:41:15.275 --> 00:41:16.215
had the resources and the

00:41:16.255 --> 00:41:17.237
wherewithal to join them.

00:41:17.436 --> 00:41:17.998
Another group,

00:41:18.478 --> 00:41:20.139
clinging to their morals and missions,

00:41:20.501 --> 00:41:22.483
are content nestled quietly in their beds,

00:41:22.722 --> 00:41:24.105
avoiding trouble at all costs.

00:41:24.684 --> 00:41:25.967
Angry fists raised towards

00:41:26.007 --> 00:41:27.427
the misbehaving brethren.

00:41:27.447 --> 00:41:31.293
I think that sums it up perfectly.

00:41:33.344 --> 00:41:33.764
Yeah,

00:41:33.864 --> 00:41:35.945
and I think the problem with those

00:41:36.425 --> 00:41:39.387
folks angry with the

00:41:39.427 --> 00:41:41.088
misbehaving brethren are

00:41:41.148 --> 00:41:44.489
misplaced because the ACC

00:41:44.550 --> 00:41:45.610
dug its own grave.

00:41:45.990 --> 00:41:47.371
You're damn right it did.

00:41:48.311 --> 00:41:49.853
When we talk about the modern landscape,

00:41:50.273 --> 00:41:52.494
you can curse ESPN all you want to.

00:41:53.514 --> 00:41:54.275
They started it.

00:41:54.795 --> 00:41:55.655
The other big two

00:41:55.715 --> 00:41:57.056
conferences playing along,

00:41:57.115 --> 00:41:59.016
that put them in a precarious spot.

00:41:59.617 --> 00:42:02.059
But the ACC being inactive...

00:42:02.838 --> 00:42:04.860
After that awful media deal,

00:42:06.501 --> 00:42:07.641
put them in a situation

00:42:07.681 --> 00:42:08.822
where they can no longer compete.

00:42:09.643 --> 00:42:09.884
Right.

00:42:11.204 --> 00:42:13.706
So you signed a bad deal and

00:42:13.746 --> 00:42:14.626
then you didn't do anything

00:42:14.666 --> 00:42:16.027
to rectify it when you had

00:42:16.068 --> 00:42:17.028
the leverage to do so.

00:42:18.248 --> 00:42:19.469
Those two things are why

00:42:19.530 --> 00:42:20.510
your conference is not

00:42:20.530 --> 00:42:22.572
going to exist in the next few years.

00:42:24.853 --> 00:42:25.094
Yep.

00:42:26.074 --> 00:42:26.335
I mean,

00:42:26.375 --> 00:42:27.556
I'm tired of people that just got

00:42:27.596 --> 00:42:28.635
money sitting back and just

00:42:28.655 --> 00:42:29.657
continuing to make money

00:42:29.697 --> 00:42:30.538
and not making changes.

00:42:30.557 --> 00:42:30.617
So.

00:42:32.489 --> 00:42:33.329
Pay the people who are out

00:42:33.349 --> 00:42:34.130
here making the money.

00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:35.289
You know what I'm saying?

00:42:35.349 --> 00:42:36.349
Stop being greedy.

00:42:37.050 --> 00:42:38.690
Like you said, you dug your own grave.

00:42:41.032 --> 00:42:43.052
If you were willing to make changes,

00:42:43.092 --> 00:42:44.253
we wouldn't continue having

00:42:44.273 --> 00:42:45.112
to talk about this.

00:42:46.293 --> 00:42:47.914
The college landscape is changing,

00:42:48.134 --> 00:42:50.795
and we refuse to change.

00:42:51.235 --> 00:42:52.414
We being the ACC.

00:42:53.356 --> 00:42:54.956
And the question was,

00:42:55.056 --> 00:42:56.076
is it on life support?

00:42:57.336 --> 00:42:59.496
That plug is somebody's

00:42:59.516 --> 00:43:00.478
hands on that plug.

00:43:01.385 --> 00:43:03.545
So it's about to get pulled.

00:43:04.005 --> 00:43:04.746
It's close.

00:43:06.086 --> 00:43:06.327
And Brian,

00:43:06.347 --> 00:43:07.686
I'm going to go back to what you said.

00:43:07.706 --> 00:43:09.027
It was about a year ago that

00:43:09.827 --> 00:43:11.007
all the shit started coming

00:43:11.108 --> 00:43:12.748
out with the Pac-12 dying.

00:43:13.268 --> 00:43:14.130
When you talk about the

00:43:14.230 --> 00:43:16.610
brands of football out there,

00:43:17.391 --> 00:43:18.610
the ACC was in a better

00:43:18.630 --> 00:43:19.731
position to go get, right?

00:43:19.992 --> 00:43:23.213
Like going to get Colorado, go get Utah.

00:43:24.041 --> 00:43:26.563
going to get Arizona, Arizona State,

00:43:26.882 --> 00:43:27.782
one of those schools,

00:43:28.362 --> 00:43:29.382
going to get maybe one of

00:43:29.422 --> 00:43:31.443
those schools in the upper northwest.

00:43:33.204 --> 00:43:34.465
The taking was there, right?

00:43:34.505 --> 00:43:35.284
You can save yourself.

00:43:35.344 --> 00:43:36.485
Go get these good,

00:43:36.824 --> 00:43:38.646
passionate fan bases in

00:43:38.686 --> 00:43:39.326
different parts of the

00:43:39.365 --> 00:43:41.085
country to bring in more revenue.

00:43:41.106 --> 00:43:42.686
You get to renegotiate your deal,

00:43:43.226 --> 00:43:44.387
and they sat there.

00:43:45.302 --> 00:43:45.922
They sat there.

00:43:46.262 --> 00:43:47.663
They sat there through the

00:43:47.702 --> 00:43:48.684
loose partnership.

00:43:49.384 --> 00:43:53.726
Then the Big Ten acted and got USC.

00:43:54.166 --> 00:43:55.608
And then they kept sitting.

00:43:55.628 --> 00:43:57.730
They tried to go to Oregon

00:43:57.769 --> 00:44:00.331
or Washington too.

00:44:00.351 --> 00:44:03.793
You should have acted before the Big Ten.

00:44:04.594 --> 00:44:06.094
You waited on the Big Ten to act.

00:44:06.155 --> 00:44:07.596
You should have acted as

00:44:07.916 --> 00:44:09.456
soon as you could after that.

00:44:10.836 --> 00:44:11.378
And you didn't.

00:44:12.494 --> 00:44:12.795
Stupid.

00:44:13.074 --> 00:44:14.195
That's all I'm going to say.

00:44:14.215 --> 00:44:15.275
Then you got the Levens.

00:44:15.295 --> 00:44:16.635
You got pretty much everyone

00:44:16.655 --> 00:44:20.056
that wasn't Wazoo and Oregon State.

00:44:20.896 --> 00:44:21.518
Yes.

00:44:21.577 --> 00:44:22.637
That's basically what you got.

00:44:22.657 --> 00:44:23.418
You got the Levens.

00:44:23.737 --> 00:44:26.018
And the sad part about what they got is,

00:44:26.278 --> 00:44:26.978
you take a look,

00:44:27.378 --> 00:44:29.260
those two fan bases are passionate.

00:44:29.460 --> 00:44:31.860
They're big public schools, like 25,000,

00:44:31.860 --> 00:44:32.981
35,000 people.

00:44:33.340 --> 00:44:34.820
They're passionate fan bases.

00:44:35.422 --> 00:44:36.961
And you go get Stanford and Cal,

00:44:37.001 --> 00:44:38.141
who are the two least

00:44:38.181 --> 00:44:40.302
passionate fan bases out there.

00:44:41.291 --> 00:44:42.110
the least passionate.

00:44:42.630 --> 00:44:44.532
Yes, you need capitalism and yeah, money.

00:44:45.052 --> 00:44:45.911
But you know what?

00:44:46.652 --> 00:44:48.213
Raidens and people watching

00:44:48.293 --> 00:44:49.592
the programs are what's

00:44:49.612 --> 00:44:50.632
going to make you thrive.

00:44:50.693 --> 00:44:51.833
And basically,

00:44:52.614 --> 00:44:53.733
the whole thing People need to care.

00:44:53.813 --> 00:44:54.494
Like right now,

00:44:54.554 --> 00:44:55.974
no one cares about the ACC.

00:44:56.394 --> 00:44:58.135
And I'm thinking about the

00:44:58.175 --> 00:44:59.635
teams that are in the ACC.

00:45:00.295 --> 00:45:01.115
I don't think anyone really

00:45:01.175 --> 00:45:03.076
cares about the ACC anymore.

00:45:03.115 --> 00:45:03.936
They aren't serious.

00:45:05.257 --> 00:45:06.277
They are.

00:45:06.916 --> 00:45:07.237
Yeah.

00:45:07.376 --> 00:45:09.597
So, I think that's the biggest problem.

00:45:09.617 --> 00:45:10.838
And when you look at

00:45:12.369 --> 00:45:14.889
Those teams like Wazoo and Oregon State,

00:45:15.269 --> 00:45:16.869
yeah, they got passionate fan bases,

00:45:19.030 --> 00:45:21.692
but they're not going to be

00:45:21.731 --> 00:45:23.293
excited about the ACC just

00:45:23.333 --> 00:45:24.393
like we weren't excited

00:45:24.432 --> 00:45:25.893
about their media markets.

00:45:26.213 --> 00:45:26.494
Right.

00:45:27.934 --> 00:45:29.534
You effectively had the chance.

00:45:29.594 --> 00:45:30.735
The chance was the second

00:45:30.835 --> 00:45:32.735
USC and UCLA went to the Big Ten,

00:45:32.775 --> 00:45:33.496
you should have went up to

00:45:33.536 --> 00:45:34.596
that upper northwest and

00:45:34.655 --> 00:45:36.137
looked at UW and looked at

00:45:36.217 --> 00:45:37.737
Oregon and just said, listen,

00:45:38.516 --> 00:45:39.717
you know it's falling apart.

00:45:40.612 --> 00:45:41.454
We got Clemson.

00:45:41.614 --> 00:45:42.615
We got Florida State.

00:45:42.936 --> 00:45:43.516
We've got some of these

00:45:43.556 --> 00:45:45.400
other big name programs on

00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:46.121
the East Coast.

00:45:46.442 --> 00:45:47.925
You know you can get eyes on you.

00:45:48.306 --> 00:45:48.847
But they didn't.

00:45:49.286 --> 00:45:49.847
They sat there.

00:45:50.228 --> 00:45:53.054
They did what no business person can do.

00:45:53.958 --> 00:45:55.300
And we three work for companies.

00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:57.181
You cannot just sit there and not act.

00:45:57.702 --> 00:45:58.481
And that's what they did.

00:45:58.862 --> 00:45:59.742
And therefore, it's going to die.

00:46:00.123 --> 00:46:01.364
I just hope we land somewhere.

00:46:02.025 --> 00:46:03.485
I just hope we land where we need to land.

00:46:04.106 --> 00:46:05.248
I know we'll land somewhere.

00:46:05.847 --> 00:46:07.188
We need to land where we need to land.

00:46:07.208 --> 00:46:07.809
That's one of the P2s.

00:46:07.829 --> 00:46:08.449
We need to go out and win.

00:46:08.469 --> 00:46:09.411
Speaking about sitting

00:46:09.431 --> 00:46:10.532
around and doing nothing,

00:46:20.016 --> 00:46:20.458
Dabo.

00:46:21.057 --> 00:46:21.478
Oh, God.

00:46:21.518 --> 00:46:22.360
Do you have the quote?

00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:23.762
Please tell me you have the quote.

00:46:23.981 --> 00:46:24.983
I got to find a quote.

00:46:25.664 --> 00:46:26.606
I can paraphrase it.

00:46:28.407 --> 00:46:29.550
Which one do you want me to paraphrase?

00:46:29.570 --> 00:46:30.731
Because there was two out there that...

00:46:31.983 --> 00:46:33.344
struck a chord, I think.

00:46:34.143 --> 00:46:36.684
The one that I want is the portal quote.

00:46:37.045 --> 00:46:40.025
Because the portal quote is the best one.

00:46:40.226 --> 00:46:41.407
Because go look at some of

00:46:41.427 --> 00:46:42.547
the people that are getting

00:46:42.586 --> 00:46:44.007
scholarships on that roster.

00:46:44.568 --> 00:46:45.568
Hey, Curtis, can I tell you,

00:46:45.628 --> 00:46:46.467
did you know this?

00:46:46.568 --> 00:46:48.449
That zero players that were

00:46:48.509 --> 00:46:49.829
in the transfer portal in

00:46:49.849 --> 00:46:50.869
the last three or four

00:46:50.929 --> 00:46:52.190
cycles are Clemson worthy.

00:46:54.391 --> 00:46:55.231
Because that's basically

00:46:55.271 --> 00:46:55.952
what he fucking said.

00:46:55.972 --> 00:46:57.152
That's basically what he said.

00:46:57.492 --> 00:46:58.733
And they ain't won no championship.

00:46:59.913 --> 00:47:00.833
It actually got worse.

00:47:01.572 --> 00:47:02.934
Dabo is being retarded.

00:47:03.534 --> 00:47:04.114
Excuse me.

00:47:04.275 --> 00:47:05.074
Might not need to say that.

00:47:05.456 --> 00:47:06.617
Dabo is being dumb.

00:47:07.077 --> 00:47:08.418
There you go.

00:47:08.438 --> 00:47:10.239
Dabo used to have a roster

00:47:10.298 --> 00:47:14.641
full of Artavius and Deshawns.

00:47:16.202 --> 00:47:19.045
Now you want Wills and Johns.

00:47:20.045 --> 00:47:21.706
You better go back and get some Deshawns,

00:47:21.746 --> 00:47:21.967
boy.

00:47:23.728 --> 00:47:24.409
It's getting a little

00:47:24.429 --> 00:47:25.429
different looking over there.

00:47:26.641 --> 00:47:29.561
When they got a white running back,

00:47:30.003 --> 00:47:30.762
I knew it was over.

00:47:30.822 --> 00:47:31.242
It was over.

00:47:31.282 --> 00:47:31.702
They were cooked.

00:47:32.744 --> 00:47:34.184
Hold on.

00:47:34.244 --> 00:47:35.025
Shipley was sick.

00:47:35.784 --> 00:47:38.425
Shipley was good.

00:47:38.465 --> 00:47:40.766
He might have been mixed a

00:47:40.786 --> 00:47:42.967
little bit or something.

00:47:43.248 --> 00:47:44.628
And I can't take nothing

00:47:44.668 --> 00:47:47.009
away from Christian McCaffrey.

00:47:47.329 --> 00:47:48.110
Christian McCaffrey.

00:47:48.429 --> 00:47:49.409
He's got a drop, right?

00:47:51.690 --> 00:47:54.913
But no, Delbo would be on some Delbo shit,

00:47:54.952 --> 00:47:55.132
man.

00:47:55.534 --> 00:47:57.394
That's why we cannot lose

00:47:57.594 --> 00:47:59.976
when they come to the house this year.

00:47:59.996 --> 00:48:01.438
We got to make him look ridiculous.

00:48:01.458 --> 00:48:02.358
And I mean,

00:48:02.657 --> 00:48:04.260
because he says ridiculous stuff.

00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:04.920
Like saying,

00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:07.161
we're all about the transfer portal.

00:48:07.601 --> 00:48:08.501
Every player we had

00:48:08.581 --> 00:48:10.443
transfers from high school to college.

00:48:10.864 --> 00:48:13.405
Motherfucker.

00:48:13.465 --> 00:48:15.786
You can't be that all shucks.

00:48:16.748 --> 00:48:18.208
Man, what the hell?

00:48:21.094 --> 00:48:22.994
Hey, listen.

00:48:23.235 --> 00:48:23.916
Better for us.

00:48:24.976 --> 00:48:26.677
It's better for us.

00:48:27.277 --> 00:48:32.541
If we turn a giant just into a big guy,

00:48:33.121 --> 00:48:37.123
that's something.

00:48:37.164 --> 00:48:38.244
Before we get to the back

00:48:38.284 --> 00:48:40.166
half tonight of this episode,

00:48:40.226 --> 00:48:41.746
we are going to take a

00:48:41.827 --> 00:48:43.268
break from our digital

00:48:43.288 --> 00:48:45.329
partners and Main Street Pharmacy.

00:48:46.795 --> 00:48:47.735
I can probably save you a

00:48:47.775 --> 00:48:49.036
lot of money and I can take

00:48:49.076 --> 00:48:49.936
a lot better care of you.

00:48:50.476 --> 00:48:51.277
That's pretty much it.

00:48:51.856 --> 00:48:53.057
My name is Jeremy Counts and

00:48:53.137 --> 00:48:53.818
I'm a pharmacist.

00:48:54.318 --> 00:48:55.278
I own and operate Main

00:48:55.298 --> 00:48:56.179
Street Pharmacy here in

00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:56.960
downtown Blacksburg.

00:48:57.460 --> 00:48:58.599
My brother's a pharmacist,

00:48:58.659 --> 00:49:00.041
I'm a pharmacist, my uncle's a pharmacist,

00:49:00.081 --> 00:49:00.942
my dad's a pharmacist.

00:49:01.262 --> 00:49:02.121
I remember he would give me

00:49:02.242 --> 00:49:04.603
M&M's to count in little pill counters.

00:49:05.003 --> 00:49:05.784
This is something I've

00:49:05.804 --> 00:49:06.884
always done and I'm just

00:49:07.023 --> 00:49:08.644
lucky that what I know so

00:49:08.684 --> 00:49:10.445
well is something that I

00:49:10.485 --> 00:49:11.465
can do and feel good about

00:49:11.505 --> 00:49:12.347
it and give back to people.

00:49:13.231 --> 00:49:14.751
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00:49:15.112 --> 00:49:16.391
Pharmacy's job is to make

00:49:16.452 --> 00:49:17.572
sure you're getting optimal

00:49:17.592 --> 00:49:19.132
care for the lowest price possible.

00:49:19.793 --> 00:49:20.132
Also,

00:49:20.353 --> 00:49:22.233
we take the pressure off of emergency

00:49:22.273 --> 00:49:22.494
rooms.

00:49:22.693 --> 00:49:23.713
I'll tell people immediately

00:49:23.733 --> 00:49:24.333
when they need to go to the

00:49:24.373 --> 00:49:25.454
doctor or I'll tell them if

00:49:25.514 --> 00:49:27.034
they just need a cream over the counter.

00:49:27.414 --> 00:49:28.416
If there's something that

00:49:28.516 --> 00:49:29.615
isn't commercially available,

00:49:29.815 --> 00:49:30.576
if it's something that's

00:49:30.615 --> 00:49:31.856
not available in a certain

00:49:31.896 --> 00:49:33.396
strength or a certain form

00:49:33.436 --> 00:49:34.737
or anything like that, we'll make it.

00:49:35.077 --> 00:49:36.057
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00:49:36.378 --> 00:49:37.257
Some of those options save

00:49:37.277 --> 00:49:38.018
people a lot of money.

00:49:38.438 --> 00:49:39.099
What motivates me?

00:49:39.259 --> 00:49:40.418
I get to take care of people

00:49:40.458 --> 00:49:41.280
and limit Blacksburg.

00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:42.239
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Now back to the episode.

00:50:07.494 --> 00:50:08.114
What's up, man?

00:50:08.175 --> 00:50:08.735
Last week,

00:50:08.775 --> 00:50:10.936
we made an announcement that the

00:50:10.976 --> 00:50:12.938
Boundary Corner family was growing and

00:50:13.525 --> 00:50:14.927
One of our members had been

00:50:14.987 --> 00:50:16.288
on with us a couple weeks prior,

00:50:16.307 --> 00:50:17.047
Shelton Moss,

00:50:17.128 --> 00:50:20.090
our new sports analytics guy.

00:50:20.911 --> 00:50:21.572
Love Shelton.

00:50:21.592 --> 00:50:22.492
He's going to be joining us

00:50:22.594 --> 00:50:23.675
in just a couple weeks and

00:50:23.894 --> 00:50:25.235
a lot throughout the year.

00:50:25.536 --> 00:50:26.137
But, buddy,

00:50:26.817 --> 00:50:28.938
we're going to go from a

00:50:28.978 --> 00:50:31.501
two-man band to a three-man band tonight.

00:50:32.543 --> 00:50:34.143
And without further ado,

00:50:36.545 --> 00:50:38.128
we welcome our new co-host.

00:50:39.346 --> 00:50:40.166
Jonathan Talley.

00:50:40.246 --> 00:50:42.007
Talley, how are you tonight, sir?

00:50:42.047 --> 00:50:43.307
What's going on, guys?

00:50:44.068 --> 00:50:45.088
What is going on?

00:50:45.128 --> 00:50:46.489
Doing wonderful tonight, man.

00:50:47.108 --> 00:50:48.230
That's the last time we're

00:50:48.250 --> 00:50:50.831
going to have to bring you on midstream,

00:50:50.871 --> 00:50:51.090
man.

00:50:51.130 --> 00:50:51.992
From here on out,

00:50:52.492 --> 00:50:53.592
we're going to roll it from the gate.

00:50:54.452 --> 00:50:56.393
Curtis and Brian had a baby,

00:50:56.432 --> 00:50:57.673
and that baby looks like this.

00:50:59.135 --> 00:51:00.155
This is what you got.

00:51:00.195 --> 00:51:01.815
This is what we got.

00:51:01.856 --> 00:51:02.775
The combination.

00:51:02.876 --> 00:51:03.255
Listen.

00:51:03.275 --> 00:51:04.396
The combination, baby.

00:51:04.740 --> 00:51:06.842
The combination of Brian Curtis' tally.

00:51:06.882 --> 00:51:07.481
Listen, man,

00:51:07.661 --> 00:51:08.983
it is so awesome to have you

00:51:09.023 --> 00:51:10.063
now as part of this.

00:51:10.344 --> 00:51:11.824
Buddy, we got a full house tonight.

00:51:11.903 --> 00:51:12.505
How you feeling?

00:51:13.525 --> 00:51:13.824
Man,

00:51:13.864 --> 00:51:15.065
just take a good look at the screen

00:51:15.106 --> 00:51:18.467
right now because ever so

00:51:18.547 --> 00:51:19.807
few is going to wreak so

00:51:19.827 --> 00:51:22.248
much havoc on Hokie Nation going forward.

00:51:23.630 --> 00:51:25.891
Tally, our full-time third co-host.

00:51:26.130 --> 00:51:30.653
Shelton, our full-time data analytics,

00:51:30.713 --> 00:51:31.893
sports analytics expert,

00:51:31.994 --> 00:51:33.474
part-time co-host.

00:51:35.289 --> 00:51:36.954
The four of us now ride here

00:51:36.974 --> 00:51:38.179
at the Boundary Corner podcast.

00:51:38.219 --> 00:51:38.619
There we go.

00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:40.726
That's what we are.

00:51:45.989 --> 00:51:46.289
All right.

00:51:46.811 --> 00:51:49.393
That was just a little over

00:51:49.414 --> 00:51:50.954
a year ago where we

00:51:51.014 --> 00:51:52.777
expanded from two to three

00:51:52.836 --> 00:51:53.757
and then to four.

00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:57.943
And in the last year, it has been a ride,

00:51:57.963 --> 00:51:58.302
man.

00:51:58.483 --> 00:51:59.623
I tell you what, Tally,

00:52:00.264 --> 00:52:02.547
still so happy that you were part of this,

00:52:03.168 --> 00:52:04.469
gotten to know you even better,

00:52:04.789 --> 00:52:05.530
got to meet you.

00:52:08.251 --> 00:52:10.353
And we text all the time.

00:52:10.393 --> 00:52:11.333
We talk all the time.

00:52:11.373 --> 00:52:13.012
We get on a call today just

00:52:13.052 --> 00:52:13.612
chatting about what we're

00:52:13.632 --> 00:52:14.293
going to do tonight.

00:52:14.434 --> 00:52:16.313
And it's awesome, man.

00:52:16.373 --> 00:52:17.534
And Sheldon's out there.

00:52:17.793 --> 00:52:18.954
Sheldon's working, by the way.

00:52:19.014 --> 00:52:20.215
He will be back with us at

00:52:20.255 --> 00:52:22.094
some point over the next few weeks.

00:52:22.155 --> 00:52:24.456
The hardest working man in BCP,

00:52:24.976 --> 00:52:25.655
Sheldon Moss.

00:52:26.295 --> 00:52:26.896
Yes, he is.

00:52:27.675 --> 00:52:28.195
But, man,

00:52:28.317 --> 00:52:30.871
it's been so awesome these last –

00:52:30.871 --> 00:52:32.791
this last year plus and

00:52:32.831 --> 00:52:33.771
having all y'all and,

00:52:34.012 --> 00:52:37.032
and I'm so glad both y'all

00:52:37.492 --> 00:52:40.233
chose to come and be part of this stuff,

00:52:40.273 --> 00:52:40.474
man.

00:52:41.414 --> 00:52:41.815
Yeah, man.

00:52:41.875 --> 00:52:43.554
It's been a, it's been a great ride, man.

00:52:43.614 --> 00:52:44.916
It's been, it's only getting better.

00:52:45.155 --> 00:52:45.896
You know, we, we,

00:52:47.275 --> 00:52:48.556
we just get on here and have fun.

00:52:48.896 --> 00:52:50.436
We just get on here and do

00:52:50.456 --> 00:52:52.038
what we we've been doing for years.

00:52:52.971 --> 00:52:54.193
We just share it with the world.

00:52:55.875 --> 00:52:57.596
We just find new family

00:52:57.615 --> 00:52:59.559
members every week.

00:52:59.579 --> 00:53:00.980
We're so thankful for

00:53:01.019 --> 00:53:02.181
everybody who tunes in.

00:53:03.061 --> 00:53:04.423
You guys spend time with us.

00:53:04.744 --> 00:53:06.005
I get so many calls and

00:53:06.065 --> 00:53:08.829
texts and messages and

00:53:08.869 --> 00:53:10.190
things like that of people who's

00:53:11.331 --> 00:53:14.972
at the job listening to the podcast.

00:53:15.052 --> 00:53:15.893
Of course,

00:53:15.914 --> 00:53:17.074
we love when you guys get on

00:53:17.155 --> 00:53:18.996
live and we're able to have

00:53:19.016 --> 00:53:20.115
some interaction with you.

00:53:20.576 --> 00:53:21.916
Even if you're a Miami fan,

00:53:22.277 --> 00:53:23.097
we still love you.

00:53:23.277 --> 00:53:24.918
We ain't going to hold it against you.

00:53:25.748 --> 00:53:27.329
But honestly, man,

00:53:27.409 --> 00:53:30.090
it's been a wonderful ride to think.

00:53:30.690 --> 00:53:33.952
For me being nervous and

00:53:33.992 --> 00:53:36.634
scared to step out to do something new,

00:53:37.333 --> 00:53:39.456
for these guys pushing me to say, hey,

00:53:40.036 --> 00:53:42.277
come join us and we'll make it work.

00:53:43.577 --> 00:53:45.298
And it's been nothing but

00:53:45.318 --> 00:53:46.539
love since I've been here, man.

00:53:46.579 --> 00:53:46.900
I'm just...

00:53:47.755 --> 00:53:47.976
you know,

00:53:47.996 --> 00:53:50.498
full of joy and excited for what

00:53:50.518 --> 00:53:52.139
we've accomplished in the past year,

00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:53.260
the growth that we've seen.

00:53:53.981 --> 00:53:56.483
And, I mean, that's just getting started.

00:53:56.583 --> 00:53:58.204
Like, we got a long way to go.

00:53:58.704 --> 00:53:59.806
We got a lot of stuff that's

00:53:59.826 --> 00:54:02.007
still out there for BCP.

00:54:02.668 --> 00:54:02.909
Oh, yeah.

00:54:04.161 --> 00:54:05.541
Yeah, we're going to keep doing our thing.

00:54:05.561 --> 00:54:06.443
We're going to keep growing,

00:54:06.483 --> 00:54:08.485
and it's going to be a

00:54:08.565 --> 00:54:09.585
lovely thing to watch.

00:54:09.925 --> 00:54:12.027
And it's been an awesome

00:54:12.068 --> 00:54:14.190
year plus having you and Shelton on board,

00:54:14.210 --> 00:54:14.510
man.

00:54:15.891 --> 00:54:18.994
It's been amazing watching

00:54:19.034 --> 00:54:21.416
how that was the catalyst

00:54:21.436 --> 00:54:22.297
for a lot of the growth

00:54:22.336 --> 00:54:23.438
we've seen in the last year.

00:54:23.458 --> 00:54:27.021
And just appreciative of

00:54:27.061 --> 00:54:28.161
what you bring to the table

00:54:28.641 --> 00:54:30.724
and everything that you do for the show,

00:54:30.744 --> 00:54:31.264
man.

00:54:31.324 --> 00:54:32.025
It's been a blessing.

00:54:33.353 --> 00:54:34.375
It definitely has.

00:54:35.175 --> 00:54:35.594
Now,

00:54:36.255 --> 00:54:38.155
what we're doing tonight in the second

00:54:38.195 --> 00:54:39.036
half here is just a little

00:54:39.077 --> 00:54:40.938
retrospective of a lot of

00:54:40.998 --> 00:54:44.719
our conversations with coaches, players,

00:54:45.500 --> 00:54:46.280
media members, friends.

00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:49.021
You know, Mike and David, Robbie,

00:54:49.521 --> 00:54:50.822
people that have been on Friends.

00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:55.820
It's always great to have.

00:54:56.481 --> 00:54:57.661
And believe it or not,

00:54:57.922 --> 00:55:00.682
it was a year ago tomorrow, I think.

00:55:00.762 --> 00:55:01.284
Right, Brian?

00:55:01.304 --> 00:55:02.063
It was May 22nd.

00:55:02.204 --> 00:55:03.364
Does that sound right?

00:55:03.704 --> 00:55:04.485
That sounds right.

00:55:05.045 --> 00:55:06.367
Something I think we

00:55:06.387 --> 00:55:07.947
probably all three never thought we'd do.

00:55:08.628 --> 00:55:10.309
We sat down on a Zoom call

00:55:10.688 --> 00:55:11.429
and interviewed the head

00:55:11.469 --> 00:55:12.590
coach of Virginia Tech Hokies.

00:55:13.269 --> 00:55:15.711
He gave us damn near an hour.

00:55:17.784 --> 00:55:21.166
It was one of those surreal moments.

00:55:22.806 --> 00:55:23.467
That's the coach.

00:55:24.967 --> 00:55:27.467
That is the leader of the team we follow.

00:55:27.967 --> 00:55:34.009
He's giving us time.

00:55:34.088 --> 00:55:36.789
One of the biggest things for me, man,

00:55:36.869 --> 00:55:38.710
is just me being a fan.

00:55:38.730 --> 00:55:40.590
That's great.

00:55:40.630 --> 00:55:41.271
Don't get me wrong.

00:55:42.391 --> 00:55:43.771
Being able to talk to Coach Pryor,

00:55:44.112 --> 00:55:44.751
the leader of the

00:55:45.614 --> 00:55:46.896
program that we love and we

00:55:46.956 --> 00:55:49.016
follow was great but to

00:55:49.056 --> 00:55:50.498
have Kyron come on the show

00:55:50.737 --> 00:55:52.179
and yes like I said man

00:55:52.219 --> 00:55:53.280
like for me being in the

00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.101
position that I was in with

00:55:55.141 --> 00:55:57.943
my son being hurt and Kyron

00:55:57.983 --> 00:55:59.963
before the show saying hey

00:56:00.003 --> 00:56:01.224
man I know your son's hurt

00:56:01.746 --> 00:56:02.626
just tell him to hang in

00:56:02.666 --> 00:56:03.666
there and having that

00:56:03.706 --> 00:56:06.188
conversation just he didn't

00:56:06.208 --> 00:56:07.268
have to do that you know

00:56:07.289 --> 00:56:09.590
what I'm saying like to have people

00:56:10.951 --> 00:56:12.012
To have a family that

00:56:12.092 --> 00:56:13.411
extends beyond your reach,

00:56:13.873 --> 00:56:15.032
that's sending prayers up

00:56:15.072 --> 00:56:17.735
for your family is what this is about.

00:56:17.974 --> 00:56:20.275
It's what this community is about.

00:56:20.876 --> 00:56:22.697
His dad, his family,

00:56:23.157 --> 00:56:24.478
praying for my family and

00:56:24.557 --> 00:56:25.818
all of us being family.

00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:28.840
Stuff like that is why I'm

00:56:28.900 --> 00:56:31.041
so excited about being a

00:56:31.081 --> 00:56:32.581
part of this community and

00:56:32.621 --> 00:56:35.344
being able to be a part of this podcast.

00:56:37.744 --> 00:56:40.306
you meeting Michael Vick was great,

00:56:40.706 --> 00:56:41.746
you know, meeting prize.

00:56:41.827 --> 00:56:42.086
Great.

00:56:42.286 --> 00:56:43.688
All of this stuff is wonderful,

00:56:43.728 --> 00:56:45.648
but things like that, man,

00:56:45.728 --> 00:56:46.309
it's priceless.

00:56:46.349 --> 00:56:47.269
You can't, you can't put a,

00:56:47.309 --> 00:56:49.251
you can't put a number on that.

00:56:49.391 --> 00:56:50.110
You know what I mean?

00:56:50.311 --> 00:56:51.452
So that's awesome.

00:56:52.112 --> 00:56:52.271
Yeah.

00:56:52.291 --> 00:56:53.233
And I think that, you know,

00:56:53.432 --> 00:56:54.213
you said it's Allie,

00:56:54.233 --> 00:56:56.014
like community is the big thing, right?

00:56:56.094 --> 00:56:56.574
So like,

00:56:57.795 --> 00:56:59.336
When we go to Blacksburg,

00:56:59.356 --> 00:57:01.077
when me and Curtis went out

00:57:01.117 --> 00:57:02.539
to the tailgate tour,

00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:04.581
just interacting with

00:57:05.021 --> 00:57:07.403
people that love Hokie Nation,

00:57:07.443 --> 00:57:08.885
love the same things that we do,

00:57:10.126 --> 00:57:11.166
and appreciate the things

00:57:11.206 --> 00:57:11.987
that we're bringing to the

00:57:12.047 --> 00:57:13.650
table from a content perspective,

00:57:13.869 --> 00:57:14.369
and just...

00:57:16.172 --> 00:57:19.094
sharing in that love has been incredible.

00:57:20.454 --> 00:57:22.277
You know, between, you know, Tally,

00:57:22.396 --> 00:57:24.679
me and you going down and

00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.981
doing the pregame show last year,

00:57:27.021 --> 00:57:27.800
doing the pregame show

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:29.422
again this year with those boys.

00:57:29.483 --> 00:57:30.804
I mean, you know,

00:57:31.384 --> 00:57:33.246
what the opportunities that

00:57:33.286 --> 00:57:34.547
we've had because of this

00:57:34.606 --> 00:57:36.108
to grow that community and

00:57:37.528 --> 00:57:39.231
be a part of that has been, I think,

00:57:39.271 --> 00:57:41.271
the biggest blessing of this whole thing.

00:57:41.932 --> 00:57:42.472
Oh, yeah, definitely.

00:57:42.512 --> 00:57:42.592
Yeah.

00:57:43.233 --> 00:57:44.094
A thousand percent.

00:57:44.114 --> 00:57:46.195
All right, so let's do some retrospective,

00:57:46.235 --> 00:57:46.476
boys.

00:57:46.516 --> 00:57:48.117
Let's look at some clips

00:57:48.177 --> 00:57:51.199
over the last year plus and

00:57:52.018 --> 00:57:53.460
our interviews with Coach Prye,

00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:55.021
some stuff just us,

00:57:55.721 --> 00:57:57.621
some stuff with some of the players.

00:57:58.262 --> 00:57:59.784
And let's start with this one, Brian.

00:58:00.244 --> 00:58:01.324
This was with Coach Prye

00:58:01.364 --> 00:58:03.746
last year and the message

00:58:03.945 --> 00:58:05.367
that he sent when it talked

00:58:05.407 --> 00:58:07.367
about getting to know the players.

00:58:09.875 --> 00:58:11.635
It's a big area of emphasis,

00:58:11.675 --> 00:58:13.016
and I think in year one,

00:58:13.077 --> 00:58:16.259
it's hard to know enough about each guy.

00:58:16.659 --> 00:58:19.360
You haven't been around them enough.

00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:20.360
And that's on the field,

00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:22.121
that's off the field, that's all of it.

00:58:22.822 --> 00:58:24.483
But when you have a whole cycle with them,

00:58:24.963 --> 00:58:25.884
you just feel a little

00:58:25.923 --> 00:58:27.164
better about what you know,

00:58:27.565 --> 00:58:28.766
and you can work on things.

00:58:29.065 --> 00:58:30.387
So I think we did a good job there,

00:58:30.407 --> 00:58:33.088
a much better job, myself and the staff.

00:58:33.869 --> 00:58:34.750
And then the additional

00:58:34.789 --> 00:58:37.110
piece is just really being

00:58:37.130 --> 00:58:38.492
the best head coach I can be.

00:58:39.574 --> 00:58:40.916
Yes, sir, definitely, definitely.

00:58:40.956 --> 00:58:42.157
Instead of spending half my

00:58:42.217 --> 00:58:43.840
time back in the defensive room,

00:58:44.481 --> 00:58:45.623
I was able to spend a bunch

00:58:45.684 --> 00:58:46.706
of time right here at this

00:58:46.786 --> 00:58:48.568
desk doing head coaching duty.

00:58:58.836 --> 00:59:00.237
And so that was Coach Pryor

00:59:00.277 --> 00:59:01.278
talking about that year one

00:59:01.298 --> 00:59:02.340
or year two transition.

00:59:02.940 --> 00:59:05.141
And both of you guys, you know,

00:59:05.181 --> 00:59:06.342
play collegiate football.

00:59:06.603 --> 00:59:07.724
And I want to get kind of

00:59:07.764 --> 00:59:08.985
your take on that because

00:59:09.326 --> 00:59:10.387
the way he talked about it

00:59:10.487 --> 00:59:12.168
is I came in in December.

00:59:13.349 --> 00:59:14.931
I got like five months to know these kids.

00:59:17.092 --> 00:59:19.215
And he mentions that.

00:59:19.815 --> 00:59:20.916
What does that say to y'all,

00:59:20.976 --> 00:59:22.097
not only him as a coach,

00:59:22.177 --> 00:59:25.460
but like maybe what we saw last year?

00:59:28.762 --> 00:59:29.623
I'll let Brian start.

00:59:32.146 --> 00:59:32.246
Yeah.

00:59:32.286 --> 00:59:33.626
I mean, I think the big thing is that,

00:59:33.726 --> 00:59:35.387
you know, he is big on relationships,

00:59:35.447 --> 00:59:35.668
right?

00:59:36.688 --> 00:59:40.172
So needing to establish that relationship,

00:59:40.211 --> 00:59:41.291
I think was big for him.

00:59:41.552 --> 00:59:42.753
And I think coming in and I

00:59:44.255 --> 00:59:45.114
don't think proud was ever

00:59:45.135 --> 00:59:46.115
going to be a guy that was

00:59:46.195 --> 00:59:48.338
Dion style coming in and like,

00:59:48.418 --> 00:59:49.318
I'm going to clear house.

00:59:49.378 --> 00:59:51.019
I'm going to bring in all my guys and,

00:59:51.911 --> 00:59:52.851
He was going to establish

00:59:52.891 --> 00:59:54.413
relationships with who was there,

00:59:55.172 --> 00:59:56.293
get to know those guys,

00:59:56.393 --> 00:59:57.853
figure out what their strengths were,

00:59:57.914 --> 00:59:58.994
what their weaknesses were,

00:59:59.695 --> 01:00:01.655
and then make evaluations based on that,

01:00:01.876 --> 01:00:02.675
given his honest

01:00:02.695 --> 01:00:04.496
perspective and not just

01:00:04.536 --> 01:00:05.456
whatever the knee-jerk

01:00:05.496 --> 01:00:07.978
reaction was in those first

01:00:08.018 --> 01:00:08.918
few weeks together, right?

01:00:09.918 --> 01:00:10.920
So I think that's where it

01:00:10.940 --> 01:00:12.079
probably plays into,

01:00:13.061 --> 01:00:13.880
into the most of that

01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:14.802
relationship building and

01:00:14.822 --> 01:00:16.083
those relationships take time.

01:00:16.143 --> 01:00:17.143
But, you know,

01:00:17.163 --> 01:00:19.043
I think we saw going into

01:00:19.103 --> 01:00:20.525
last year and kind of after

01:00:20.565 --> 01:00:22.045
the adversity of the first month,

01:00:22.106 --> 01:00:24.867
like they started to fully buy in to,

01:00:25.387 --> 01:00:26.309
to that piece of it.

01:00:27.168 --> 01:00:27.889
And, you know,

01:00:27.929 --> 01:00:29.289
that's a tight knit group now.

01:00:29.550 --> 01:00:31.110
And I think it all started back in,

01:00:31.411 --> 01:00:32.592
in that groundwork that was

01:00:32.632 --> 01:00:33.452
laid in year one.

01:00:35.153 --> 01:00:35.494
Yeah.

01:00:35.974 --> 01:00:36.695
Yeah, definitely.

01:00:36.875 --> 01:00:36.974
Um,

01:00:37.867 --> 01:00:39.827
Kind of the same thing I was thinking,

01:00:40.168 --> 01:00:41.568
you know, as far as, like you said,

01:00:41.608 --> 01:00:43.648
relationships.

01:00:45.028 --> 01:00:45.688
Honestly, man,

01:00:45.728 --> 01:00:46.708
I didn't know much about

01:00:46.768 --> 01:00:47.989
Pryor when he got the job.

01:00:48.389 --> 01:00:51.489
You know, I went by Robbie talking to us,

01:00:51.769 --> 01:00:52.630
people that I trust.

01:00:53.231 --> 01:00:55.110
Robbie, Dwight, Vic,

01:00:55.650 --> 01:00:56.490
you know what I'm saying?

01:00:56.931 --> 01:00:59.072
Telling us what kind of person they are.

01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:00.862
how they would come in,

01:01:00.902 --> 01:01:01.682
things they would do,

01:01:01.762 --> 01:01:02.963
how they would be able to recruit.

01:01:03.465 --> 01:01:04.965
And he's been true to who he

01:01:05.186 --> 01:01:06.306
is and true to his word.

01:01:06.367 --> 01:01:07.768
It's like he's been big on

01:01:07.989 --> 01:01:09.489
the relationship aspect of it.

01:01:10.110 --> 01:01:13.313
And when he came in, like Brian said,

01:01:13.353 --> 01:01:14.875
he was real careful with

01:01:14.954 --> 01:01:19.079
the evaluations of kids and

01:01:19.139 --> 01:01:22.521
families and positions, you know,

01:01:22.641 --> 01:01:22.922
like that.

01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:25.139
don't have that because

01:01:25.179 --> 01:01:26.400
we've had a lot of turnover

01:01:26.420 --> 01:01:27.539
because we had to get some

01:01:27.900 --> 01:01:29.121
we had to raise that floor

01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:29.940
you know what I'm saying

01:01:30.380 --> 01:01:31.402
had to raise the floor and

01:01:31.461 --> 01:01:33.682
raise the ceiling so you

01:01:33.722 --> 01:01:35.163
don't have as much turnover

01:01:35.222 --> 01:01:37.664
as we had with no bad press

01:01:38.065 --> 01:01:39.204
unless somebody's doing

01:01:39.244 --> 01:01:41.146
something right he's the

01:01:41.166 --> 01:01:42.306
head man you know what I'm

01:01:42.326 --> 01:01:43.586
saying I didn't think he

01:01:43.626 --> 01:01:44.427
would come in and be a

01:01:44.467 --> 01:01:45.447
flash in the pan type

01:01:45.487 --> 01:01:46.987
person oh he came in and he

01:01:47.007 --> 01:01:47.867
had this great recruiting

01:01:47.887 --> 01:01:48.929
class and then that's it

01:01:49.068 --> 01:01:51.909
you know what I'm saying I want to win

01:01:52.371 --> 01:01:54.297
But I'd much rather see this

01:01:54.416 --> 01:01:56.061
constant growth that he's doing.

01:01:56.561 --> 01:01:56.822
You know,

01:01:56.882 --> 01:01:58.467
it just seems to be building and

01:01:58.507 --> 01:01:59.550
building and getting better

01:01:59.570 --> 01:02:00.190
and getting better.

01:02:00.210 --> 01:02:00.251
So...

01:02:02.235 --> 01:02:03.257
I've been excited, man.

01:02:03.277 --> 01:02:05.677
I keep going back to the shirt they had.

01:02:06.177 --> 01:02:07.338
That was what was the shirt?

01:02:07.378 --> 01:02:09.360
It was three, seven.

01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:10.219
Yeah.

01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:11.701
Question mark.

01:02:11.740 --> 01:02:13.161
Like I want one of those shirts.

01:02:13.581 --> 01:02:15.081
I want one of them shirts.

01:02:15.902 --> 01:02:16.643
Yeah.

01:02:17.023 --> 01:02:19.764
That kind of defines what I

01:02:19.804 --> 01:02:21.184
think about how he's came

01:02:21.244 --> 01:02:22.965
in and what he's been able to do.

01:02:23.045 --> 01:02:25.387
So it's been it's been a fun

01:02:25.447 --> 01:02:25.947
ride to watch.

01:02:26.693 --> 01:02:28.235
I think that's mentality.

01:02:28.556 --> 01:02:29.356
And I think what he was

01:02:29.396 --> 01:02:30.539
talking about there with us

01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:31.440
is I want to get to know

01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:32.360
what makes you tick,

01:02:32.422 --> 01:02:33.503
what makes you work hard,

01:02:33.583 --> 01:02:34.804
what makes you be the best,

01:02:34.824 --> 01:02:35.746
what makes you learn.

01:02:35.766 --> 01:02:35.827
And

01:02:37.733 --> 01:02:38.135
And, Tally,

01:02:38.175 --> 01:02:39.295
you mentioned something because

01:02:39.436 --> 01:02:40.918
you don't want to flash in the pan.

01:02:41.378 --> 01:02:43.920
Because we, fortunately,

01:02:44.380 --> 01:02:45.722
for pretty much the first

01:02:45.722 --> 01:02:47.043
25 years of our fandom,

01:02:47.324 --> 01:02:47.885
we didn't know what the

01:02:47.905 --> 01:02:49.065
hell a bad season was.

01:02:49.347 --> 01:02:50.728
Bad season was winning eight

01:02:50.748 --> 01:02:51.989
or nine games.

01:02:52.811 --> 01:02:53.070
It was 10, 11.

01:02:53.871 --> 01:02:55.914
We're going to go to championship games.

01:02:55.954 --> 01:02:56.974
We're going to win championships.

01:02:56.994 --> 01:02:58.215
We're going to go to big bowl games.

01:02:58.817 --> 01:03:02.121
So when you say flash in the pan, Sheldon,

01:03:02.242 --> 01:03:03.623
y'all know he's our numbers guy.

01:03:04.224 --> 01:03:05.726
He popped up something last

01:03:05.766 --> 01:03:07.409
year talking about year two

01:03:07.690 --> 01:03:08.751
versus year one.

01:03:09.552 --> 01:03:11.375
And I think it resonates a little bit.

01:03:11.394 --> 01:03:12.396
You kind of correlate

01:03:12.635 --> 01:03:13.336
probably building those

01:03:13.376 --> 01:03:15.000
relationships and then what

01:03:15.019 --> 01:03:15.740
you see right here.

01:03:17.545 --> 01:03:19.166
What I found was that year

01:03:19.327 --> 01:03:20.126
one for a head coach,

01:03:20.186 --> 01:03:21.007
a new head coach in Power

01:03:21.027 --> 01:03:22.347
Five was not really

01:03:22.387 --> 01:03:23.527
predictive of how well

01:03:23.568 --> 01:03:24.728
their hire was going to turn out.

01:03:25.088 --> 01:03:27.048
But year two was extremely predictive.

01:03:27.409 --> 01:03:29.170
So when we talk about new

01:03:29.230 --> 01:03:30.590
hires and rebuilding and

01:03:30.909 --> 01:03:32.271
how well they do in year one, year two,

01:03:32.610 --> 01:03:33.831
you look at Mike Elko at

01:03:33.891 --> 01:03:35.652
Duke or Deion Sanders at Colorado,

01:03:36.072 --> 01:03:37.231
really it's year two that's

01:03:37.251 --> 01:03:38.092
kind of like the make or break.

01:03:38.172 --> 01:03:39.432
If you're not successful in year two,

01:03:39.853 --> 01:03:41.253
it's not going to work out.

01:03:41.353 --> 01:03:42.693
You need to be at least

01:03:42.713 --> 01:03:43.434
steadily improving.

01:03:43.793 --> 01:03:44.614
And I think year three is

01:03:44.653 --> 01:03:45.715
where most coaches would say,

01:03:46.835 --> 01:03:47.655
That's where you kind of

01:03:47.715 --> 01:03:48.597
need to get the ball rolling.

01:03:48.898 --> 01:03:49.739
And I think Tech has a

01:03:49.778 --> 01:03:50.900
really prime opportunity to

01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.143
do that this next season.

01:03:55.070 --> 01:03:57.092
So I love that when he brought that up,

01:03:57.152 --> 01:03:58.273
that he brought the data up

01:03:58.393 --> 01:04:00.054
about don't look at year one.

01:04:00.114 --> 01:04:01.594
Because year one is so much

01:04:01.673 --> 01:04:03.155
of who the other guy had,

01:04:03.554 --> 01:04:05.356
what was there already.

01:04:05.835 --> 01:04:07.597
And so many people can take what's there.

01:04:08.338 --> 01:04:12.019
And that's the whole make a

01:04:12.059 --> 01:04:12.880
meal out of chicken shit,

01:04:12.900 --> 01:04:13.380
something like that.

01:04:13.420 --> 01:04:14.860
I know I'm screwing up that phrase.

01:04:15.561 --> 01:04:17.041
Chicken salad out of chicken shit.

01:04:17.061 --> 01:04:18.222
Chicken salad out of chicken shit.

01:04:18.902 --> 01:04:19.983
A lot of people can do that.

01:04:20.184 --> 01:04:21.945
It's that constant, like you say, Tally,

01:04:22.025 --> 01:04:23.385
the growth, the building,

01:04:23.945 --> 01:04:25.746
because that's what is sustainable.

01:04:26.086 --> 01:04:27.907
That is what Mike Beamer was.

01:04:29.028 --> 01:04:32.411
Yeah, I got to give Sheldon a shout out,

01:04:32.431 --> 01:04:32.690
man.

01:04:32.751 --> 01:04:34.431
I love that kid, man.

01:04:35.092 --> 01:04:36.713
I go back sometimes and look

01:04:36.753 --> 01:04:37.534
at some of his stuff

01:04:37.793 --> 01:04:38.594
because sometimes he gets

01:04:38.614 --> 01:04:40.795
to talking and he's too smart.

01:04:41.036 --> 01:04:42.637
He's way smarter than I am,

01:04:42.976 --> 01:04:43.938
so I don't pay attention

01:04:43.978 --> 01:04:44.657
when he's saying it.

01:04:45.157 --> 01:04:46.278
I just know that it's probably...

01:04:46.838 --> 01:04:47.099
right?

01:04:47.358 --> 01:04:47.958
You know what I mean?

01:04:48.340 --> 01:04:49.559
But I'll go back and I'll

01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:50.739
rewatch something months

01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.360
later or like I did today.

01:04:52.780 --> 01:04:54.561
I'll go back and I'll look at some clips.

01:04:54.822 --> 01:04:56.121
Him and Pete, both of them too.

01:04:56.561 --> 01:04:57.463
I'll go back and watch

01:04:57.483 --> 01:04:58.943
something they said from

01:04:58.983 --> 01:05:00.684
like a year ago and I'm like, damn,

01:05:00.704 --> 01:05:01.204
they was right.

01:05:01.824 --> 01:05:02.403
You know what I'm saying?

01:05:02.423 --> 01:05:03.344
They was on the right path.

01:05:03.364 --> 01:05:04.364
Sheldon does that a lot.

01:05:05.565 --> 01:05:07.065
If y'all are like me and you

01:05:07.106 --> 01:05:08.826
ain't paying attention when Sheldon talks,

01:05:10.427 --> 01:05:11.827
get in the corner and go

01:05:11.887 --> 01:05:12.706
listen to some of his

01:05:12.786 --> 01:05:14.068
analytics when he's spitting them.

01:05:14.735 --> 01:05:16.916
Because the boy is on point

01:05:16.996 --> 01:05:17.817
a lot of times.

01:05:17.836 --> 01:05:17.817
100%.

01:05:20.617 --> 01:05:20.818
Yep.

01:05:20.998 --> 01:05:24.320
And I'm going to lead into the next.

01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:27.240
This is another Shelton because we talked.

01:05:27.420 --> 01:05:28.342
And I can't remember this

01:05:28.402 --> 01:05:29.501
when this one was, Brian.

01:05:29.541 --> 01:05:31.182
I think this was during March.

01:05:34.021 --> 01:05:38.463
This was... Yeah,

01:05:38.523 --> 01:05:39.983
this was leading up to the spring game.

01:05:40.204 --> 01:05:41.184
Leading to the spring game,

01:05:41.204 --> 01:05:42.164
so we've already kind of

01:05:42.204 --> 01:05:44.625
got everybody locked in of

01:05:44.664 --> 01:05:46.065
who's going to be here for next year.

01:05:46.585 --> 01:05:47.625
And Sheldon wanted to focus

01:05:47.664 --> 01:05:49.585
on the defensive line and some numbers.

01:05:51.306 --> 01:05:52.686
Anything on the defensive ends?

01:05:54.806 --> 01:05:55.487
Not really, honestly.

01:05:55.507 --> 01:05:57.047
I mean, I like the continuity there.

01:05:58.728 --> 01:05:59.668
I think I'm trying to

01:05:59.728 --> 01:06:00.528
refresh my brain a little bit.

01:06:00.548 --> 01:06:00.688
I mean,

01:06:00.708 --> 01:06:01.668
you got most of the guys returning.

01:06:01.688 --> 01:06:01.929
I think...

01:06:03.253 --> 01:06:04.554
It'll be a pretty solid unit.

01:06:04.594 --> 01:06:06.916
I know that,

01:06:06.976 --> 01:06:08.097
I believe it was Bill Connolly

01:06:08.117 --> 01:06:10.400
who said that returning

01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.862
production on the defensive

01:06:11.902 --> 01:06:12.742
line is actually more

01:06:12.782 --> 01:06:14.164
important than returning

01:06:14.184 --> 01:06:15.123
production to other positions.

01:06:15.704 --> 01:06:17.786
So if you have continuity there, I mean,

01:06:18.347 --> 01:06:19.387
you're really set there.

01:06:19.447 --> 01:06:21.190
So I think the amount of

01:06:21.230 --> 01:06:21.989
returning production that

01:06:22.010 --> 01:06:22.990
tech has there is going to

01:06:23.010 --> 01:06:23.512
bode pretty well.

01:06:23.532 --> 01:06:26.114
So I'm excited to see how it turns out.

01:06:29.451 --> 01:06:31.612
And I mean – and I know

01:06:31.652 --> 01:06:32.871
Shelton was looking at

01:06:33.333 --> 01:06:34.293
people's information.

01:06:34.333 --> 01:06:36.233
He was looking at APR, Fuga, Cole.

01:06:37.753 --> 01:06:38.235
Knowing him,

01:06:38.255 --> 01:06:40.436
he probably somehow wrangled

01:06:40.476 --> 01:06:41.876
his way into getting Kamari

01:06:41.916 --> 01:06:43.356
Copeland's information in there.

01:06:44.516 --> 01:06:46.938
But that defensive line,

01:06:48.579 --> 01:06:50.159
it's not a rebuild.

01:06:51.500 --> 01:06:52.920
I look at that interior, y'all.

01:06:53.081 --> 01:06:54.260
That interior isn't rebuilt.

01:06:54.961 --> 01:06:57.422
That interior is just – it's basically –

01:06:58.458 --> 01:07:00.021
me it's upgraded and I love

01:07:00.041 --> 01:07:00.961
the guys that left like

01:07:01.001 --> 01:07:02.523
kendrickson pollard but I

01:07:02.563 --> 01:07:04.465
think it's upgraded yeah I

01:07:04.505 --> 01:07:05.987
mean it so I think it's two

01:07:06.047 --> 01:07:08.510
things I think the the

01:07:08.610 --> 01:07:10.373
overall level has come up

01:07:10.452 --> 01:07:11.673
just a little bit but I

01:07:11.733 --> 01:07:13.777
think depth is the biggest

01:07:13.797 --> 01:07:14.597
thing I mean you're talking

01:07:14.637 --> 01:07:15.559
about potentially

01:07:17.277 --> 01:07:19.599
Fuga being the fourth or

01:07:19.679 --> 01:07:22.242
fifth guy in this crew now,

01:07:23.041 --> 01:07:23.842
where he kind of started

01:07:23.882 --> 01:07:26.164
last season as kind of that two or three,

01:07:26.344 --> 01:07:26.585
right?

01:07:28.226 --> 01:07:29.268
So things have kind of

01:07:29.307 --> 01:07:30.228
flipped a little bit,

01:07:31.630 --> 01:07:33.150
and the depth has gotten better.

01:07:33.190 --> 01:07:34.813
I think the ceiling has gotten higher,

01:07:35.612 --> 01:07:36.514
and I think those are two

01:07:36.554 --> 01:07:37.514
really important things

01:07:37.534 --> 01:07:39.697
that you want to see at a defensive line.

01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:43.320
Competition.

01:07:43.340 --> 01:07:43.880
Competition.

01:07:45.166 --> 01:07:47.389
You just keep seeing competition.

01:07:48.090 --> 01:07:48.851
You know what I'm saying?

01:07:48.911 --> 01:07:51.072
Like it's always been, you know,

01:07:51.253 --> 01:07:53.974
one guy or man,

01:07:53.994 --> 01:07:55.896
I hope I don't want nobody to go down.

01:07:55.956 --> 01:07:56.938
But man, if you go down,

01:07:56.958 --> 01:07:57.518
I don't know what we're

01:07:57.538 --> 01:07:59.139
going to do when you got

01:07:59.360 --> 01:08:00.840
four and five guys and two

01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:03.704
and three guys that can not

01:08:03.804 --> 01:08:05.065
have much of a drop off.

01:08:05.726 --> 01:08:07.146
Then you start building a roster.

01:08:07.817 --> 01:08:09.016
You know what I'm saying?

01:08:10.518 --> 01:08:11.978
I started seeing somebody come out with,

01:08:12.057 --> 01:08:12.157
oh,

01:08:12.177 --> 01:08:13.759
Virginia Tech has this many blue chips

01:08:13.798 --> 01:08:14.059
and stuff.

01:08:14.099 --> 01:08:14.298
I said,

01:08:14.318 --> 01:08:15.498
I'm not even looking at it yet

01:08:15.518 --> 01:08:16.578
because I don't even want

01:08:16.599 --> 01:08:17.640
to get that excited.

01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:19.000
I can't remember who released that.

01:08:21.301 --> 01:08:22.381
I'm saying to think about

01:08:22.440 --> 01:08:23.740
where we were in 2019, 2020.

01:08:23.740 --> 01:08:27.822
You know what I'm saying?

01:08:28.903 --> 01:08:31.462
To now, it's amazing, man.

01:08:31.844 --> 01:08:32.724
It's amazing.

01:08:32.823 --> 01:08:34.503
It's great to watch.

01:08:34.564 --> 01:08:36.744
I'm so excited for football season.

01:08:37.676 --> 01:08:38.037
By the way,

01:08:38.056 --> 01:08:39.078
you know who else is excited

01:08:39.097 --> 01:08:40.158
about this defensive line?

01:08:40.198 --> 01:08:40.498
J.C.

01:08:40.538 --> 01:08:40.859
Price.

01:08:41.578 --> 01:08:42.939
Yeah, he should be.

01:08:44.220 --> 01:08:44.921
He should be.

01:08:46.922 --> 01:08:47.403
J.C.

01:08:47.462 --> 01:08:48.144
probably is.

01:08:49.064 --> 01:08:50.244
He probably drunk right now,

01:08:51.085 --> 01:08:52.126
eating some chicken wings,

01:08:53.087 --> 01:08:53.806
thinking about what's going

01:08:53.827 --> 01:08:55.007
to happen during football season.

01:08:55.347 --> 01:08:57.949
Just watching tape and seeing, man,

01:08:57.989 --> 01:08:59.530
I got all this to eat with this year.

01:08:59.570 --> 01:09:00.591
I got all these studs.

01:09:01.231 --> 01:09:02.032
Let's see what J.C.

01:09:02.072 --> 01:09:03.733
did have to say back in the

01:09:03.773 --> 01:09:04.873
winter when we talked to him.

01:09:07.211 --> 01:09:08.310
There was definitely a need

01:09:08.331 --> 01:09:09.351
to go out and get some guys

01:09:09.372 --> 01:09:10.372
who played a lot of ball.

01:09:10.692 --> 01:09:12.351
And how blessed are we to

01:09:12.372 --> 01:09:13.532
get an ES Peoples, man?

01:09:13.591 --> 01:09:15.533
I mean, you talk about a guy who can go.

01:09:16.172 --> 01:09:20.073
Proving player in the ACC, all-conference.

01:09:20.154 --> 01:09:22.033
I mean, golly, man,

01:09:22.054 --> 01:09:23.675
I pinched myself every day.

01:09:23.954 --> 01:09:24.715
I couldn't wait to get him

01:09:24.774 --> 01:09:25.935
on campus and lock him in.

01:09:26.015 --> 01:09:27.676
I just was pinching myself every day.

01:09:27.695 --> 01:09:28.796
You know,

01:09:28.836 --> 01:09:30.036
Chita did a great job with the

01:09:30.076 --> 01:09:31.475
prior leadership with the family,

01:09:31.555 --> 01:09:33.077
and he helped recruit him

01:09:33.096 --> 01:09:34.077
to Duke to begin with.

01:09:35.078 --> 01:09:35.960
And, you know,

01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:36.961
and there was pressure on

01:09:37.001 --> 01:09:37.961
him to return to Duke.

01:09:38.942 --> 01:09:41.003
And, you know, he stuck to his word.

01:09:41.064 --> 01:09:41.384
And, man,

01:09:41.423 --> 01:09:44.185
he's on campus right now lighting it up.

01:09:44.265 --> 01:09:45.987
You know, Kelvin Gillian,

01:09:46.006 --> 01:09:47.408
the Highland Springs guy.

01:09:47.427 --> 01:09:48.509
You know,

01:09:49.109 --> 01:09:50.350
I couldn't actually recruit him

01:09:50.369 --> 01:09:51.331
when he came out because I

01:09:51.350 --> 01:09:51.990
was at Marshall.

01:09:52.030 --> 01:09:52.931
So he was a little bit out

01:09:52.971 --> 01:09:54.672
of my range when I was at Marshall.

01:09:54.693 --> 01:09:56.454
But a little disappointed he

01:09:56.494 --> 01:09:57.675
didn't go to Tech to begin with.

01:09:57.775 --> 01:09:59.095
But he decided to go to Oklahoma.

01:09:59.197 --> 01:10:00.997
And I think it's going to be

01:10:01.377 --> 01:10:02.399
a really good deal for him.

01:10:06.536 --> 01:10:07.235
Man's excited.

01:10:08.737 --> 01:10:09.457
He's pumped, man.

01:10:09.577 --> 01:10:10.077
He's pumped.

01:10:10.096 --> 01:10:10.637
He's excited.

01:10:10.797 --> 01:10:11.698
And he should be.

01:10:11.877 --> 01:10:12.797
He should be excited.

01:10:12.818 --> 01:10:14.859
I mean, like he said,

01:10:14.899 --> 01:10:15.920
you listen to what he's saying.

01:10:15.939 --> 01:10:17.399
Like, he was at Marshall.

01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:18.460
No disrespect to Marshall.

01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:19.980
I mean, they whipped their ass last year.

01:10:20.001 --> 01:10:20.921
But, you know,

01:10:20.961 --> 01:10:22.002
he couldn't recruit certain

01:10:22.021 --> 01:10:23.742
types of players, you know,

01:10:23.782 --> 01:10:24.682
when he was at Marshall.

01:10:24.762 --> 01:10:26.143
And even when he got here, like,

01:10:26.863 --> 01:10:28.823
he had to raise it to be able to go, okay,

01:10:28.863 --> 01:10:29.965
now I want you.

01:10:30.225 --> 01:10:31.204
Now I want you.

01:10:31.484 --> 01:10:32.985
I can put these people together.

01:10:33.386 --> 01:10:34.065
You know what I'm saying?

01:10:34.086 --> 01:10:35.806
To go get a Curtis Perry.

01:10:36.717 --> 01:10:36.978
Mm-hmm.

01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:39.079
It'll get, you know, Aeneas Peoples,

01:10:39.939 --> 01:10:41.801
you know, to pair them with APR.

01:10:41.902 --> 01:10:44.064
Like, some high-level names right there.

01:10:44.543 --> 01:10:45.083
Yeah, right.

01:10:45.184 --> 01:10:46.005
You know what I'm saying?

01:10:46.524 --> 01:10:48.646
So now, hell,

01:10:49.948 --> 01:10:51.628
from what he's already been doing,

01:10:51.769 --> 01:10:53.130
what he's built with, you know,

01:10:53.770 --> 01:10:54.711
some of the guys that he's

01:10:54.751 --> 01:10:56.091
worked with in the past, it's like,

01:10:56.512 --> 01:10:57.894
what is he going to do with these guys?

01:10:58.493 --> 01:10:59.435
You know what I'm saying?

01:11:01.296 --> 01:11:02.096
Pretty much you're thinking,

01:11:02.136 --> 01:11:03.457
how high in the draft can we get?

01:11:04.246 --> 01:11:05.966
That's what you want out of

01:11:06.006 --> 01:11:06.908
some of the names that you

01:11:06.948 --> 01:11:07.948
got on the defensive line.

01:11:07.988 --> 01:11:08.608
You know what I mean?

01:11:09.128 --> 01:11:09.429
Oh, yeah.

01:11:10.408 --> 01:11:11.409
And, I mean, all these guys,

01:11:11.470 --> 01:11:12.451
I think the common thread

01:11:12.490 --> 01:11:14.351
across of it is these guys

01:11:14.391 --> 01:11:15.072
are disruptive.

01:11:15.712 --> 01:11:17.132
They disrupt the lanes.

01:11:17.172 --> 01:11:18.814
They disrupt the rush lanes.

01:11:18.833 --> 01:11:19.994
They get after the passer.

01:11:20.835 --> 01:11:21.716
I would not want to be a

01:11:21.775 --> 01:11:24.516
quarterback in the ACC this year.

01:11:26.759 --> 01:11:27.479
Because there's going to be

01:11:27.599 --> 01:11:28.779
Hokies coming at you from

01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:30.900
every part of that defensive line.

01:11:33.942 --> 01:11:35.823
Yeah, it's very true.

01:11:36.886 --> 01:11:37.126
Now,

01:11:37.506 --> 01:11:38.608
I'm going to flip it just a little

01:11:38.648 --> 01:11:39.448
different with the next

01:11:39.588 --> 01:11:40.631
little conversation here,

01:11:40.671 --> 01:11:42.313
because just about a month ago,

01:11:42.353 --> 01:11:43.453
we got to talk for Darius

01:11:43.514 --> 01:11:45.317
Payne and he talked about his journey.

01:11:46.291 --> 01:11:48.573
you know, defensive lineman.

01:11:49.012 --> 01:11:50.194
And he talked about his

01:11:50.253 --> 01:11:51.755
experience in JUCO.

01:11:51.956 --> 01:11:53.356
And for y'all who didn't see it,

01:11:54.016 --> 01:11:55.217
he was a pleasure to talk with,

01:11:55.358 --> 01:11:56.378
an absolute pleasure to

01:11:56.418 --> 01:11:57.220
talk with that night.

01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:00.282
You know, sign with the Texans.

01:12:00.301 --> 01:12:01.323
He'll be down there working,

01:12:01.403 --> 01:12:02.564
hopefully make some happen.

01:12:02.623 --> 01:12:04.145
But just to hear his journey

01:12:04.225 --> 01:12:06.846
right here about the JUCO

01:12:07.108 --> 01:12:08.287
and what it did for him.

01:12:08.307 --> 01:12:10.710
How do you feel that going

01:12:10.750 --> 01:12:12.391
to a JUCO helped with your

01:12:12.452 --> 01:12:14.012
development coming out of high school?

01:12:15.291 --> 01:12:16.832
I feel like Juco really

01:12:16.872 --> 01:12:18.934
helped me fundamental-wise.

01:12:19.014 --> 01:12:20.253
Like, Coach Duda,

01:12:20.293 --> 01:12:22.956
he's a very well-known

01:12:22.996 --> 01:12:24.317
coach in the Juco world and

01:12:24.516 --> 01:12:26.158
in the football world in general.

01:12:26.198 --> 01:12:26.337
Like,

01:12:26.438 --> 01:12:28.420
if I go somewhere and I say I was at

01:12:28.460 --> 01:12:30.320
Lackawanna under Coach Duda, they say,

01:12:30.761 --> 01:12:31.801
yeah, we know who that is.

01:12:31.981 --> 01:12:33.563
And him being the D-line

01:12:33.622 --> 01:12:34.863
coach and the head coach,

01:12:35.363 --> 01:12:36.604
he started at ground one

01:12:36.685 --> 01:12:38.386
and was really building it up.

01:12:38.726 --> 01:12:41.408
And we didn't have what...

01:12:43.122 --> 01:12:44.503
probably any division have.

01:12:44.543 --> 01:12:48.266
Like we, we only let it, I'll be honest,

01:12:48.306 --> 01:12:50.247
but the stuff we did was,

01:12:50.868 --> 01:12:54.029
it was very good that I

01:12:54.069 --> 01:12:55.211
believe it helped me a lot.

01:13:00.274 --> 01:13:03.476
So not always do you have to

01:13:03.537 --> 01:13:05.717
be the highest product to come out,

01:13:06.038 --> 01:13:07.859
go somewhere, develop yourself.

01:13:09.875 --> 01:13:12.095
And that's what it takes sometimes.

01:13:12.136 --> 01:13:13.355
And I think right now with

01:13:13.416 --> 01:13:14.235
what we've got going on

01:13:14.275 --> 01:13:16.497
with the staff is they –

01:13:16.497 --> 01:13:19.637
right now there's no stone unturned.

01:13:19.677 --> 01:13:22.639
They went to two HBCUs, found guys,

01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:23.899
and brought them on.

01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:25.180
They popped.

01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:27.300
They went and found Division I guys.

01:13:27.340 --> 01:13:27.841
They popped.

01:13:27.860 --> 01:13:30.240
They went to CUSA and found it.

01:13:30.782 --> 01:13:32.442
They went to basically a guy

01:13:32.481 --> 01:13:33.381
who went through a JUCO and

01:13:33.402 --> 01:13:34.023
they found it.

01:13:35.422 --> 01:13:35.603
Yep.

01:13:36.606 --> 01:13:38.266
And I think that's, that's the big thing.

01:13:38.407 --> 01:13:39.127
And, you know, we,

01:13:39.167 --> 01:13:40.387
we've always talked about

01:13:40.408 --> 01:13:42.387
the relationship piece,

01:13:42.408 --> 01:13:43.667
but that that's where those

01:13:43.729 --> 01:13:45.309
things start because, you know,

01:13:45.868 --> 01:13:47.969
the relationship with pride

01:13:48.009 --> 01:13:49.569
and Lackawanna, right.

01:13:50.390 --> 01:13:52.869
Um, there's, there's a trust there.

01:13:52.909 --> 01:13:54.150
There was a relationship there,

01:13:55.030 --> 01:13:57.270
but also pride having a

01:13:57.310 --> 01:13:58.931
relationship with pain when

01:13:58.971 --> 01:14:00.631
he was first getting

01:14:00.692 --> 01:14:03.813
recruited before he went to Nebraska and,

01:14:03.953 --> 01:14:04.993
you know, being able to,

01:14:07.487 --> 01:14:09.109
use that relationship to

01:14:09.470 --> 01:14:11.032
create a situation that was

01:14:11.252 --> 01:14:14.577
good for Fildarius and good

01:14:14.596 --> 01:14:15.519
for the Hokies, right?

01:14:15.639 --> 01:14:17.180
So, you know,

01:14:17.220 --> 01:14:19.184
when when Fildarius was talking about,

01:14:19.203 --> 01:14:21.206
you know, committing, he was he was like,

01:14:21.246 --> 01:14:21.426
Yeah,

01:14:21.466 --> 01:14:22.849
it didn't take me a whole lot to commit.

01:14:22.908 --> 01:14:23.930
I knew what pride was about.

01:14:24.810 --> 01:14:26.310
that relationship was already there.

01:14:26.411 --> 01:14:28.511
So when we talk about going

01:14:28.532 --> 01:14:29.212
to all these different

01:14:29.231 --> 01:14:30.632
corners and turning those stones,

01:14:30.693 --> 01:14:31.592
he's turning those stones,

01:14:31.632 --> 01:14:32.634
and he has the ability to

01:14:32.673 --> 01:14:33.533
do that because of that

01:14:33.594 --> 01:14:34.555
relationship building,

01:14:34.975 --> 01:14:35.655
whether it's with the

01:14:35.716 --> 01:14:36.735
coaching staff there,

01:14:36.796 --> 01:14:37.877
whether it's with players

01:14:37.917 --> 01:14:40.097
that he had recruited previously.

01:14:41.899 --> 01:14:43.019
Those relationships matter,

01:14:43.059 --> 01:14:44.380
and those relationships are paying off.

01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:45.940
And a school like Virginia

01:14:45.980 --> 01:14:47.381
Tech that is competitive in

01:14:47.461 --> 01:14:48.582
NIL but is never going to

01:14:48.622 --> 01:14:51.143
be the best of the best in NIL,

01:14:51.684 --> 01:14:53.363
you've got to have those relationships.

01:14:53.784 --> 01:14:54.185
Damn right.

01:14:54.898 --> 01:14:55.679
Yeah, definitely.

01:14:56.059 --> 01:14:56.699
And, you know, man,

01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:58.140
it's always something about, like,

01:14:58.180 --> 01:14:59.962
a Juco kid that's just a

01:15:00.002 --> 01:15:01.884
little bit different, like, bite to him.

01:15:02.444 --> 01:15:03.886
Y'all remember, who was it?

01:15:03.905 --> 01:15:04.386
What's his name?

01:15:04.907 --> 01:15:05.747
Deshaun Crawford?

01:15:06.167 --> 01:15:07.068
Was that his name?

01:15:07.488 --> 01:15:07.729
Yeah.

01:15:08.009 --> 01:15:09.409
Yeah, yeah, Crawford.

01:15:09.449 --> 01:15:10.390
Yeah, probably Mississippi.

01:15:10.490 --> 01:15:11.032
Yeah,

01:15:11.072 --> 01:15:14.113
so even when he came to Virginia Tech,

01:15:14.134 --> 01:15:16.974
I ain't saying, like, his numbers was –

01:15:16.974 --> 01:15:18.194
or he just lit it up so much,

01:15:18.213 --> 01:15:19.034
but he just had a little

01:15:19.055 --> 01:15:20.234
bit different oomph to him.

01:15:20.255 --> 01:15:20.854
You know what I'm saying?

01:15:21.074 --> 01:15:21.854
If you'll watch some of the

01:15:21.895 --> 01:15:24.655
games that he played, like them Juco kids,

01:15:24.695 --> 01:15:24.916
man,

01:15:24.935 --> 01:15:26.136
they just got a little bit of a chip

01:15:26.195 --> 01:15:27.395
on the shoulder a lot of times.

01:15:27.456 --> 01:15:29.917
So don't discount him.

01:15:30.277 --> 01:15:30.896
You know what I mean?

01:15:31.296 --> 01:15:32.157
Don't discount him at all.

01:15:32.216 --> 01:15:33.938
Even like Jeremy Webb, you know,

01:15:33.978 --> 01:15:34.578
even though we didn't get

01:15:34.618 --> 01:15:36.297
to see what he had with us

01:15:36.318 --> 01:15:37.979
because he had injuries, but, you know,

01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:41.238
he got the – when he went to Kansas,

01:15:41.298 --> 01:15:41.458
right?

01:15:41.479 --> 01:15:42.260
He looked good.

01:15:42.539 --> 01:15:43.899
Yeah, he looked good, so –

01:15:44.742 --> 01:15:45.422
Hey, Gerard Evans.

01:15:46.024 --> 01:15:46.685
Gerard Evans.

01:15:47.726 --> 01:15:50.711
Y'all know one that's never talked about,

01:15:50.751 --> 01:15:52.012
but you always got to remember it?

01:15:53.014 --> 01:15:53.515
Corey Moore.

01:15:54.092 --> 01:15:54.292
Yep.

01:15:54.733 --> 01:15:55.793
Corey Moore's a Juco guy.

01:15:55.833 --> 01:15:56.554
He played at one of the

01:15:56.573 --> 01:15:57.713
Jucos in Tennessee.

01:15:58.194 --> 01:15:58.454
Yep,

01:15:58.595 --> 01:16:02.076
so did I. All he did 25 years ago was

01:16:02.115 --> 01:16:02.876
bring every single

01:16:02.916 --> 01:16:04.176
defensive player of the

01:16:04.197 --> 01:16:05.497
year hardware home.

01:16:06.117 --> 01:16:06.818
So it was crazy.

01:16:07.217 --> 01:16:08.778
So we talk about Jucos and

01:16:08.818 --> 01:16:09.458
how they get there,

01:16:09.519 --> 01:16:11.198
and Tally's talking about the dogs.

01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:12.500
Don't leave it unturned.

01:16:12.979 --> 01:16:14.500
They didn't leave one unturned.

01:16:15.240 --> 01:16:17.301
Virginia Beach kid goes out to Iowa,

01:16:17.582 --> 01:16:18.242
and back in our

01:16:18.282 --> 01:16:19.681
conversation on Matej Sis

01:16:19.721 --> 01:16:21.203
talking about Kamar Copeland.

01:16:22.485 --> 01:16:22.865
question.

01:16:22.886 --> 01:16:24.386
I think a lot of people will

01:16:24.447 --> 01:16:25.907
jump and say Kamari

01:16:25.926 --> 01:16:27.408
Copeland just because he

01:16:27.448 --> 01:16:30.207
played Iowa Western Community College.

01:16:31.248 --> 01:16:31.868
You look at him,

01:16:31.988 --> 01:16:33.109
I don't know if you guys

01:16:33.149 --> 01:16:34.569
have seen those videos.

01:16:35.010 --> 01:16:36.109
Oh, I have.

01:16:37.190 --> 01:16:37.650
He is...

01:16:38.511 --> 01:16:39.690
unbelievable like he's

01:16:39.850 --> 01:16:41.332
absolutely unbelievable

01:16:41.851 --> 01:16:43.112
he's he's got that mean

01:16:43.152 --> 01:16:44.332
streak in him but he's also

01:16:44.351 --> 01:16:45.752
the the kindest guy you'll

01:16:45.792 --> 01:16:47.592
ever meet like he loves

01:16:47.632 --> 01:16:49.474
virginia tech um that guy

01:16:49.514 --> 01:16:51.673
is a mauler and super

01:16:51.713 --> 01:16:52.974
strong I think you know

01:16:53.014 --> 01:16:54.074
he'll fit in in the two

01:16:54.095 --> 01:16:55.954
deep at the very least I

01:16:55.975 --> 01:16:56.935
think he could play right

01:16:56.975 --> 01:17:02.136
away so again there it is

01:17:02.275 --> 01:17:04.817
no stone left unturned and

01:17:05.698 --> 01:17:06.719
Is that kind of pivotal

01:17:06.738 --> 01:17:07.880
where we're going to show

01:17:08.020 --> 01:17:11.060
next is when this off

01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:14.720
season came in Pollard and

01:17:14.801 --> 01:17:16.841
Kendrick's in pain, we're gone.

01:17:17.480 --> 01:17:18.442
We sat here, man.

01:17:18.481 --> 01:17:20.181
Like what are we going to do?

01:17:20.202 --> 01:17:21.942
What are we going to do in defense?

01:17:22.502 --> 01:17:23.403
I like Josh Fuga.

01:17:23.443 --> 01:17:25.962
He's a solid player and it

01:17:26.002 --> 01:17:27.222
doesn't look like anybody's

01:17:27.302 --> 01:17:28.443
behind him ready.

01:17:28.663 --> 01:17:28.944
Right.

01:17:29.363 --> 01:17:30.043
What do we do?

01:17:30.764 --> 01:17:30.904
Well,

01:17:31.686 --> 01:17:34.047
y'all we talk with again, a year ago,

01:17:34.087 --> 01:17:35.328
we talked with coach pry

01:17:36.109 --> 01:17:36.868
and he addressed some

01:17:36.908 --> 01:17:38.390
weaknesses and he addressed,

01:17:39.211 --> 01:17:39.770
what do they do?

01:17:40.430 --> 01:17:41.572
What does he talk about when

01:17:41.591 --> 01:17:42.471
he's talking about that?

01:17:44.052 --> 01:17:45.292
And being your first year,

01:17:45.313 --> 01:17:47.173
then it's been your second year.

01:17:47.194 --> 01:17:47.935
Uh,

01:17:47.975 --> 01:17:50.576
were there any particular areas of

01:17:50.636 --> 01:17:52.516
focus that you, uh,

01:17:52.577 --> 01:17:53.737
kind of input it this year

01:17:53.837 --> 01:17:54.837
or focused on this year

01:17:55.278 --> 01:17:56.198
more than last year?

01:17:57.578 --> 01:17:59.159
Yeah, I think this, I think, um,

01:18:00.395 --> 01:18:01.416
You know,

01:18:01.475 --> 01:18:05.117
it still gets back to identifying

01:18:05.157 --> 01:18:06.317
the weaknesses with each

01:18:06.377 --> 01:18:07.396
guy on your roster.

01:18:08.057 --> 01:18:09.757
And that could be the best

01:18:09.797 --> 01:18:10.537
player on the team.

01:18:10.618 --> 01:18:11.137
It could be number 125.

01:18:12.738 --> 01:18:14.618
But you have to be able to talk,

01:18:14.719 --> 01:18:15.939
identify those weaknesses,

01:18:15.958 --> 01:18:17.458
and then talk to those guys about it.

01:18:23.320 --> 01:18:25.520
And I'm sure in that defensive tackle room,

01:18:26.341 --> 01:18:27.581
after the season was over,

01:18:28.381 --> 01:18:29.801
some hard conversations were had.

01:18:30.996 --> 01:18:31.355
Oh, yeah.

01:18:32.636 --> 01:18:32.896
Yeah,

01:18:32.917 --> 01:18:34.978
because you're thinking about looking

01:18:35.018 --> 01:18:36.759
forward to this year and

01:18:37.139 --> 01:18:38.939
you're already working and you're like,

01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:40.801
okay, Kyron's coming back.

01:18:41.940 --> 01:18:43.021
This guy's coming back.

01:18:43.542 --> 01:18:45.082
They've talked this guy into coming back.

01:18:45.962 --> 01:18:47.423
Okay, we've got this intact.

01:18:48.345 --> 01:18:49.604
We know what we were weak in.

01:18:49.805 --> 01:18:50.145
Again,

01:18:50.204 --> 01:18:52.266
we've identified where we're weak at.

01:18:53.747 --> 01:18:55.368
What are we going to do about it?

01:18:57.128 --> 01:18:57.229
Yep.

01:18:58.032 --> 01:18:59.912
Probably the first thing he

01:18:59.953 --> 01:19:01.134
did was talk with those players.

01:19:01.614 --> 01:19:02.996
He thought, okay, I'm up next.

01:19:03.595 --> 01:19:03.815
Yep.

01:19:04.457 --> 01:19:05.898
And, you know, probably went into that,

01:19:05.957 --> 01:19:06.177
man.

01:19:06.998 --> 01:19:10.240
And he told them a pretty big line,

01:19:10.280 --> 01:19:11.542
and let's hear it from his

01:19:11.582 --> 01:19:12.582
mouth right here.

01:19:13.243 --> 01:19:13.743
Right.

01:19:15.524 --> 01:19:17.466
It's my job as the head

01:19:17.546 --> 01:19:19.007
coach to make this the most

01:19:19.068 --> 01:19:20.689
competitive roster in the country.

01:19:21.130 --> 01:19:21.729
That's my job.

01:19:22.350 --> 01:19:23.251
If I'm not doing that,

01:19:23.291 --> 01:19:24.511
I'm failing everybody in here.

01:19:24.972 --> 01:19:26.453
We all want to win a championship.

01:19:27.639 --> 01:19:29.961
The fans, the administration, the staff,

01:19:30.001 --> 01:19:32.863
the families, the players, the lettermen.

01:19:33.684 --> 01:19:34.625
So to do that,

01:19:34.725 --> 01:19:35.966
the roster has to be as

01:19:36.046 --> 01:19:37.827
competitive as we can be.

01:19:38.228 --> 01:19:39.529
I tell them, I told them,

01:19:39.828 --> 01:19:40.829
I'm bringing somebody in to

01:19:40.909 --> 01:19:41.690
take your job.

01:19:41.951 --> 01:19:42.690
That's what I'm doing.

01:19:43.511 --> 01:19:44.853
So you better be on your toes.

01:19:45.634 --> 01:19:47.716
That's as real as it gets.

01:19:48.936 --> 01:19:50.478
They understand the climate of things.

01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:55.061
That still might be the best

01:19:55.101 --> 01:19:56.323
soundbite from that interview.

01:19:57.085 --> 01:19:58.506
That interview that we did that day.

01:19:59.305 --> 01:20:00.546
He was just straight up.

01:20:01.627 --> 01:20:05.088
And it's not even a joke

01:20:05.168 --> 01:20:07.430
because you look at what we're doing.

01:20:07.850 --> 01:20:09.270
You know, not only that,

01:20:09.470 --> 01:20:10.292
all over the place.

01:20:10.992 --> 01:20:11.311
You know,

01:20:12.773 --> 01:20:14.333
we were an improving roster last year.

01:20:14.354 --> 01:20:15.213
We said, well,

01:20:15.274 --> 01:20:16.935
there's struggles on certain parts.

01:20:16.994 --> 01:20:18.115
And next thing you know,

01:20:18.136 --> 01:20:18.916
we're going to do it.

01:20:21.478 --> 01:20:21.717
Yeah.

01:20:22.137 --> 01:20:23.458
I mean, that's exactly –

01:20:24.587 --> 01:20:25.609
He is who he is.

01:20:25.908 --> 01:20:27.630
Until he shows me anything different,

01:20:27.751 --> 01:20:29.712
again, I got to give Dwight a shout out.

01:20:30.412 --> 01:20:30.813
Dwight,

01:20:31.172 --> 01:20:32.154
me and him have had many

01:20:32.194 --> 01:20:34.395
conversations off just me

01:20:34.416 --> 01:20:35.976
and him talking and things

01:20:36.037 --> 01:20:36.978
he's told me and stories

01:20:37.018 --> 01:20:38.099
he's told me and probably

01:20:38.139 --> 01:20:39.939
has lived up to everything

01:20:39.979 --> 01:20:41.322
he said and everything he is.

01:20:41.921 --> 01:20:43.823
As far as what kind of person he is,

01:20:43.844 --> 01:20:44.663
what kind of man he is.

01:20:45.645 --> 01:20:46.244
Like you said, that's

01:20:47.850 --> 01:20:49.310
reflecting on this past year,

01:20:49.610 --> 01:20:50.631
looking at the things we've

01:20:50.652 --> 01:20:52.632
done here at BCP and the

01:20:52.672 --> 01:20:54.354
people that we've had here, of course,

01:20:54.395 --> 01:20:56.036
coach probably was here, you know,

01:20:56.176 --> 01:20:58.377
to hear that, that soundbite, that's,

01:20:58.997 --> 01:21:00.338
that's powerful, man.

01:21:00.378 --> 01:21:02.640
Like he told us that he told

01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:04.341
that to Hokie nation.

01:21:04.362 --> 01:21:06.243
He told that to everybody, you know,

01:21:06.283 --> 01:21:07.384
some coaches would just say, well,

01:21:07.404 --> 01:21:08.625
I don't want to say that to everybody.

01:21:09.045 --> 01:21:09.765
You know, I just want to,

01:21:09.905 --> 01:21:10.725
I just want to have that

01:21:10.746 --> 01:21:12.667
behind closed doors or something.

01:21:12.686 --> 01:21:14.189
He said, Hey, I'm telling everybody we,

01:21:14.408 --> 01:21:14.509
we,

01:21:15.730 --> 01:21:17.211
We are trying to be the most

01:21:17.251 --> 01:21:18.752
competitive roster that's out there.

01:21:18.931 --> 01:21:20.492
I'm bringing somebody in to take your job.

01:21:21.393 --> 01:21:22.092
It is what it is.

01:21:22.172 --> 01:21:23.733
I mean, that's big boy football.

01:21:23.792 --> 01:21:25.234
That's big boy sports in general.

01:21:25.694 --> 01:21:26.394
You know what I'm saying?

01:21:27.134 --> 01:21:27.654
At some point,

01:21:27.673 --> 01:21:28.635
you got to understand if you

01:21:28.654 --> 01:21:29.654
want to get to where you got to go,

01:21:29.694 --> 01:21:30.454
you got to get better.

01:21:30.515 --> 01:21:31.354
So either you got to get

01:21:31.395 --> 01:21:32.275
better or I got to bring in

01:21:32.315 --> 01:21:33.155
somebody else that's going

01:21:33.176 --> 01:21:34.115
to get us better.

01:21:34.655 --> 01:21:35.856
Or they might make you better.

01:21:36.317 --> 01:21:37.016
Exactly.

01:21:37.136 --> 01:21:37.636
One of the two.

01:21:38.896 --> 01:21:39.978
You know, thinking about it,

01:21:39.997 --> 01:21:42.979
it's just crazy to think

01:21:43.099 --> 01:21:44.319
where we come from and

01:21:45.416 --> 01:21:46.976
No disrespect to anybody

01:21:47.016 --> 01:21:48.778
who's underrated or

01:21:48.938 --> 01:21:51.119
unranked because look at Dorian Strong.

01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:52.680
You know what I'm saying?

01:21:53.360 --> 01:21:54.662
But you can't build a roster

01:21:54.782 --> 01:21:56.023
of all Dorian Strongs.

01:21:56.042 --> 01:21:57.583
You got to have some can't misses.

01:21:57.703 --> 01:21:58.444
You know what I'm saying?

01:21:59.064 --> 01:22:00.206
Especially when they're

01:22:00.265 --> 01:22:02.186
close to they're in your

01:22:02.207 --> 01:22:03.087
recruiting footprint.

01:22:03.528 --> 01:22:05.149
Look at our receiver room.

01:22:05.368 --> 01:22:05.909
You know what I'm saying?

01:22:05.930 --> 01:22:06.409
You go to

01:22:07.590 --> 01:22:09.532
HBCU and you get Daquan Felton,

01:22:09.551 --> 01:22:10.853
who's going to be a monster.

01:22:10.872 --> 01:22:13.175
We're going to go ahead and call NFL.

01:22:13.576 --> 01:22:14.115
You know what I'm saying?

01:22:14.136 --> 01:22:15.197
You're going to get Jay Lane,

01:22:15.578 --> 01:22:16.698
who even before he got here,

01:22:16.738 --> 01:22:18.460
we was already calling NFL.

01:22:19.201 --> 01:22:19.640
What do you do?

01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:20.641
How do you follow that up?

01:22:21.542 --> 01:22:22.703
You go into high school and

01:22:22.724 --> 01:22:24.546
you recruit Brody Adams.

01:22:25.707 --> 01:22:26.167
Stud.

01:22:26.506 --> 01:22:28.128
You go recruit Chance Wiggins.

01:22:28.609 --> 01:22:29.130
Stud.

01:22:29.789 --> 01:22:30.350
You know what I'm saying?

01:22:30.371 --> 01:22:31.431
Then you got Aiden Green

01:22:31.471 --> 01:22:32.273
waiting in the wings.

01:22:32.332 --> 01:22:32.632
It's like

01:22:33.350 --> 01:22:34.032
What are they going to do?

01:22:34.051 --> 01:22:35.032
Are they going to compete to

01:22:35.072 --> 01:22:35.712
get on the field?

01:22:36.252 --> 01:22:37.094
You know what I'm saying?

01:22:37.154 --> 01:22:39.756
So that is crazy to me just

01:22:39.796 --> 01:22:41.117
to think of where we came

01:22:41.176 --> 01:22:42.978
from and the recruiting.

01:22:43.759 --> 01:22:46.480
That was an idiot.

01:22:47.801 --> 01:22:49.122
He fo-fos, he tipping.

01:22:49.582 --> 01:22:52.045
What great he's ripping.

01:22:52.064 --> 01:22:52.805
There we go.

01:22:53.185 --> 01:22:54.646
We got to go ahead and keep it.

01:22:55.027 --> 01:22:56.988
He's not been in that fo-fo

01:22:57.009 --> 01:22:57.970
for a long time.

01:22:58.510 --> 01:23:00.430
If people are changing it this offseason,

01:23:00.492 --> 01:23:01.112
it ain't happening.

01:23:01.498 --> 01:23:02.500
We just got to go ahead and

01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:03.060
let him ride it.

01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:05.322
I'm scared for him to change it.

01:23:05.421 --> 01:23:07.823
At this point, it's bad luck to change it.

01:23:08.703 --> 01:23:10.265
Just keep doing what you're doing, man.

01:23:10.585 --> 01:23:11.305
NFL him.

01:23:12.405 --> 01:23:13.346
There you go.

01:23:13.546 --> 01:23:14.127
All right,

01:23:14.387 --> 01:23:16.748
so talking back to about what

01:23:16.788 --> 01:23:17.270
we're talking about,

01:23:17.310 --> 01:23:18.591
make the competitive roster,

01:23:19.371 --> 01:23:20.992
one of the big moves this offseason,

01:23:21.011 --> 01:23:22.552
because y'all two talked

01:23:22.592 --> 01:23:23.354
about it a lot on the

01:23:23.373 --> 01:23:24.435
defensive side of the ball,

01:23:24.635 --> 01:23:25.956
not having a Mike linebacker.

01:23:26.395 --> 01:23:27.636
They didn't rest on their laurels.

01:23:28.666 --> 01:23:29.605
They went and told those

01:23:29.685 --> 01:23:31.346
guys in that middle linebacker room,

01:23:31.827 --> 01:23:32.728
we're bringing somebody in

01:23:32.768 --> 01:23:33.667
to take your job.

01:23:34.528 --> 01:23:36.689
And back in April,

01:23:36.708 --> 01:23:37.529
we had a chance to sit down

01:23:37.550 --> 01:23:38.449
with David Cunningham from

01:23:38.489 --> 01:23:40.631
Tech Sideline and Mike McDaniel,

01:23:40.671 --> 01:23:43.131
the man who was on 6,000 Hokie podcasts,

01:23:43.171 --> 01:23:44.212
including the Hokie Hangover.

01:23:44.332 --> 01:23:45.453
We talked about the

01:23:45.493 --> 01:23:47.154
linebacker depth and Sam Brumfield.

01:23:48.113 --> 01:23:49.515
Matthew Jenkins is back, too.

01:23:50.645 --> 01:23:53.307
Like, this is a, you know,

01:23:53.387 --> 01:23:56.009
you add Brumfield and Jenkins together,

01:23:56.328 --> 01:23:57.470
if Virginia Tech can kind

01:23:57.510 --> 01:23:58.150
of get some things

01:23:58.190 --> 01:23:59.430
straightened out there at will,

01:24:00.011 --> 01:24:01.032
I think the Hokies will be

01:24:01.072 --> 01:24:02.153
in good shape there.

01:24:02.172 --> 01:24:04.795
You got Gabe Williams coming in.

01:24:05.234 --> 01:24:06.796
I think the depth is

01:24:06.895 --> 01:24:08.417
starting to develop there,

01:24:08.817 --> 01:24:10.257
assuming they can stay healthy.

01:24:11.118 --> 01:24:11.338
Yep.

01:24:12.979 --> 01:24:13.380
Go ahead, Tyler.

01:24:14.304 --> 01:24:15.505
No, I was just saying, I mean,

01:24:15.524 --> 01:24:16.585
David kind of hit the nail

01:24:16.625 --> 01:24:17.305
on the head when he's

01:24:17.765 --> 01:24:19.426
talking about the depth piece of it.

01:24:19.466 --> 01:24:20.146
You know what I'm saying?

01:24:20.567 --> 01:24:23.288
Like, a lot of years we may have, man,

01:24:23.429 --> 01:24:24.309
it's going to be a good year,

01:24:24.328 --> 01:24:25.409
and then it's football,

01:24:25.430 --> 01:24:26.350
and this guy gets hurt.

01:24:26.791 --> 01:24:28.291
And then you get somebody

01:24:28.331 --> 01:24:29.671
put in behind him that's

01:24:29.712 --> 01:24:32.353
just a total drop-off from

01:24:32.894 --> 01:24:35.755
who that first line of defense is.

01:24:42.101 --> 01:24:44.063
And the honest truth is we

01:24:44.103 --> 01:24:45.123
talk about death, and Tal,

01:24:45.144 --> 01:24:46.123
you even mentioned it tonight.

01:24:46.224 --> 01:24:46.844
It's the death.

01:24:46.904 --> 01:24:47.664
We're getting that death

01:24:47.725 --> 01:24:49.265
where you're not worried anymore.

01:24:49.805 --> 01:24:50.145
And Brian,

01:24:50.166 --> 01:24:51.025
you were mentioning about

01:24:51.065 --> 01:24:52.027
Spencer earlier today.

01:24:53.612 --> 01:24:54.391
Yeah, I mean, you know,

01:24:54.431 --> 01:24:55.393
we talked about his skill

01:24:55.432 --> 01:24:56.493
set and a guy like that

01:24:56.573 --> 01:24:58.094
that can come in for you.

01:24:58.634 --> 01:25:00.034
You know, we had a big question mark,

01:25:00.095 --> 01:25:00.314
you know,

01:25:00.354 --> 01:25:02.756
who's going to be your nickelback?

01:25:02.796 --> 01:25:04.837
Who's going to be kind of that, you know,

01:25:05.157 --> 01:25:07.278
third or fourth safety in the rotation?

01:25:07.938 --> 01:25:08.878
That kind of answers some of

01:25:08.899 --> 01:25:09.658
your questions there.

01:25:09.679 --> 01:25:10.520
And that's another guy that

01:25:10.539 --> 01:25:13.001
can also slide in, play some star,

01:25:13.381 --> 01:25:14.621
potentially play some will.

01:25:14.981 --> 01:25:16.162
He's got that type of build.

01:25:16.181 --> 01:25:17.603
He's got that type of skill set.

01:25:17.662 --> 01:25:17.802
So,

01:25:18.302 --> 01:25:19.885
Having that position flexibility,

01:25:19.925 --> 01:25:21.726
helping in those depth areas,

01:25:22.828 --> 01:25:24.088
that's going to pay big

01:25:24.109 --> 01:25:24.789
dividends because

01:25:25.530 --> 01:25:26.351
especially a safety

01:25:26.391 --> 01:25:28.253
position where you're one

01:25:29.094 --> 01:25:30.315
hit that's two inches

01:25:30.376 --> 01:25:32.057
higher than you planned it

01:25:32.078 --> 01:25:33.359
to be from being out for

01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:34.199
the rest of the game.

01:25:35.409 --> 01:25:37.792
So this isn't even just a injury issue,

01:25:37.872 --> 01:25:38.893
right?

01:25:39.792 --> 01:25:42.314
This is a targeting situation, too.

01:25:42.375 --> 01:25:43.055
I mean,

01:25:43.216 --> 01:25:45.217
we got burned a couple times last year,

01:25:45.278 --> 01:25:47.319
and that was a position of

01:25:47.378 --> 01:25:48.439
concern last year.

01:25:48.460 --> 01:25:50.801
I feel pretty good about it

01:25:50.841 --> 01:25:52.063
this year in terms of some

01:25:52.082 --> 01:25:53.163
of the young guys stepping

01:25:53.283 --> 01:25:55.805
up and some of the more veteran guys.

01:25:55.905 --> 01:25:57.386
But getting another extra

01:25:57.447 --> 01:25:58.948
piece that's had some

01:25:59.168 --> 01:26:00.390
collegiate experience that

01:26:00.430 --> 01:26:02.570
has been on the field for a Power 5 team,

01:26:04.011 --> 01:26:05.292
That's going to help us

01:26:05.912 --> 01:26:07.795
build that depth and

01:26:08.055 --> 01:26:11.377
continue to put offenses

01:26:11.497 --> 01:26:13.677
behind the eight ball more consistently.

01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:16.300
Agreed.

01:26:17.860 --> 01:26:19.042
We're going from transfers

01:26:19.061 --> 01:26:20.283
from Alabama and Miami.

01:26:20.302 --> 01:26:21.082
I mean,

01:26:21.122 --> 01:26:22.543
we're going from transfers from

01:26:23.123 --> 01:26:26.185
Gardner-Will to Alabama and Miami.

01:26:26.506 --> 01:26:26.947
I'll take it.

01:26:27.827 --> 01:26:28.568
Big steps up.

01:26:28.587 --> 01:26:29.448
Big steps up.

01:26:30.939 --> 01:26:31.158
Well,

01:26:31.259 --> 01:26:32.840
we've been talking a lot of defense

01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:34.000
the first parts here,

01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:36.001
but we got to sit down

01:26:36.020 --> 01:26:37.181
about 30 minutes and talk

01:26:37.202 --> 01:26:38.181
with Tyler Bowen.

01:26:38.882 --> 01:26:40.483
And first of all,

01:26:40.502 --> 01:26:42.003
that guy's smart when it

01:26:42.043 --> 01:26:43.043
comes to the offense.

01:26:43.104 --> 01:26:44.145
You can tell just by his

01:26:44.204 --> 01:26:46.065
conversation with us if you

01:26:46.105 --> 01:26:47.286
haven't seen him talk elsewhere.

01:26:47.805 --> 01:26:50.046
But talking about tightening it up,

01:26:50.408 --> 01:26:51.268
let's tighten it up.

01:26:52.872 --> 01:26:54.033
that we were coaching how

01:26:54.073 --> 01:26:55.194
can we coach this better

01:26:55.213 --> 01:26:56.373
how can we make it simpler

01:26:56.413 --> 01:26:58.295
to install so we're looking

01:26:58.335 --> 01:26:59.654
at all that and what I see

01:26:59.675 --> 01:27:01.216
there's just so many areas

01:27:01.256 --> 01:27:02.036
that we just need to

01:27:02.076 --> 01:27:03.537
tighten up right we're

01:27:03.577 --> 01:27:04.756
obviously going to evolve

01:27:04.976 --> 01:27:06.337
from a scheme standpoint

01:27:06.757 --> 01:27:07.637
there were some you know

01:27:07.658 --> 01:27:08.717
there's some good plays as

01:27:08.738 --> 01:27:09.738
the season unfolded but if

01:27:09.798 --> 01:27:10.958
we can just tighten

01:27:11.019 --> 01:27:12.099
everything up if we can

01:27:12.139 --> 01:27:13.260
understand a little bit

01:27:13.340 --> 01:27:14.579
more of the why behind what

01:27:14.619 --> 01:27:16.440
we're doing if we can get our hat

01:27:16.940 --> 01:27:19.222
six inches over on an outside run.

01:27:19.262 --> 01:27:20.743
If we can hit those landmarks,

01:27:21.064 --> 01:27:22.244
there's a lot more yards

01:27:22.284 --> 01:27:23.985
and a lot more points to go on the field.

01:27:24.025 --> 01:27:25.146
And again,

01:27:25.186 --> 01:27:26.467
I'll tie that right back into

01:27:26.507 --> 01:27:27.648
the thing we started with.

01:27:27.667 --> 01:27:29.770
That's the beauty of phase one, right?

01:27:29.810 --> 01:27:31.211
It's about those things.

01:27:31.350 --> 01:27:32.572
It's about the first step.

01:27:32.851 --> 01:27:34.313
It's about not false stepping.

01:27:34.372 --> 01:27:36.453
It's about the drive off the ball,

01:27:36.533 --> 01:27:37.835
the release against outside

01:27:37.875 --> 01:27:38.815
leverage press, right?

01:27:41.502 --> 01:27:43.847
Release against outside leverage pressed.

01:27:44.068 --> 01:27:45.091
God, Jesus,

01:27:45.131 --> 01:27:46.935
what a football saying right there, boys.

01:27:48.341 --> 01:27:48.662
Man,

01:27:49.323 --> 01:27:51.003
you can listen to him talk for a while.

01:27:51.304 --> 01:27:53.784
I need to get a chalk talk

01:27:53.805 --> 01:27:56.407
with just Coach Tebow, a grease board.

01:27:57.868 --> 01:27:59.048
Let's draw some things up.

01:27:59.109 --> 01:28:00.009
Let's talk about it.

01:28:00.048 --> 01:28:01.170
Let's talk about the why.

01:28:01.210 --> 01:28:01.951
Let's talk about the

01:28:01.990 --> 01:28:03.931
technique we need to deploy

01:28:03.971 --> 01:28:05.113
to get that job done.

01:28:06.033 --> 01:28:07.514
Let's do that for a couple hours.

01:28:07.554 --> 01:28:09.095
That sounds like a good time to me, man.

01:28:10.155 --> 01:28:12.396
But no, what he's also talking about,

01:28:12.436 --> 01:28:13.438
he's talking about shoring

01:28:13.478 --> 01:28:15.059
up those fundamentals and

01:28:15.559 --> 01:28:17.000
Making sure that you're not

01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:19.360
forgetting about the

01:28:19.400 --> 01:28:20.301
fundamentals as you

01:28:20.341 --> 01:28:22.261
continue to build upon the

01:28:22.363 --> 01:28:23.582
offensive philosophies that

01:28:23.622 --> 01:28:24.404
he's installing.

01:28:26.043 --> 01:28:28.985
And this goes back to kind of how the team,

01:28:29.826 --> 01:28:31.046
the makeup of the team, right?

01:28:31.106 --> 01:28:34.547
So you can start to polish

01:28:34.568 --> 01:28:35.488
those fundamentals and you

01:28:35.529 --> 01:28:36.649
can start to install some

01:28:36.670 --> 01:28:37.789
of those new things because

01:28:37.810 --> 01:28:39.430
of the continuity that

01:28:39.470 --> 01:28:40.230
we're going to see in this

01:28:40.331 --> 01:28:41.391
offense this year, right?

01:28:42.454 --> 01:28:43.796
Because we got a whole lot

01:28:43.836 --> 01:28:44.817
of guys coming back on the

01:28:44.856 --> 01:28:45.856
offensive side of the ball.

01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:49.640
By my count,

01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:51.581
everybody but our second tight end.

01:28:52.942 --> 01:28:53.162
Yeah.

01:28:54.863 --> 01:28:55.224
That's it.

01:28:56.965 --> 01:28:57.326
That's it.

01:28:59.167 --> 01:28:59.726
I'm excited.

01:29:00.027 --> 01:29:01.609
Robbie said he's coaching wide receivers.

01:29:01.628 --> 01:29:04.831
I don't know how that's going to go.

01:29:06.347 --> 01:29:07.868
Robbie, you got to get a video of that,

01:29:07.908 --> 01:29:08.229
please.

01:29:08.509 --> 01:29:08.769
Please.

01:29:08.809 --> 01:29:11.869
But I think overall, when you hear that,

01:29:12.750 --> 01:29:14.551
it's not to – he talked about that.

01:29:14.751 --> 01:29:15.671
Remember that episode is

01:29:15.712 --> 01:29:16.372
down to the studs.

01:29:16.391 --> 01:29:17.992
We got to take it down, which is right.

01:29:18.391 --> 01:29:19.252
But then he got to that

01:29:19.313 --> 01:29:20.672
point is like tightening it up.

01:29:21.073 --> 01:29:22.573
Because what he's telling you there,

01:29:22.814 --> 01:29:23.753
because to Brian's point,

01:29:23.795 --> 01:29:24.975
a lot of guys are returning.

01:29:25.755 --> 01:29:26.695
We don't need a makeover.

01:29:26.996 --> 01:29:27.895
That was last year.

01:29:28.716 --> 01:29:29.737
We just got to tighten up

01:29:29.777 --> 01:29:31.476
those little things and do

01:29:31.516 --> 01:29:33.318
just the little things,

01:29:33.438 --> 01:29:35.298
be better just a little bit more.

01:29:36.220 --> 01:29:37.100
Because if we better adjust

01:29:37.119 --> 01:29:39.140
a little bit more, it goes a lot longer.

01:29:40.001 --> 01:29:41.582
And to that point,

01:29:41.641 --> 01:29:42.702
when we spoke with Kyron

01:29:42.721 --> 01:29:44.962
Drones back in the winter,

01:29:46.144 --> 01:29:47.764
talked about those guys coming back.

01:29:48.363 --> 01:29:50.604
Talked about what a

01:29:50.685 --> 01:29:52.865
situation we have on our hands this year.

01:29:55.632 --> 01:29:56.493
Love hearing you kind of

01:29:56.514 --> 01:29:57.094
stepping up with a

01:29:57.134 --> 01:29:58.715
leadership role from that

01:29:58.755 --> 01:30:00.836
perspective and getting

01:30:00.855 --> 01:30:02.176
guys on board and saying, all right,

01:30:02.197 --> 01:30:03.398
we got some unfinished business.

01:30:03.898 --> 01:30:05.618
And the better we come back

01:30:05.679 --> 01:30:06.380
and do it next year,

01:30:06.399 --> 01:30:07.539
the more that kind of

01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:09.402
raises everybody's ship for the future,

01:30:09.442 --> 01:30:09.641
right?

01:30:10.202 --> 01:30:10.322
Yeah,

01:30:10.381 --> 01:30:11.863
it's basically a win-win situation

01:30:11.903 --> 01:30:12.502
for everybody.

01:30:12.523 --> 01:30:15.345
Virginia Tech winning games, you get seen,

01:30:15.625 --> 01:30:16.805
you get to go,

01:30:16.845 --> 01:30:17.827
you want to be in the league,

01:30:17.867 --> 01:30:18.667
and that's where everybody

01:30:18.686 --> 01:30:19.948
want to go in college football.

01:30:19.988 --> 01:30:21.548
So it's a win-win situation.

01:30:27.869 --> 01:30:29.350
I love it when a plan comes together.

01:30:30.631 --> 01:30:31.391
A win-win.

01:30:31.412 --> 01:30:32.452
A win-win.

01:30:32.551 --> 01:30:33.351
It's a win-win.

01:30:33.372 --> 01:30:34.672
Virginia Tech win games.

01:30:34.813 --> 01:30:35.793
You get to be seen,

01:30:36.453 --> 01:30:38.274
and I get to meet Kevin and the boys.

01:30:41.256 --> 01:30:42.376
Everybody wins.

01:30:42.676 --> 01:30:43.936
Everybody wins.

01:30:44.117 --> 01:30:46.797
Everybody wins in that situation.

01:30:46.877 --> 01:30:47.519
And, again,

01:30:48.338 --> 01:30:49.880
with all those guys coming back,

01:30:49.920 --> 01:30:51.039
just tighten it up a little.

01:30:51.420 --> 01:30:52.600
Just tighten it up a little.

01:30:53.662 --> 01:30:54.382
Tighten it up a little,

01:30:54.403 --> 01:30:55.043
and it ain't going to be a

01:30:55.083 --> 01:30:56.043
lot of teams that can do

01:30:56.104 --> 01:30:58.085
anything with this Hokies

01:30:58.506 --> 01:30:59.466
roster this year.

01:30:59.485 --> 01:31:03.628
Oh, yeah, it's going to be tough.

01:31:03.668 --> 01:31:05.750
If we show up and we play consistently,

01:31:05.789 --> 01:31:07.730
if we consistently play to

01:31:08.411 --> 01:31:11.252
anywhere near our capability every week,

01:31:12.890 --> 01:31:13.670
it's going to be trouble

01:31:13.789 --> 01:31:15.551
because there's dudes all

01:31:15.610 --> 01:31:17.110
over the place at the skill positions.

01:31:17.811 --> 01:31:19.412
I'm already talking shit, man.

01:31:19.471 --> 01:31:20.533
I ain't saying no ifs.

01:31:20.953 --> 01:31:22.113
I'm saying when we get out

01:31:22.132 --> 01:31:23.673
here and do what we're going to do,

01:31:23.713 --> 01:31:24.573
fuck that if shit.

01:31:24.993 --> 01:31:26.635
I don't want to do too many years.

01:31:27.255 --> 01:31:30.775
Even when we were sorry,

01:31:31.256 --> 01:31:32.416
I was still talking shit.

01:31:32.756 --> 01:31:35.778
So you know when I know

01:31:35.818 --> 01:31:36.677
we're going to be talking shit.

01:31:36.698 --> 01:31:37.618
We got some juice, man.

01:31:41.345 --> 01:31:44.287
We got QB1 in the building.

01:31:44.867 --> 01:31:46.568
We good to go.

01:31:46.728 --> 01:31:48.247
It's going to be a fun ride this year.

01:31:48.747 --> 01:31:49.529
I'm telling y'all,

01:31:49.788 --> 01:31:52.329
if you following me and you

01:31:52.369 --> 01:31:55.070
don't like cussing and you

01:31:55.110 --> 01:31:56.792
don't want to hear no shit talking,

01:31:57.692 --> 01:31:59.773
I done took a little hiatus from X,

01:31:59.813 --> 01:32:00.132
Twitter,

01:32:00.153 --> 01:32:03.074
whatever it's called because I

01:32:03.095 --> 01:32:04.175
done had some stuff going

01:32:04.295 --> 01:32:06.416
on in my normal life.

01:32:07.095 --> 01:32:10.398
Good stuff, but when football come around,

01:32:10.801 --> 01:32:12.443
Y'all going to have to put me on mute.

01:32:14.024 --> 01:32:15.024
I'm telling you right now.

01:32:15.865 --> 01:32:18.228
I'm retweeting everything you put out.

01:32:18.247 --> 01:32:18.967
Not y'all two.

01:32:19.188 --> 01:32:19.988
I'm talking about the people

01:32:20.009 --> 01:32:20.668
that are watching.

01:32:21.289 --> 01:32:24.192
The UVA fans, my boys, Ike.

01:32:24.412 --> 01:32:25.172
Shout out to Ike.

01:32:25.632 --> 01:32:26.554
Shout out to DJ.

01:32:27.354 --> 01:32:27.494
OG.

01:32:27.515 --> 01:32:29.895
Y'all going to have to put me on mute,

01:32:29.935 --> 01:32:30.256
man.

01:32:30.377 --> 01:32:31.417
I'm telling you right now.

01:32:31.478 --> 01:32:34.619
Y'all going to hate me.

01:32:34.859 --> 01:32:36.801
It's old Twitter coming back, baby.

01:32:36.962 --> 01:32:37.761
Oh, buddy.

01:32:38.262 --> 01:32:38.682
Oh, buddy.

01:32:39.304 --> 01:32:40.045
Yes, sir.

01:32:40.244 --> 01:32:41.045
Because you know why?

01:32:41.865 --> 01:32:42.907
Because winning matters.

01:32:43.667 --> 01:32:46.128
Because winning matters.

01:32:46.789 --> 01:32:47.329
Yes, sir.

01:32:48.030 --> 01:32:49.171
And then a motherfucker like me,

01:32:49.192 --> 01:32:50.452
you ain't even got – I mean,

01:32:50.471 --> 01:32:51.393
I want to win,

01:32:51.412 --> 01:32:52.673
but you just got to give me

01:32:52.694 --> 01:32:54.615
a sliver of hope for me to

01:32:54.636 --> 01:32:55.615
start talking crazy.

01:32:55.877 --> 01:32:57.677
I think winning games is very important,

01:32:57.757 --> 01:32:58.158
obviously.

01:32:58.278 --> 01:33:00.539
That's the ultimate – you know,

01:33:00.779 --> 01:33:02.641
on the field, that's the ultimate goal,

01:33:02.681 --> 01:33:02.962
right?

01:33:04.582 --> 01:33:08.458
But at the same time, I think the belief –

01:33:08.458 --> 01:33:10.220
in the way we're doing things.

01:33:11.161 --> 01:33:12.421
I think the belief in how

01:33:12.502 --> 01:33:13.282
people are treated.

01:33:14.122 --> 01:33:15.162
I think the belief in the

01:33:15.243 --> 01:33:17.444
experience is all important too.

01:33:18.506 --> 01:33:19.185
I'm not going to sit here

01:33:19.225 --> 01:33:20.027
and say guys are going to

01:33:20.046 --> 01:33:20.947
be happy winning three

01:33:20.987 --> 01:33:21.747
games because they're not.

01:33:21.807 --> 01:33:22.368
Nobody is.

01:33:23.948 --> 01:33:25.010
But as long as everybody

01:33:25.050 --> 01:33:25.949
feels like we're going in

01:33:25.970 --> 01:33:26.810
the right direction,

01:33:26.850 --> 01:33:27.971
we're doing the right things,

01:33:27.992 --> 01:33:28.952
there's improvements,

01:33:29.712 --> 01:33:30.873
that's what I hope for.

01:33:30.894 --> 01:33:31.573
And I think that's what's

01:33:31.613 --> 01:33:32.795
really important right now

01:33:33.135 --> 01:33:34.456
with where we're at as a program.

01:33:36.394 --> 01:33:38.335
Tally, say what you were saying, man.

01:33:38.675 --> 01:33:39.875
We pressed a button too soon.

01:33:41.315 --> 01:33:41.996
You did it right.

01:33:42.216 --> 01:33:43.456
You had to slow me down.

01:33:43.475 --> 01:33:44.315
I'm going to say this.

01:33:44.997 --> 01:33:50.318
Curtis, three, seven, question mark.

01:33:51.158 --> 01:33:51.578
Nuh-uh.

01:33:51.719 --> 01:33:53.219
I want you to fill in the question mark.

01:33:53.319 --> 01:33:54.198
Oh, it's too early, man.

01:33:54.260 --> 01:33:55.600
I got to save that content for August.

01:33:55.619 --> 01:33:59.121
Brian, three, seven, August.

01:33:59.140 --> 01:34:00.520
Billy Bob said it the best.

01:34:01.042 --> 01:34:01.481
Ten.

01:34:01.862 --> 01:34:02.282
Ten.

01:34:02.462 --> 01:34:03.442
A fucking ten.

01:34:03.462 --> 01:34:05.283
Keep going ten.

01:34:08.113 --> 01:34:09.253
I was going to say 10 too.

01:34:09.814 --> 01:34:10.255
Hold on.

01:34:10.795 --> 01:34:10.914
See,

01:34:10.975 --> 01:34:12.636
I'm holding it because I was bullish

01:34:12.695 --> 01:34:13.676
at eight last year.

01:34:13.697 --> 01:34:16.057
I was the only one to put

01:34:16.097 --> 01:34:16.978
that number out there.

01:34:17.158 --> 01:34:17.719
Yeah, you was.

01:34:18.538 --> 01:34:19.460
I was the only one.

01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:21.520
And I still attest if Kyron

01:34:21.541 --> 01:34:22.822
Drone starts game one,

01:34:23.542 --> 01:34:25.162
we hit eight if not nine wins.

01:34:25.802 --> 01:34:26.363
Yeah, you was.

01:34:26.422 --> 01:34:26.844
You said it.

01:34:27.444 --> 01:34:28.043
I said eight.

01:34:29.145 --> 01:34:30.805
People thought I was nuts.

01:34:30.826 --> 01:34:31.765
I was on six.

01:34:32.145 --> 01:34:32.587
You said it.

01:34:32.707 --> 01:34:33.127
You said it.

01:34:35.770 --> 01:34:37.033
And I still feel confident.

01:34:38.435 --> 01:34:40.179
You just wait until August, Tally,

01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:42.101
and I'm going to get quite

01:34:42.122 --> 01:34:43.163
a few of these in me.

01:34:43.824 --> 01:34:44.485
It ain't no telling what's

01:34:44.506 --> 01:34:45.306
going to come out of my lips.

01:34:46.246 --> 01:34:46.845
Hey, man, you know,

01:34:46.865 --> 01:34:47.766
when we talk about winning,

01:34:47.806 --> 01:34:48.827
you got to start with the

01:34:48.907 --> 01:34:49.988
fundamentals and you got to

01:34:50.047 --> 01:34:52.328
start with what the guys

01:34:52.368 --> 01:34:53.448
need to improve and what

01:34:53.469 --> 01:34:54.448
they need to work on.

01:34:55.149 --> 01:34:56.329
And the big thing that we're

01:34:56.350 --> 01:34:58.011
always preaching is competition, right?

01:34:58.030 --> 01:34:59.110
Coach Price preaching it.

01:34:59.490 --> 01:35:03.773
And we had Coach Tyler Bowen on.

01:35:03.813 --> 01:35:04.554
We already talked to him a

01:35:04.573 --> 01:35:05.854
little bit about the X's and O's.

01:35:05.913 --> 01:35:07.454
But here he's talking a

01:35:07.475 --> 01:35:09.074
little bit about kind of

01:35:09.354 --> 01:35:10.756
how that competition plays

01:35:10.836 --> 01:35:11.917
into what they do from an

01:35:11.936 --> 01:35:13.037
evaluation standpoint.

01:35:14.292 --> 01:35:15.817
What is that emphasis that

01:35:15.856 --> 01:35:17.221
coach Brian has on competition?

01:35:17.242 --> 01:35:18.324
What can you kind of see

01:35:18.386 --> 01:35:20.030
from that from these winter

01:35:20.051 --> 01:35:21.354
workouts and those hunger drills?

01:35:22.028 --> 01:35:22.927
Yeah, it's awesome, right?

01:35:22.948 --> 01:35:24.668
That's a fundamental for our program.

01:35:25.948 --> 01:35:26.828
It's pretty neat, right?

01:35:26.908 --> 01:35:29.029
Every drill is competitive.

01:35:29.069 --> 01:35:30.289
So when we're running that

01:35:30.350 --> 01:35:32.210
agility circuit or whatever we're doing,

01:35:32.590 --> 01:35:33.751
there's a matchup, right?

01:35:33.791 --> 01:35:34.490
So they all have an

01:35:34.551 --> 01:35:35.850
individual matchup and then

01:35:35.890 --> 01:35:37.810
there's individual group

01:35:37.930 --> 01:35:39.971
and team competitions at the end.

01:35:40.011 --> 01:35:42.893
So putting them in a mindset to compete,

01:35:42.932 --> 01:35:44.472
that's a big piece of it.

01:35:44.832 --> 01:35:46.292
It's not just when you hit the grass,

01:35:46.332 --> 01:35:46.932
you've got to have a

01:35:46.993 --> 01:35:48.394
mindset to win at all times.

01:35:48.413 --> 01:35:49.234
And I think we're able to

01:35:49.655 --> 01:35:50.655
build that in our hunger

01:35:50.676 --> 01:35:51.957
drills and phase one.

01:35:54.778 --> 01:35:55.917
It's the mindset, right?

01:35:56.717 --> 01:35:56.998
We've been,

01:35:57.179 --> 01:35:58.559
we've been talking about it all night.

01:35:58.599 --> 01:35:59.979
It's a mindset of competing

01:36:00.140 --> 01:36:02.079
and it's that whole thing.

01:36:02.140 --> 01:36:03.261
I think I feel like,

01:36:03.360 --> 01:36:04.541
I don't think he said it to us,

01:36:04.720 --> 01:36:05.981
but prize said it before.

01:36:07.242 --> 01:36:09.403
You do not want the taste of loss,

01:36:10.262 --> 01:36:12.163
whether it be a tire pulling drill,

01:36:12.184 --> 01:36:15.024
a foot race, the spring game,

01:36:16.645 --> 01:36:17.926
playing cards together,

01:36:18.541 --> 01:36:19.521
playing a board game,

01:36:19.662 --> 01:36:20.462
or getting on the field.

01:36:20.923 --> 01:36:21.083
Yep.

01:36:21.904 --> 01:36:24.448
And to me, that's what's – to me,

01:36:24.528 --> 01:36:25.167
it clicked.

01:36:25.228 --> 01:36:26.609
I think that – Tally,

01:36:26.649 --> 01:36:27.730
you mentioned the Marshall game.

01:36:28.471 --> 01:36:30.314
I think what we saw happen

01:36:30.354 --> 01:36:31.154
after the Marshall game,

01:36:31.215 --> 01:36:32.256
I think it clicked.

01:36:32.315 --> 01:36:33.677
I think finally that taste

01:36:33.717 --> 01:36:35.520
just hit wrong because that

01:36:35.619 --> 01:36:37.641
day we should have won.

01:36:38.122 --> 01:36:39.043
Should have won by a lot.

01:36:40.918 --> 01:36:42.020
And I'm sure it was probably,

01:36:42.420 --> 01:36:43.280
what's that taste like?

01:36:43.881 --> 01:36:44.582
You outplayed them.

01:36:44.822 --> 01:36:45.822
You ran over top of them.

01:36:45.881 --> 01:36:47.863
They made a couple good ones.

01:36:48.043 --> 01:36:49.185
They made a couple good plays.

01:36:49.824 --> 01:36:50.005
Yep.

01:36:50.445 --> 01:36:51.025
And they beat you.

01:36:51.485 --> 01:36:53.207
They took advantage of your mistakes,

01:36:53.347 --> 01:36:55.668
even though you played play-to-play,

01:36:56.810 --> 01:36:57.850
ran over them pretty good.

01:36:58.511 --> 01:37:00.112
But they took advantage of the mistakes,

01:37:00.231 --> 01:37:01.653
and they got in the end

01:37:01.693 --> 01:37:02.913
zone when it mattered.

01:37:03.574 --> 01:37:03.715
Yep.

01:37:04.414 --> 01:37:06.996
You got to be competitive every rep.

01:37:08.016 --> 01:37:09.136
Every rep matters.

01:37:09.596 --> 01:37:10.478
And that's what this is

01:37:10.497 --> 01:37:11.938
talking about with the hunger drills.

01:37:12.137 --> 01:37:13.198
Every rep matters.

01:37:14.198 --> 01:37:14.759
That's what's talking about

01:37:14.779 --> 01:37:15.800
with the competition during

01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:17.461
winter workouts and at practice.

01:37:17.640 --> 01:37:18.581
Every rep matters.

01:37:18.621 --> 01:37:21.242
You got to be, if you want to win a game,

01:37:21.942 --> 01:37:22.682
there's a whole lot of

01:37:22.722 --> 01:37:24.262
plays that it takes to add up to that.

01:37:25.243 --> 01:37:26.663
You can't be taking reps off.

01:37:26.703 --> 01:37:28.185
You can't be taking plays off.

01:37:29.104 --> 01:37:30.586
Or that might be the time

01:37:31.206 --> 01:37:32.106
when the team gets that

01:37:32.146 --> 01:37:32.867
upper hand on you.

01:37:34.109 --> 01:37:34.670
And it doesn't matter

01:37:34.689 --> 01:37:35.710
whether it's Marshall or

01:37:35.750 --> 01:37:36.631
whether it's Clemson or

01:37:36.650 --> 01:37:37.490
whether it's Miami.

01:37:38.150 --> 01:37:40.251
Whoever it is, on any given day,

01:37:40.310 --> 01:37:41.952
if you're not winning every

01:37:42.032 --> 01:37:43.192
rep and you're letting

01:37:43.231 --> 01:37:44.792
plays go that you didn't

01:37:44.811 --> 01:37:45.832
give your best effort,

01:37:47.552 --> 01:37:49.172
it can go the wrong way.

01:37:49.712 --> 01:37:51.092
You got to get tired of losing.

01:37:51.634 --> 01:37:53.854
But you also, this season,

01:37:54.894 --> 01:37:56.715
you got to handle what it

01:37:56.755 --> 01:37:57.454
feels like to have

01:37:57.574 --> 01:37:58.895
expectations on you too.

01:38:00.654 --> 01:38:01.636
You can't just because

01:38:01.855 --> 01:38:03.595
people are telling you that you're good,

01:38:04.587 --> 01:38:05.868
You just show up and think

01:38:05.889 --> 01:38:06.989
that that's going to be good enough.

01:38:09.152 --> 01:38:10.774
You still got to compete every rep.

01:38:11.274 --> 01:38:11.534
Yep.

01:38:11.774 --> 01:38:12.454
Got to go win it.

01:38:12.836 --> 01:38:13.896
You got to go beat these

01:38:13.957 --> 01:38:15.798
teams that you can't look

01:38:15.838 --> 01:38:20.563
at nothing like this is a big game.

01:38:21.024 --> 01:38:21.963
We the big game.

01:38:22.564 --> 01:38:23.685
You just got to go play.

01:38:24.787 --> 01:38:25.648
We the big game.

01:38:25.807 --> 01:38:26.569
You know what I'm saying?

01:38:27.846 --> 01:38:28.887
Dude, I'm going to tell you this.

01:38:29.309 --> 01:38:31.952
I talked to David Cutcliffe this week,

01:38:32.072 --> 01:38:32.953
which was crazy.

01:38:34.094 --> 01:38:35.735
I work for a pest control company.

01:38:36.713 --> 01:38:38.314
I do inside sales for a pest

01:38:38.335 --> 01:38:39.036
control company,

01:38:39.115 --> 01:38:40.497
and I get a lead that I

01:38:40.537 --> 01:38:41.978
need to call one of our customers.

01:38:42.778 --> 01:38:45.399
And that customer was David Cutcliffe.

01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:47.962
And I'm like, David Cutcliffe?

01:38:48.322 --> 01:38:49.483
It ain't nobody in the world

01:38:49.502 --> 01:38:50.023
with the name Cutcliffe.

01:38:50.403 --> 01:38:50.844
Hey, man,

01:38:51.543 --> 01:38:53.185
it was a guy that coached Duke

01:38:53.465 --> 01:38:54.485
with the same name as you.

01:38:54.506 --> 01:38:55.287
He's like, yeah, that's me.

01:38:55.806 --> 01:38:58.708
So I sit there and talk for

01:38:58.748 --> 01:39:00.329
like 30 minutes about

01:39:00.970 --> 01:39:03.072
Blacksburg and Frank Beamer

01:39:03.091 --> 01:39:04.112
because him and Frank is

01:39:04.193 --> 01:39:05.974
really good friends, his words.

01:39:07.135 --> 01:39:08.055
And he talked about the

01:39:08.194 --> 01:39:10.317
atmosphere at Virginia Tech.

01:39:11.157 --> 01:39:11.476
He was like,

01:39:11.516 --> 01:39:12.377
I don't know how many games

01:39:12.398 --> 01:39:13.118
you get to go to.

01:39:13.139 --> 01:39:13.578
He was like,

01:39:13.639 --> 01:39:15.140
but it's nothing like going to

01:39:15.159 --> 01:39:15.699
Blacksburg.

01:39:16.201 --> 01:39:16.541
He was like,

01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:18.082
I was so amped to play Frank

01:39:18.141 --> 01:39:19.042
every time we played

01:39:19.082 --> 01:39:20.182
because I wanted to win in

01:39:20.222 --> 01:39:20.923
that atmosphere.

01:39:22.229 --> 01:39:23.211
We the big game.

01:39:23.591 --> 01:39:25.212
Like, you going to get everybody's best,

01:39:25.632 --> 01:39:26.774
so you got to go win.

01:39:26.814 --> 01:39:28.956
You can't worry about the expectations.

01:39:29.317 --> 01:39:29.777
You can't worry.

01:39:29.976 --> 01:39:30.858
Like, we got to go win.

01:39:31.479 --> 01:39:33.841
And this is a good year to

01:39:34.320 --> 01:39:35.282
put it to the test, man.

01:39:35.842 --> 01:39:38.164
Again, I'm over the moon.

01:39:38.185 --> 01:39:39.706
I'm ready to start talking crazy.

01:39:40.106 --> 01:39:41.828
If we win, let me see.

01:39:41.847 --> 01:39:42.609
I don't even want to put a

01:39:42.668 --> 01:39:43.310
number on the chat.

01:39:44.537 --> 01:39:45.136
I'm going to put it down.

01:39:45.176 --> 01:39:48.538
If we get in the double, I have no tattoos,

01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:50.940
no piercings.

01:39:51.240 --> 01:39:53.703
If we win double-digit games this year,

01:39:54.222 --> 01:39:55.162
I'm getting a tattoo.

01:39:55.984 --> 01:39:57.225
I don't know what it's going to be yet,

01:39:58.145 --> 01:39:58.966
but I'm going to get a tattoo.

01:39:58.985 --> 01:40:00.407
Sally, we get matching tattoos.

01:40:00.907 --> 01:40:01.506
Oh, gosh.

01:40:02.307 --> 01:40:04.889
Hey, we might let y'all pick.

01:40:05.310 --> 01:40:07.211
We might run a poll.

01:40:07.310 --> 01:40:08.270
I don't know what we're going to do,

01:40:08.291 --> 01:40:09.332
but I'm telling you right now.

01:40:10.252 --> 01:40:11.092
Put what Thomas said, 15-0.

01:40:15.029 --> 01:40:18.070
Bring it.

01:40:18.471 --> 01:40:21.194
If we 15 and 0, everybody getting tattoos.

01:40:21.554 --> 01:40:24.015
I'd get a tattoo if we 15 and 0.

01:40:27.559 --> 01:40:30.440
Because I ain't got one on my body either.

01:40:30.841 --> 01:40:33.764
I'm super scared of needles.

01:40:33.823 --> 01:40:34.503
I hate needles.

01:40:34.623 --> 01:40:35.104
I got the one.

01:40:35.125 --> 01:40:36.786
I got one in the oven though.

01:40:36.865 --> 01:40:37.587
I got one coming.

01:40:39.860 --> 01:40:40.502
Yeah, one coming.

01:40:41.082 --> 01:40:41.762
All right, well,

01:40:41.922 --> 01:40:42.663
Tally's saying you're going

01:40:42.684 --> 01:40:43.625
to have two coming by.

01:40:43.704 --> 01:40:44.786
Apparently, I got two coming.

01:40:44.805 --> 01:40:45.167
Let's do it.

01:40:45.186 --> 01:40:46.067
You got two coming.

01:40:46.667 --> 01:40:47.529
We get double digit.

01:40:47.609 --> 01:40:48.569
Hey, I'm going up in there.

01:40:49.291 --> 01:40:50.511
All right, boys.

01:40:50.591 --> 01:40:52.694
So the last clip we got here

01:40:52.753 --> 01:40:53.774
was with Kyron,

01:40:53.835 --> 01:40:55.457
and it was us talking a little bit.

01:40:58.256 --> 01:40:58.796
There you go.

01:40:59.577 --> 01:41:01.177
That's what y'all need to get right there.

01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:04.838
I missed it.

01:41:04.859 --> 01:41:06.800
What was it?

01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:07.900
Try to get us in trouble, man.

01:41:08.341 --> 01:41:09.661
Get your Hokie Tracks tramp

01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:10.581
stamps on your backs.

01:41:13.221 --> 01:41:14.542
That might be a cool... Not

01:41:14.582 --> 01:41:15.682
on the tramp stamp.

01:41:15.703 --> 01:41:20.045
That's a wild first tattoo for somebody.

01:41:22.271 --> 01:41:26.796
I want to play this clip

01:41:26.817 --> 01:41:28.338
from Kyron when we talk to him.

01:41:30.301 --> 01:41:31.021
Just play it, Brian,

01:41:31.042 --> 01:41:32.203
and we can come back and talk about it.

01:41:32.222 --> 01:41:34.626
This hit.

01:41:35.907 --> 01:41:37.708
We appreciate you giving us...

01:41:38.670 --> 01:41:40.251
The feeling that we get,

01:41:40.850 --> 01:41:42.971
like we're back when these

01:41:43.011 --> 01:41:45.833
guys in here were 17, 18, 19, 20,

01:41:45.832 --> 01:41:47.734
the feeling of those teams

01:41:48.134 --> 01:41:49.033
that we had back then,

01:41:49.073 --> 01:41:50.073
like watching you out there,

01:41:50.835 --> 01:41:52.074
it's that very same feeling.

01:41:52.095 --> 01:41:53.296
So we appreciate that about you.

01:41:53.735 --> 01:41:55.176
Yeah, I'll just try to keep it going.

01:41:55.555 --> 01:41:56.516
You took us back, man.

01:41:56.716 --> 01:41:57.577
You really did.

01:41:57.617 --> 01:41:58.557
What y'all did in the back

01:41:58.597 --> 01:42:00.497
half of the season took these guys back.

01:42:00.578 --> 01:42:02.279
I'm 40, Brian's 39, Tally's 38.

01:42:03.238 --> 01:42:06.720
So you do the math, Vic, Tyrod,

01:42:07.579 --> 01:42:08.300
Ryan Randall.

01:42:08.340 --> 01:42:08.760
I mean,

01:42:08.899 --> 01:42:10.140
I'm sure you see those names all

01:42:10.161 --> 01:42:11.841
the time in the center.

01:42:12.140 --> 01:42:13.440
You took us back last year.

01:42:13.961 --> 01:42:16.322
And, I mean, you know,

01:42:16.341 --> 01:42:18.162
we went to games like when

01:42:18.181 --> 01:42:18.761
we were younger.

01:42:18.782 --> 01:42:19.363
I mean, we were wild.

01:42:19.403 --> 01:42:19.922
We were crazy.

01:42:19.943 --> 01:42:20.802
We did stupid stuff.

01:42:20.903 --> 01:42:23.203
I mean, let's, you know,

01:42:23.502 --> 01:42:24.623
there's things that we've done.

01:42:24.804 --> 01:42:25.583
But when you have that

01:42:25.684 --> 01:42:26.984
feeling and the brain comes back,

01:42:27.024 --> 01:42:28.543
it's like this is the way it was.

01:42:29.064 --> 01:42:30.185
This is the way it was.

01:42:30.204 --> 01:42:31.604
This is the way it should be.

01:42:33.546 --> 01:42:35.405
I listened to that kid four times today.

01:42:36.484 --> 01:42:37.506
Because, Tally,

01:42:37.546 --> 01:42:39.608
the way you're feeling is

01:42:39.627 --> 01:42:40.569
the way it should be,

01:42:40.689 --> 01:42:41.890
and it's the way it was

01:42:41.970 --> 01:42:42.890
every football season.

01:42:42.911 --> 01:42:44.051
It's the way it was every

01:42:44.131 --> 01:42:45.734
offseason for pretty much

01:42:45.833 --> 01:42:47.256
our entire lives until

01:42:47.296 --> 01:42:48.617
these last about eight years.

01:42:50.337 --> 01:42:51.078
Because you remember.

01:42:51.500 --> 01:42:52.260
I mean, think about it.

01:42:52.680 --> 01:42:54.823
I mean, and again,

01:42:54.922 --> 01:42:56.363
and I say it and I reiterate it,

01:42:56.444 --> 01:42:57.565
what they did in the back

01:42:57.605 --> 01:42:59.226
half of that season last year,

01:42:59.768 --> 01:43:00.868
that's the way it felt.

01:43:01.583 --> 01:43:04.186
Like, the Syracuse game,

01:43:04.867 --> 01:43:05.887
watching that game and just

01:43:06.149 --> 01:43:06.988
knocking the shit out of

01:43:07.009 --> 01:43:09.492
the quarterback and just at will scoring.

01:43:09.891 --> 01:43:10.792
We're going to score again.

01:43:11.993 --> 01:43:12.715
We're going to score again.

01:43:12.734 --> 01:43:13.916
The UVA game,

01:43:14.636 --> 01:43:16.819
just we aren't going to quit

01:43:16.899 --> 01:43:18.400
scoring on you.

01:43:18.421 --> 01:43:19.001
50-burger, baby.

01:43:20.082 --> 01:43:20.302
Yeah.

01:43:20.962 --> 01:43:21.944
Then we're going to run one

01:43:21.984 --> 01:43:24.006
back on special teams and

01:43:24.046 --> 01:43:24.947
go celebrate on the hill.

01:43:27.261 --> 01:43:28.243
I got to hit on this right

01:43:28.323 --> 01:43:29.323
quick just because Robbie

01:43:29.384 --> 01:43:30.244
put it on there.

01:43:31.247 --> 01:43:33.729
You know what's crazy though?

01:43:33.729 --> 01:43:35.672
44 really was my favorite

01:43:35.712 --> 01:43:37.935
number growing up.

01:43:38.216 --> 01:43:39.779
If you look at my Twitter handles,

01:43:40.399 --> 01:43:40.779
Taliban44.

01:43:42.261 --> 01:43:44.144
So my number was 44.

01:43:44.224 --> 01:43:45.064
But when I got to high

01:43:45.085 --> 01:43:47.106
school football and I was in ninth grade,

01:43:47.667 --> 01:43:48.667
the tight end that was

01:43:48.828 --> 01:43:50.510
ahead of me was 44.

01:43:50.510 --> 01:43:52.332
So they was like, oh, you got to take 47.

01:43:52.391 --> 01:43:54.193
So the road that I lived on,

01:43:54.333 --> 01:43:55.814
I lived off of Highway 47.

01:43:55.814 --> 01:43:58.557
So I just started rocking 47.

01:43:59.278 --> 01:44:01.279
But now I like the number 44.

01:44:02.001 --> 01:44:04.023
I just didn't like it on my cornerback.

01:44:04.837 --> 01:44:07.140
But when he hits All-American status,

01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:08.100
I got to just shut up and

01:44:08.140 --> 01:44:09.020
let him do what he doing.

01:44:09.542 --> 01:44:10.302
You know what I'm saying?

01:44:10.703 --> 01:44:11.684
When he had the kind of year

01:44:11.703 --> 01:44:12.984
he had last year, he's like, okay, well,

01:44:13.284 --> 01:44:14.926
if you want to wear 44,

01:44:14.926 --> 01:44:16.146
wear whatever you want, man.

01:44:16.627 --> 01:44:17.908
Wear whatever number you want.

01:44:21.712 --> 01:44:23.273
Yeah, and like I said,

01:44:23.353 --> 01:44:24.774
I love hearing that from Kyron,

01:44:24.875 --> 01:44:26.716
and I love thinking about

01:44:27.036 --> 01:44:29.018
kind of where we've come in

01:44:29.037 --> 01:44:30.538
the last couple years,

01:44:31.340 --> 01:44:32.381
and especially the back

01:44:32.421 --> 01:44:33.301
half of last year.

01:44:35.533 --> 01:44:35.733
You know,

01:44:35.773 --> 01:44:39.256
it's not the constant feel of

01:44:39.617 --> 01:44:41.018
when's the other shoe going to drop,

01:44:41.078 --> 01:44:41.318
right?

01:44:41.398 --> 01:44:43.359
I feel like every offseason

01:44:43.500 --> 01:44:46.042
for a good while, all right,

01:44:47.162 --> 01:44:49.125
even if it was a good offseason,

01:44:49.444 --> 01:44:50.865
you always had that dread like,

01:44:51.766 --> 01:44:52.887
When's the shoe going to drop?

01:44:52.967 --> 01:44:54.929
And it dropped just about every offseason,

01:44:54.969 --> 01:44:55.670
right?

01:44:55.729 --> 01:44:56.590
Whether we got all the way

01:44:56.631 --> 01:44:58.612
to the preseason and we get

01:44:58.652 --> 01:45:02.314
an SI article or we worried

01:45:02.354 --> 01:45:04.355
about turkey bacon and all

01:45:04.416 --> 01:45:05.537
sorts of stuff.

01:45:06.176 --> 01:45:07.238
We can talk about the other

01:45:07.257 --> 01:45:08.439
stuff too that was a little

01:45:08.939 --> 01:45:10.000
more concerning than that.

01:45:11.661 --> 01:45:12.020
I mean,

01:45:12.902 --> 01:45:16.625
it's nice to have to feel like your

01:45:17.824 --> 01:45:20.186
team has ran competently.

01:45:20.967 --> 01:45:21.148
Yeah.

01:45:22.301 --> 01:45:23.742
And it's also, you know, like you said,

01:45:23.761 --> 01:45:24.481
the team has ran

01:45:24.542 --> 01:45:26.783
competently and also it's

01:45:26.983 --> 01:45:28.863
great to have star power.

01:45:28.903 --> 01:45:29.804
You know what I'm saying?

01:45:29.823 --> 01:45:31.764
When I look back over us

01:45:31.944 --> 01:45:34.104
interviewing some of these kids, man, how,

01:45:34.706 --> 01:45:35.025
you know,

01:45:35.485 --> 01:45:37.065
they come on and they're very

01:45:37.126 --> 01:45:38.506
professional, you know,

01:45:38.527 --> 01:45:39.947
but then when you look at like Kyron,

01:45:40.006 --> 01:45:40.948
when we're interviewing him,

01:45:41.856 --> 01:45:43.818
He's got all the makings to be a star.

01:45:44.118 --> 01:45:44.859
You know what I'm saying?

01:45:45.259 --> 01:45:46.640
He knows how to speak to the public.

01:45:47.100 --> 01:45:48.761
He knows how to act when he's in public.

01:45:49.002 --> 01:45:50.061
He looks the part.

01:45:50.563 --> 01:45:51.323
You know what I'm saying?

01:45:51.363 --> 01:45:53.864
He's just a phenomenal talent.

01:45:55.286 --> 01:45:56.506
It takes me back to those

01:45:56.567 --> 01:45:59.128
days when we was watching David Wilson.

01:46:00.609 --> 01:46:01.289
You know what I'm saying?

01:46:01.350 --> 01:46:03.331
It takes me back to the days

01:46:03.371 --> 01:46:04.271
when we were watching David

01:46:04.311 --> 01:46:06.052
Wilson on ESPN and they're

01:46:06.073 --> 01:46:06.793
following him around

01:46:06.833 --> 01:46:07.934
driving his old school car

01:46:07.974 --> 01:46:08.654
and stuff like that.

01:46:09.716 --> 01:46:11.596
We ain't been able to see stuff like that.

01:46:13.228 --> 01:46:15.029
around Virginia Tech in a long time,

01:46:15.088 --> 01:46:16.229
for real.

01:46:16.369 --> 01:46:17.591
Even when Gerard was there

01:46:17.951 --> 01:46:19.492
and he was doing his thing,

01:46:19.551 --> 01:46:20.231
we didn't get to see a

01:46:20.271 --> 01:46:21.153
whole bunch of Gerard.

01:46:21.573 --> 01:46:22.434
We didn't get to see a lot

01:46:22.453 --> 01:46:23.574
of interviews with Gerard

01:46:23.614 --> 01:46:24.975
and stuff like that.

01:46:25.435 --> 01:46:26.395
That's because the door was

01:46:26.456 --> 01:46:28.377
closed on the program.

01:46:29.757 --> 01:46:31.439
The door was closed on a

01:46:31.500 --> 01:46:32.840
program where it was some

01:46:32.859 --> 01:46:35.921
of the most loyal fans in the country.

01:46:35.942 --> 01:46:38.644
That door, December 2021,

01:46:38.644 --> 01:46:41.485
it was kicked back open.

01:46:42.563 --> 01:46:43.923
And to the fans' credit,

01:46:43.944 --> 01:46:46.645
we never stopped banging at that door.

01:46:47.104 --> 01:46:47.545
No, we didn't.

01:46:48.386 --> 01:46:48.826
No, we didn't.

01:46:49.626 --> 01:46:51.766
And again, it's the feeling.

01:46:52.608 --> 01:46:53.268
It's the feeling.

01:46:53.608 --> 01:46:54.228
It's the feeling.

01:46:54.247 --> 01:46:54.988
That's what you want.

01:46:56.149 --> 01:46:58.470
I do not know what else we have tonight,

01:46:58.510 --> 01:47:00.291
Brian, because I feel like I'm off.

01:47:00.591 --> 01:47:01.811
Is there anything else on this?

01:47:02.652 --> 01:47:04.073
I think we got everything, man.

01:47:04.092 --> 01:47:04.292
That's...

01:47:06.104 --> 01:47:07.346
That's everything we got

01:47:07.407 --> 01:47:08.208
planned unless you see

01:47:08.269 --> 01:47:09.351
something pop up somewhere

01:47:09.391 --> 01:47:10.373
that we want to talk about.

01:47:10.814 --> 01:47:12.479
I don't mind taking another

01:47:12.538 --> 01:47:13.560
five or ten minutes and

01:47:13.921 --> 01:47:15.305
hashing out anything that's come up.

01:47:15.747 --> 01:47:16.529
Has something come up?

01:47:16.748 --> 01:47:17.670
Did you say that because you

01:47:17.710 --> 01:47:18.350
saw something?

01:47:18.451 --> 01:47:18.711
Oh, no,

01:47:18.751 --> 01:47:20.532
I was asking you if you saw something.

01:47:20.653 --> 01:47:23.175
Oh, I try, but I mean.

01:47:23.194 --> 01:47:24.015
We got to put this in there

01:47:24.036 --> 01:47:25.657
because every time, you know,

01:47:25.676 --> 01:47:26.837
we talk about David Wilson.

01:47:26.858 --> 01:47:27.719
Oh, yeah.

01:47:28.078 --> 01:47:30.220
You gave that poor man PTSD

01:47:30.301 --> 01:47:32.583
tally talking about David Wilson.

01:47:33.543 --> 01:47:35.725
All he ever needs is David

01:47:35.746 --> 01:47:36.926
Wilson running by the

01:47:36.948 --> 01:47:38.048
sideline in high school.

01:47:38.088 --> 01:47:38.509
Not nice.

01:47:39.960 --> 01:47:40.880
Played him three times.

01:47:41.020 --> 01:47:41.761
Three times, Robbie?

01:47:41.940 --> 01:47:42.480
Four times.

01:47:42.940 --> 01:47:44.561
It's like every time he went 200,

01:47:44.561 --> 01:47:45.721
just there he goes.

01:47:46.363 --> 01:47:47.023
Somebody catch him.

01:47:47.042 --> 01:47:48.384
All right, see you later.

01:47:48.564 --> 01:47:49.684
All right.

01:47:49.783 --> 01:47:51.064
I do not see anything else, bro.

01:47:51.085 --> 01:47:52.085
The only thing I saw was I

01:47:52.125 --> 01:47:52.945
looked at the score.

01:47:53.185 --> 01:47:54.645
The Celtics were down three

01:47:54.685 --> 01:47:55.686
with eight seconds left,

01:47:55.726 --> 01:47:57.287
and they won by six in overtime.

01:47:57.807 --> 01:47:58.847
I don't know what happened there.

01:47:58.868 --> 01:48:00.548
I don't either.

01:48:00.748 --> 01:48:01.408
I hate the Celtics.

01:48:01.488 --> 01:48:02.329
I didn't want them to win,

01:48:02.369 --> 01:48:03.010
but it happened.

01:48:03.449 --> 01:48:05.470
Virginia Tech baseball loss, I seen that.

01:48:06.479 --> 01:48:07.740
Played a great Duke team, though.

01:48:07.900 --> 01:48:09.523
Duke's a good baseball team.

01:48:09.542 --> 01:48:10.845
What was the final on that?

01:48:10.925 --> 01:48:11.746
You were watching that before.

01:48:11.765 --> 01:48:12.126
I think it was 11-8.

01:48:12.145 --> 01:48:12.606
11-8, 11-7, one of those.

01:48:16.655 --> 01:48:16.916
Yeah,

01:48:16.935 --> 01:48:18.516
it's at some point you got to not

01:48:18.556 --> 01:48:19.417
allow 11 runs.

01:48:19.757 --> 01:48:19.957
Yeah,

01:48:19.978 --> 01:48:22.238
you can't win as many baseball games

01:48:22.418 --> 01:48:23.259
without 11 runs.

01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:24.079
Yeah.

01:48:25.300 --> 01:48:26.220
Not even Little League.

01:48:27.180 --> 01:48:27.862
Analysis.

01:48:29.381 --> 01:48:30.262
Don't allow 11 runs.

01:48:30.302 --> 01:48:33.704
Don't allow 11 in any form of baseball.

01:48:34.404 --> 01:48:34.625
Right.

01:48:34.645 --> 01:48:35.426
All right.

01:48:35.485 --> 01:48:37.987
Well, boys, what a fun episode again.

01:48:39.231 --> 01:48:41.153
The road ahead is long,

01:48:41.353 --> 01:48:42.934
and the future is bright here.

01:48:43.413 --> 01:48:44.533
We talked about depth.

01:48:45.095 --> 01:48:46.734
We talked about depth about the team.

01:48:46.755 --> 01:48:49.997
16 months ago, BCP got deeper.

01:48:50.856 --> 01:48:52.898
Tally right here with us tonight, Sheldon.

01:48:54.238 --> 01:48:55.639
Sheldon probably in a cave

01:48:55.899 --> 01:48:56.618
doing some work.

01:48:56.639 --> 01:48:57.420
I ain't no telling what he's

01:48:57.439 --> 01:48:58.359
going to come back with,

01:48:58.439 --> 01:48:59.039
but he is going to be

01:48:59.060 --> 01:49:00.520
joining us definitely a few

01:49:00.560 --> 01:49:01.461
times over the summer.

01:49:01.480 --> 01:49:02.402
Right.

01:49:03.871 --> 01:49:06.032
You know, it's awesome, man, because,

01:49:06.551 --> 01:49:07.632
again, we said at the beginning,

01:49:07.672 --> 01:49:09.993
I'll say at the end, Tally, y'all joining,

01:49:11.994 --> 01:49:12.994
it did nothing to make this

01:49:13.034 --> 01:49:13.735
program better.

01:49:14.935 --> 01:49:15.617
Level up, baby.

01:49:15.877 --> 01:49:16.256
Level up.

01:49:16.296 --> 01:49:16.617
Yes, sir.

01:49:16.856 --> 01:49:17.238
Yes, sir.

01:49:17.938 --> 01:49:19.257
Man, it's been a fun ride.

01:49:19.278 --> 01:49:19.998
Been a fun ride.

01:49:20.038 --> 01:49:20.979
Only getting better, man.

01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:21.960
Only getting better.

01:49:22.380 --> 01:49:23.220
Only getting better.

01:49:23.420 --> 01:49:23.720
All right.

01:49:23.780 --> 01:49:25.020
That wraps up this episode

01:49:25.060 --> 01:49:26.082
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01:49:26.122 --> 01:49:27.242
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