This week we welcome on Joe Rogers to cover wrestling ahead of this weekend's ACC Tournament. Also joining us this week is VT Scoop writer and analyst Matej Sis to give us the lowdown on how Virginia Tech's big board looks as we head into the heart of recruiting season for the 2025 class.
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And welcome back to the
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Boundary Corner podcast,
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along with my partners, Brian Seigla,
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Jonathan Talley, and Shelton Moss.
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I am Curtis Wilson.
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And this episode is brought
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to you by the Main Street
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your friendly neighborhood pharmacy,
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Virginia.
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Good to see all four of you,
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three of you boys tonight.
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How's everybody doing on a
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Tuesday in March?
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Well.
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I thought you were going to say tired,
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Sheldon.
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Sheldon got worked over the weekend,
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y'all.
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Yeah, I'm doing fine, though.
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Good news is I'll get to be
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in Tampa this weekend,
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so I'll be basking in the
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sunshine of that warm Florida air.
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So I can't complain too much, man.
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I've been enjoying life.
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Look out for Florida, man.
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Look out for him.
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Yeah, look out for Florida men.
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You might be on the safe side there.
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Tally, what you been up to, man?
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Did y'all tell him to look
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out for Florida man,
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or did you tell him to look
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out for Florida men?
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Florida man.
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Florida man.
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Totally different context there.
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Totally different context.
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I was trying to make sure I
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didn't need to be.
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Maybe all of the above.
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Who knows?
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Yeah, I'm kind of close to Florida.
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I was trying to see what was going on.
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I'd be out of the loop sometimes.
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Doing good, man.
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Doing good.
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Somebody asked me for a
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weekly update of my son.
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He is doing well.
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He started PT last week.
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Couldn't do much PT because
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he's still in his boot,
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but physical therapy
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stretched him out a little bit.
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From what he's told me,
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he goes back to the doctor
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on the 23rd or 25th of this month and
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they'll decide whether he
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comes out of his boot and
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can start kind of resuming activities.
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So he says that once he's
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released from the boot,
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he thinks that he'll
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probably only have to see
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him for probably three
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weeks and he should be good to go.
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Said everything looks strong.
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Everything looks like it's
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going the way it's supposed to go.
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Told him just don't do nothing stupid.
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Don't walk without the boot
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until they tell you.
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And just to let everybody know, no,
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this is not a Clemson hat.
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This is my son and daughter's high school.
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It is Grissom High School.
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So that is a G, not a C.
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Just want to let you know,
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just in case somebody had to ask.
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That's old English G right there.
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That's a dope looking hat.
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Tally said,
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I'm getting ahead of the charges.
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Let me get ahead.
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Man,
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let me go ahead and get this out of here.
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I like that look, man.
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The high school my kids will
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eventually attend starts
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with a G. That's a sick
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looking little hat right there, man.
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So they used to do,
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they're the Grissom Tigers.
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So they used to do a hat
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that looked very similar to
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Clemson's hat.
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Oh, man.
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It was just a tiger paw.
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And when the new coaches came in,
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they were like,
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we need to get away from this.
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There you go.
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Good job.
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They started changing some stuff up.
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It looks much better.
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I like the new stuff that they have.
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Nice.
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All right.
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Well, we got a bunch to unload tonight.
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We have not one,
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but two guests later on joining us.
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Matej says from 247,
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we're going to be talking
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everything recruiting.
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And in just a little while here, Tally,
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I don't have Hunter's last name,
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so I can't give him that credit.
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Hunter.
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I don't even know if he
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wants people to know it.
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Hunter is Joe Rogers.
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That's all we know.
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I don't know if he has a last name.
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He does.
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But Hunter is a huge wrestling aficionado.
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Keeps very big tabs on the program.
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We've got some questions for
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him as we head into ACC
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tournament week with just a
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few weeks away from the national final.
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So we're going to get with him first.
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He's going to be joining us
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momentarily here,
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but let's start it off with
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some boots boys.
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And I didn't get to see it.
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I got texted a few times.
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Why we go on the road and
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blow out somebody?
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Because they're the worst team in the ACC.
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Because it was Louisville.
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Bingo.
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Don't get too excited.
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Notre Dame ain't much better than them,
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and we couldn't go beat their asses.
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Brian, go on.
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I don't even – I'm just
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going to drink while we talk about men.
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I'll let Shel grab on this one.
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Look,
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I know it's always good to get a win.
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You don't take a – you never
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take an ACC road win for granted, but –
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Man, oh man, Louisville's bad.
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Like this,
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this is like the equivalent of
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being like a bad mid-major team.
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I mean, they're just like, they are,
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they're 195th in Kimpom.
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And to put in perspective how bad,
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how bad Kenny Payne has been,
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that's actually like a 100
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spot improvement from what
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they were last year.
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So.
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This is a bad team,
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and I could go into a
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tangent about what a
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disastrous coaching job this is.
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But nonetheless, Hokies,
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I thought they moved the
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ball really well.
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They hit threes, had a lot of open threes.
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They knocked them down,
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shot 45% from three, 48% overall.
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And I thought that they just
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played like they were the better team.
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And looking at the stats,
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out-rebounded them by three,
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had four more assists.
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and 10 steals.
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That's a big one.
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I'm not sure if that's a season high,
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but I bet it's certainly close.
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Obviously, good game.
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Not going to make too much of it,
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but good to finally take
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care of an inferior
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opponent like they should have.
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Finally get a – that's just
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the second road ACC win for
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the Hokies this season?
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Yep, second road win.
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And I was looking at the
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numbers earlier this week.
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I think Tech has like
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something like the second –
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third worst ACC road record
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of the past couple seasons
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and like one of the worst in Power 5.
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So I honestly – I just don't
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know what the solution there is.
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I don't know what's causing it,
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but they just can't play
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well on the road.
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But I'm glad that wasn't the case tonight.
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Tally, anything to add?
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You've been looking down the whole time.
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Tally said he threw away the
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men's team a few weeks ago.
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He's done with them.
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Yeah,
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I threw away a lot of basketball for
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a while.
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The Lakers, too.
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I wasn't watching them either.
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You know,
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the Lakers are trying to do a
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little something.
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They always wait until they get in a pinch,
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and then they want to try
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to fight out of it.
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And, hey,
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let's try to make the playoffs
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and get everybody's hopes up.
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At least we're only three
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games out of the fifth seed.
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So, at least we got, you know,
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it ain't that much ground to make up.
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Right, right, right.
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So, with the –
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Hokies game tonight.
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They had five people in double figures.
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So that's yeah, that's pretty positive.
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I can say, you know,
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to go on the road and you
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got five people in double figures.
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But I guess I want to ask Shelton.
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What what happened to Louisville man?
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Like Louisville basketball
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used to be top tier or close to it.
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What what what is wrong?
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I mean, Kenny Payne happened.
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That's pretty much the simplest answer.
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In fact, the second you said that,
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I'm looking at you right now.
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This is from a rivals guy, I think,
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from Louisville Tiespotting.
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He said a quote from an ACC
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coach that played Louisville this year.
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They're the worst coach team
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we've ever seen.
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We watched their shell drill.
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We watched their shell drill
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before the game,
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and even that was terrible.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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When you watch them play,
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you can tell they don't
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know how to pass the ball.
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They don't know angles.
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They can't really get into
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their offense because they
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just don't know how to set
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it up properly.
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They're helping off shooters
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in the strong side of the court.
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It's just bad, bad basketball.
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So I don't know.
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As far as how he's been so bad,
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I don't know.
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But it's a disastrous coaching job.
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I would say probably...
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One of the worst coaching
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jobs we've seen in college
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sports because Louisville
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is a top 15 program with
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national championships in
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the last 20 or so years.
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They are now the equivalent
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of a crappy mid-major team
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for the last two seasons.
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It's just been mind-boggling.
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they put so much money into
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that program like it's
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insane how much money goes
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into that program there's
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no excuse for them being
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that awful whether it comes
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down to the kenny payne
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hire or anything else uh
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from an infrastructure
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standpoint there's no
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excuse for them to be that
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bad none yeah I've I've
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heard some mixed things
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about their overall
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athletic department health
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but I would I would agree
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with you generally speaking
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that's that you know that's
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a big time brand and
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there's no excuse to be that bad
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Well, I hear you talking, Shelton,
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they can't pass, they can't set up plays.
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Listen,
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I had a 10-year-old playing a 10 –
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11-year-old playing a
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10-11-year-old this year.
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And the first six games were
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brutal because they didn't
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know how to pass.
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They're 10 years old and
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you're telling me these
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guys are collegiate athletes,
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they don't know how to pass?
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That's problems right there.
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Probably something – I mean, I'm assuming,
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Shelton, your opinion,
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this isn't going to be a one-year fix?
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I would say no.
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I mean,
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obviously they'll get rid of him at
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the end of the year.
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But even with the portal, I mean,
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it would probably take, you know,
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two classes.
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I think basketball is a
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sport where it's easier to
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rebuild on the fly.
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So if you hire a good coach
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who can bring his players in, you know,
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that makes it a little bit easier.
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But still, it's probably going to be,
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you know,
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one rebuilding year and then
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maybe the second year they
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can get it turned around.
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But, yeah, they're in a really,
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really deep spot.
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All righty.
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Well, let's flip over now to what was –
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the good field story for
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Hokies this winter,
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and that was the women's
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because they went on the
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unbelievable 10-game win streak,
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get to number five in the
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country after beating UNC,
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took back-to-back losses.
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The Notre Dame loss is fine.
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Notre Dame's a top-15 team.
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You went to their house.
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You took one is what it is.
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The freshman that got us really good.
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She is.
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She is really good.
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I do not know her name,
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but she is really good.
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The doggo.
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Thank you, Sheldon.
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Yeah, Hannah Hidalgo.
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Yeah, she is a dog.
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She is.
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But then, clearly,
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everybody saw Sunday what
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happened with the loss to
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UVA and the injury to Liz Kittley.
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You know,
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I think we've all seen knee injuries.
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I mean, we're all – Sheldon,
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you're the youngest of us here,
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but you've watched a lot of
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sports in your life.
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Until you hear it's good –
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I'm assuming the worst.
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I don't know.
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I don't know if y'all feel any other way,
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but I'm assuming the worst.
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And I hate it because if
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this team doesn't get put
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in South Carolina's bracket
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with Liz Kittley,
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this team can go to the final.
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This team can go to the final four.
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And I'll try to be a little
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positive there.
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So, I mean,
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I'll say something because I
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don't know because it hurts.
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It hurts.
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Somebody said it's the story
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of the Hokies.
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Always.
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Always.
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I don't even – you don't
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even want to think about that.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You don't even want to think about, like,
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all of the – because somebody said,
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you know,
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Hokie's being cursed and things.
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Like,
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I try not to even think about that
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because I think about, like,
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it's – it has nothing to do with us.
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You know what I mean?
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It's all to do with this young lady,
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the work that she's put in.
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She's going to the WNBA.
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She's out there doing what
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she's great at doing.
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She's out there doing what she loves,
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and she goes down.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, I just feel for her.
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And her family,
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and I know it's not a death sentence,
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you know what I'm saying,
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as far as her being hurt.
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But at the same time, she just won, what,
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ACC Player of the Year, right?
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For the third straight time.
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Third time.
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And if that's the last time
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that she gets to suit up
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and she has to go out like that,
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that's horrible for her,
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that that's how she goes out.
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I will say it was very, very non-contact.
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It wasn't like she came down
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and twisted on somebody's foot.
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Like she came down kind of
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on her own and that knee buckled.
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And I mean,
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looking at somebody that's had
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knee problems and knee surgeries,
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it just didn't look good.
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So prayers for her and her family, man.
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I hope that everything, you know, she,
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she can bounce back.
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Even if, if that is it, you know,
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I hope she she's, you know,
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She can bounce back and keep
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moving forward with that.
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You hate for someone who is
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in the same conversation as
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far as impact in their
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individual sport as Michael
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Vick to go out in this fashion.
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Like, so for me, like,
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I know we don't know anything yet.
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I think with Curtis,
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I think we're kind of
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thinking it's going to be the worst.
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But, you know,
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there's still that hope in
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there that she gets to come
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back and kind of finish this thing out,
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this ride out on her own
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terms in some way, shape or form.
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So because... Real question.
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Real question.
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Next level talent.
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Yeah.
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Real question now.
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If that's the last time that
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we see Liz in a...
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Virginia Tech jersey.
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Does that jersey get retired?
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It better.
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It should have already been, I mean,
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if we're being honest.
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I mean,
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it should have went up the last
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home game in Castle, in my opinion.
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All right.
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You heard what Brian had to say.
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Sheldon, you got anything to add on that?
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Sheldon,
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can I ask you this question just
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because you're analytical
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and you think about this shit, man?
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She's not on the team.
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How far can they go?
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How far are they – how good – listen,
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but Sheldon thinks that way, man.
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So Sheldon can give us a good feel on it.
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Obviously, a lot of it depends on seeding.
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You know, if you're a four seed,
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you've got to play the five
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in the round of 32.
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That's going to be difficult.
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But I still think they could
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get to the Sweet 16 without her.
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Realistically, that's probably the ceiling,
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I think.
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Just because, I mean, again,
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it depends on what,
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if they get a two seed, if they, you know,
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stick them to two seed.
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Okay.
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That's, that's a lot better if it's a four,
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which I think could happen depending on,
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you know,
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if they say they lose in the
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first round or the semifinals,
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like that could happen.
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And the committee is like, Oh, well,
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we don't know if she's healthy.
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You know,
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that's going to be a lot more difficult,
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but I still think they
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could with the talent they have,
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they could still get to the sweet 16,
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but that's probably,
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that'd probably be the
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ceiling without her in my opinion.
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Yeah, I mean, my thought was, you know,
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best case scenario,
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if it's like an MCL sprain or something,
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if they can get out of the first weekend,
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she might have a chance to
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get back on the floor and, you know,
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see what that knee can do
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and kind of go from there.
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But, yeah, I'm kind of with you.
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I think getting out of that
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first weekend is probably
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the ceiling without her.
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You know, a lot of it, like you said,
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is going to depend on seating,
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especially that kind of first round game.
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Well, you know,
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the sad part about it is
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I'm looking down here on my phone.
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The sad part about it was
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the way her and Strack were
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starting to play.
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They were gelling together.
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And you think about those are what?
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Liz is 6'6".
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Strack's what, 6'4 1⁄2"?
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She's not small by any means.
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Claire Strack is.
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That there would not be many
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teams in the tournament
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when that set went out
00:16:39.687 --> 00:16:40.427
there that could have
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anywhere near the size.
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near the size.
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I know South Carolina is a physical team.
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I don't think they have that
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size like that.
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So that's what sucks because
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we started seeing them play
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more and more together over
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the past few weeks.
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And it was like, man,
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you get them on the floor together.
00:16:54.837 --> 00:16:55.678
Like what can you do?
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Cause if they play double,
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you play that double post game.
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It's like, what are you going to do?
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You're going to double both
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of them and leave King and
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you only have a more wide open.
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You ain't going to do that.
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Um,
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it just sucks because I think we all
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felt throughout this season
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was this was a legitimate
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national championship
00:17:14.907 --> 00:17:16.148
contender with the way the
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team was composed.
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And in the last six weeks,
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we felt even better about
00:17:21.550 --> 00:17:23.211
it because when they had
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that 10 game win streak,
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beating good competition,
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winning away games,
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winning at sites where it
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is a little tough to play.
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It's like,
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If that catches right at the right time,
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because the losses don't hurt.
00:17:34.757 --> 00:17:35.977
Because there's a lot of times you see,
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like,
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let's get the losses out of the system.
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Let's get that feeling.
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Brian, you and Tally play.
00:17:41.621 --> 00:17:42.602
Let's get that feeling of
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losing a game under our skin.
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So when we get in that game
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and it's 50-50 going into
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the fourth quarter,
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we don't want to lose this game.
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You know how it felt after
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Notre Dame and UVA?
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Screw that.
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We don't want that shit.
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We don't want that.
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Yeah, you want to get it out.
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You want to get those out
00:18:00.931 --> 00:18:01.892
before the tournament
00:18:01.912 --> 00:18:03.794
because when it comes to tournament time,
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that's when I go home.
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So, you know,
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I ain't saying the games don't count.
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But, you know, in that situation,
00:18:08.938 --> 00:18:10.838
you had already secured the
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regular season ACC championship.
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And, you know,
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you already got your double by.
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You want to get that.
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If you're going to lose.
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That's the best time to lose is there.
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All righty.
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What is the wrestling man looking like,
00:18:26.971 --> 00:18:27.172
man?
00:18:28.789 --> 00:18:30.251
Should be hopping on here in
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just a second.
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He's hopping on now.
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Good deal.
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By the way,
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I just want everybody to look
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at my cool glass here.
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Y'all see this?
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I see what you got there.
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You see that?
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Y'all see that?
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That is effectively a map of
00:18:46.006 --> 00:18:47.306
campus my wonderful wife
00:18:47.365 --> 00:18:48.787
gave me for Valentine's Day.
00:18:49.267 --> 00:18:50.326
And it's funny, I look on here,
00:18:50.366 --> 00:18:52.048
you can't find Lane Stadium anywhere,
00:18:52.749 --> 00:18:54.469
but you can find the stadium woods.
00:18:55.210 --> 00:18:56.450
You can find Merriman.
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So I'm wondering,
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do you have to buy the
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rights to Lane to put it on
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your cool glass?
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By the way,
00:19:04.673 --> 00:19:06.193
small batch Evan Williams right here,
00:19:06.253 --> 00:19:07.494
if y'all wondering what's in it.
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Hey, that's a good Tuesday.
00:19:11.617 --> 00:19:13.278
Got a nice cup,
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getting some brownie points
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because you're plugging your wife.
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Pause.
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My wife also went out to
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dinner with some colleagues
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of hers tonight,
00:19:22.821 --> 00:19:24.843
so I could put the littlest
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one down and the middle one
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down before she got home.
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You're doing good.
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You're doing real good.
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I'm going to also plug something,
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but this ain't got nothing.
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This right here,
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anybody who has kids that
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play basketball and you get on TikTok...
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This is a silent basketball.
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Shut up.
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Yes.
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This is what you were...
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Bounce it on your desk there.
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I need to see it.
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Harley, no noise.
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That's on the floor.
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That ain't much noise.
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That's on the floor.
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You got, Harley, no noise from this thing.
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I'm telling you, if you got kids... I do.
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I'd like to.
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I'm supposed to bounce it in
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the basement all the time.
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It was like...
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I don't know, maybe $15.
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$15.
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I would take a look at silent basketball.
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Silent basketball.
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I'll take it.
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Because you go to the NCAA, and, man, oh,
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God.
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They get your head going right there.
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They get your head going right there.
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It ain't even a joke.
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Yep.
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Fun.
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Yeah, I got the hoop in the court there,
00:20:36.573 --> 00:20:37.894
so that's usually where I stay.
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So a little extra sound from
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the ball don't really hurt
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nobody out there.
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You've seen the setup here at the house,
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Brian.
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We got a full court.
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It don't matter up there,
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but he likes... Hey, listen.
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I saw my son grow as a player this year.
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He had a lot of fun playing basketball.
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Kid knows what to do with basketball.
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Yeah.
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All righty.
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Let's roll this man on.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we got our
00:21:10.309 --> 00:21:11.710
Wrestling expert tonight,
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Joe Hunter Rogers.
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Joe, how you doing, buddy?
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I'm good, fellas.
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How y'all doing tonight?
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Good, man.
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Good.
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You been getting any sleep?
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Zero sleep, man.
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I just made another baby run
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to the pharmacy.
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Had to get formula.
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All right, fun.
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You got three dads here, Joe.
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I got three.
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Tally got two.
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Brian got one.
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Here's the rule.
00:21:35.295 --> 00:21:37.736
When that baby sleeps, you sleep.
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I don't care if it's
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3 in the afternoon.
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I don't care if it's 5 in the morning.
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That thing decides to zonk
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out and just say, fuck the bullshit.
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I'm going to bed right now.
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I'm getting at least a half hour in, man.
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Give me something.
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Get the sleep in when you can.
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I'm learning.
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I'm learning.
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I'm new at this.
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Well, just listen,
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it takes a village and I'm
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sure you got friends and
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family give you all the
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advice that they can.
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And trust me,
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it's it's it ain't no better
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feeling than it.
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I'll tell you that much right now.
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Again, other three here.
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All right, well, let's get into it, man,
00:22:16.144 --> 00:22:18.346
because we know how big of a wrestling,
00:22:18.405 --> 00:22:19.946
hokey wrestling fan you are.
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And we got a lot of
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questions we want to ask you.
00:22:22.450 --> 00:22:23.470
And Tally just went off camera.
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We lost him, Jesus Christ.
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All right,
00:22:25.531 --> 00:22:27.253
but I'm going to start this one out.
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Sheldon, Brian,
00:22:28.454 --> 00:22:28.996
and Tally are going to
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throw some questions in here.
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So 2024 season expectations.
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I mean, for this team, it was pretty high.
00:22:35.701 --> 00:22:37.403
Great finish last year in 2023.
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A lot of guys coming back.
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Teams currently ranked 13th
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in a lot of the polls,
00:22:42.564 --> 00:22:44.585
9-4 record overall.
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In your opinion,
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has this team overachieved, underachieved,
00:22:49.909 --> 00:22:51.530
or from your expectations,
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achieved about where they should?
00:22:54.613 --> 00:22:55.874
I'm going to say with the
00:22:55.953 --> 00:22:57.895
circumstances about where they should,
00:22:58.695 --> 00:22:59.416
sometimes it's been a
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little underachieving.
00:23:00.758 --> 00:23:02.098
We've had some injury issues.
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125, the plan was for Eddie Ventresca.
00:23:06.781 --> 00:23:08.243
I mean, he's a returning All-American.
00:23:08.263 --> 00:23:10.045
The plan was for him to come back
00:23:11.144 --> 00:23:12.125
Give Cooper Flynn,
00:23:12.525 --> 00:23:14.046
who's ranked fourth in the nation,
00:23:14.626 --> 00:23:16.208
but give him his Olympic
00:23:16.288 --> 00:23:18.289
red shirt and then let them develop.
00:23:18.670 --> 00:23:19.170
So that way,
00:23:19.371 --> 00:23:20.351
one of them is going to end up
00:23:20.391 --> 00:23:22.373
going up to 133 at some point eventually.
00:23:23.294 --> 00:23:25.414
So Eddie gets hurt early in the year.
00:23:26.076 --> 00:23:27.317
He's never looked right.
00:23:27.936 --> 00:23:29.038
Lost some matches to guys
00:23:29.057 --> 00:23:29.959
that normally wouldn't.
00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:32.701
They had to pull Cooper Flynn's red shirt,
00:23:33.362 --> 00:23:34.583
bring him back after he
00:23:34.643 --> 00:23:37.345
wrestled a tournament over in Croatia,
00:23:38.465 --> 00:23:38.586
and
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Throw him into the lineup.
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It's a different style of
00:23:41.054 --> 00:23:41.713
wrestling as well.
00:23:42.434 --> 00:23:43.515
Olympic wrestling.
00:23:44.015 --> 00:23:45.056
It's mostly freestyles,
00:23:45.096 --> 00:23:46.195
what Cooper Flynn was doing.
00:23:46.977 --> 00:23:48.717
So we've had a couple of
00:23:48.757 --> 00:23:50.337
those circumstances where it's like, man,
00:23:50.397 --> 00:23:52.439
I really can't put that on
00:23:52.659 --> 00:23:55.559
my original expectations for the year.
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.560
141,
00:23:57.560 --> 00:23:59.541
they had kind of planned on
00:24:00.122 --> 00:24:01.563
redshirting Tom Crook as well.
00:24:03.064 --> 00:24:04.023
That didn't work out either.
00:24:05.053 --> 00:24:07.034
Matt Church, a couple of the other guys,
00:24:07.173 --> 00:24:07.693
Hunter Mason,
00:24:07.713 --> 00:24:10.575
they tried to step in and it didn't work.
00:24:10.595 --> 00:24:12.155
We had to pull another red shirt there.
00:24:13.056 --> 00:24:15.717
And then if you go to 157, Bryce Andonian,
00:24:16.537 --> 00:24:18.057
the most electric guy in the country.
00:24:18.478 --> 00:24:19.458
He's been hurt all year for
00:24:19.478 --> 00:24:21.298
the second year in a row.
00:24:22.719 --> 00:24:23.940
And you get to that point,
00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:25.720
that's three out of ten weight classes.
00:24:26.721 --> 00:24:28.340
That's 30% of your roster
00:24:28.361 --> 00:24:29.842
that you've had issues with,
00:24:30.221 --> 00:24:32.403
injuries and circumstances
00:24:32.423 --> 00:24:33.303
that you can't control.
00:24:33.323 --> 00:24:33.363
So
00:24:34.038 --> 00:24:34.940
I think they've bounced back.
00:24:35.259 --> 00:24:36.240
I think they've hung in there.
00:24:36.260 --> 00:24:37.882
They've responded.
00:24:39.403 --> 00:24:39.644
Nice.
00:24:40.865 --> 00:24:41.905
Thanks for the explaining
00:24:41.965 --> 00:24:43.166
with the Cooper Flynn thing
00:24:43.207 --> 00:24:44.948
because I remember, Eddie,
00:24:44.968 --> 00:24:45.828
from last year when I
00:24:45.848 --> 00:24:47.210
looked up Cooper being four,
00:24:47.269 --> 00:24:48.351
it was just like, wait a second,
00:24:48.892 --> 00:24:50.173
Cooper's a young guy.
00:24:50.232 --> 00:24:51.894
Hey, that's impressive for him.
00:24:53.215 --> 00:24:54.016
But, again,
00:24:54.576 --> 00:24:55.857
you follow it closer than we do.
00:24:55.877 --> 00:24:57.098
That's why we love having you on.
00:24:57.138 --> 00:24:58.680
Brian, Shelton, y'all got anything?
00:24:58.700 --> 00:24:59.941
Anybody want to jump in for
00:24:59.961 --> 00:25:00.541
the next one here?
00:25:01.163 --> 00:25:02.565
Yeah, I think the big thing for me, like,
00:25:02.625 --> 00:25:04.065
you know, we know about Makai.
00:25:04.085 --> 00:25:05.006
We know about Caleb.
00:25:05.746 --> 00:25:06.586
Let's kind of take them out
00:25:06.606 --> 00:25:07.426
of the conversation.
00:25:07.467 --> 00:25:08.186
What are some other guys
00:25:08.227 --> 00:25:09.428
that have kind of wowed you this year?
00:25:10.989 --> 00:25:12.449
Ooh, there's a few.
00:25:13.269 --> 00:25:14.951
I mean, one of them, it's T.J.
00:25:14.971 --> 00:25:16.391
Stewart at 184.
00:25:17.051 --> 00:25:17.352
I mean,
00:25:17.451 --> 00:25:19.012
even if you look at the 184 weight class,
00:25:19.093 --> 00:25:20.413
it took kind of that first
00:25:20.432 --> 00:25:21.534
semester to get T.J.
00:25:21.594 --> 00:25:21.773
right.
00:25:21.794 --> 00:25:22.753
He redshirted last year.
00:25:23.595 --> 00:25:24.375
But it's T.J.
00:25:24.414 --> 00:25:24.734
Stewart.
00:25:24.775 --> 00:25:27.416
He is Makai Lewis-esque at 184.
00:25:29.163 --> 00:25:30.304
And he is so electric.
00:25:30.324 --> 00:25:31.824
You just saw he beat a top
00:25:31.824 --> 00:25:33.924
10 ranked guy back-to-back matches.
00:25:34.525 --> 00:25:35.285
And it's so hard.
00:25:35.325 --> 00:25:36.484
Wrestling is so hard to beat
00:25:36.724 --> 00:25:37.944
somebody that's somewhat
00:25:37.986 --> 00:25:39.766
level with you twice in a row,
00:25:40.405 --> 00:25:41.465
much less beat him like you did.
00:25:41.486 --> 00:25:42.786
Beat him back-to-back.
00:25:42.826 --> 00:25:45.186
Beat him in his home place at NC State.
00:25:45.886 --> 00:25:47.047
Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
00:25:47.086 --> 00:25:50.028
So TJ Stewart, he's real impressive.
00:25:51.028 --> 00:25:52.107
Another one that they were
00:25:52.147 --> 00:25:53.327
kind of looking at too,
00:25:53.807 --> 00:25:54.867
from what I understand,
00:25:54.948 --> 00:25:56.689
is Sammy Sassa at 197.
00:25:56.689 --> 00:25:58.409
He's got a few flashes.
00:25:59.477 --> 00:26:01.357
but you know he hasn't got
00:26:01.377 --> 00:26:02.617
the starting job yet it's
00:26:02.657 --> 00:26:03.438
probably going to be a next
00:26:03.458 --> 00:26:05.699
year thing and then he
00:26:05.739 --> 00:26:08.940
believes up he is a judo
00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:11.701
wizard you know he's big on
00:26:11.740 --> 00:26:13.842
the throws he's filled in
00:26:14.122 --> 00:26:15.603
at 65 he's filled in at 57
00:26:15.603 --> 00:26:16.762
so like that's another guy
00:26:16.803 --> 00:26:18.403
that I think is eventually
00:26:18.423 --> 00:26:19.284
down the road going to be
00:26:19.324 --> 00:26:20.703
really electric for us he's
00:26:20.723 --> 00:26:22.365
going to be another andonian almost
00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:24.340
Can I ask this?
00:26:24.621 --> 00:26:25.561
I don't have this on here,
00:26:25.622 --> 00:26:27.201
but when you're mentioning
00:26:27.241 --> 00:26:28.442
some of these guys filling in,
00:26:29.182 --> 00:26:29.982
what does that make you
00:26:30.002 --> 00:26:31.083
feel like is the program
00:26:31.123 --> 00:26:32.563
where there's guys filling
00:26:32.624 --> 00:26:33.983
in that are winning matches,
00:26:34.044 --> 00:26:35.523
that are carrying the torch on?
00:26:36.365 --> 00:26:38.325
Does that say we're getting
00:26:38.424 --> 00:26:40.945
to the next echelon of a
00:26:40.986 --> 00:26:41.425
wrestling program?
00:26:41.445 --> 00:26:41.685
Yes.
00:26:42.226 --> 00:26:42.506
Okay.
00:26:42.586 --> 00:26:43.145
Absolutely.
00:26:43.465 --> 00:26:44.626
You see Penn State do that.
00:26:45.727 --> 00:26:47.086
You start stacking depth that way,
00:26:47.387 --> 00:26:48.048
just like football.
00:26:48.367 --> 00:26:48.788
You know, Brian –
00:26:49.521 --> 00:26:50.021
Played football.
00:26:50.061 --> 00:26:51.462
He understands playing college ball.
00:26:51.903 --> 00:26:53.144
Same thing at the college level,
00:26:53.183 --> 00:26:54.244
you start stacking depth
00:26:54.964 --> 00:26:56.066
and it's really hard to do
00:26:56.145 --> 00:26:57.286
in wrestling because you
00:26:57.326 --> 00:26:59.627
only get nine scholarships for 10 slots.
00:26:59.647 --> 00:27:04.130
So you're really relying on now NIL, but,
00:27:04.230 --> 00:27:06.070
uh, the SCRTC as well.
00:27:06.632 --> 00:27:07.592
And Tony Roby has done a
00:27:07.791 --> 00:27:08.813
really good job of
00:27:08.873 --> 00:27:10.594
developing that so we can
00:27:10.614 --> 00:27:11.673
get other guys money.
00:27:12.375 --> 00:27:13.255
Uh, one of the problems though,
00:27:13.275 --> 00:27:14.496
that we have in Virginia.
00:27:15.479 --> 00:27:16.559
is air walls are different
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.942
so nc state has a huge
00:27:18.981 --> 00:27:20.502
advantage because
00:27:20.742 --> 00:27:22.624
out-of-state athletes can
00:27:22.683 --> 00:27:24.486
get in-state tuition there
00:27:25.707 --> 00:27:27.887
so they're paying like you
00:27:27.907 --> 00:27:29.950
know half or maybe a third
00:27:30.009 --> 00:27:32.791
in their instance for scholarship money
00:27:33.226 --> 00:27:34.767
So they can get guys more
00:27:34.807 --> 00:27:35.626
bang for their buck.
00:27:36.067 --> 00:27:37.228
So we're also fighting that
00:27:37.288 --> 00:27:38.688
battle being in Virginia.
00:27:38.708 --> 00:27:40.328
Aaron Rouse, if you're listening,
00:27:40.348 --> 00:27:41.368
please change that for us.
00:27:43.089 --> 00:27:44.871
You know what?
00:27:45.371 --> 00:27:48.592
There was some motion in the Senate,
00:27:48.672 --> 00:27:49.833
in the House there,
00:27:49.893 --> 00:27:51.713
and it's kind of stalled.
00:27:51.733 --> 00:27:52.653
I haven't heard a whole lot
00:27:52.713 --> 00:27:54.595
from it in the last six to eight months,
00:27:54.615 --> 00:27:56.175
but there was a big push, I think,
00:27:56.215 --> 00:27:56.935
about a year ago.
00:27:57.701 --> 00:27:59.123
or a little over a year ago
00:27:59.182 --> 00:28:00.644
to get that moving.
00:28:00.663 --> 00:28:02.845
It's been a hang-up.
00:28:02.904 --> 00:28:04.365
I know it's probably not a priority,
00:28:04.425 --> 00:28:06.528
especially in an election
00:28:06.548 --> 00:28:07.509
year and all this bullshit.
00:28:08.709 --> 00:28:09.789
That's why it's so hard in
00:28:09.809 --> 00:28:10.971
stack depth in wrestling.
00:28:11.371 --> 00:28:12.491
There's only a few schools
00:28:12.511 --> 00:28:13.511
that can really do it.
00:28:13.573 --> 00:28:14.833
It's like your top four.
00:28:15.314 --> 00:28:17.154
Ohio State, they can do it,
00:28:17.295 --> 00:28:18.576
but they're not elite at it.
00:28:18.675 --> 00:28:19.395
They're here and there.
00:28:20.217 --> 00:28:21.478
Penn State, they're number one.
00:28:21.498 --> 00:28:22.699
They have been for a long time.
00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:23.939
They've got some injuries.
00:28:23.959 --> 00:28:24.779
I'll talk about that in a minute.
00:28:25.628 --> 00:28:26.630
And that's why this helps them.
00:28:27.170 --> 00:28:28.872
But Penn State, obviously, I mean,
00:28:28.892 --> 00:28:29.612
you'll see them get the
00:28:29.652 --> 00:28:31.093
number one recruit and
00:28:31.113 --> 00:28:31.973
they're able to just like
00:28:32.213 --> 00:28:34.596
stack him right underneath the starter,
00:28:34.997 --> 00:28:36.438
which most places that
00:28:36.458 --> 00:28:38.058
guy's not going to go and sit.
00:28:38.098 --> 00:28:39.140
He's going to want to go start.
00:28:39.700 --> 00:28:41.521
And then Iowa, that's your other big one.
00:28:41.942 --> 00:28:42.702
You're going to see guys.
00:28:43.242 --> 00:28:45.605
Iowa has crazy money for
00:28:45.644 --> 00:28:46.605
their wrestling program.
00:28:47.205 --> 00:28:47.747
It's absurd.
00:28:49.028 --> 00:28:49.307
Wow.
00:28:49.367 --> 00:28:50.548
That was that all as well.
00:28:52.141 --> 00:28:53.121
I mean, that takes it, though.
00:28:53.141 --> 00:28:54.902
I mean, Iowa has been good.
00:28:54.922 --> 00:28:55.961
I mean, I'm 40.
00:28:56.642 --> 00:28:58.501
To me, I can still remember as a kid,
00:28:58.561 --> 00:28:59.742
Iowa's been good for 30, 40,
00:28:59.742 --> 00:29:01.563
close to 50 years.
00:29:01.623 --> 00:29:03.282
It's a great program.
00:29:04.723 --> 00:29:05.523
Let me ask this,
00:29:05.544 --> 00:29:06.403
because you mentioned Bryce
00:29:06.463 --> 00:29:07.723
Adonia a little while ago
00:29:07.743 --> 00:29:08.544
with the injury.
00:29:08.864 --> 00:29:10.184
And has anyone else taken
00:29:10.244 --> 00:29:11.785
step backs this year in your eyes?
00:29:11.944 --> 00:29:15.405
And when that happens in wrestling, why?
00:29:15.746 --> 00:29:16.445
Like, you know,
00:29:16.965 --> 00:29:18.205
Brian's talked about football,
00:29:18.226 --> 00:29:20.186
that sometimes it's just guys growing,
00:29:20.207 --> 00:29:20.807
developing.
00:29:22.041 --> 00:29:23.202
they don't go as fast.
00:29:23.282 --> 00:29:24.042
Is that the same in
00:29:24.083 --> 00:29:25.584
wrestling or is it different things?
00:29:26.644 --> 00:29:27.224
Absolutely.
00:29:27.305 --> 00:29:28.865
And I think part of it's wrestling,
00:29:28.905 --> 00:29:29.746
such a mental sport.
00:29:30.686 --> 00:29:32.428
So when your body grows as well,
00:29:32.468 --> 00:29:33.167
if you start getting to
00:29:33.188 --> 00:29:34.528
where you have a really hard weight cut,
00:29:35.650 --> 00:29:36.670
it drains you.
00:29:37.131 --> 00:29:38.932
And then you might be okay.
00:29:38.951 --> 00:29:39.791
You might think your body's
00:29:39.832 --> 00:29:40.633
right and it's not.
00:29:41.192 --> 00:29:43.473
So it's really hard to find that balance.
00:29:44.234 --> 00:29:46.316
So that development with wrestling,
00:29:46.355 --> 00:29:48.176
it's kind of, it's kind of like football,
00:29:48.196 --> 00:29:49.657
but the way I like to say it,
00:29:49.938 --> 00:29:51.358
think about like when you tear your ACL,
00:29:52.355 --> 00:29:53.195
it's really hard to bounce
00:29:53.236 --> 00:29:54.557
back and get to the level that you're at.
00:29:55.178 --> 00:29:57.319
So when you have a setback, it's,
00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:58.361
it's a mental thing.
00:29:58.881 --> 00:30:00.102
It's mentally being ready,
00:30:00.823 --> 00:30:01.844
being able to get back out
00:30:01.864 --> 00:30:03.726
on the mat and get back to that level.
00:30:03.766 --> 00:30:04.826
You're fighting yourself as
00:30:04.886 --> 00:30:06.468
much as you are wrestling the other guy.
00:30:07.269 --> 00:30:08.430
So who's done it this year?
00:30:08.490 --> 00:30:10.031
Who has taken that step back?
00:30:10.071 --> 00:30:12.574
Who is, I won't say disappointed you,
00:30:12.614 --> 00:30:13.174
but like,
00:30:14.124 --> 00:30:15.084
they've got to get over that
00:30:15.183 --> 00:30:16.305
hurdle at least next year,
00:30:16.345 --> 00:30:17.404
because what you mentioned
00:30:17.484 --> 00:30:18.244
earlier about we're,
00:30:18.484 --> 00:30:19.465
we're feeling backed up
00:30:19.506 --> 00:30:21.506
where if you're not good enough next year,
00:30:21.926 --> 00:30:22.567
you're not going to be the
00:30:22.606 --> 00:30:23.487
guy in that weight class.
00:30:24.326 --> 00:30:24.547
Yeah.
00:30:25.048 --> 00:30:26.627
We've had a couple of guys, Andy Smith.
00:30:27.647 --> 00:30:28.548
He took a step back.
00:30:28.868 --> 00:30:30.628
He actually laid out a
00:30:30.689 --> 00:30:32.650
really bad performance against NC state.
00:30:33.150 --> 00:30:34.750
He ended up getting tech fog,
00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:36.590
gave a bunch of bonus points,
00:30:36.611 --> 00:30:37.451
which is critical in a
00:30:37.491 --> 00:30:38.471
tight duel like that.
00:30:39.231 --> 00:30:40.491
Andy Smith, he took a step back.
00:30:40.511 --> 00:30:41.833
We didn't think that was going to happen.
00:30:42.539 --> 00:30:44.080
And then another guy is Hunter Kafka.
00:30:44.740 --> 00:30:45.662
We saw Jimmy Mullins
00:30:45.721 --> 00:30:48.503
actually wrestle at NC State.
00:30:48.523 --> 00:30:49.763
He does football and wrestling.
00:30:50.184 --> 00:30:50.845
He's going to have to make a
00:30:50.884 --> 00:30:51.685
choice at one point.
00:30:52.306 --> 00:30:53.787
I think Tony Roby's actually said that.
00:30:54.547 --> 00:30:56.588
So he's got a guy on his heels,
00:30:56.969 --> 00:30:58.130
and Hunter Kafka's kind of
00:30:58.269 --> 00:31:01.352
that guy that's such a big-name recruit.
00:31:01.771 --> 00:31:03.053
Kind of like Connor Brady, too.
00:31:03.093 --> 00:31:04.673
He's kind of hit a wall at 165.
00:31:05.013 --> 00:31:06.194
He's plateaued and never
00:31:06.255 --> 00:31:07.315
been able to get over that.
00:31:07.836 --> 00:31:09.696
They kept thinking when he came in, like,
00:31:09.717 --> 00:31:10.557
this guy can develop.
00:31:10.656 --> 00:31:11.458
He'll be really good.
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:13.638
never really been able to
00:31:13.659 --> 00:31:14.578
get over that wall.
00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:18.079
So you got those three guys and Brady,
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:18.579
you know,
00:31:18.619 --> 00:31:20.059
he's got Hippolyta now pushing
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.201
them for his spot as well.
00:31:21.861 --> 00:31:23.661
But Kafka is one that's just,
00:31:24.101 --> 00:31:25.221
it's kind of disappointing in a way.
00:31:25.301 --> 00:31:26.461
Cause he was such a big
00:31:26.521 --> 00:31:28.241
recruit that we thought we
00:31:28.261 --> 00:31:30.082
had finally got heavyweight figured out.
00:31:30.123 --> 00:31:31.182
Cause we had a long period
00:31:31.222 --> 00:31:32.823
where that was a really weak spot for us.
00:31:33.403 --> 00:31:35.042
So we recruited hard, recruited hard.
00:31:35.963 --> 00:31:36.364
And I mean,
00:31:36.963 --> 00:31:38.463
now we got Mullins that we got
00:31:38.503 --> 00:31:39.443
another guy in the works as
00:31:39.483 --> 00:31:42.325
well with him behind Kafka and
00:31:43.737 --> 00:31:44.857
Those are our three spots
00:31:44.897 --> 00:31:46.358
where guys have kind of not
00:31:46.398 --> 00:31:47.459
got to that next step that
00:31:47.538 --> 00:31:48.259
we thought they would.
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:49.740
But we're fortunate enough
00:31:50.221 --> 00:31:51.280
that the staff's done well.
00:31:51.602 --> 00:31:52.721
They've put a good game plan
00:31:52.741 --> 00:31:53.923
in to try and make a run
00:31:54.242 --> 00:31:55.104
and get us to that next
00:31:55.144 --> 00:31:56.684
level that we got guys that
00:31:56.704 --> 00:31:57.964
are young guys, freshmen,
00:31:58.244 --> 00:31:59.205
true freshmen that are
00:31:59.246 --> 00:32:00.186
coming for their spots now
00:32:00.287 --> 00:32:00.906
right on their heels.
00:32:01.586 --> 00:32:01.788
Nice.
00:32:02.307 --> 00:32:02.528
Sheldon,
00:32:02.548 --> 00:32:04.009
I know you got one you want to ask here.
00:32:04.780 --> 00:32:06.922
Yeah, well, I had to ask about the man,
00:32:06.981 --> 00:32:08.522
the myth, the legend, Makai Lewis.
00:32:09.103 --> 00:32:09.442
Obviously,
00:32:09.462 --> 00:32:10.483
we know he's one of the best in
00:32:10.503 --> 00:32:11.664
the country at his weight class.
00:32:12.105 --> 00:32:13.526
How impressive has he been this year?
00:32:13.605 --> 00:32:14.145
And what do you think are
00:32:14.165 --> 00:32:15.226
the odds are that he can
00:32:15.266 --> 00:32:16.126
win that second national
00:32:16.146 --> 00:32:17.186
title that's eluded him for
00:32:17.207 --> 00:32:17.827
a few years now?
00:32:18.607 --> 00:32:18.807
Well,
00:32:18.988 --> 00:32:20.769
it's funny you bring that up because
00:32:20.808 --> 00:32:22.329
his odds just shot up.
00:32:22.930 --> 00:32:24.830
A kid from Penn State that
00:32:24.851 --> 00:32:25.791
seems to be his arch
00:32:25.852 --> 00:32:27.053
nemesis and have his number,
00:32:27.133 --> 00:32:27.932
Carter Storocci.
00:32:28.813 --> 00:32:30.094
He might have just torn his ACL.
00:32:30.954 --> 00:32:31.315
He was...
00:32:32.215 --> 00:32:34.336
They had senior night at Penn State.
00:32:34.717 --> 00:32:35.917
He was going for the pin.
00:32:35.958 --> 00:32:36.718
He could have tech followed
00:32:36.758 --> 00:32:38.378
the kid from Rutgers easily.
00:32:39.460 --> 00:32:40.200
Tried to get cute.
00:32:40.601 --> 00:32:41.340
Went for the pin.
00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:43.821
Got stuck in a funky little roll.
00:32:44.142 --> 00:32:45.363
His knee got caught up under him.
00:32:46.384 --> 00:32:47.263
And it looks like he's going
00:32:47.284 --> 00:32:48.805
to weigh in and forfeit at
00:32:48.845 --> 00:32:49.765
the Big Ten tournament.
00:32:50.726 --> 00:32:51.566
Roach is number one.
00:32:52.027 --> 00:32:52.686
Ranked number one.
00:32:53.426 --> 00:32:53.907
He's out.
00:32:54.627 --> 00:32:55.769
Most likely he is out.
00:32:56.628 --> 00:32:58.049
Everybody else that's in the weight class,
00:32:58.250 --> 00:32:59.151
Mekhi Lewis is beat.
00:32:59.871 --> 00:33:01.511
So his odds just shot up.
00:33:03.463 --> 00:33:04.704
But as far as impressive goes,
00:33:05.204 --> 00:33:06.506
Makai's incredibly impressive.
00:33:06.885 --> 00:33:07.806
He's only been taken down
00:33:08.026 --> 00:33:09.826
six times in his entire career.
00:33:11.188 --> 00:33:13.409
That is pretty much unheard of.
00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:15.089
Of those six times,
00:33:15.369 --> 00:33:16.510
pretty much all been the same guy,
00:33:16.711 --> 00:33:17.571
and now he's gone.
00:33:18.932 --> 00:33:20.813
But I think one of the challenges- Yeah,
00:33:20.913 --> 00:33:22.233
I don't like nobody being hurt,
00:33:22.294 --> 00:33:23.335
but I mean,
00:33:23.474 --> 00:33:24.714
if you keep losing to the same
00:33:24.734 --> 00:33:25.736
guy and you ain't gotta fight him,
00:33:25.855 --> 00:33:27.396
I guess that's pretty good.
00:33:28.176 --> 00:33:29.478
Makes your life a lot easier.
00:33:30.083 --> 00:33:31.483
Makes your life a little bit easier.
00:33:32.204 --> 00:33:33.566
The second title eluding him,
00:33:33.625 --> 00:33:34.487
I think some of that was
00:33:34.547 --> 00:33:35.527
going up a weight class.
00:33:36.488 --> 00:33:39.009
The title he won was at 165,
00:33:39.009 --> 00:33:40.090
and then he decided to go up to 174.
00:33:40.090 --> 00:33:42.373
It kind of takes a little
00:33:42.432 --> 00:33:43.973
bit for your body to grow
00:33:44.114 --> 00:33:45.996
in to nine more pounds of
00:33:46.076 --> 00:33:48.258
mass with cutting and
00:33:48.317 --> 00:33:49.699
figuring out that speed and
00:33:49.739 --> 00:33:50.599
strength combination
00:33:50.619 --> 00:33:53.501
because he was incredibly strong at 165.
00:33:53.501 --> 00:33:55.844
So if anybody's got a shot, he's the guy.
00:33:56.383 --> 00:33:57.423
I really want him to get it.
00:33:57.742 --> 00:33:58.683
He's probably the best
00:33:58.723 --> 00:33:59.403
wrestler to ever come
00:33:59.443 --> 00:34:00.243
through Virginia Tech,
00:34:00.263 --> 00:34:00.903
and he deserves it.
00:34:00.923 --> 00:34:00.903
100%.
00:34:01.904 --> 00:34:04.665
Wow, that's what's up.
00:34:04.746 --> 00:34:05.425
Caleb Henson,
00:34:05.445 --> 00:34:06.685
let's talk about him a little bit.
00:34:07.826 --> 00:34:09.327
Caleb's freshman year was
00:34:09.686 --> 00:34:10.487
pretty impressive.
00:34:10.947 --> 00:34:12.987
He took fifth at Nationals this year.
00:34:13.047 --> 00:34:14.148
He's been even better.
00:34:14.168 --> 00:34:16.708
He's only had one loss to a top guy.
00:34:18.170 --> 00:34:20.469
And I guess the question I'm
00:34:20.489 --> 00:34:21.190
going to ask you is,
00:34:21.751 --> 00:34:22.871
can he overcome that loss
00:34:22.951 --> 00:34:23.811
in the Nationals and get
00:34:23.851 --> 00:34:25.552
revenge for a title?
00:34:27.012 --> 00:34:27.733
Absolutely.
00:34:27.813 --> 00:34:29.594
And his chances also just got better.
00:34:30.574 --> 00:34:31.016
Penn State,
00:34:31.056 --> 00:34:33.518
their 149 is also now out for the year.
00:34:33.538 --> 00:34:34.498
It's already official.
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:35.760
He's done.
00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:38.702
The one kid to beat him, Ridge Lovett,
00:34:39.302 --> 00:34:40.565
just slipped up and lost to
00:34:40.585 --> 00:34:42.405
Parco from Arizona State.
00:34:43.447 --> 00:34:44.487
So it looks like Caleb
00:34:44.507 --> 00:34:45.909
Henson will get that one seed.
00:34:46.389 --> 00:34:47.731
He has an easier path to the
00:34:47.771 --> 00:34:48.791
finals because that'll put
00:34:48.871 --> 00:34:50.494
Parco and Lovett at two and three.
00:34:51.434 --> 00:34:52.454
so they'll meet in the semis
00:34:52.494 --> 00:34:53.295
on the opposite side of the
00:34:53.335 --> 00:34:53.996
bracket from it.
00:34:54.496 --> 00:34:55.496
That takes a lot out of you
00:34:55.516 --> 00:34:56.398
when you have a tight match
00:34:56.418 --> 00:34:57.619
to get into the finals like that.
00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:59.780
So I like Caleb Henson's chances a lot.
00:35:01.641 --> 00:35:02.523
That's – man,
00:35:02.543 --> 00:35:04.965
so Joe's telling us here that
00:35:05.425 --> 00:35:06.806
it's not only one guy that
00:35:06.865 --> 00:35:08.527
has a potential chance at a
00:35:08.588 --> 00:35:10.309
national title, but two guys.
00:35:10.748 --> 00:35:13.931
And I know our buddy Dave Fuqua,
00:35:13.952 --> 00:35:15.373
who helped us with last year,
00:35:15.393 --> 00:35:16.653
is like that's when you get
00:35:16.693 --> 00:35:17.715
into that territory of
00:35:17.755 --> 00:35:18.896
winning a national title.
00:35:19.554 --> 00:35:20.134
Yes, Brian,
00:35:20.153 --> 00:35:21.114
I think you got something
00:35:21.135 --> 00:35:22.416
because we mentioned Joe earlier.
00:35:22.456 --> 00:35:23.356
We know it's a big weekend.
00:35:23.396 --> 00:35:24.577
It's ACC tournament weekend.
00:35:24.597 --> 00:35:25.277
What you got, Brian?
00:35:26.278 --> 00:35:28.219
Yeah, I mean, you know, ACC championships,
00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:28.440
you know,
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.961
NC State's kind of been that that rival,
00:35:30.981 --> 00:35:32.682
that top dog that we got our, you know,
00:35:33.322 --> 00:35:34.423
circled on the calendar there.
00:35:34.864 --> 00:35:35.043
You know,
00:35:35.063 --> 00:35:36.105
what are the chances that the
00:35:36.144 --> 00:35:38.626
Hokies have to go out there
00:35:38.646 --> 00:35:39.306
and have themselves a
00:35:39.347 --> 00:35:40.668
little bit of a weekend in the ACC?
00:35:40.847 --> 00:35:43.369
I mean, you've always got that chance.
00:35:44.056 --> 00:35:45.376
And I think it's kind of interesting.
00:35:45.416 --> 00:35:46.737
Everybody sees NC State,
00:35:46.757 --> 00:35:49.119
they win the ACC tournament and like, oh,
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:49.900
why can't we do that?
00:35:50.081 --> 00:35:50.782
But if you look at the
00:35:50.842 --> 00:35:52.023
national tournament standings,
00:35:52.943 --> 00:35:53.824
like the last 10 years,
00:35:53.844 --> 00:35:55.164
they've only finished ahead of us once.
00:35:55.925 --> 00:35:56.927
We always finish ahead of
00:35:56.947 --> 00:35:57.666
them at nationals.
00:35:58.188 --> 00:35:59.268
And the reason for that is,
00:35:59.329 --> 00:36:01.331
is the ACC has such a small
00:36:01.550 --> 00:36:02.351
wrestling conference.
00:36:02.711 --> 00:36:03.652
It's only six teams.
00:36:04.112 --> 00:36:05.474
So you don't get much of a gap.
00:36:06.175 --> 00:36:07.275
And the problem with that is
00:36:07.735 --> 00:36:09.657
where NC State wins
00:36:10.018 --> 00:36:11.239
championships in the ACC,
00:36:12.329 --> 00:36:14.811
is their guys, like at 197, for example,
00:36:15.112 --> 00:36:16.574
they'll have a guy that's a champion,
00:36:16.974 --> 00:36:18.675
our guy's getting third or fourth.
00:36:19.215 --> 00:36:20.717
And where we have a guy that's a champion,
00:36:20.898 --> 00:36:21.978
he's usually beating the NC
00:36:21.998 --> 00:36:22.958
State guy in the finals.
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:25.661
So that points gap is really tough.
00:36:26.262 --> 00:36:27.382
It's going to be hard to do
00:36:27.422 --> 00:36:29.445
it based on seeding, unfortunately.
00:36:29.465 --> 00:36:32.307
I think it's going to be really,
00:36:32.347 --> 00:36:33.007
really tight.
00:36:33.949 --> 00:36:35.010
There's a couple areas that
00:36:35.030 --> 00:36:36.271
you could pull it off at.
00:36:36.992 --> 00:36:37.192
I mean,
00:36:37.192 --> 00:36:38.585
141 would be one because
00:36:38.626 --> 00:36:39.387
you're going to have Tom
00:36:39.447 --> 00:36:40.827
Crook and NC State's Ryan
00:36:40.867 --> 00:36:41.827
Jack in the finals.
00:36:42.166 --> 00:36:43.547
I mean, the semifinals, excuse me.
00:36:44.108 --> 00:36:45.847
But everywhere else and 157,
00:36:45.847 --> 00:36:47.548
Ed Scott and Bryce Andonian
00:36:47.568 --> 00:36:48.389
will meet in the semis.
00:36:48.809 --> 00:36:49.489
But everywhere else,
00:36:49.568 --> 00:36:50.630
it would be kind of a
00:36:50.650 --> 00:36:52.650
finals matchup for us to go
00:36:52.730 --> 00:36:53.969
over top of NC State.
00:36:54.291 --> 00:36:55.090
So it's going to be tough.
00:36:56.110 --> 00:36:57.291
A lot of things would have to go our way.
00:36:57.311 --> 00:36:58.612
It's possible that a lot of
00:36:58.632 --> 00:36:59.391
things would have to happen.
00:37:00.092 --> 00:37:01.331
Before I get into kind of
00:37:01.793 --> 00:37:03.373
the final questions here for you,
00:37:04.349 --> 00:37:05.869
Would you rather win the ACC
00:37:05.909 --> 00:37:07.231
title or is it every year
00:37:07.291 --> 00:37:09.572
be above them and say, fuck y'all,
00:37:09.753 --> 00:37:11.775
y'all cannot get above us in nationals?
00:37:13.315 --> 00:37:14.177
It's got to be nationals
00:37:14.336 --> 00:37:15.057
because that's where you
00:37:15.097 --> 00:37:16.619
take your next step to try
00:37:16.659 --> 00:37:17.860
and get to a national title.
00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:19.161
If your goal is not to win a
00:37:19.201 --> 00:37:19.902
national title,
00:37:20.621 --> 00:37:21.503
then why are you doing it?
00:37:22.163 --> 00:37:23.324
So it's got to be nationals.
00:37:23.724 --> 00:37:25.585
You want to get in the top four.
00:37:25.925 --> 00:37:27.007
That's when you get on the podium.
00:37:27.367 --> 00:37:28.608
That's when you get a team trophy.
00:37:29.588 --> 00:37:31.590
We did that back in 2014,
00:37:31.590 --> 00:37:32.771
Kevin Dressner and Tony Roby.
00:37:33.389 --> 00:37:34.570
when they were getting this thing going.
00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:36.431
So you want to get a team
00:37:36.471 --> 00:37:38.331
title and you want to get on the podium.
00:37:38.650 --> 00:37:39.630
So it's always going to be
00:37:39.670 --> 00:37:40.871
nationals at the end of the day.
00:37:41.351 --> 00:37:42.831
ACC is just a qualifier.
00:37:43.711 --> 00:37:44.012
Got it.
00:37:44.211 --> 00:37:44.572
All right.
00:37:44.791 --> 00:37:44.992
Well,
00:37:45.672 --> 00:37:47.152
this is what I got for you at the end
00:37:47.193 --> 00:37:47.532
here.
00:37:48.333 --> 00:37:49.373
If you watch us,
00:37:49.672 --> 00:37:50.572
and I know you occasionally
00:37:50.592 --> 00:37:51.572
listen and watch us, Joe,
00:37:52.034 --> 00:37:52.853
we do tell the truth
00:37:52.914 --> 00:37:54.514
Tuesdays after every football game.
00:37:54.673 --> 00:37:56.134
We come in here and we lay it on.
00:37:56.173 --> 00:37:57.914
We tell the good, the bad, and the ugly.
00:37:58.155 --> 00:37:59.094
We don't bullshit around.
00:37:59.894 --> 00:38:01.556
So now this is Tell the
00:38:01.615 --> 00:38:03.777
Truth Tuesday National Finals.
00:38:04.416 --> 00:38:05.856
I'm going to go to each weight class.
00:38:06.277 --> 00:38:07.797
You give me your expectations,
00:38:08.217 --> 00:38:09.938
wrestler names, however you feel.
00:38:10.759 --> 00:38:11.360
Let's start.
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.840
You already talked about 125 already,
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.081
but what's your expectation
00:38:15.121 --> 00:38:17.382
for 125 down at Nationals?
00:38:19.143 --> 00:38:19.963
125 is tough.
00:38:20.463 --> 00:38:21.664
I really want to see Cooper
00:38:21.684 --> 00:38:23.505
Flynn get into the semifinals,
00:38:24.125 --> 00:38:26.746
get on ESPN, put on a show.
00:38:27.813 --> 00:38:28.432
If he gets through,
00:38:28.913 --> 00:38:30.034
that is just bonus points.
00:38:30.054 --> 00:38:30.594
That's gravy.
00:38:31.173 --> 00:38:32.114
But I want to see Cooper
00:38:32.175 --> 00:38:33.414
Flynn get All-American and
00:38:33.434 --> 00:38:34.615
hit the semifinals this year.
00:38:35.235 --> 00:38:35.496
All right.
00:38:35.516 --> 00:38:36.255
What about 133?
00:38:37.577 --> 00:38:38.036
Latona,
00:38:38.077 --> 00:38:39.416
he's had a little bit of a tough year.
00:38:39.677 --> 00:38:41.297
The cut's getting tough for him at 133.
00:38:41.998 --> 00:38:42.639
His body's growing.
00:38:42.659 --> 00:38:43.699
He's really tall.
00:38:44.179 --> 00:38:45.099
He's from Alabama,
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:46.739
like our guy Tally over here.
00:38:48.001 --> 00:38:49.001
Yes, sir.
00:38:49.041 --> 00:38:49.800
He's probably out there with
00:38:49.820 --> 00:38:50.902
a dip of snuff right now.
00:38:53.762 --> 00:38:54.682
I got one in right now.
00:38:57.492 --> 00:38:59.253
I really want to see Sam
00:38:59.273 --> 00:39:00.552
Latona All-American again.
00:39:00.572 --> 00:39:02.554
I think top eight is kind of
00:39:02.574 --> 00:39:03.474
the expectation there.
00:39:04.034 --> 00:39:04.293
Nice.
00:39:05.494 --> 00:39:06.735
What about 141?
00:39:07.976 --> 00:39:08.876
I think Tom Corp,
00:39:08.936 --> 00:39:10.356
the goal for him this year
00:39:10.396 --> 00:39:11.297
is to get to the next day.
00:39:12.077 --> 00:39:13.677
Sustain contention and get to day two.
00:39:14.478 --> 00:39:15.478
Because at day two,
00:39:15.518 --> 00:39:16.358
you're in the blood round.
00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:17.619
You're one match away.
00:39:18.958 --> 00:39:20.199
The blood round is like the round of 12.
00:39:21.092 --> 00:39:22.632
And that's where narrow it
00:39:22.652 --> 00:39:24.393
down to all Americans to the top eight.
00:39:24.833 --> 00:39:26.655
Get to day two, get to the blood round.
00:39:26.835 --> 00:39:27.376
That's his goal.
00:39:29.277 --> 00:39:30.597
All right, Joe, 149.
00:39:31.858 --> 00:39:32.478
National title.
00:39:33.778 --> 00:39:35.360
That's your boy Caleb, right?
00:39:36.021 --> 00:39:36.501
Stamping it.
00:39:36.820 --> 00:39:37.461
National title.
00:39:39.422 --> 00:39:40.242
All right.
00:39:41.423 --> 00:39:40.242
157.
00:39:41.844 --> 00:39:43.264
Bryce is so electric.
00:39:43.784 --> 00:39:44.686
The guy that won it last
00:39:44.726 --> 00:39:47.407
year from Penn State is coming back.
00:39:48.047 --> 00:39:48.967
Bryce had him on his back.
00:39:49.068 --> 00:39:49.909
Probably should have been a Penn.
00:39:51.563 --> 00:39:52.664
Anything could happen.
00:39:53.085 --> 00:39:55.085
Put him in the semis.
00:39:56.306 --> 00:39:58.509
And I think what you said
00:39:58.548 --> 00:39:59.550
earlier with Bryce and injuries,
00:39:59.769 --> 00:40:00.811
you think Bryce has that
00:40:00.871 --> 00:40:03.813
potential to get close.
00:40:03.873 --> 00:40:04.074
Yeah.
00:40:04.534 --> 00:40:04.773
Okay.
00:40:04.813 --> 00:40:06.295
He is super close.
00:40:06.755 --> 00:40:07.436
And if he's healthy,
00:40:07.737 --> 00:40:08.597
maybe he's not burned out
00:40:08.637 --> 00:40:10.298
from not having to cut weight all year.
00:40:11.059 --> 00:40:11.340
Right.
00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:11.820
Here we go.
00:40:14.402 --> 00:40:15.322
One seat to five.
00:40:16.884 --> 00:40:17.465
Just make weight.
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:23.539
No DQs.
00:40:25.041 --> 00:40:26.621
No forfeits.
00:40:27.041 --> 00:40:28.543
Who is 165, by the way?
00:40:28.623 --> 00:40:29.224
Gunner Brady.
00:40:29.563 --> 00:40:29.884
Gunner.
00:40:29.963 --> 00:40:30.885
Oh, okay.
00:40:31.525 --> 00:40:32.905
Highly rated kid, right?
00:40:33.867 --> 00:40:34.827
Yeah,
00:40:34.867 --> 00:40:36.268
he was barely highly rated coming out
00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:37.170
of high school.
00:40:37.230 --> 00:40:38.871
All righty.
00:40:39.911 --> 00:40:40.492
Who's got next?
00:40:40.711 --> 00:40:41.132
We know about 174.
00:40:41.233 --> 00:40:43.873
National title.
00:40:44.574 --> 00:40:46.516
Two-time.
00:40:47.496 --> 00:40:49.038
Two-time.
00:40:49.077 --> 00:40:49.918
We want to see it hanging.
00:40:51.304 --> 00:40:51.864
184 coming up.
00:40:52.123 --> 00:40:52.465
T.J.
00:40:52.505 --> 00:40:52.824
Stewart.
00:40:52.905 --> 00:40:53.746
His dad's a great guy.
00:40:53.786 --> 00:40:55.146
I got to give him a shout out, by the way.
00:40:55.626 --> 00:40:56.407
Great person.
00:40:57.068 --> 00:40:57.989
I'm going to say T.J.
00:40:58.009 --> 00:40:58.429
Stewart's going to
00:40:58.469 --> 00:40:59.329
All-American as a freshman.
00:40:59.831 --> 00:41:01.172
And he's going to make some noise.
00:41:01.911 --> 00:41:02.273
All right.
00:41:03.193 --> 00:41:03.833
Got two more.
00:41:03.853 --> 00:41:05.215
We got the two big boys here.
00:41:05.235 --> 00:41:05.215
197.
00:41:05.255 --> 00:41:07.237
Tom Crook.
00:41:07.356 --> 00:41:09.117
I want to see Andy Smith
00:41:09.297 --> 00:41:10.619
just win a match this year.
00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:11.500
Just win one match.
00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:12.201
Get us some points.
00:41:13.961 --> 00:41:14.463
Stay alive.
00:41:14.483 --> 00:41:17.065
Hey, we're waiting. 285.
00:41:19.659 --> 00:41:20.920
Hunter Kafka has to hit the
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.099
blood rounds or it's probably,
00:41:23.981 --> 00:41:24.820
probably curtains for it
00:41:25.201 --> 00:41:25.900
for a certain time.
00:41:27.041 --> 00:41:28.262
Does he have years left?
00:41:29.083 --> 00:41:29.643
He's got one more.
00:41:30.063 --> 00:41:30.302
Okay.
00:41:30.342 --> 00:41:31.304
So if you don't think he
00:41:31.344 --> 00:41:31.983
makes blood rounds,
00:41:32.023 --> 00:41:33.384
they go try to find
00:41:33.443 --> 00:41:34.664
somebody else to take that spot.
00:41:35.324 --> 00:41:35.605
Yeah.
00:41:35.965 --> 00:41:37.025
Cause Jimmy Mullins has all
00:41:37.045 --> 00:41:37.885
the potential in the world.
00:41:37.905 --> 00:41:40.186
Alrighty.
00:41:40.327 --> 00:41:41.608
So I'm going to wrap this up.
00:41:43.668 --> 00:41:45.168
We wrap this up.
00:41:45.248 --> 00:41:47.269
Hokey's team finish will be.
00:41:49.215 --> 00:41:52.117
I'm going between eight or nine.
00:41:52.677 --> 00:41:54.119
Top 10 nation this year.
00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:55.119
All right.
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:56.360
And kind of a reveal.
00:41:58.101 --> 00:41:59.824
That's respectable considering, you know,
00:41:59.884 --> 00:42:00.103
all the,
00:42:00.184 --> 00:42:00.963
all the things you mentioned
00:42:00.985 --> 00:42:01.945
earlier with the injuries
00:42:02.005 --> 00:42:02.746
and everything else.
00:42:02.806 --> 00:42:04.788
And especially if you can get, uh,
00:42:05.407 --> 00:42:07.188
McKay and Caleb, those, uh, those natties,
00:42:07.230 --> 00:42:07.630
that'd be a,
00:42:07.650 --> 00:42:09.170
that'd be a good little sendoff.
00:42:09.530 --> 00:42:12.434
You're looking at six, probably six,
00:42:13.054 --> 00:42:14.094
right outside the podium.
00:42:15.155 --> 00:42:16.077
And you're in a year that's
00:42:16.737 --> 00:42:18.559
kind of having a little bit of a rebuild,
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:18.878
you know?
00:42:21.027 --> 00:42:22.588
Is there any scenario where
00:42:22.608 --> 00:42:23.329
you see podium?
00:42:23.528 --> 00:42:24.789
Like is there anything when
00:42:24.829 --> 00:42:25.530
you're looking at these
00:42:25.590 --> 00:42:26.731
weight classes and the guys,
00:42:26.771 --> 00:42:29.634
could someone – take a Conor Brady.
00:42:29.813 --> 00:42:32.135
Could Conor Brady get over
00:42:32.155 --> 00:42:32.996
whatever's going on?
00:42:34.097 --> 00:42:34.297
Yeah,
00:42:34.336 --> 00:42:35.378
you're going to have to backfill with
00:42:35.398 --> 00:42:35.958
All-Americans.
00:42:36.137 --> 00:42:37.079
That's the only way to do it.
00:42:37.518 --> 00:42:37.659
Okay.
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:38.360
So you're going to have to
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.021
get multiple All-Americans
00:42:41.382 --> 00:42:43.362
and then have probably two finalists,
00:42:43.382 --> 00:42:43.824
maybe three.
00:42:44.463 --> 00:42:44.704
Okay.
00:42:45.405 --> 00:42:45.664
All righty.
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:47.722
Joe, listen, man,
00:42:48.322 --> 00:42:49.362
thanks for the education.
00:42:49.983 --> 00:42:51.123
We really appreciate it in
00:42:51.143 --> 00:42:52.704
wrestling because, you know,
00:42:53.425 --> 00:42:54.425
I enjoy watching it.
00:42:54.606 --> 00:42:55.965
I've got some friends I text with.
00:42:56.447 --> 00:42:57.887
We appreciate you coming on tonight,
00:42:58.088 --> 00:42:59.007
taking your time.
00:42:59.489 --> 00:43:00.869
If that baby's sleeping right now,
00:43:01.389 --> 00:43:02.210
get your ass to bed.
00:43:04.751 --> 00:43:06.413
If it ain't, I don't know what to tell you,
00:43:06.492 --> 00:43:06.853
dude.
00:43:07.052 --> 00:43:07.934
Watch the rest of us with
00:43:07.954 --> 00:43:09.213
Matei and see what's going on.
00:43:09.233 --> 00:43:09.795
But, hey, man,
00:43:09.815 --> 00:43:10.655
we really appreciate you
00:43:10.675 --> 00:43:12.016
taking your time tonight, man, okay?
00:43:12.844 --> 00:43:13.563
Thank you, guys.
00:43:13.583 --> 00:43:15.204
I appreciate everybody having me on,
00:43:15.246 --> 00:43:17.246
and I appreciate the dad
00:43:17.286 --> 00:43:18.086
advice from Tally.
00:43:18.246 --> 00:43:20.068
I call Tally, and he's always got my back.
00:43:20.509 --> 00:43:20.969
Oh, yeah.
00:43:20.989 --> 00:43:21.568
Oh, yeah, man.
00:43:21.648 --> 00:43:22.469
I try to keep it real.
00:43:22.489 --> 00:43:24.351
Hey, listen to me.
00:43:24.411 --> 00:43:25.632
Whatever your wife tell you to do,
00:43:25.672 --> 00:43:26.552
you better fucking do it.
00:43:27.353 --> 00:43:28.773
That's what I'm saying.
00:43:28.793 --> 00:43:30.155
That postpartum is real.
00:43:30.355 --> 00:43:31.155
You better listen to what
00:43:31.195 --> 00:43:31.936
that woman's saying.
00:43:32.596 --> 00:43:33.077
Yes, sir.
00:43:34.246 --> 00:43:34.668
All righty.
00:43:35.148 --> 00:43:35.648
Well, boys,
00:43:35.688 --> 00:43:37.449
before we bring on Mattesis on
00:43:37.469 --> 00:43:38.891
the backside of the program here,
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Now back to the episode.
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all right welcome back again
00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:09.630
we appreciate joe hunter
00:45:09.690 --> 00:45:11.072
rogers there taking some
00:45:11.112 --> 00:45:12.012
time get us a little
00:45:12.052 --> 00:45:14.835
education on wrestling and
00:45:15.094 --> 00:45:16.876
now let's flip it back to
00:45:16.916 --> 00:45:19.219
football gentlemen he joins
00:45:19.278 --> 00:45:20.599
us twice a year we love
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.161
having him from 247 sports
00:45:23.262 --> 00:45:24.422
let's talk some recruiting
00:45:24.443 --> 00:45:26.425
y'all because 2025 is hot
00:45:26.465 --> 00:45:29.327
and ready metasis how are
00:45:29.347 --> 00:45:30.967
you living buddy what's
00:45:31.009 --> 00:45:32.550
going on guys we got the full crew
00:45:33.612 --> 00:45:35.572
Full crew, full boat tonight, man.
00:45:35.833 --> 00:45:36.652
It's your lucky day.
00:45:37.132 --> 00:45:37.853
It is your lucky day.
00:45:37.873 --> 00:45:39.313
I'm loving it.
00:45:39.333 --> 00:45:40.275
Mate, what's been up, man?
00:45:40.295 --> 00:45:42.094
How's life been in the last
00:45:42.114 --> 00:45:42.775
few months here?
00:45:43.376 --> 00:45:44.976
Life has been good, obviously.
00:45:45.657 --> 00:45:48.358
You know, with all the recruiting changes,
00:45:48.438 --> 00:45:50.858
with the portal, NIL, everything,
00:45:51.918 --> 00:45:54.420
it's just constantly going on.
00:45:55.681 --> 00:45:55.920
You know,
00:45:56.001 --> 00:45:58.041
took a little time after signing
00:45:58.081 --> 00:45:59.461
day to kind of, you know,
00:45:59.601 --> 00:46:00.762
step away for a bit.
00:46:02.083 --> 00:46:03.384
But, you know, right back in it now.
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:06.621
And obviously right back in
00:46:06.661 --> 00:46:07.461
and I'm going to start this
00:46:07.521 --> 00:46:08.682
one off boys because a
00:46:09.322 --> 00:46:10.384
massive hire today.
00:46:10.983 --> 00:46:12.105
I don't care what anybody says.
00:46:12.405 --> 00:46:13.166
Massive hire.
00:46:15.913 --> 00:46:16.492
Especially with the
00:46:16.532 --> 00:46:17.393
recruiting implications.
00:46:17.434 --> 00:46:17.813
Especially with the
00:46:17.833 --> 00:46:18.793
recruiting implications.
00:46:19.014 --> 00:46:19.735
Gunner Brewer,
00:46:19.815 --> 00:46:21.315
who was formerly the wide
00:46:21.376 --> 00:46:23.297
receiver coach for the Maryland Terrapins,
00:46:23.836 --> 00:46:25.717
is now joining the Virginia
00:46:25.737 --> 00:46:27.639
Tech Hokies as the director
00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:28.980
of high school relations.
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.300
I mean, I looked up Gunner's.
00:46:31.981 --> 00:46:33.041
When I saw this happen,
00:46:33.641 --> 00:46:35.023
I immediately went to 247.
00:46:35.023 --> 00:46:35.742
I did, Mate.
00:46:35.822 --> 00:46:36.163
I did.
00:46:37.184 --> 00:46:38.465
This is not a shameless plug.
00:46:38.864 --> 00:46:41.646
I went to 247, and I looked up, oh,
00:46:41.686 --> 00:46:42.586
who's this guy recruited?
00:46:43.802 --> 00:46:44.362
Jesus,
00:46:46.105 --> 00:46:47.626
he ain't no slouch when it comes to
00:46:47.666 --> 00:46:48.166
recruiting.
00:46:48.246 --> 00:46:50.927
So what's your takeaways on this, man?
00:46:51.088 --> 00:46:52.829
And seeing someone of his ilk,
00:46:53.289 --> 00:46:54.851
he's not going to be an on-field coach.
00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:56.030
He's strictly going to be
00:46:56.090 --> 00:46:57.992
dealing with high school relations.
00:46:59.295 --> 00:47:00.074
Yeah, absolutely.
00:47:00.114 --> 00:47:01.476
You know, just first off,
00:47:01.516 --> 00:47:02.416
I was a little worried that
00:47:02.436 --> 00:47:03.297
they were going to spoil
00:47:03.356 --> 00:47:04.856
this a couple weeks ago.
00:47:04.916 --> 00:47:05.157
I mean,
00:47:05.177 --> 00:47:06.697
he was on Twitter following like
00:47:06.757 --> 00:47:07.838
half of Hokie Nation.
00:47:07.858 --> 00:47:10.420
So I was a little worried
00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:11.039
they wouldn't get the
00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:12.219
announcement out in time.
00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:13.940
But, you know, exceptional hire,
00:47:13.981 --> 00:47:15.902
a guy that's been around for, you know,
00:47:16.282 --> 00:47:17.702
three decades at this point.
00:47:17.742 --> 00:47:18.842
Like he was coaching Randy
00:47:18.882 --> 00:47:20.164
Moss back in college.
00:47:20.224 --> 00:47:22.105
So this is a guy that, you know,
00:47:22.324 --> 00:47:22.784
totally...
00:47:23.465 --> 00:47:24.824
like gets it from a wide
00:47:24.864 --> 00:47:26.365
receiver coaching
00:47:26.445 --> 00:47:28.005
perspective knows how to
00:47:28.085 --> 00:47:30.565
identify talent and not
00:47:30.626 --> 00:47:32.407
only that but I think he
00:47:32.626 --> 00:47:33.527
you know he's a guy that
00:47:33.626 --> 00:47:35.588
has you know offensive
00:47:35.628 --> 00:47:37.527
coordinator experience uh
00:47:37.588 --> 00:47:39.507
from his time at UNC he's
00:47:39.527 --> 00:47:40.648
been around a lot of big
00:47:40.688 --> 00:47:42.108
programs that recruit very
00:47:42.168 --> 00:47:44.248
well so he's bringing a ton
00:47:44.268 --> 00:47:45.590
of experience a ton of
00:47:45.650 --> 00:47:46.650
connections I just think
00:47:46.690 --> 00:47:47.650
it's the perfect fit
00:47:49.894 --> 00:47:50.675
Yeah, when we were looking at it,
00:47:50.695 --> 00:47:52.016
we were like, all right, so you got,
00:47:52.936 --> 00:47:53.175
you know,
00:47:53.735 --> 00:47:54.717
you're pulling a guy that's an
00:47:54.856 --> 00:47:55.536
on-field coach,
00:47:55.556 --> 00:47:56.257
and now you've got him in
00:47:56.277 --> 00:47:57.597
just this off-field role.
00:47:57.637 --> 00:47:57.978
Like,
00:47:58.117 --> 00:48:00.818
that's an impressive way to eat off
00:48:00.878 --> 00:48:03.320
the plate of another Power 5 school.
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:05.739
And it's twice we've done it
00:48:05.780 --> 00:48:07.280
in consecutive off-seasons, too,
00:48:07.981 --> 00:48:08.641
looking back with the
00:48:08.681 --> 00:48:10.081
Elijah Brooks hire last year.
00:48:10.141 --> 00:48:11.181
So, to me,
00:48:11.242 --> 00:48:13.103
just really impressive opportunity.
00:48:13.922 --> 00:48:15.423
way of filling in the role
00:48:15.983 --> 00:48:16.963
with uh with glenwood's
00:48:16.983 --> 00:48:19.284
departure so um I'm just
00:48:19.804 --> 00:48:20.545
I'm excited to see what
00:48:20.565 --> 00:48:21.965
he's gonna do and uh
00:48:22.025 --> 00:48:22.746
whether there's gonna be
00:48:22.806 --> 00:48:23.746
any you know residual
00:48:23.826 --> 00:48:24.987
impact with his history
00:48:25.007 --> 00:48:26.266
with y receivers in that in
00:48:26.306 --> 00:48:27.668
that room as well so we'll
00:48:27.688 --> 00:48:30.309
see yeah that's the
00:48:30.369 --> 00:48:31.309
interesting piece about it
00:48:31.349 --> 00:48:33.909
in my opinion I'll just say
00:48:33.949 --> 00:48:35.750
don't it up just come in
00:48:35.829 --> 00:48:37.371
and do something positive
00:48:38.603 --> 00:48:40.527
We got the wide receiver room going good.
00:48:41.007 --> 00:48:41.969
Just come in.
00:48:42.329 --> 00:48:43.793
We might need some help in
00:48:43.813 --> 00:48:44.653
some other areas.
00:48:44.693 --> 00:48:46.056
Don't come in there and fuck nothing up.
00:48:47.077 --> 00:48:47.639
Let them roll.
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:49.041
Let them roll.
00:48:49.702 --> 00:48:50.182
Bad boys.
00:48:51.621 --> 00:48:52.942
What y'all got next, boys?
00:48:53.181 --> 00:48:55.483
Brian, Tally, Shelton, fire away.
00:48:56.105 --> 00:48:58.385
I guess my question is, go ahead, Brian.
00:48:58.585 --> 00:48:59.387
No, you go ahead, Tally.
00:48:59.487 --> 00:49:00.027
I'll let you ride.
00:49:00.088 --> 00:49:01.108
I was just going to ask Matei,
00:49:01.148 --> 00:49:02.949
what games is he going to this year, man?
00:49:03.369 --> 00:49:04.510
We see you all the time.
00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:05.391
I mean, you come on the show,
00:49:05.411 --> 00:49:06.311
but I don't think I ever
00:49:06.351 --> 00:49:07.193
seen you at a game.
00:49:07.333 --> 00:49:07.793
What games?
00:49:08.134 --> 00:49:09.155
Are you going to any games?
00:49:10.275 --> 00:49:11.576
Yeah, I'm planning on it this year.
00:49:12.876 --> 00:49:13.335
Unfortunately,
00:49:13.356 --> 00:49:15.016
I wasn't able to make it down last year.
00:49:15.036 --> 00:49:16.978
I went to the Rutgers game,
00:49:17.038 --> 00:49:17.777
which was away.
00:49:17.797 --> 00:49:20.278
I went to the Tulane Bowl game,
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:21.920
which was interesting.
00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:24.061
Michael Pratt was up there
00:49:24.101 --> 00:49:25.981
in the press box eating everyone's pizza.
00:49:26.362 --> 00:49:27.681
Oh, that's why we don't see him.
00:49:27.742 --> 00:49:28.943
I forgot we was dealing with him.
00:49:31.684 --> 00:49:32.903
He opted out, but he was there.
00:49:34.204 --> 00:49:35.425
But in terms for next year,
00:49:35.605 --> 00:49:39.547
I'm super excited about Miami.
00:49:41.146 --> 00:49:42.728
Clemson is a huge one.
00:49:42.947 --> 00:49:43.327
Obviously,
00:49:43.387 --> 00:49:44.688
those two games are probably the
00:49:44.708 --> 00:49:46.489
biggest games on the schedule.
00:49:47.108 --> 00:49:49.289
And I think really this is
00:49:49.349 --> 00:49:50.431
the first time in a while
00:49:50.510 --> 00:49:51.911
that Virginia Tech has
00:49:51.990 --> 00:49:53.791
expectations of doing very well.
00:49:55.052 --> 00:49:55.293
You know,
00:49:55.313 --> 00:49:57.693
I think it varies depending on
00:49:57.733 --> 00:49:59.514
who you ask, whether it's eight and four,
00:49:59.554 --> 00:50:00.175
nine and three.
00:50:00.494 --> 00:50:00.715
You know,
00:50:00.755 --> 00:50:04.137
some people think much higher than that,
00:50:04.217 --> 00:50:04.836
which is fine.
00:50:05.277 --> 00:50:06.378
But regardless,
00:50:06.438 --> 00:50:07.498
I think like we haven't
00:50:07.518 --> 00:50:08.860
seen Virginia Tech go toe
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:09.739
to toe against some of
00:50:09.780 --> 00:50:11.780
these better programs in a very,
00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:12.581
very long time.
00:50:13.202 --> 00:50:13.702
And, you know,
00:50:13.762 --> 00:50:15.043
last year was kind of the case.
00:50:15.322 --> 00:50:16.824
Beat the teams who you're supposed to be.
00:50:17.264 --> 00:50:18.284
Lose against, you know,
00:50:18.324 --> 00:50:19.905
the teams that are better than you.
00:50:19.925 --> 00:50:20.666
Yeah.
00:50:21.326 --> 00:50:21.925
So, you know,
00:50:22.005 --> 00:50:24.226
those are two that I'm looking at.
00:50:24.628 --> 00:50:25.327
And then, you know,
00:50:25.367 --> 00:50:26.668
the pipe dream is Stanford,
00:50:26.688 --> 00:50:28.329
a little vacation out there.
00:50:28.349 --> 00:50:30.250
I think that would be fantastic.
00:50:30.309 --> 00:50:32.731
So looking forward to that.
00:50:32.871 --> 00:50:35.052
If I can swing the flights, I'll be there.
00:50:36.092 --> 00:50:37.614
You said a lot of games, man.
00:50:37.634 --> 00:50:38.554
You didn't say the one that
00:50:38.594 --> 00:50:39.375
I'm thinking about.
00:50:39.996 --> 00:50:40.976
You need to clear that
00:50:41.018 --> 00:50:45.880
schedule and get down there to Nashville.
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:46.280
I know.
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:47.119
I'm scared, though.
00:50:47.481 --> 00:50:48.601
Last time I was in Nashville
00:50:48.621 --> 00:50:49.521
didn't end up too well.
00:50:49.661 --> 00:50:50.942
Okay.
00:50:51.242 --> 00:50:51.742
Yeah, we'll see.
00:50:51.782 --> 00:50:53.784
I don't even want to ask what happened,
00:50:53.824 --> 00:50:55.143
but we done had a lot of
00:50:55.164 --> 00:50:56.525
stuff happen in the last couple of years,
00:50:56.605 --> 00:50:57.284
a lot of losses.
00:50:57.324 --> 00:50:58.045
We had COVID.
00:50:58.065 --> 00:50:59.806
So if something bad happened,
00:50:59.826 --> 00:51:00.806
you might need to stay away.
00:51:01.387 --> 00:51:02.748
Are you guys all going down for that one?
00:51:03.905 --> 00:51:04.686
I'm going to be there.
00:51:04.726 --> 00:51:05.927
I know Tally said he's going
00:51:05.947 --> 00:51:06.447
to try to be there.
00:51:06.507 --> 00:51:08.547
Curtis, we got to – TBD.
00:51:09.228 --> 00:51:09.949
TBD.
00:51:10.268 --> 00:51:12.869
We're TBD.
00:51:12.909 --> 00:51:13.931
Nashville is only about an
00:51:13.971 --> 00:51:15.451
hour and a half from my house.
00:51:16.170 --> 00:51:16.851
Tally running the whole
00:51:16.891 --> 00:51:17.811
weekend down there.
00:51:18.391 --> 00:51:18.813
Oh, yeah.
00:51:18.873 --> 00:51:20.233
I'm going to be ready to go.
00:51:20.994 --> 00:51:22.014
I'll make it a four-day stay.
00:51:22.034 --> 00:51:23.034
I'm going down Thursday.
00:51:23.875 --> 00:51:24.175
Nice.
00:51:24.295 --> 00:51:25.175
I'm going to go have fun.
00:51:25.376 --> 00:51:25.936
What are you going to do?
00:51:25.956 --> 00:51:26.356
Oh, yeah.
00:51:26.396 --> 00:51:27.697
I'm going to take my wife out one night.
00:51:27.737 --> 00:51:29.117
We're going to have a good
00:51:29.137 --> 00:51:29.777
time before all the
00:51:29.797 --> 00:51:31.177
football shenanigans start on Friday.
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:32.739
There you go.
00:51:32.759 --> 00:51:33.099
There you go.
00:51:33.628 --> 00:51:34.269
What you got, Brian?
00:51:35.532 --> 00:51:36.012
Yeah, I mean,
00:51:36.333 --> 00:51:37.193
the thing I want to talk about,
00:51:37.213 --> 00:51:38.195
we just kind of wrapped up
00:51:38.235 --> 00:51:38.956
winter workout.
00:51:38.976 --> 00:51:40.518
We're kind of getting into spring break.
00:51:42.681 --> 00:51:43.983
What's this period like for
00:51:44.003 --> 00:51:45.005
the coaches in terms of
00:51:45.025 --> 00:51:46.047
kind of ramping up some of
00:51:46.086 --> 00:51:48.090
those 2025 visits and things like that?
00:51:48.842 --> 00:51:49.402
Yeah, I mean,
00:51:49.422 --> 00:51:50.943
there's definitely a huge
00:51:51.003 --> 00:51:52.545
emphasis right now on recruiting.
00:51:53.326 --> 00:51:55.007
I think winter workouts were
00:51:55.047 --> 00:51:55.967
great for the team.
00:51:55.987 --> 00:51:56.226
You know,
00:51:56.266 --> 00:51:57.447
heard really good things about
00:51:57.487 --> 00:51:58.449
Keyshawn Burgos.
00:51:59.228 --> 00:52:00.769
I think he had a really,
00:52:00.809 --> 00:52:01.550
really good winter.
00:52:01.630 --> 00:52:03.251
So excited to see what he
00:52:03.291 --> 00:52:04.331
looks like in the spring.
00:52:05.052 --> 00:52:07.414
Some of those younger offensive linemen,
00:52:07.494 --> 00:52:09.034
Laith did a really good job.
00:52:09.715 --> 00:52:10.815
Johnny Garrett's a guy that
00:52:10.835 --> 00:52:12.317
I'm really excited about as well.
00:52:12.376 --> 00:52:13.898
I think we've been hearing more and more,
00:52:13.918 --> 00:52:16.039
especially like later on in
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:17.139
the season last year.
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:19.882
So I'm excited to see what he can do.
00:52:19.981 --> 00:52:22.523
But yeah, just wrapping those up.
00:52:22.563 --> 00:52:24.264
I think we're 10 days away
00:52:24.324 --> 00:52:25.445
from the first practice.
00:52:26.186 --> 00:52:26.985
So there's a little bit of
00:52:27.025 --> 00:52:28.646
time right now to kind of
00:52:28.927 --> 00:52:30.088
hone in on on the
00:52:30.128 --> 00:52:31.429
recruiting board and and
00:52:31.449 --> 00:52:32.650
really get things rolling here.
00:52:33.461 --> 00:52:34.762
Are you going to try to get
00:52:34.782 --> 00:52:35.983
to any spring practices or
00:52:36.043 --> 00:52:36.903
spring game this year?
00:52:37.463 --> 00:52:38.545
I'm hopeful that I can make
00:52:38.565 --> 00:52:39.644
it down to the spring game.
00:52:39.844 --> 00:52:42.606
So I'm targeting being down
00:52:42.646 --> 00:52:43.266
there for that.
00:52:44.648 --> 00:52:45.427
So, yeah, we'll see.
00:52:46.208 --> 00:52:46.648
All righty.
00:52:46.748 --> 00:52:47.048
Well,
00:52:47.168 --> 00:52:49.230
let's put a wrap on 2024 first
00:52:50.431 --> 00:52:53.492
because so many guys in this class,
00:52:53.532 --> 00:52:55.733
guys a year ago tonight mentioned,
00:52:55.974 --> 00:52:57.255
I remember Keelan Brody
00:52:57.355 --> 00:52:59.096
Adams was one of the guys you mentioned.
00:53:00.115 --> 00:53:01.277
We've got to know his dad.
00:53:02.264 --> 00:53:03.324
We've seen him develop.
00:53:03.364 --> 00:53:04.465
We saw where he rated.
00:53:04.905 --> 00:53:07.306
But Keelan, you got Gabe,
00:53:07.347 --> 00:53:09.007
you got Chance Wiggins, Quinn Reddish,
00:53:09.467 --> 00:53:10.469
so many names.
00:53:11.208 --> 00:53:12.469
But let me ask you this.
00:53:13.731 --> 00:53:16.592
What guy in that cycle, in the 2024 cycle,
00:53:16.672 --> 00:53:19.454
you believe is still by 247
00:53:19.454 --> 00:53:20.394
criminally underrated?
00:53:20.755 --> 00:53:23.096
Like this guy is not where
00:53:23.115 --> 00:53:24.476
he is way too loved.
00:53:25.184 --> 00:53:26.445
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
00:53:26.485 --> 00:53:28.766
I think this year they did a
00:53:28.846 --> 00:53:29.606
pretty good job.
00:53:29.626 --> 00:53:29.865
I mean,
00:53:29.945 --> 00:53:31.365
obviously it's like the highest
00:53:31.585 --> 00:53:34.706
average recruit rating for
00:53:34.746 --> 00:53:37.927
Virginia Tech since the database began.
00:53:38.288 --> 00:53:39.148
So, you know,
00:53:39.168 --> 00:53:41.108
they got a lot of quality guys.
00:53:41.148 --> 00:53:42.768
There's no real fillers,
00:53:42.829 --> 00:53:45.809
no guys that are really below an 86,
00:53:45.809 --> 00:53:48.289
I believe, from our in-house ranking.
00:53:48.369 --> 00:53:50.389
So I think they did a really good job.
00:53:50.429 --> 00:53:52.210
The obvious answer would
00:53:52.231 --> 00:53:53.411
have been Andrew Hanchuk.
00:53:54.050 --> 00:53:56.914
He was, he recently got elevated to an 88,
00:53:56.914 --> 00:53:58.255
but he was a guy that, you know,
00:53:58.295 --> 00:54:00.637
sustained an injury junior year,
00:54:01.016 --> 00:54:02.579
kind of turned it around senior year.
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:03.780
Like this is a guy that if
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:05.420
everything went according to plan,
00:54:05.460 --> 00:54:08.463
like he would have been lined up for OSU.
00:54:08.923 --> 00:54:10.326
Like he would have gone there.
00:54:10.346 --> 00:54:11.306
It would have been a done
00:54:11.346 --> 00:54:13.748
deal four-star guy, you know,
00:54:13.768 --> 00:54:14.849
with the injury stuff,
00:54:14.929 --> 00:54:17.030
with some schools questioning, okay,
00:54:17.072 --> 00:54:18.753
is he getting too big post injury?
00:54:18.793 --> 00:54:20.835
Should we move him to offensive line?
00:54:20.875 --> 00:54:20.994
Like,
00:54:21.255 --> 00:54:22.275
I remember when he committed
00:54:22.315 --> 00:54:23.737
a lot of people on Twitter
00:54:23.777 --> 00:54:26.019
were saying this guy could
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:27.681
potentially move to the
00:54:27.762 --> 00:54:28.782
offensive side of the ball.
00:54:28.802 --> 00:54:30.744
But this guy's an absolute freak.
00:54:30.786 --> 00:54:32.768
I think Brent Prye called him a unicorn.
00:54:33.789 --> 00:54:35.170
He's also someone who's on
00:54:35.210 --> 00:54:36.931
campus now doing a really good job.
00:54:36.992 --> 00:54:38.954
I think he will be really good.
00:54:39.014 --> 00:54:39.974
I think it will take him
00:54:40.014 --> 00:54:41.998
some time before he really gets involved.
00:54:42.918 --> 00:54:44.278
but he's one of those guys.
00:54:44.318 --> 00:54:45.798
And then I would say another
00:54:45.898 --> 00:54:47.139
one would be Tommy Ricard.
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.041
I think he's not talked about as much, but,
00:54:51.501 --> 00:54:51.782
you know,
00:54:52.001 --> 00:54:53.842
he's a guy that I think interior
00:54:53.983 --> 00:54:55.023
offensive line could
00:54:55.063 --> 00:54:56.443
potentially move to center
00:54:57.204 --> 00:54:57.983
in a couple of years.
00:54:58.103 --> 00:54:58.985
But, you know,
00:54:59.045 --> 00:55:01.346
he's strong as an ox and
00:55:01.646 --> 00:55:02.585
he'll maul people.
00:55:02.706 --> 00:55:04.626
So I think they did a really
00:55:04.666 --> 00:55:05.646
good job with him and
00:55:05.686 --> 00:55:06.588
getting him on board.
00:55:09.389 --> 00:55:10.208
That's pretty good because
00:55:10.228 --> 00:55:11.590
that was two names that I didn't even,
00:55:11.849 --> 00:55:12.070
you know,
00:55:12.847 --> 00:55:15.809
have on the names of people
00:55:15.829 --> 00:55:16.889
that I would have asked about.
00:55:16.949 --> 00:55:18.771
So that's why you're here, man.
00:55:18.971 --> 00:55:20.112
You give us the insight.
00:55:20.711 --> 00:55:21.032
You know,
00:55:21.052 --> 00:55:22.333
that's why we love you to be here.
00:55:22.653 --> 00:55:24.255
Tally, go back in your memory bank.
00:55:25.856 --> 00:55:27.936
You mentioned Hanchuk last July.
00:55:28.056 --> 00:55:29.418
I remember you talking about him,
00:55:29.458 --> 00:55:31.780
and you said if he hadn't hurt his knee,
00:55:32.539 --> 00:55:34.121
this kid would be way up here.
00:55:35.161 --> 00:55:37.704
I like that y'all at 247,
00:55:37.704 --> 00:55:38.844
even though he is a Hokie,
00:55:39.003 --> 00:55:41.025
y'all only can give him an 88.
00:55:41.025 --> 00:55:41.826
You know you give grief
00:55:41.865 --> 00:55:42.686
about that all the time.
00:55:43.427 --> 00:55:45.670
but I like what they did is they basically,
00:55:45.989 --> 00:55:47.251
they saw his production and
00:55:47.311 --> 00:55:47.851
senior and said,
00:55:47.871 --> 00:55:49.313
now this guy isn't an 85.
00:55:49.313 --> 00:55:50.353
He isn't an 80.
00:55:50.813 --> 00:55:51.173
He is.
00:55:51.335 --> 00:55:52.356
He's borderline a four star.
00:55:52.376 --> 00:55:53.036
I love that.
00:55:53.556 --> 00:55:53.717
Yeah.
00:55:54.036 --> 00:55:54.898
Which one of y'all got next?
00:55:54.938 --> 00:55:55.617
Brian tally.
00:55:58.721 --> 00:55:58.920
I mean,
00:55:58.940 --> 00:56:00.862
I think the biggest question I have
00:56:00.922 --> 00:56:03.806
is like of these guys in that 2024 class,
00:56:03.826 --> 00:56:04.646
who do you think can have
00:56:04.686 --> 00:56:05.907
that most immediate impact?
00:56:06.775 --> 00:56:08.056
Yeah, that's another great question.
00:56:08.096 --> 00:56:09.396
I think a lot of people will
00:56:09.456 --> 00:56:12.056
jump and say Kamari Copeland just because,
00:56:12.117 --> 00:56:12.318
you know,
00:56:12.338 --> 00:56:14.998
he played Iowa Western Community College.
00:56:15.059 --> 00:56:16.860
Like he's a you look at him
00:56:16.940 --> 00:56:17.880
like I don't know if you
00:56:17.900 --> 00:56:19.581
guys have seen like those videos.
00:56:20.021 --> 00:56:20.920
Oh, I have.
00:56:22.121 --> 00:56:24.123
He is unbelievable.
00:56:24.282 --> 00:56:26.184
Like he's absolutely unbelievable.
00:56:27.204 --> 00:56:28.686
He's got that mean streak in him,
00:56:28.706 --> 00:56:30.266
but he's also the kindest
00:56:30.286 --> 00:56:31.188
guy you'll ever meet.
00:56:32.068 --> 00:56:33.389
He loves Virginia Tech.
00:56:34.130 --> 00:56:37.032
That guy is a mauler and super strong.
00:56:37.152 --> 00:56:38.753
I think he'll fit in in the
00:56:38.813 --> 00:56:40.235
two deep at the very least.
00:56:40.815 --> 00:56:42.237
I think he could play right away.
00:56:43.518 --> 00:56:46.820
But in terms of true freshman guys...
00:56:48.862 --> 00:56:50.505
I would go with Gerard Johnson.
00:56:50.525 --> 00:56:54.108
I think he's a guy that when
00:56:54.128 --> 00:56:55.248
they went in home with him,
00:56:55.329 --> 00:56:55.949
they were like, yep,
00:56:56.048 --> 00:56:56.929
you could play right away.
00:56:57.791 --> 00:57:00.253
He's a guy that's built to play right now.
00:57:00.713 --> 00:57:01.693
I think it's interesting
00:57:01.733 --> 00:57:02.574
with his development.
00:57:02.594 --> 00:57:03.815
He's obviously an edge.
00:57:04.257 --> 00:57:06.838
He's a little bigger at like 240, 245.
00:57:07.338 --> 00:57:09.221
I think he's a guy that it's
00:57:09.260 --> 00:57:10.081
going to be tough to keep
00:57:10.121 --> 00:57:10.961
the weight off of him.
00:57:11.103 --> 00:57:13.965
In a college weightlifting program,
00:57:14.025 --> 00:57:15.005
he's really going to bulk up.
00:57:15.266 --> 00:57:16.588
and I'm curious to see if
00:57:16.628 --> 00:57:19.391
he'll slide inside later on in his career,
00:57:19.472 --> 00:57:21.114
but definitely someone that
00:57:21.153 --> 00:57:22.835
I could see making a run at
00:57:22.856 --> 00:57:24.338
the two deep as a true freshman.
00:57:26.572 --> 00:57:27.253
That's what's up.
00:57:27.574 --> 00:57:27.733
Yeah,
00:57:27.753 --> 00:57:30.335
that's exciting because that's
00:57:30.376 --> 00:57:31.295
definitely an area that I
00:57:31.315 --> 00:57:32.536
think they targeted heavily
00:57:32.556 --> 00:57:35.840
with some of the deep tackles we went on,
00:57:36.099 --> 00:57:38.280
some of the overall depth
00:57:38.702 --> 00:57:39.501
that we're trying to build
00:57:39.561 --> 00:57:40.483
at the edge position.
00:57:40.523 --> 00:57:42.423
So if we can get edge shored up and, again,
00:57:42.463 --> 00:57:44.105
get some bodies in there to
00:57:44.164 --> 00:57:44.826
replace some of those
00:57:44.846 --> 00:57:45.786
departing deep tackles,
00:57:45.826 --> 00:57:46.467
that's going to be really
00:57:46.527 --> 00:57:47.307
important for this year.
00:57:47.327 --> 00:57:47.307
100%.
00:57:47.907 --> 00:57:48.527
Mateo,
00:57:49.389 --> 00:57:51.449
we know you have to watch a lot of film,
00:57:51.510 --> 00:57:52.771
and we know you have to
00:57:52.811 --> 00:57:53.652
probably go to a lot of,
00:57:54.608 --> 00:57:56.228
different games and things like that.
00:57:56.369 --> 00:58:00.090
But out of the recruiting class for 2024,
00:58:00.090 --> 00:58:01.409
who was your, I would say,
00:58:01.429 --> 00:58:03.030
just personal favorite that
00:58:03.050 --> 00:58:05.971
you've seen that Virginia Tech pulled?
00:58:07.050 --> 00:58:08.411
It's tough to pick a favorite.
00:58:08.530 --> 00:58:09.351
I think, you know,
00:58:09.512 --> 00:58:11.192
I've really liked a lot of
00:58:11.211 --> 00:58:13.831
the guys that they brought in in 2024.
00:58:13.831 --> 00:58:15.353
I think, you know,
00:58:15.373 --> 00:58:17.652
I instantly go to Tyler Mason.
00:58:17.672 --> 00:58:20.414
I know he put up video game numbers.
00:58:20.454 --> 00:58:22.393
He was playing single A. Like, I get it.
00:58:22.474 --> 00:58:22.653
It was...
00:58:23.333 --> 00:58:24.894
not great competition and he
00:58:24.954 --> 00:58:25.936
probably should have been
00:58:26.356 --> 00:58:27.677
on another team but hey
00:58:27.777 --> 00:58:29.777
like this guy is legit I
00:58:29.818 --> 00:58:31.679
think uh you know he could
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:32.539
be someone that you could
00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:33.860
put in that underrated
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:35.141
category I think he was
00:58:35.181 --> 00:58:37.141
like an 86 on the composite
00:58:38.083 --> 00:58:39.382
he's a guy that I mean he's
00:58:39.443 --> 00:58:41.244
on campus right now he
00:58:41.423 --> 00:58:42.784
looks good like he is
00:58:42.844 --> 00:58:43.925
someone that's really
00:58:43.965 --> 00:58:45.387
pushing I know running back
00:58:45.467 --> 00:58:47.108
is set for next year but like
00:58:47.847 --> 00:58:49.369
and and and to say like oh
00:58:49.409 --> 00:58:50.329
he'll be the third running
00:58:50.369 --> 00:58:51.509
back he'll get one carry
00:58:51.568 --> 00:58:52.730
every three games but like
00:58:53.110 --> 00:58:54.670
this is a guy that you know
00:58:54.769 --> 00:58:55.710
really could play right
00:58:55.769 --> 00:58:57.210
away if the situation were
00:58:57.231 --> 00:58:59.150
a little different um he's
00:58:59.431 --> 00:59:01.831
he's a flexible guy uh he's
00:59:01.871 --> 00:59:02.972
gonna play at running back
00:59:03.032 --> 00:59:03.932
but he's a guy that could
00:59:03.992 --> 00:59:05.213
switch over to safety like
00:59:05.253 --> 00:59:06.054
he has that type of
00:59:06.134 --> 00:59:08.434
athleticism and you know
00:59:08.474 --> 00:59:09.494
I'm really excited about
00:59:09.534 --> 00:59:10.534
him he's put on a lot of
00:59:10.594 --> 00:59:12.936
muscle he's really um just
00:59:14.135 --> 00:59:14.996
Done everything that
00:59:15.175 --> 00:59:16.197
everyone has asked from him.
00:59:16.277 --> 00:59:18.356
So really excited about him.
00:59:18.376 --> 00:59:20.577
I mentioned Andrew Hanchuk.
00:59:20.617 --> 00:59:21.378
He's, you know,
00:59:21.498 --> 00:59:23.117
another guy that's really impressing.
00:59:23.858 --> 00:59:24.739
And then the last one I
00:59:24.778 --> 00:59:26.159
would say is Joshua Clark.
00:59:26.219 --> 00:59:27.159
Like he was my absolute
00:59:27.179 --> 00:59:29.039
favorite throughout the process.
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:31.800
You know, Alexandria guy.
00:59:31.860 --> 00:59:32.561
I think, you know,
00:59:32.581 --> 00:59:35.181
he's I think the lone true
00:59:35.302 --> 00:59:36.442
cornerback in the class.
00:59:37.362 --> 00:59:39.043
Cheetah picked him out early on,
00:59:39.302 --> 00:59:41.184
and he's a guy that I really,
00:59:41.224 --> 00:59:41.784
really like.
00:59:42.125 --> 00:59:42.885
Fluid hips,
00:59:43.425 --> 00:59:45.166
reminds you of your classic
00:59:45.527 --> 00:59:46.927
Virginia Tech cornerback.
00:59:47.027 --> 00:59:48.208
I think he's going to be really,
00:59:48.268 --> 00:59:48.788
really good.
00:59:48.847 --> 00:59:49.829
Very excited about him.
00:59:51.086 --> 00:59:52.987
Yeah, and it is what's up.
00:59:53.047 --> 00:59:54.827
And the 2024 class was great.
00:59:56.168 --> 00:59:57.268
Not the biggest class.
00:59:57.367 --> 00:59:58.648
And I got some of them we'll
00:59:58.668 --> 01:00:00.268
hit on a little bit later with you, Mate.
01:00:01.009 --> 01:00:02.929
But I want to flip over now
01:00:03.250 --> 01:00:04.710
and let's pivot a little bit to Portal.
01:00:05.429 --> 01:00:07.570
Because last year, very big Portal class.
01:00:07.911 --> 01:00:09.331
This year, not as big.
01:00:09.871 --> 01:00:10.891
But with guys like
01:00:11.030 --> 01:00:12.211
Montavious Cunningham
01:00:12.251 --> 01:00:15.833
coming in from Georgia Southern,
01:00:15.853 --> 01:00:16.472
Georgia State.
01:00:16.592 --> 01:00:17.612
Always mix them up, y'all.
01:00:18.369 --> 01:00:18.610
State.
01:00:19.070 --> 01:00:19.371
State.
01:00:19.670 --> 01:00:21.110
Thank you.
01:00:21.371 --> 01:00:22.291
Sam Brumfield,
01:00:22.371 --> 01:00:24.273
Middle Tennessee at middle linebacker.
01:00:24.313 --> 01:00:25.014
Kelvin Gillum,
01:00:25.054 --> 01:00:26.313
the Highland Springs product,
01:00:26.353 --> 01:00:27.614
who went out to Oklahoma.
01:00:28.335 --> 01:00:29.715
And like a lot of guys from
01:00:29.735 --> 01:00:30.617
Virginia who leave,
01:00:30.657 --> 01:00:31.657
they got to come back home
01:00:31.677 --> 01:00:33.737
to find the place to make it happen.
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:36.519
And Aeneas Peoples, an all-ACC performer.
01:00:38.021 --> 01:00:39.300
We talked about Nashville.
01:00:40.681 --> 01:00:41.461
In your opinion,
01:00:41.623 --> 01:00:42.742
could all four of these
01:00:42.802 --> 01:00:47.865
guys be starters week one in Nashville?
01:00:48.150 --> 01:00:48.791
Yeah, absolutely.
01:00:48.831 --> 01:00:49.030
I mean,
01:00:49.050 --> 01:00:50.612
that's that's the plan with these guys.
01:00:50.672 --> 01:00:52.172
I mean, they won't say it,
01:00:52.251 --> 01:00:53.612
but Sam Brumfield is pretty
01:00:53.652 --> 01:00:55.554
much walking into a, you know,
01:00:55.753 --> 01:00:57.213
empty Mike linebacker
01:00:57.253 --> 01:00:58.554
position like they
01:00:58.574 --> 01:00:59.695
struggled last year there.
01:01:00.074 --> 01:01:01.235
They needed to identify
01:01:01.295 --> 01:01:02.175
someone to bring in
01:01:02.996 --> 01:01:04.617
obviously has a lot of ties with Marv.
01:01:05.376 --> 01:01:06.398
from various stops,
01:01:06.557 --> 01:01:07.798
but he's a guy that will
01:01:07.838 --> 01:01:08.679
come in right away.
01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:09.840
He's built for it.
01:01:09.981 --> 01:01:10.722
He's seasoned.
01:01:11.081 --> 01:01:13.545
Montavious Cunningham, really like him.
01:01:13.684 --> 01:01:15.065
I think he can fit in a lot
01:01:15.106 --> 01:01:16.106
of different positions.
01:01:16.527 --> 01:01:17.867
Curious to see how he ends up.
01:01:17.907 --> 01:01:20.510
It sounds like he's probably
01:01:20.570 --> 01:01:21.572
that starter at right
01:01:21.612 --> 01:01:22.932
tackle as of right now.
01:01:24.434 --> 01:01:25.635
We'll see if that holds up.
01:01:26.195 --> 01:01:27.257
He seems like someone that
01:01:27.697 --> 01:01:28.657
know long term you would
01:01:28.697 --> 01:01:30.498
want him at you know on the
01:01:31.019 --> 01:01:32.320
interior of the offensive
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.762
line um but despite him
01:01:34.822 --> 01:01:36.023
being you know six three
01:01:36.063 --> 01:01:37.244
six four he's got really
01:01:37.284 --> 01:01:38.846
long arms uh he's someone
01:01:38.865 --> 01:01:40.067
that can hold up at a
01:01:40.126 --> 01:01:42.128
tackle position so curious
01:01:42.168 --> 01:01:43.590
to see kind of what his
01:01:43.650 --> 01:01:46.192
plan is and then uh calvin
01:01:46.231 --> 01:01:47.532
gilliam he was kind of a
01:01:47.592 --> 01:01:49.193
late ad right after the
01:01:49.233 --> 01:01:50.894
bowl game I think we saw you know
01:01:51.695 --> 01:01:53.458
You mentioned that, you know, last year,
01:01:53.478 --> 01:01:54.719
a lot of portal ads this
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:55.940
year is a little tougher
01:01:55.981 --> 01:01:56.942
just with the numbers,
01:01:57.143 --> 01:01:58.463
the scholarship situation.
01:01:58.483 --> 01:01:59.786
So, you know,
01:02:00.226 --> 01:02:01.467
attrition had to happen for
01:02:01.507 --> 01:02:02.248
him to come in.
01:02:02.668 --> 01:02:04.311
He's a guy that I'm excited to see.
01:02:04.391 --> 01:02:06.213
He also looks like an absolute unit.
01:02:07.034 --> 01:02:08.516
Just some of the photos I saw from,
01:02:08.795 --> 01:02:09.016
you know,
01:02:09.817 --> 01:02:10.637
uh, of him.
01:02:10.978 --> 01:02:12.958
He looks totally built to,
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:13.980
to be in there and,
01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:15.681
and handle extended action.
01:02:16.161 --> 01:02:16.641
We'll see.
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:18.262
I know he's been in a limited role,
01:02:18.322 --> 01:02:19.623
but he's definitely capable
01:02:19.663 --> 01:02:20.943
of being a full-time starter.
01:02:21.304 --> 01:02:22.885
And then Aeneas Peebles, he's probably,
01:02:23.065 --> 01:02:25.467
you know, he he's the crown of this crop.
01:02:26.067 --> 01:02:26.226
Um,
01:02:26.567 --> 01:02:28.108
he's the guy that's going to come in and,
01:02:28.427 --> 01:02:29.128
you know, really,
01:02:29.168 --> 01:02:30.329
really excited about him.
01:02:30.389 --> 01:02:31.550
I think like you,
01:02:31.650 --> 01:02:32.371
you think about all the
01:02:32.391 --> 01:02:34.172
guys that you lose from last year,
01:02:34.351 --> 01:02:35.052
and then you bring in
01:02:35.112 --> 01:02:36.313
someone that's maybe better
01:02:36.353 --> 01:02:36.994
than all of them.
01:02:37.393 --> 01:02:38.514
You know, I would hate to say that,
01:02:38.934 --> 01:02:39.114
but it,
01:02:39.414 --> 01:02:42.458
you know could be true um so
01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.601
definitely a huge huge ad I
01:02:45.641 --> 01:02:47.003
think all of them are very
01:02:47.043 --> 01:02:48.485
strategic a lot of them
01:02:48.565 --> 01:02:50.628
have various connections to
01:02:50.648 --> 01:02:52.068
the coaching staff so I
01:02:52.088 --> 01:02:53.271
think they did a good job
01:02:53.391 --> 01:02:54.271
even though it's a small
01:02:54.351 --> 01:02:55.612
class they identified what
01:02:55.632 --> 01:02:57.554
they needed uh and brought
01:02:57.574 --> 01:02:58.876
in guys that can you know
01:02:59.237 --> 01:03:00.277
plug and play right away
01:03:02.099 --> 01:03:02.501
Agreed.
01:03:02.521 --> 01:03:02.501
100%.
01:03:03.382 --> 01:03:03.961
All right,
01:03:04.902 --> 01:03:06.324
let's flip again and let's head to 2025.
01:03:06.324 --> 01:03:08.206
And I think Shelton's got a
01:03:08.246 --> 01:03:10.329
question for you concerning
01:03:10.349 --> 01:03:12.858
the class of 2025.
01:03:12.858 --> 01:03:14.039
yeah well I wanted to look
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:15.882
kind of a big picture at vt
01:03:15.922 --> 01:03:17.822
recruiting um so I'm a big
01:03:17.842 --> 01:03:19.043
numbers guy and over the
01:03:19.083 --> 01:03:19.985
summer I spent some time
01:03:20.045 --> 01:03:20.925
working on a recruiting
01:03:20.945 --> 01:03:22.146
database last 10 years or
01:03:22.206 --> 01:03:23.768
so just looking at how
01:03:23.827 --> 01:03:24.889
classes ended up and how
01:03:24.929 --> 01:03:25.628
different programs
01:03:26.010 --> 01:03:27.210
succeeded particularly I
01:03:27.231 --> 01:03:28.731
looked at geography so I
01:03:28.751 --> 01:03:29.452
looked at you know
01:03:29.833 --> 01:03:30.793
different states virginia
01:03:30.813 --> 01:03:31.554
north carolina sort of
01:03:31.574 --> 01:03:32.655
those mid-atlantic
01:03:32.755 --> 01:03:33.615
recruiting battleground
01:03:33.675 --> 01:03:35.637
states and I found a couple
01:03:35.677 --> 01:03:37.239
interesting observations so
01:03:38.047 --> 01:03:39.148
Over the past few years or so,
01:03:39.168 --> 01:03:40.469
the state of North Carolina
01:03:40.510 --> 01:03:41.871
has absolutely outpaced
01:03:41.891 --> 01:03:42.652
Virginia in terms of
01:03:42.693 --> 01:03:43.813
producing NFL draft picks.
01:03:43.914 --> 01:03:44.534
And that's generally
01:03:44.554 --> 01:03:45.556
speaking how I like to sort
01:03:45.576 --> 01:03:46.677
of define success,
01:03:46.697 --> 01:03:48.480
because I think in order to win, you know,
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:49.721
eight to 10 games, the power level,
01:03:49.740 --> 01:03:51.063
you got to have NFL players in your team.
01:03:52.106 --> 01:03:54.065
And from 2016 to 2020,
01:03:54.065 --> 01:03:55.407
the conversion rate for
01:03:56.126 --> 01:03:57.047
Virginia Blue Chippers
01:03:57.306 --> 01:03:58.746
getting to the NFL was pretty bad.
01:03:58.847 --> 01:03:59.086
I mean,
01:03:59.527 --> 01:04:00.608
one of the worst states in the country.
01:04:01.128 --> 01:04:02.768
So obviously, you know, things can change.
01:04:02.927 --> 01:04:03.867
And when Brian got here,
01:04:03.907 --> 01:04:05.228
he talked about recruiting the footprint,
01:04:05.268 --> 01:04:06.009
recruiting Virginia.
01:04:06.309 --> 01:04:07.088
I think people sometimes
01:04:07.108 --> 01:04:08.608
conflict those things because obviously,
01:04:09.050 --> 01:04:11.489
you know, North Carolina, the DMV,
01:04:11.969 --> 01:04:12.670
Tennessee, etc.
01:04:12.710 --> 01:04:13.670
Those are all big parts of
01:04:13.690 --> 01:04:15.050
Virginia's recruiting or
01:04:15.291 --> 01:04:16.251
prize recruiting footprint.
01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:18.440
So what I wanted to ask was
01:04:19.161 --> 01:04:20.943
with obviously prize got a lot of,
01:04:21.083 --> 01:04:21.423
you know,
01:04:22.784 --> 01:04:23.965
he's got a lot of commits from Virginia,
01:04:24.005 --> 01:04:24.967
some highly rated prospects.
01:04:25.827 --> 01:04:27.809
Do you see the overall
01:04:27.869 --> 01:04:28.969
talent level in Virginia
01:04:28.989 --> 01:04:30.130
and in Virginia high school
01:04:30.150 --> 01:04:30.851
football improving?
01:04:31.271 --> 01:04:32.152
And how do you feel like the
01:04:32.172 --> 01:04:32.932
staff has gone about in
01:04:32.952 --> 01:04:34.614
terms of just balancing, you know,
01:04:34.634 --> 01:04:37.076
how they've managed between, you know,
01:04:37.096 --> 01:04:38.157
getting guys from Virginia
01:04:38.317 --> 01:04:40.878
and Maryland and DC and North Carolina?
01:04:40.898 --> 01:04:41.500
How do you feel like that
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:42.641
has all sort of come together?
01:04:43.327 --> 01:04:43.568
Yeah,
01:04:43.588 --> 01:04:45.309
I definitely feel like the overall
01:04:45.349 --> 01:04:47.371
talent pool of Virginia has gone up.
01:04:47.751 --> 01:04:48.592
I think it was a couple
01:04:48.652 --> 01:04:50.554
years ago I was looking at the top 10,
01:04:50.554 --> 01:04:51.516
and I was looking at guys
01:04:51.536 --> 01:04:53.217
that were highly rated four stars,
01:04:53.277 --> 01:04:54.318
and I was like, there's no way.
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:55.780
There's absolutely no way
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:57.943
these guys are rated this way.
01:04:58.242 --> 01:04:59.443
I think there was kind of a weird –
01:05:00.405 --> 01:05:01.746
mass exodus with some of the
01:05:01.786 --> 01:05:02.385
bigger schools,
01:05:02.445 --> 01:05:04.027
especially in Virginia Beach.
01:05:04.487 --> 01:05:05.288
A lot of guys that were
01:05:05.347 --> 01:05:06.469
transferring out kind of
01:05:06.528 --> 01:05:08.489
programs falling through on funding.
01:05:08.791 --> 01:05:09.871
They weren't able to attract
01:05:09.931 --> 01:05:11.612
as many top talents to their school.
01:05:11.652 --> 01:05:13.112
So those guys were going out of state.
01:05:13.753 --> 01:05:15.355
And I think that was a big
01:05:15.434 --> 01:05:17.376
reason that we saw for a couple of years.
01:05:18.257 --> 01:05:19.777
It was right around COVID
01:05:20.177 --> 01:05:21.619
that we saw a huge drop off
01:05:21.659 --> 01:05:22.960
in Virginia specifically.
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:24.481
But I think things have kind
01:05:24.521 --> 01:05:25.581
of come back together.
01:05:25.961 --> 01:05:27.061
Like we see schools like
01:05:27.181 --> 01:05:29.304
Oscar Smith are on the right track again.
01:05:30.304 --> 01:05:31.425
bringing in more talent,
01:05:31.664 --> 01:05:33.684
at least collegiate talent wise.
01:05:34.125 --> 01:05:35.606
I think Maryland's always
01:05:35.626 --> 01:05:36.405
going to be huge.
01:05:36.766 --> 01:05:37.686
A lot of private schools,
01:05:37.706 --> 01:05:38.987
a lot of big time schools there.
01:05:39.327 --> 01:05:40.487
And North Carolina has
01:05:40.567 --> 01:05:42.327
really made a major
01:05:42.407 --> 01:05:43.788
emphasis on bringing in
01:05:44.148 --> 01:05:47.088
talent and really investing
01:05:47.128 --> 01:05:48.210
in high school football.
01:05:48.530 --> 01:05:49.570
So I think we've been seeing
01:05:49.590 --> 01:05:50.451
that for a while.
01:05:50.570 --> 01:05:51.771
North Carolina's definitely
01:05:52.150 --> 01:05:52.992
i mean there was that whole
01:05:53.032 --> 01:05:54.251
movement I think it was
01:05:54.793 --> 01:05:56.452
2018's class where you know
01:05:56.472 --> 01:05:58.914
it was like nc2vt because
01:05:59.235 --> 01:06:00.295
there quite literally was
01:06:00.335 --> 01:06:01.416
not enough talent in
01:06:01.476 --> 01:06:03.396
virginia to you know make a
01:06:03.436 --> 01:06:04.918
football team so I
01:06:04.978 --> 01:06:06.398
definitely think that you
01:06:06.418 --> 01:06:08.000
know the staff is cognizant
01:06:08.260 --> 01:06:09.239
of all of that they'll
01:06:09.260 --> 01:06:10.380
probably try to pick a
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:11.681
handful of guys every year
01:06:11.742 --> 01:06:13.583
from the dmv from north
01:06:13.623 --> 01:06:15.443
carolina you know if
01:06:15.543 --> 01:06:16.423
everything were to go to
01:06:16.463 --> 01:06:18.405
plan you you would get it you know
01:06:19.485 --> 01:06:21.507
eight to 10 guys from Virginia.
01:06:22.367 --> 01:06:23.586
Your next highest pool would
01:06:23.626 --> 01:06:25.947
be from North Carolina and then the DMV,
01:06:27.268 --> 01:06:28.487
specifically like Maryland.
01:06:28.568 --> 01:06:31.429
So has been I think Virginia
01:06:31.449 --> 01:06:33.389
is still catching up in terms of talent.
01:06:33.650 --> 01:06:34.849
I think it's going to take a little bit,
01:06:34.929 --> 01:06:36.130
but there's definitely some
01:06:36.190 --> 01:06:37.010
legitimate talent.
01:06:37.050 --> 01:06:39.331
We saw last cycle, the cycle before,
01:06:40.411 --> 01:06:41.771
but it's definitely ramping up.
01:06:43.431 --> 01:06:43.891
It is to hear.
01:06:44.873 --> 01:06:46.213
Yes, really good news here.
01:06:46.835 --> 01:06:47.255
Yeah,
01:06:47.275 --> 01:06:48.757
let's start there because we got 20-25.
01:06:49.418 --> 01:06:51.340
We already got some verbals
01:06:51.380 --> 01:06:52.601
from some of those Virginia kids.
01:06:53.061 --> 01:06:54.304
You talked about the 7-5-7.
01:06:54.664 --> 01:06:55.565
We got a couple of those
01:06:55.625 --> 01:06:57.907
guys along with Carter
01:06:57.947 --> 01:06:59.228
Stallard in the boat right now.
01:07:01.592 --> 01:07:02.753
What's the buzz about the
01:07:02.793 --> 01:07:03.673
Hokies already grabbing
01:07:03.815 --> 01:07:04.896
three Virginia kids,
01:07:05.335 --> 01:07:06.677
including those two guys from the 7-5-7?
01:07:07.798 --> 01:07:08.599
yeah it's out it's
01:07:09.059 --> 01:07:11.983
absolutely huge I mean um I
01:07:12.023 --> 01:07:14.385
think specifically the 757
01:07:14.385 --> 01:07:15.746
has been a thorn in the
01:07:15.786 --> 01:07:17.528
heel for virginia tech for
01:07:17.568 --> 01:07:19.050
the past decade and
01:07:19.391 --> 01:07:20.391
virginia tech is really
01:07:20.452 --> 01:07:21.672
making major strides in the
01:07:21.753 --> 01:07:23.594
area I think you think of
01:07:23.795 --> 01:07:25.115
even last year a guy like
01:07:25.135 --> 01:07:26.498
brody adams I know that
01:07:26.538 --> 01:07:27.679
there's a lot of pessimism
01:07:27.778 --> 01:07:28.340
at the beginning
01:07:28.860 --> 01:07:29.740
you know you get a guy like
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.262
that in the boat green run
01:07:31.302 --> 01:07:32.643
guy now you got two more
01:07:32.702 --> 01:07:34.304
green run guys like he was
01:07:34.563 --> 01:07:36.505
huge and and getting
01:07:36.545 --> 01:07:38.347
knowledge and jay into the
01:07:38.407 --> 01:07:40.668
boat um you know both guys
01:07:40.748 --> 01:07:42.829
really rely on him and you
01:07:42.849 --> 01:07:43.530
know that was a huge
01:07:43.590 --> 01:07:44.951
conversation being able to
01:07:44.990 --> 01:07:46.632
walk into schools and and
01:07:46.791 --> 01:07:47.972
you know have legitimate
01:07:48.012 --> 01:07:49.393
conversations how's my guy
01:07:49.434 --> 01:07:51.215
doing at school uh you know
01:07:52.396 --> 01:07:53.295
It's not just, hey,
01:07:53.356 --> 01:07:55.856
I'm here to see who's your best guy.
01:07:55.896 --> 01:07:57.617
Like, can we get someone to come visit?
01:07:57.677 --> 01:07:59.318
Like, you're not opening doors anymore.
01:07:59.358 --> 01:08:01.199
I think they're they're open now.
01:08:01.420 --> 01:08:04.521
So definitely the 757 has been great.
01:08:04.621 --> 01:08:05.681
I think Fontel has done a
01:08:05.721 --> 01:08:07.762
great job in Richmond specifically.
01:08:08.282 --> 01:08:09.262
And then, you know,
01:08:09.302 --> 01:08:11.342
we've seen the last two off seasons.
01:08:11.684 --> 01:08:13.563
The coaches have done chalk talks,
01:08:14.043 --> 01:08:15.184
going to different areas,
01:08:15.224 --> 01:08:16.604
making sure to get to the 757 this year.
01:08:18.166 --> 01:08:19.447
A lot of great feedback from
01:08:19.466 --> 01:08:20.226
the coaches there,
01:08:20.488 --> 01:08:22.208
like really excited about the program.
01:08:22.609 --> 01:08:23.310
I think, you know,
01:08:24.390 --> 01:08:25.911
you look back at the Fuente days,
01:08:25.951 --> 01:08:27.311
and I hate to say it, but, you know,
01:08:27.351 --> 01:08:28.313
there were some schools
01:08:28.353 --> 01:08:29.694
that completely closed the
01:08:29.734 --> 01:08:30.734
door on Virginia Tech,
01:08:31.034 --> 01:08:32.256
like did not want to send
01:08:32.536 --> 01:08:33.576
their kids to the school.
01:08:33.976 --> 01:08:36.377
And I think now, like very open-minded,
01:08:36.398 --> 01:08:38.199
I think people really want
01:08:38.220 --> 01:08:39.881
to give Virginia Tech the first shot,
01:08:39.940 --> 01:08:40.541
which is great.
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:41.521
I think that's why you're
01:08:41.542 --> 01:08:42.481
seeing a lot of these guys
01:08:42.542 --> 01:08:44.384
lock in official visits right away.
01:08:45.463 --> 01:08:47.104
And, you know, build more relationships.
01:08:47.204 --> 01:08:48.005
I will say, you know,
01:08:48.045 --> 01:08:49.506
it's still like they're
01:08:49.525 --> 01:08:50.485
doing a great job.
01:08:50.646 --> 01:08:52.087
I think Virginia Tech is
01:08:52.186 --> 01:08:53.068
right on schedule.
01:08:54.167 --> 01:08:55.929
But but these relationships
01:08:56.009 --> 01:08:57.670
take years and years and years.
01:08:58.369 --> 01:08:59.270
And, you know,
01:08:59.289 --> 01:09:00.591
they're doing a great job now.
01:09:00.810 --> 01:09:02.811
And I think it's perfectly
01:09:02.851 --> 01:09:03.652
where they need to be,
01:09:04.271 --> 01:09:05.313
but still work to be done.
01:09:05.332 --> 01:09:08.514
And kind of to piggyback off of that,
01:09:08.814 --> 01:09:11.314
what what you run into with this,
01:09:11.595 --> 01:09:11.836
you know.
01:09:13.256 --> 01:09:14.237
You just start to get those
01:09:14.277 --> 01:09:16.837
kids back on campus and in the games.
01:09:18.418 --> 01:09:19.679
Just say we'll take Brody Adams,
01:09:19.719 --> 01:09:20.439
for example.
01:09:22.699 --> 01:09:25.421
The reason it's so big to
01:09:25.461 --> 01:09:26.502
have a kid like that on
01:09:26.542 --> 01:09:29.302
campus is he can talk to
01:09:29.323 --> 01:09:30.403
the people in his high school,
01:09:31.063 --> 01:09:32.264
not just about football.
01:09:32.484 --> 01:09:34.524
How's your quality of life in Blacksburg?
01:09:35.064 --> 01:09:36.005
Where do you get your hair
01:09:36.045 --> 01:09:37.005
cut when you're there?
01:09:37.284 --> 01:09:38.445
What do you like to eat when you're there?
01:09:39.430 --> 01:09:40.351
Where can I go fishing?
01:09:40.671 --> 01:09:41.252
You know what I'm saying?
01:09:41.292 --> 01:09:42.052
Things like that,
01:09:42.354 --> 01:09:44.475
the kids talk about besides football.
01:09:44.876 --> 01:09:45.877
But if you don't have people
01:09:45.957 --> 01:09:47.257
on rosters that can go and
01:09:47.958 --> 01:09:49.761
actually talk and give that, you know,
01:09:49.820 --> 01:09:52.143
that that that, you know, word of mouth,
01:09:52.724 --> 01:09:54.545
which is what we didn't have for so long.
01:09:54.845 --> 01:09:55.105
I mean,
01:09:55.126 --> 01:09:56.407
you don't you don't have somebody
01:09:56.426 --> 01:09:57.688
that's out there advocating for you.
01:09:57.728 --> 01:09:58.769
So, like you said,
01:09:58.809 --> 01:09:59.689
those doors have been
01:09:59.850 --> 01:10:01.652
opened and kind of takes us to.
01:10:03.444 --> 01:10:05.666
the next point of what we're looking at.
01:10:05.706 --> 01:10:08.027
You know, when you were here last time,
01:10:08.067 --> 01:10:08.268
man,
01:10:08.287 --> 01:10:10.288
you told us some stuff and I'm going
01:10:10.309 --> 01:10:10.770
to be real.
01:10:10.869 --> 01:10:11.810
I didn't, I didn't believe you.
01:10:13.752 --> 01:10:15.172
Like some of the names you was calling.
01:10:15.212 --> 01:10:15.472
I was like,
01:10:15.493 --> 01:10:17.354
there's no way that that key is
01:10:17.373 --> 01:10:18.015
looking this way.
01:10:18.055 --> 01:10:18.895
You know what I'm saying?
01:10:18.916 --> 01:10:19.355
Speaking of,
01:10:19.796 --> 01:10:20.957
I hate to keep bringing Brody up,
01:10:20.997 --> 01:10:22.478
but speaking of Keelan Adams,
01:10:22.518 --> 01:10:23.139
like I was like,
01:10:23.158 --> 01:10:24.399
there's no way that he's
01:10:24.420 --> 01:10:25.860
looking at Alabama.
01:10:25.900 --> 01:10:27.221
He's looking at Ohio state.
01:10:27.242 --> 01:10:28.722
He's looking at South Carolina and,
01:10:28.943 --> 01:10:31.046
And he commits and goes to Tech.
01:10:31.105 --> 01:10:32.929
So a lot of these kids that
01:10:32.969 --> 01:10:33.750
we're seeing now,
01:10:34.131 --> 01:10:34.752
you know what I'm saying,
01:10:34.771 --> 01:10:36.274
this kind of got a Hokie
01:10:36.314 --> 01:10:37.735
fan like myself like, oh, yeah,
01:10:37.775 --> 01:10:38.396
we got a shot.
01:10:38.858 --> 01:10:42.141
You know, what is it, Brett Clatterbond?
01:10:42.162 --> 01:10:42.984
Mm-hmm.
01:10:43.423 --> 01:10:44.746
You know, a kid like that that –
01:10:45.685 --> 01:10:47.028
somebody like me thought, okay,
01:10:47.047 --> 01:10:48.990
he's going to Clemson, you know, then,
01:10:49.030 --> 01:10:50.632
and you just keep watching and you keep,
01:10:51.033 --> 01:10:52.435
you know, hearing things and you see, Hey,
01:10:52.475 --> 01:10:53.476
we do got a shot, you know,
01:10:53.497 --> 01:10:54.998
we're in there, uh, you know,
01:10:55.038 --> 01:10:58.203
Deuce Edwards, uh, Messiah, the loan,
01:10:58.543 --> 01:11:01.627
the names go on and on of kids that, that,
01:11:01.648 --> 01:11:01.768
um,
01:11:02.529 --> 01:11:04.110
I feel like we have a shot at,
01:11:04.992 --> 01:11:06.533
but you're the expert.
01:11:06.613 --> 01:11:08.555
So out of those kind of high
01:11:08.615 --> 01:11:09.957
ranking kids out of Virginia,
01:11:10.458 --> 01:11:11.800
have you seen, you know,
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:13.561
kids or do you have any
01:11:13.582 --> 01:11:15.304
kind of expectations for
01:11:15.345 --> 01:11:16.645
Virginia Tech with any of
01:11:16.706 --> 01:11:18.028
those high ranking Virginia kids?
01:11:18.423 --> 01:11:19.083
Yeah, I mean,
01:11:19.144 --> 01:11:20.524
I wish I could come on here and say,
01:11:20.545 --> 01:11:20.824
you know,
01:11:20.824 --> 01:11:22.645
100 percent this guy's coming in.
01:11:22.704 --> 01:11:23.546
I think, you know,
01:11:24.006 --> 01:11:25.025
this year is a lot more
01:11:25.065 --> 01:11:27.046
competitive in a good way.
01:11:27.167 --> 01:11:29.608
I think last year we saw
01:11:29.707 --> 01:11:30.967
some key battles that
01:11:31.028 --> 01:11:32.208
Virginia Tech was able to
01:11:32.309 --> 01:11:34.248
win and a few other battles
01:11:34.309 --> 01:11:35.409
they were never in.
01:11:35.909 --> 01:11:37.690
I think when you look at this cycle,
01:11:38.171 --> 01:11:39.211
you have a lot of talent
01:11:39.251 --> 01:11:40.431
specifically in Virginia.
01:11:40.452 --> 01:11:42.311
And I think Virginia Tech is
01:11:42.372 --> 01:11:44.353
at the very least in every single battle.
01:11:44.853 --> 01:11:46.493
And I think that's huge for this year.
01:11:46.854 --> 01:11:48.255
You mentioned Brett like
01:11:48.515 --> 01:11:49.536
this was a guy that was a
01:11:49.636 --> 01:11:51.117
shoe in for Notre Dame.
01:11:51.578 --> 01:11:53.658
Things kind of changed there a little bit.
01:11:55.637 --> 01:11:57.099
I wasn't sure that Virginia
01:11:57.139 --> 01:11:58.699
Tech was really ever
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:00.100
seriously considered.
01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:01.282
And then all of a sudden,
01:12:02.962 --> 01:12:04.503
they're very much in the mix.
01:12:04.564 --> 01:12:06.326
I know education is huge for him.
01:12:06.645 --> 01:12:07.747
They put out a huge pitch
01:12:07.806 --> 01:12:09.747
about Virginia Tech's education there.
01:12:09.768 --> 01:12:11.628
I think the parents are very
01:12:11.668 --> 01:12:12.550
involved as well.
01:12:13.229 --> 01:12:14.131
He's a guy that's like
01:12:14.230 --> 01:12:15.931
complete ghost mode when it
01:12:15.971 --> 01:12:16.712
comes to media.
01:12:17.613 --> 01:12:19.194
Which is fine, you know, fair enough.
01:12:19.314 --> 01:12:22.176
But so it is tough to get intel on him,
01:12:22.235 --> 01:12:23.396
but he is planning an
01:12:23.436 --> 01:12:26.099
official visit to Virginia Tech,
01:12:26.139 --> 01:12:27.319
which just kind of shows
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:29.560
his interest level in the Hokies.
01:12:29.801 --> 01:12:31.502
I think he's taking it very seriously.
01:12:31.523 --> 01:12:32.722
I think right now it's
01:12:32.802 --> 01:12:34.664
between Clemson and Virginia Tech.
01:12:35.685 --> 01:12:36.787
So we'll see what happens there.
01:12:36.827 --> 01:12:38.287
I know Clemson is absolutely
01:12:38.368 --> 01:12:39.890
cleaning up right now in Virginia.
01:12:41.171 --> 01:12:41.431
You know,
01:12:41.471 --> 01:12:42.893
they're they're a program that
01:12:43.092 --> 01:12:44.194
has a lot of things figured
01:12:44.274 --> 01:12:45.095
out when it comes to high
01:12:45.115 --> 01:12:45.855
school recruiting.
01:12:47.618 --> 01:12:47.878
You know,
01:12:48.118 --> 01:12:49.980
Mika Matthews is another guy top
01:12:50.020 --> 01:12:51.502
of the top of the top of the list.
01:12:52.222 --> 01:12:56.003
a dual sport athlete, um, plays baseball.
01:12:56.743 --> 01:12:57.724
I know they brought him out
01:12:57.804 --> 01:12:58.944
to the facilities there.
01:12:58.963 --> 01:12:59.003
He,
01:12:59.423 --> 01:13:01.385
he was able to kind of chat with
01:13:01.465 --> 01:13:02.805
everyone on, you know,
01:13:02.864 --> 01:13:05.145
both for baseball and for football.
01:13:05.185 --> 01:13:06.565
They see him as a wide receiver.
01:13:07.185 --> 01:13:08.345
He's a guy that sits very
01:13:08.386 --> 01:13:09.666
well with Virginia tech.
01:13:09.725 --> 01:13:11.926
Like he's, he's kind of cut his top group.
01:13:11.987 --> 01:13:13.606
I know UNC is big on him.
01:13:13.667 --> 01:13:15.087
They're the ones to watch out for,
01:13:15.606 --> 01:13:17.046
but Virginia tech is right there.
01:13:17.568 --> 01:13:17.627
Uh,
01:13:17.667 --> 01:13:19.108
they've done a really good job with him.
01:13:19.127 --> 01:13:19.167
Uh,
01:13:20.448 --> 01:13:21.988
Caleb Williams is another guy.
01:13:22.009 --> 01:13:23.871
He's been to Virginia Tech multiple,
01:13:23.911 --> 01:13:24.930
multiple times now.
01:13:25.391 --> 01:13:27.233
He's set four of his official visits.
01:13:27.712 --> 01:13:29.414
Tennessee is a big player for him.
01:13:30.175 --> 01:13:31.815
As you'll see with all these guys,
01:13:32.115 --> 01:13:33.957
I'm mentioning big name programs.
01:13:34.717 --> 01:13:36.139
Virginia Tech really has to
01:13:36.198 --> 01:13:37.220
battle against some of
01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:38.180
these big programs.
01:13:39.100 --> 01:13:40.942
But they have the last shot at him.
01:13:41.322 --> 01:13:44.203
You know, he's a legit 6'6", 250 kid.
01:13:45.543 --> 01:13:47.125
You know, he's he's going to be huge.
01:13:47.204 --> 01:13:48.024
I know that they're really
01:13:48.064 --> 01:13:49.525
trying to get bigger in the trenches.
01:13:49.966 --> 01:13:51.327
And he's a guy that is just
01:13:51.367 --> 01:13:52.367
an athletic freak.
01:13:53.608 --> 01:13:54.507
So he's huge.
01:13:54.568 --> 01:13:56.368
He's locked in his official.
01:13:57.149 --> 01:13:58.630
Deuce Edwards is a guy that
01:13:58.710 --> 01:13:59.729
I thought was going to be a
01:13:59.770 --> 01:14:00.770
hokey in January.
01:14:01.931 --> 01:14:03.832
He's someone that decided to
01:14:03.872 --> 01:14:05.395
kind of wait out the process.
01:14:06.536 --> 01:14:07.737
He's gotten a lot more
01:14:07.856 --> 01:14:09.358
interest from Power Five schools,
01:14:09.417 --> 01:14:10.479
a lot more offers.
01:14:11.260 --> 01:14:13.881
He does have an official visit lined up.
01:14:14.202 --> 01:14:15.603
I would say Virginia Tech is
01:14:15.643 --> 01:14:17.145
the team to beat for him right now.
01:14:17.904 --> 01:14:19.365
Really, really good cornerback.
01:14:20.546 --> 01:14:22.448
Probably out of all the guys on the list,
01:14:22.927 --> 01:14:24.189
he's the one that probably
01:14:24.229 --> 01:14:25.569
sits at the top right now
01:14:25.609 --> 01:14:28.030
in terms of my confidence level.
01:14:28.912 --> 01:14:31.113
Messiah DeLome, Warwick guy,
01:14:31.292 --> 01:14:32.333
if that sounds familiar.
01:14:32.354 --> 01:14:33.814
Oh, yeah.
01:14:34.595 --> 01:14:37.296
This quarterback came from
01:14:37.315 --> 01:14:40.176
the absolute beast, you know,
01:14:40.756 --> 01:14:42.796
is really in tune with OSU right now.
01:14:42.817 --> 01:14:46.578
I think another good staple
01:14:46.859 --> 01:14:49.538
of your recruiting is not only this cycle,
01:14:49.578 --> 01:14:51.319
the last cycle to Ohio
01:14:51.340 --> 01:14:52.899
State really tried to get a
01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:55.140
couple of guys from the commitment list.
01:14:55.820 --> 01:14:56.841
And there's a lot of battles
01:14:56.881 --> 01:14:58.682
right now involved with Ohio State.
01:14:59.122 --> 01:15:00.283
So, you know,
01:15:00.344 --> 01:15:01.463
Virginia Tech is looking in
01:15:01.484 --> 01:15:03.425
the right places to find some talent.
01:15:05.086 --> 01:15:06.065
Jalen Gilchrist,
01:15:06.266 --> 01:15:07.487
he's probably the number
01:15:07.567 --> 01:15:09.047
one guy when it comes to
01:15:09.307 --> 01:15:10.168
the recruiting board.
01:15:11.969 --> 01:15:15.711
USC is or South Carolina, I should say,
01:15:15.871 --> 01:15:18.393
is is the top team right now.
01:15:19.472 --> 01:15:20.434
I think there was a lot of
01:15:20.493 --> 01:15:21.354
ground to make up.
01:15:21.414 --> 01:15:23.055
He was kind of a kid and, you know,
01:15:23.095 --> 01:15:24.396
there are various guys
01:15:24.476 --> 01:15:25.077
within the state of
01:15:25.117 --> 01:15:26.917
Virginia that envision
01:15:26.957 --> 01:15:28.599
playing college ball in the SEC,
01:15:28.658 --> 01:15:30.640
going out of state, kind of, you know,
01:15:30.860 --> 01:15:32.782
going towards the nicer things in life.
01:15:33.082 --> 01:15:34.764
And I think Virginia Tech
01:15:34.783 --> 01:15:35.884
really had to come in there
01:15:35.984 --> 01:15:37.444
and make up a lot of ground
01:15:37.465 --> 01:15:38.886
to convince him that, hey,
01:15:38.945 --> 01:15:40.667
maybe staying at home isn't so bad.
01:15:40.747 --> 01:15:42.748
Like, here's the vision we have for you.
01:15:43.488 --> 01:15:44.770
He's a top 100 guy.
01:15:45.331 --> 01:15:47.051
He knows that he's loved at Virginia Tech.
01:15:47.886 --> 01:15:51.207
And I think while a lot of
01:15:51.228 --> 01:15:52.769
the people at 24-7 would
01:15:52.809 --> 01:15:54.810
say that South Carolina is
01:15:55.090 --> 01:15:55.949
on top right now,
01:15:56.369 --> 01:15:58.470
I think Virginia Tech is not far behind.
01:15:59.192 --> 01:16:00.231
He's planning an official
01:16:00.271 --> 01:16:02.273
visit that should be coming up.
01:16:02.773 --> 01:16:03.712
And I think that's a huge
01:16:03.773 --> 01:16:04.814
sign of his interest.
01:16:04.934 --> 01:16:06.033
If he really just wanted to
01:16:06.054 --> 01:16:06.675
go out of state,
01:16:06.734 --> 01:16:09.115
I think he's been to Virginia Tech.
01:16:09.155 --> 01:16:10.416
He's seen what they have to offer.
01:16:10.496 --> 01:16:12.136
But I think he really is listening.
01:16:12.837 --> 01:16:13.277
So we'll see.
01:16:14.997 --> 01:16:15.278
And, yeah,
01:16:15.337 --> 01:16:16.840
those are some of the top guys
01:16:16.939 --> 01:16:18.001
in Virginia.
01:16:18.761 --> 01:16:19.141
Mateo,
01:16:19.521 --> 01:16:21.724
you ain't got to say much on this
01:16:22.243 --> 01:16:23.805
because I know you got a job to do,
01:16:24.105 --> 01:16:25.367
and I don't want to interfere with that.
01:16:26.027 --> 01:16:27.368
But I got to speak on something,
01:16:27.427 --> 01:16:29.090
and I'm going to ask y'all.
01:16:29.869 --> 01:16:31.771
Have y'all seen Shane Beamer
01:16:33.113 --> 01:16:34.975
talking about his coaches
01:16:35.095 --> 01:16:36.815
and bringing in new coaches and people?
01:16:37.155 --> 01:16:37.997
Have y'all seen that?
01:16:38.457 --> 01:16:39.018
I have not.
01:16:39.177 --> 01:16:39.618
I've heard.
01:16:39.637 --> 01:16:40.859
I have not seen the tape yet.
01:16:41.859 --> 01:16:43.641
Shane Beamer is a madman right now.
01:16:44.853 --> 01:16:46.413
I hope he don't win a game next year.
01:16:46.594 --> 01:16:47.734
I hope he loses every
01:16:47.795 --> 01:16:49.015
fucking game that he plays
01:16:49.497 --> 01:16:53.260
and nobody goes to South Carolina.
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:54.961
So just because you brought
01:16:55.020 --> 01:16:57.061
up Jalen Gilchrist, I thought about that.
01:16:57.682 --> 01:16:58.703
I've heard a lot about that
01:16:58.764 --> 01:16:59.444
recruiting battle.
01:17:00.005 --> 01:17:00.925
And, you know,
01:17:01.086 --> 01:17:02.966
I can't speak too much
01:17:02.987 --> 01:17:03.967
because I'm not there.
01:17:04.207 --> 01:17:05.328
It's secondhand information,
01:17:06.009 --> 01:17:07.569
but pretty reliable sources.
01:17:08.411 --> 01:17:11.413
Shane is a motherfucker, man.
01:17:12.975 --> 01:17:17.298
He does not, I don't know what it is,
01:17:17.538 --> 01:17:18.439
but he does not want
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.681
Virginia Tech to do anything.
01:17:20.761 --> 01:17:24.604
He is out to bury Virginia Tech,
01:17:24.926 --> 01:17:26.907
and he's got some bad stuff
01:17:26.927 --> 01:17:28.007
to say about Pride, man.
01:17:28.774 --> 01:17:30.855
So I don't know, man.
01:17:30.895 --> 01:17:31.775
I'm going to be interested
01:17:31.836 --> 01:17:33.136
to see if Shane makes it
01:17:33.176 --> 01:17:34.016
out of this next year.
01:17:34.277 --> 01:17:34.877
You know what I'm saying?
01:17:34.917 --> 01:17:36.398
All jokes aside, you know,
01:17:37.838 --> 01:17:39.479
I'm interested to see what he does.
01:17:39.538 --> 01:17:42.240
I mean, being in the middle of SEC country,
01:17:42.701 --> 01:17:44.280
like nobody's checking for
01:17:44.501 --> 01:17:45.181
South Carolina.
01:17:45.841 --> 01:17:47.863
when you start talking about SEC races.
01:17:49.604 --> 01:17:51.104
So I'm going to be
01:17:51.164 --> 01:17:51.925
interested to see what
01:17:51.944 --> 01:17:54.006
Shane does because Shane's
01:17:54.025 --> 01:17:54.846
got a lot to say about
01:17:54.867 --> 01:17:55.867
Virginia Tech right now.
01:17:55.987 --> 01:17:56.948
Yeah, he's a savage.
01:17:57.028 --> 01:17:58.309
That's all I'll say.
01:17:58.328 --> 01:17:58.469
Yeah.
01:17:58.828 --> 01:17:59.368
I was going to say,
01:17:59.408 --> 01:18:00.890
I wasn't going to ask you to say much,
01:18:00.989 --> 01:18:04.332
but I've got some stuff there.
01:18:04.771 --> 01:18:06.233
It's crazy to me because I'm like –
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:08.502
I'm thinking, like, we're Virginia Tech,
01:18:08.542 --> 01:18:08.722
man.
01:18:08.762 --> 01:18:10.645
We ain't making no noise for
01:18:10.706 --> 01:18:11.327
real like that.
01:18:11.827 --> 01:18:12.988
But he really hurt, man.
01:18:13.329 --> 01:18:13.989
He is hurt.
01:18:14.371 --> 01:18:15.032
You mean to tell you when
01:18:15.051 --> 01:18:16.253
you hear something like that,
01:18:17.255 --> 01:18:18.537
we can say in here, we can talk about it.
01:18:18.556 --> 01:18:20.038
That sounds like somebody's scared.
01:18:20.935 --> 01:18:23.096
Because he knows – well, hold on.
01:18:23.636 --> 01:18:24.337
He was there.
01:18:24.817 --> 01:18:26.217
He knows what happens when
01:18:26.257 --> 01:18:28.217
it starts rolling and they
01:18:28.257 --> 01:18:30.378
go down to 7-5 and they hit
01:18:30.418 --> 01:18:31.479
into North Carolina and
01:18:31.519 --> 01:18:32.759
they go into South Carolina
01:18:32.779 --> 01:18:33.920
and they go into Tennessee
01:18:33.939 --> 01:18:35.319
and they start pulling guys out.
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:37.121
He knows if that happens
01:18:37.180 --> 01:18:38.381
because of where he's recruiting,
01:18:38.661 --> 01:18:39.761
that's his top guys.
01:18:40.020 --> 01:18:41.162
And if we start picking them off,
01:18:41.402 --> 01:18:43.015
he knows he's –
01:18:43.015 --> 01:18:43.194
Well,
01:18:43.234 --> 01:18:44.657
right now he knows he has to go to
01:18:44.697 --> 01:18:46.038
the Mid-Atlantic to pull
01:18:46.078 --> 01:18:49.703
the caliber of players to compete.
01:18:49.783 --> 01:18:50.484
Just compete.
01:18:50.524 --> 01:18:51.524
Not even do any winning.
01:18:51.824 --> 01:18:53.606
Just fucking compete in the SEC.
01:18:54.668 --> 01:18:56.291
So if we start eating off
01:18:56.530 --> 01:18:57.972
where he feels comfortable...
01:18:59.140 --> 01:19:00.881
You know, I'm with Curtis a little bit.
01:19:00.900 --> 01:19:05.342
He's playing a little scared.
01:19:05.783 --> 01:19:06.863
He's full court press on
01:19:06.882 --> 01:19:07.722
Gilchrist right now.
01:19:08.382 --> 01:19:10.264
He's the one that's making the trips.
01:19:10.463 --> 01:19:12.583
He's full court press on
01:19:12.623 --> 01:19:15.265
that because he's a little nervous.
01:19:15.845 --> 01:19:16.664
But that's okay.
01:19:17.064 --> 01:19:17.625
That's okay.
01:19:18.345 --> 01:19:19.345
But you know what, Mate,
01:19:19.365 --> 01:19:20.046
you probably can speak a
01:19:20.126 --> 01:19:20.945
little bit to this,
01:19:21.065 --> 01:19:24.266
is when he got that job and
01:19:24.306 --> 01:19:26.148
where we were coming out
01:19:26.828 --> 01:19:28.007
and who he had on staff,
01:19:29.372 --> 01:19:30.252
Nobody was scared.
01:19:31.072 --> 01:19:33.212
Now you got Brent Prye, ace recruiter.
01:19:33.273 --> 01:19:34.893
You got Fontel, ace.
01:19:36.632 --> 01:19:37.993
The landscape has changed,
01:19:38.033 --> 01:19:39.413
so he knows he looks up at
01:19:39.434 --> 01:19:40.694
the alma mater and says,
01:19:41.453 --> 01:19:42.873
they ain't joking no more up there.
01:19:44.755 --> 01:19:48.015
Well, I'll say this just from my,
01:19:48.635 --> 01:19:49.716
some of it's speculation,
01:19:49.756 --> 01:19:50.975
but some of it's, like I said,
01:19:51.015 --> 01:19:52.256
some secondhand information.
01:19:52.636 --> 01:19:54.216
So the wide receiver coach
01:19:54.237 --> 01:19:56.096
that he had there, right, that left,
01:19:57.115 --> 01:19:59.837
he got demoted as a result
01:19:59.896 --> 01:20:02.979
of not getting certain recruits.
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:05.560
I'll say that.
01:20:05.859 --> 01:20:08.862
So what happened with him is
01:20:09.962 --> 01:20:11.422
he got demoted because he didn't,
01:20:12.118 --> 01:20:13.319
get certain recruits that
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:14.159
they thought were in their
01:20:14.180 --> 01:20:17.902
boat and I was like okay I
01:20:17.942 --> 01:20:18.601
ain't gonna say I didn't
01:20:18.622 --> 01:20:19.783
believe it but when he came
01:20:19.903 --> 01:20:21.304
out on the Curtis you gotta
01:20:21.323 --> 01:20:22.743
go watch it he's in the
01:20:22.783 --> 01:20:23.744
press conference he goes
01:20:24.204 --> 01:20:25.746
yeah I don't you know this
01:20:25.786 --> 01:20:27.127
guy he left and we got our
01:20:27.186 --> 01:20:28.247
money back from him and
01:20:28.306 --> 01:20:29.747
more and we brought in
01:20:29.807 --> 01:20:30.648
another guy that's even
01:20:30.688 --> 01:20:31.769
better than him yeah I was
01:20:31.809 --> 01:20:33.710
like I've just not heard a
01:20:33.810 --> 01:20:36.511
coach come out and say that
01:20:36.650 --> 01:20:37.771
and some you know what I'm saying like
01:20:38.493 --> 01:20:40.314
I guess if I'm a fan,
01:20:40.375 --> 01:20:42.516
I might try to gas it and go, man,
01:20:42.617 --> 01:20:43.497
our coach is real.
01:20:43.738 --> 01:20:45.439
But that's just not diplomatic.
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:46.621
You just don't do that.
01:20:46.661 --> 01:20:47.863
Yeah, you don't do that.
01:20:47.922 --> 01:20:49.304
You just don't do that.
01:20:49.704 --> 01:20:50.524
And it's like, I said,
01:20:50.564 --> 01:20:52.186
does he have Asperger's or something?
01:20:52.226 --> 01:20:53.748
Like, he just – like,
01:20:53.769 --> 01:20:55.791
he comes out and says stuff like –
01:20:55.791 --> 01:20:57.091
When you go back and look at
01:20:57.152 --> 01:20:58.233
the stuff that he said,
01:20:58.753 --> 01:21:00.956
like about the refs,
01:21:01.015 --> 01:21:03.016
like somebody was eating hot dogs.
01:21:03.037 --> 01:21:05.640
It'd just be crazy, man.
01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:07.360
So, yeah, Shane.
01:21:07.881 --> 01:21:09.462
Shane, we on your ass all year.
01:21:10.042 --> 01:21:11.304
You better not fuck up, boy.
01:21:11.344 --> 01:21:12.345
We on your ass, Shane.
01:21:12.805 --> 01:21:13.105
Tally,
01:21:13.126 --> 01:21:14.606
you make me stay up until 1 o'clock
01:21:15.387 --> 01:21:16.908
today looking at all these videos.
01:21:16.948 --> 01:21:18.270
I'm going to get your ass next time.
01:21:18.289 --> 01:21:18.551
We'll see you.
01:21:19.470 --> 01:21:20.532
Hey, I'll send it to you.
01:21:20.591 --> 01:21:21.332
It's quick.
01:21:21.893 --> 01:21:23.213
Send it to me tomorrow morning.
01:21:23.234 --> 01:21:24.475
I'll watch it at the bus stop.
01:21:24.734 --> 01:21:25.295
Okay.
01:21:25.335 --> 01:21:26.256
We can do that.
01:21:26.315 --> 01:21:28.577
All right, I'm going to flip back.
01:21:28.676 --> 01:21:31.198
I want to talk about a non-Virginia kid,
01:21:31.238 --> 01:21:32.239
but someone with a direct
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:33.300
relation to Virginia.
01:21:33.340 --> 01:21:34.381
Let's talk about Faheem
01:21:34.501 --> 01:21:35.721
Glean up out of Maryland.
01:21:36.682 --> 01:21:37.483
We got to ask it.
01:21:37.542 --> 01:21:37.863
I mean,
01:21:38.023 --> 01:21:39.704
Faheem is a top 20 player in the country.
01:21:39.725 --> 01:21:40.085
He's elite.
01:21:40.465 --> 01:21:40.864
He's elite.
01:21:40.885 --> 01:21:41.826
He's a five-star player.
01:21:43.331 --> 01:21:44.572
Little brother has had a
01:21:44.671 --> 01:21:46.152
tremendous two years at
01:21:46.212 --> 01:21:47.412
Virginia Tech so far.
01:21:47.953 --> 01:21:49.894
Tremendous All-American his freshman year.
01:21:51.335 --> 01:21:52.775
And did not really have the
01:21:52.855 --> 01:21:53.695
sophomore slump.
01:21:54.376 --> 01:21:55.917
He didn't have the massive step.
01:21:56.396 --> 01:21:58.518
He took a solid step to that second year.
01:21:58.537 --> 01:21:58.997
But, you know,
01:21:59.018 --> 01:21:59.719
most of the time we talk
01:21:59.738 --> 01:22:01.340
about sophomore slumps, guys struggling.
01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:03.301
All right,
01:22:03.320 --> 01:22:04.480
I'm going to throw this one out
01:22:04.501 --> 01:22:05.721
there for my fellow.
01:22:05.801 --> 01:22:08.903
So do we have a Lloyd Christmas with him?
01:22:10.024 --> 01:22:11.323
Do we have a chance with him?
01:22:12.364 --> 01:22:12.484
Or –
01:22:13.649 --> 01:22:14.291
You know what?
01:22:14.591 --> 01:22:18.082
Because little brother's got
01:22:18.143 --> 01:22:19.046
one more year left.
01:22:21.055 --> 01:22:23.577
Man, his brother's on campus.
01:22:23.596 --> 01:22:24.658
He's taking trips.
01:22:25.057 --> 01:22:25.599
I know he is.
01:22:25.658 --> 01:22:27.239
I say you got a chance.
01:22:27.260 --> 01:22:28.180
I ain't going to say how big
01:22:28.201 --> 01:22:28.940
of a chance it is,
01:22:28.980 --> 01:22:31.023
but I say you got a chance.
01:22:31.484 --> 01:22:32.203
You know what I'm saying?
01:22:32.224 --> 01:22:35.086
It comes down to production, too.
01:22:35.287 --> 01:22:36.828
I mean, with a lot of the guys, I think,
01:22:36.868 --> 01:22:37.127
like,
01:22:37.708 --> 01:22:40.490
we took a step last year from where
01:22:40.511 --> 01:22:40.850
we were.
01:22:40.911 --> 01:22:42.733
As you've seen, which, Pry,
01:22:42.832 --> 01:22:43.814
sell the shirts, man.
01:22:44.654 --> 01:22:45.434
Sell the shirts.
01:22:45.474 --> 01:22:46.795
We see the shirts with the
01:22:46.895 --> 01:22:47.954
three and the seven on the
01:22:47.994 --> 01:22:50.355
back and then the question mark.
01:22:50.536 --> 01:22:51.556
We want them shirts.
01:22:52.936 --> 01:22:53.938
What is that going to be?
01:22:53.957 --> 01:22:55.979
We had three, then we had seven.
01:22:56.479 --> 01:22:57.838
What is this next year going to be?
01:22:57.918 --> 01:22:59.920
That's going to be a big thing, man.
01:23:01.161 --> 01:23:02.081
What are you hearing me say?
01:23:03.481 --> 01:23:04.582
I think there's,
01:23:05.423 --> 01:23:07.265
not to sound too overly optimistic,
01:23:07.405 --> 01:23:09.948
but there is a very serious chance here.
01:23:09.969 --> 01:23:12.792
Virginia Tech is very much in the running.
01:23:12.931 --> 01:23:13.893
Maryland's another one
01:23:13.912 --> 01:23:15.114
that's very close with him.
01:23:15.715 --> 01:23:18.217
He's obviously, as you mentioned,
01:23:18.257 --> 01:23:19.298
a top 20 guy.
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:20.780
Alabama was all over him.
01:23:20.801 --> 01:23:22.882
I think they were the favorites early on.
01:23:23.462 --> 01:23:24.965
And then Nick Saban left and
01:23:25.125 --> 01:23:26.327
things kind of, you know,
01:23:26.686 --> 01:23:27.488
took a turn there.
01:23:29.109 --> 01:23:30.891
LSU is a big one for him.
01:23:30.912 --> 01:23:32.533
And then again, Ohio State,
01:23:33.295 --> 01:23:34.577
they've been making moves with him.
01:23:35.618 --> 01:23:36.618
So he has, you know,
01:23:36.639 --> 01:23:37.859
there's very legitimate
01:23:37.899 --> 01:23:39.561
competition and all out
01:23:39.622 --> 01:23:40.804
competition for him.
01:23:41.385 --> 01:23:42.966
He's a guy that, you know, it's.
01:23:43.646 --> 01:23:46.088
a little similar in a sense
01:23:46.168 --> 01:23:47.270
to the dax hollyfield
01:23:47.310 --> 01:23:48.931
situation I know he's much
01:23:48.971 --> 01:23:51.033
higher ranked but it's you
01:23:51.094 --> 01:23:52.215
have all these nice things
01:23:52.274 --> 01:23:53.416
in front of you he's gonna
01:23:53.456 --> 01:23:54.617
take all his official
01:23:54.657 --> 01:23:56.099
visits he's gonna hear the
01:23:56.158 --> 01:23:58.020
best pitches from all the best schools
01:23:58.680 --> 01:23:59.520
And I think, you know,
01:24:00.122 --> 01:24:02.002
the playing card for Virginia Tech is,
01:24:02.141 --> 01:24:03.143
you know what you have there.
01:24:03.422 --> 01:24:04.203
You're going to come into a
01:24:04.262 --> 01:24:05.283
favorable position.
01:24:05.623 --> 01:24:06.644
You have familiarity.
01:24:06.663 --> 01:24:08.444
Everything's going to be about you.
01:24:08.805 --> 01:24:10.125
You can step on the field early.
01:24:10.425 --> 01:24:12.286
There's a lot to love from that pitch.
01:24:12.886 --> 01:24:13.365
And, you know,
01:24:13.386 --> 01:24:14.106
that's something that
01:24:14.287 --> 01:24:16.426
obviously resonated with Dax Holyfield.
01:24:18.328 --> 01:24:19.369
Sometimes you come back to
01:24:19.390 --> 01:24:20.851
the school that's been there all along,
01:24:20.971 --> 01:24:21.653
and I know they're going to
01:24:21.673 --> 01:24:22.534
stay consistent.
01:24:23.395 --> 01:24:24.658
So I do think there's a chance,
01:24:24.717 --> 01:24:26.301
but it's going to be a long
01:24:26.341 --> 01:24:28.104
and wild ride to get there.
01:24:29.485 --> 01:24:30.106
So we'll see.
01:24:30.186 --> 01:24:31.569
Like, it would not surprise me if.
01:24:32.868 --> 01:24:34.688
goes to lsu this summer and
01:24:34.828 --> 01:24:35.788
decides you know what I've
01:24:35.809 --> 01:24:37.588
seen everything like I've
01:24:37.609 --> 01:24:38.448
seen those locker rooms
01:24:38.469 --> 01:24:40.569
they're pretty nice so it
01:24:40.609 --> 01:24:42.390
could be anything but I
01:24:42.430 --> 01:24:43.511
really do think virginia
01:24:43.551 --> 01:24:44.990
tech has a very legitimate
01:24:45.011 --> 01:24:46.591
chance I know even with his
01:24:46.631 --> 01:24:48.511
brother like you know there
01:24:48.551 --> 01:24:50.032
was opportunities for him
01:24:50.091 --> 01:24:51.552
to play elsewhere and he
01:24:51.573 --> 01:24:52.573
chose to stay at virginia
01:24:52.613 --> 01:24:54.953
tech so um I think there's
01:24:54.993 --> 01:24:55.953
a lot of love from that
01:24:56.014 --> 01:24:57.394
family for what virginia
01:24:57.413 --> 01:24:58.474
tech can provide and
01:24:58.514 --> 01:25:00.475
especially an nfl pipeline so
01:25:01.555 --> 01:25:03.536
There's a lot to love there for Fahim,
01:25:03.595 --> 01:25:05.456
but it's going to take some
01:25:05.496 --> 01:25:07.296
time to really iron that out.
01:25:07.936 --> 01:25:08.617
So what you're saying is we
01:25:08.657 --> 01:25:09.556
need to fast track those
01:25:09.596 --> 01:25:10.636
locker room renovations.
01:25:10.896 --> 01:25:13.677
Oh, yeah.
01:25:13.738 --> 01:25:16.279
And get Mansoor to the NFL.
01:25:16.658 --> 01:25:18.019
Those two days.
01:25:18.779 --> 01:25:19.279
Hey, Tally,
01:25:19.298 --> 01:25:20.399
we need to go up there in that
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:21.359
flight when he leaves to LSU.
01:25:22.836 --> 01:25:23.556
it ain't going to happen.
01:25:24.096 --> 01:25:24.637
Yeah.
01:25:24.837 --> 01:25:25.219
Let's go.
01:25:25.238 --> 01:25:25.538
Come on.
01:25:25.639 --> 01:25:26.840
I'm going to tell you up in
01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:27.400
Northern Virginia.
01:25:27.440 --> 01:25:27.600
We'll,
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:29.342
we'll run some of the oceans 11 shit.
01:25:29.382 --> 01:25:30.524
Like he ain't making it to LSU.
01:25:30.623 --> 01:25:32.166
Unless you want to drive.
01:25:32.265 --> 01:25:33.167
I'll be the pilot.
01:25:33.447 --> 01:25:34.228
There we go, baby.
01:25:34.347 --> 01:25:34.828
Let's do it.
01:25:35.349 --> 01:25:36.069
What you got Brian?
01:25:36.510 --> 01:25:36.770
Yeah.
01:25:36.789 --> 01:25:37.650
I mean, let's,
01:25:37.811 --> 01:25:38.731
since we're talking about for him,
01:25:38.752 --> 01:25:39.493
let's go ahead and talk
01:25:39.512 --> 01:25:40.194
about some of these
01:25:40.895 --> 01:25:42.515
footprint States that aren't Virginia.
01:25:42.536 --> 01:25:42.676
Yeah.
01:25:43.166 --> 01:25:43.365
You know,
01:25:43.386 --> 01:25:44.787
we got some officials on the
01:25:44.827 --> 01:25:49.329
board out of Maryland from Fahim, Malik,
01:25:49.369 --> 01:25:50.411
a couple other guys.
01:25:50.430 --> 01:25:53.972
A lot of guys out of North Carolina,
01:25:54.453 --> 01:25:58.456
like Shamarius, Peterkin, Tayshaun Alston,
01:25:59.117 --> 01:26:00.698
Tennessee with Sam Haley,
01:26:00.738 --> 01:26:01.578
Carson Lawrence.
01:26:02.492 --> 01:26:03.573
Last couple cycles,
01:26:03.653 --> 01:26:04.573
prize kind of hit those
01:26:04.594 --> 01:26:05.916
surrounding states pretty hard.
01:26:06.737 --> 01:26:08.377
And we've seen a lot of the
01:26:08.438 --> 01:26:09.418
states kind of thrown out
01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:10.541
there with a lot of the offers.
01:26:10.621 --> 01:26:11.702
Maryland and North Carolina
01:26:11.742 --> 01:26:12.762
really heavy this cycle
01:26:12.823 --> 01:26:14.064
with number of offers.
01:26:14.664 --> 01:26:15.605
What state do you think will
01:26:15.626 --> 01:26:17.287
bear the most fruit come signing day?
01:26:18.171 --> 01:26:18.390
Yeah,
01:26:18.411 --> 01:26:19.671
I definitely think it's going to be
01:26:19.832 --> 01:26:22.354
either North Carolina or Maryland.
01:26:23.036 --> 01:26:25.278
A ton of guys there for now
01:26:25.358 --> 01:26:26.759
that have set up official visits.
01:26:26.798 --> 01:26:27.579
I think there'll be even
01:26:27.619 --> 01:26:29.341
more as they continue to
01:26:29.360 --> 01:26:30.483
evaluate talent there.
01:26:31.143 --> 01:26:32.984
This first crop and a lot of
01:26:33.005 --> 01:26:34.025
the guys that we're seeing
01:26:34.206 --> 01:26:34.987
taking these official
01:26:35.027 --> 01:26:36.108
visits are really the guys
01:26:36.127 --> 01:26:37.048
that are narrowing in
01:26:37.609 --> 01:26:38.569
on their recruitment,
01:26:38.850 --> 01:26:40.310
guys that are cutting down their list,
01:26:40.671 --> 01:26:41.792
trying to get to campuses
01:26:41.851 --> 01:26:42.893
this spring and this summer,
01:26:43.252 --> 01:26:43.774
and trying to make
01:26:43.814 --> 01:26:45.375
decisions before their senior year.
01:26:45.675 --> 01:26:46.315
There's going to be even
01:26:46.376 --> 01:26:47.837
more guys that go
01:26:47.877 --> 01:26:49.217
throughout the fall that
01:26:49.238 --> 01:26:50.639
Virginia Tech's going to
01:26:50.658 --> 01:26:52.761
want to get later on in the cycle.
01:26:53.382 --> 01:26:53.523
Um,
01:26:53.743 --> 01:26:55.505
ton of talent in North Carolina right
01:26:55.545 --> 01:26:55.784
now.
01:26:56.484 --> 01:26:57.506
Um, you know,
01:26:57.645 --> 01:26:58.787
you mentioned some of the names,
01:26:59.207 --> 01:27:01.047
Peter can is, is a huge one.
01:27:01.588 --> 01:27:03.989
Uh, he's teammates with Jadon Blair.
01:27:04.010 --> 01:27:04.890
Uh, they're,
01:27:05.070 --> 01:27:06.492
they both set up official visits,
01:27:06.572 --> 01:27:07.773
both four star guys.
01:27:08.412 --> 01:27:09.274
Um, you know,
01:27:09.634 --> 01:27:11.635
both really involved with UNC.
01:27:12.155 --> 01:27:12.235
Uh,
01:27:12.296 --> 01:27:14.677
but I think Virginia tech has a good
01:27:14.717 --> 01:27:15.257
shot there.
01:27:15.278 --> 01:27:17.498
I think Blair also has a lot
01:27:17.519 --> 01:27:18.739
of interest from Notre Dame.
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:18.800
Um,
01:27:20.873 --> 01:27:23.398
And then you look at Malik Washington,
01:27:23.819 --> 01:27:24.819
very intriguing guy.
01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:26.021
I think he was just elevated
01:27:26.061 --> 01:27:27.423
to a four-star prospect.
01:27:28.365 --> 01:27:28.826
Our guys at 24-7 just –
01:27:30.855 --> 01:27:33.016
Really love him, his blend of athleticism.
01:27:33.077 --> 01:27:35.637
He's really an amazing quarterback.
01:27:36.177 --> 01:27:37.118
It's kind of interesting
01:27:37.137 --> 01:27:38.217
with the situation right now.
01:27:38.259 --> 01:27:39.698
I know that Kelden Ryan is
01:27:40.219 --> 01:27:41.059
verbally committed,
01:27:41.779 --> 01:27:43.020
but Virginia Tech is open
01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:44.280
to taking two quarterbacks.
01:27:44.400 --> 01:27:45.161
And, you know,
01:27:45.201 --> 01:27:46.201
they would love to get a guy
01:27:46.240 --> 01:27:47.322
like Malik Washington.
01:27:47.362 --> 01:27:50.403
He's 6'4", 210, you know,
01:27:50.622 --> 01:27:52.542
really fast runner, really good arm,
01:27:52.563 --> 01:27:55.104
a bit unorthodox,
01:27:55.984 --> 01:27:59.045
but just an absolute gamer and a guy that,
01:27:59.386 --> 01:27:59.645
you know,
01:28:00.746 --> 01:28:01.807
they want to fit that mold
01:28:01.887 --> 01:28:03.470
of Kyron drones too.
01:28:03.930 --> 01:28:06.413
So I, I think he's a guy that, you know,
01:28:06.854 --> 01:28:08.077
they're really going to push for, um,
01:28:09.198 --> 01:28:10.159
try to get that second
01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:11.761
quarterback commit in the class.
01:28:12.523 --> 01:28:14.024
Um, you know, for him is there,
01:28:14.064 --> 01:28:15.386
I think he can start a movement, um,
01:28:16.127 --> 01:28:17.408
um with some of these other
01:28:17.448 --> 01:28:19.309
guys skyler harvey's a very
01:28:19.349 --> 01:28:21.109
interesting guy I think at
01:28:21.149 --> 01:28:23.109
the time of writing up a
01:28:23.189 --> 01:28:25.350
post visit recap uh he only
01:28:25.390 --> 01:28:26.711
had one power five offer
01:28:26.751 --> 01:28:27.631
and that was from virginia
01:28:27.671 --> 01:28:29.351
tech and at the end of the
01:28:29.391 --> 01:28:30.532
interview I did with him he
01:28:30.572 --> 01:28:31.972
just sent me his entire
01:28:32.052 --> 01:28:34.113
offer list like legit was
01:28:34.153 --> 01:28:35.134
just you know sending
01:28:35.173 --> 01:28:37.734
photos um and I was like
01:28:37.795 --> 01:28:39.175
where did all this come from like
01:28:39.734 --> 01:28:40.755
We heard you had one power
01:28:40.774 --> 01:28:41.655
five offer and all of a
01:28:41.676 --> 01:28:42.456
sudden you have 10.
01:28:42.456 --> 01:28:44.015
So he's a guy that really
01:28:44.076 --> 01:28:46.716
got a lot of interest and, you know,
01:28:46.896 --> 01:28:49.818
absolute huge human being at six, seven,
01:28:49.858 --> 01:28:51.137
I think over 300 pounds.
01:28:51.198 --> 01:28:53.519
So a lot of guys to like in
01:28:53.559 --> 01:28:54.979
Maryland and North Carolina.
01:28:54.998 --> 01:28:55.920
I think one of those two
01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:57.920
states will definitely take
01:28:57.960 --> 01:28:59.900
the cake for most outside of Virginia.
01:29:02.161 --> 01:29:03.402
That's a lot of good stuff right there.
01:29:03.442 --> 01:29:04.421
We like to hear all of that.
01:29:06.208 --> 01:29:07.010
I guess we'll switch a
01:29:07.050 --> 01:29:10.292
little bit in the last cycle.
01:29:12.095 --> 01:29:14.398
JC beat the allegations, man.
01:29:15.639 --> 01:29:16.939
JC beat the allegations.
01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:18.742
Everybody said JC couldn't recruit.
01:29:19.563 --> 01:29:20.703
JC proved him wrong.
01:29:21.707 --> 01:29:22.926
He's out here doing his thing,
01:29:22.987 --> 01:29:25.167
just living his life like it's golden.
01:29:25.847 --> 01:29:26.127
You know,
01:29:26.168 --> 01:29:27.488
he's bringing in some good talent.
01:29:28.109 --> 01:29:29.069
JC's a cool guy.
01:29:29.109 --> 01:29:31.789
Fontel is who he is.
01:29:32.270 --> 01:29:32.511
You know,
01:29:32.551 --> 01:29:33.890
they both led the charge as far
01:29:33.930 --> 01:29:35.572
as recruiting goes.
01:29:36.612 --> 01:29:38.792
So besides those guys, I'll ask you,
01:29:39.132 --> 01:29:40.372
do you see another position
01:29:40.412 --> 01:29:41.514
coach that could probably
01:29:41.533 --> 01:29:44.295
get in that top 20 ACC
01:29:44.335 --> 01:29:45.114
recruiter this year?
01:29:45.984 --> 01:29:46.545
Absolutely.
01:29:46.604 --> 01:29:47.506
I think if there's going to
01:29:47.525 --> 01:29:48.386
be a guy on the staff,
01:29:48.445 --> 01:29:49.266
it's going to be cheetah.
01:29:49.787 --> 01:29:51.127
Like there's so much
01:29:51.207 --> 01:29:52.809
defensive back talent this year.
01:29:52.828 --> 01:29:55.029
I think that's the position group.
01:29:55.050 --> 01:29:55.810
They're really going to try
01:29:55.829 --> 01:29:56.490
to hammer home.
01:29:56.871 --> 01:29:58.131
We talked about a lot of
01:29:58.212 --> 01:30:00.432
four star five star safeties,
01:30:00.972 --> 01:30:02.594
a bunch of high three stars.
01:30:03.014 --> 01:30:04.614
We talked about deuce for him.
01:30:04.935 --> 01:30:06.256
You already got knowledge in the boat.
01:30:07.095 --> 01:30:08.618
There's a lot of talent there.
01:30:08.837 --> 01:30:10.639
And I think he's a guy that, you know,
01:30:10.698 --> 01:30:11.939
he only took one DB last
01:30:11.979 --> 01:30:13.581
cycle in terms of cornerbacks.
01:30:14.061 --> 01:30:15.563
I know that they brought in some safeties,
01:30:15.682 --> 01:30:17.184
but I think they're really
01:30:17.203 --> 01:30:18.465
going to hammer that home this year.
01:30:19.085 --> 01:30:21.567
And there's a ton of talent there.
01:30:21.587 --> 01:30:24.149
I think if all goes according to plan,
01:30:24.208 --> 01:30:26.390
like he'll be top 15 for sure.
01:30:26.411 --> 01:30:27.631
Nice.
01:30:28.453 --> 01:30:28.872
We need it.
01:30:29.533 --> 01:30:29.974
We need it.
01:30:29.993 --> 01:30:30.793
And I think you see
01:30:30.814 --> 01:30:32.034
Cheetah's personality and
01:30:32.074 --> 01:30:33.195
you think defensive backs
01:30:33.235 --> 01:30:34.997
and that personality is, I feel like,
01:30:35.768 --> 01:30:36.608
A lot of them will probably
01:30:36.628 --> 01:30:38.328
click right away with them.
01:30:38.609 --> 01:30:40.350
I want to ask you this because, you know,
01:30:40.371 --> 01:30:42.212
you talk to high school recruits,
01:30:42.231 --> 01:30:43.891
you talk to coaches, you talk to people.
01:30:44.653 --> 01:30:46.673
But what comes up about this
01:30:46.753 --> 01:30:48.095
staff when you're talking
01:30:48.135 --> 01:30:49.154
to a player we're
01:30:49.175 --> 01:30:50.015
recruiting or maybe one
01:30:50.036 --> 01:30:50.855
we've already landed?
01:30:51.296 --> 01:30:52.577
What's like the words that come out?
01:30:52.596 --> 01:30:54.018
What's that constant like
01:30:54.137 --> 01:30:55.179
every player I talk to?
01:30:56.019 --> 01:30:56.920
This is what I hear,
01:30:57.501 --> 01:30:58.202
because I think that's
01:30:58.242 --> 01:30:59.863
something we all are interested in,
01:30:59.922 --> 01:31:01.784
because, you know, we've interviewed.
01:31:01.985 --> 01:31:03.567
We've had the pleasure in the last year.
01:31:03.627 --> 01:31:04.769
We've interviewed Coach Pryor.
01:31:05.088 --> 01:31:06.369
We've interviewed Coach Mines.
01:31:07.011 --> 01:31:07.712
We've interviewed Coach
01:31:07.771 --> 01:31:09.894
Price and we interviewed Coach Mullen.
01:31:11.256 --> 01:31:12.756
When you talk to someone,
01:31:13.257 --> 01:31:14.418
what is it about this staff
01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:15.119
that they say it's like
01:31:15.260 --> 01:31:16.320
every time I hear this?
01:31:17.256 --> 01:31:18.657
yeah I think the buzzword
01:31:18.697 --> 01:31:19.877
that every recruit that
01:31:20.177 --> 01:31:21.399
I've ever interviewed has
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:23.820
said is family I know it's
01:31:23.841 --> 01:31:25.521
a little cliche but when
01:31:25.542 --> 01:31:26.762
you think of virginia tech
01:31:26.783 --> 01:31:28.283
like the coaches like
01:31:28.444 --> 01:31:30.086
genuinely enjoy recruiting
01:31:30.466 --> 01:31:31.787
they genuinely enjoy
01:31:31.966 --> 01:31:32.527
creating these
01:31:32.587 --> 01:31:33.807
relationships not just with
01:31:33.828 --> 01:31:34.609
the recruits with the
01:31:34.668 --> 01:31:35.909
families with the coaches
01:31:36.289 --> 01:31:37.650
trainers people in the
01:31:37.690 --> 01:31:38.931
community I know they talk
01:31:38.971 --> 01:31:40.793
about it all the time they do back it up
01:31:41.533 --> 01:31:42.755
And when you look at some of
01:31:42.795 --> 01:31:43.574
these other schools,
01:31:43.614 --> 01:31:46.096
you got your Ohio State's, your Alabama's,
01:31:46.176 --> 01:31:48.217
Penn State's like no shade on them.
01:31:48.438 --> 01:31:51.559
Like there are 100 interns that are,
01:31:51.979 --> 01:31:54.180
you know, texting recruits.
01:31:54.461 --> 01:31:55.761
And sometimes you're not
01:31:56.061 --> 01:31:57.442
talking to your position coach.
01:31:57.521 --> 01:31:57.743
Right.
01:31:58.283 --> 01:32:00.863
And I think like with Virginia Tech,
01:32:00.904 --> 01:32:03.746
you're getting, you know, a full court.
01:32:04.985 --> 01:32:07.167
treatment from everyone from
01:32:07.207 --> 01:32:08.668
the ground floor all the way up.
01:32:08.988 --> 01:32:11.070
Like Brent Prye is not just saying,
01:32:11.190 --> 01:32:12.532
you know, go out there and recruit.
01:32:12.572 --> 01:32:14.213
Like he's putting an effort too.
01:32:14.654 --> 01:32:15.414
And I think that's,
01:32:15.854 --> 01:32:18.037
that effort goes a long way
01:32:18.077 --> 01:32:18.877
with these recruits.
01:32:19.677 --> 01:32:21.078
And I think, you know,
01:32:21.158 --> 01:32:22.359
that family atmosphere,
01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:23.761
they know it's a fun time.
01:32:23.801 --> 01:32:25.082
They know they're going to be developed.
01:32:25.643 --> 01:32:27.003
They know like success will
01:32:27.043 --> 01:32:28.305
come on the field or at
01:32:28.345 --> 01:32:29.086
least they hope so.
01:32:29.105 --> 01:32:29.145
Um,
01:32:30.447 --> 01:32:31.067
But overall,
01:32:31.127 --> 01:32:32.969
I think it's just that atmosphere that,
01:32:33.009 --> 01:32:33.168
like,
01:32:33.208 --> 01:32:35.350
the coaches genuinely care and they
01:32:35.369 --> 01:32:36.131
want to recruit.
01:32:36.171 --> 01:32:37.190
It's not that they have to.
01:32:38.572 --> 01:32:40.092
Yeah, I can see that because, you know,
01:32:40.132 --> 01:32:41.234
when you go back and look at, like,
01:32:42.654 --> 01:32:45.115
the draft day thing they had as far as,
01:32:46.136 --> 01:32:47.717
what was it, like, signing day?
01:32:49.158 --> 01:32:50.680
When Pryor's talking, man,
01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:52.701
you can tell he's dug into the families.
01:32:53.261 --> 01:32:55.462
He knows all kinds of stories about moms,
01:32:55.823 --> 01:32:57.104
brothers, fathers.
01:32:57.184 --> 01:32:59.645
So, I mean, that's not –
01:33:01.180 --> 01:33:02.101
Everybody doesn't do that.
01:33:02.122 --> 01:33:02.682
You know what I'm saying?
01:33:02.703 --> 01:33:03.844
I ain't gonna say that's the blueprint.
01:33:03.863 --> 01:33:05.225
Cause you got some coaches
01:33:05.265 --> 01:33:06.646
that bigger programs that just,
01:33:06.707 --> 01:33:07.667
that's not what they do.
01:33:08.047 --> 01:33:09.710
You know, they may be an X's and O's guy.
01:33:09.729 --> 01:33:12.313
They may have a person that handles that,
01:33:12.712 --> 01:33:14.255
you know, but prize taking that.
01:33:14.314 --> 01:33:14.895
And like you said,
01:33:14.935 --> 01:33:16.516
I can see where they've
01:33:16.556 --> 01:33:19.439
taken the family mantra and they, they,
01:33:19.621 --> 01:33:20.400
they really live it.
01:33:20.461 --> 01:33:21.682
So that's, that's pretty cool.
01:33:23.506 --> 01:33:24.627
Well, the other thing, Tally,
01:33:24.648 --> 01:33:25.988
you mentioned about that is
01:33:26.609 --> 01:33:27.810
the bigger programs,
01:33:28.369 --> 01:33:29.891
I don't think that resonates with them.
01:33:30.231 --> 01:33:33.234
I think because we're Ohio State.
01:33:33.514 --> 01:33:34.555
You want to go to the league?
01:33:34.795 --> 01:33:35.775
You want a million dollars?
01:33:36.216 --> 01:33:36.836
Right.
01:33:37.436 --> 01:33:38.237
That's all they've got.
01:33:38.618 --> 01:33:38.837
Now,
01:33:38.997 --> 01:33:41.118
what you see a lot of times is people
01:33:41.179 --> 01:33:42.220
go there and they come out
01:33:42.260 --> 01:33:43.820
with the stories of, man,
01:33:43.841 --> 01:33:45.021
they were assholes.
01:33:45.341 --> 01:33:45.523
Yeah.
01:33:46.783 --> 01:33:47.743
And that's okay.
01:33:48.324 --> 01:33:48.885
That's okay.
01:33:49.104 --> 01:33:49.645
It's football.
01:33:50.185 --> 01:33:51.106
People have to be jerks.
01:33:51.127 --> 01:33:51.907
You got to be assholes
01:33:51.947 --> 01:33:52.528
because you're trying to
01:33:52.547 --> 01:33:53.448
get the best out of them.
01:33:53.969 --> 01:33:55.149
But the whole thing you hear
01:33:55.210 --> 01:33:58.773
so many times is they were two-faced.
01:33:59.353 --> 01:34:01.395
They got me in that door and
01:34:01.435 --> 01:34:03.015
immediately they were different people.
01:34:03.555 --> 01:34:05.578
And it feels like, to me...
01:34:06.701 --> 01:34:08.962
And again, having Kevin drones, shout out,
01:34:09.002 --> 01:34:09.242
Kevin.
01:34:09.261 --> 01:34:10.162
I know Kevin was listening,
01:34:10.181 --> 01:34:11.962
is listening tonight and
01:34:12.002 --> 01:34:13.623
having other people talking with his,
01:34:13.644 --> 01:34:14.944
you know, these guys aren't like,
01:34:15.425 --> 01:34:16.585
they're going to be straight up with you.
01:34:16.604 --> 01:34:17.064
Right.
01:34:17.085 --> 01:34:17.826
They're going to be straight
01:34:17.865 --> 01:34:19.185
up with you from day one.
01:34:19.846 --> 01:34:21.167
And I'm sure there's some of
01:34:21.186 --> 01:34:22.228
the tougher conversations
01:34:22.247 --> 01:34:23.167
that they have with these
01:34:23.247 --> 01:34:24.969
kids that they continue having,
01:34:25.029 --> 01:34:27.329
where it's, you know, you're Alabama,
01:34:27.989 --> 01:34:28.550
you're Georgia.
01:34:28.590 --> 01:34:28.869
You don't,
01:34:28.909 --> 01:34:29.631
you don't have to have those
01:34:29.671 --> 01:34:32.152
hard conversations because you know what?
01:34:33.032 --> 01:34:33.832
You don't want us.
01:34:34.353 --> 01:34:34.733
You're okay.
01:34:34.773 --> 01:34:35.092
Okay.
01:34:36.127 --> 01:34:36.846
That kid right there,
01:34:36.867 --> 01:34:37.887
he wants us just as bad.
01:34:37.908 --> 01:34:38.868
Right.
01:34:39.929 --> 01:34:41.250
I think, too, again,
01:34:41.529 --> 01:34:42.470
no shade to some of the
01:34:42.530 --> 01:34:43.572
other schools I mentioned.
01:34:44.091 --> 01:34:45.493
They do have proven recruiters.
01:34:45.533 --> 01:34:47.394
They do have good connections with kids.
01:34:47.833 --> 01:34:48.975
I think the difference is
01:34:49.414 --> 01:34:51.076
where Virginia Tech has been,
01:34:51.516 --> 01:34:52.317
there's more of that
01:34:52.457 --> 01:34:54.137
urgency in the recruiting process.
01:34:54.478 --> 01:34:55.618
You kind of mentioned it.
01:34:56.198 --> 01:34:57.680
These other schools, they have brands.
01:34:57.859 --> 01:34:58.761
They've been at the top.
01:34:58.780 --> 01:34:59.320
Right.
01:35:00.421 --> 01:35:01.243
Year in, year out,
01:35:01.283 --> 01:35:02.363
they're bringing in guys no
01:35:02.404 --> 01:35:03.786
matter what they say, what they do.
01:35:04.286 --> 01:35:05.747
But for Virginia Tech,
01:35:05.768 --> 01:35:06.948
they want to do it the right way.
01:35:07.189 --> 01:35:08.770
They want to build those relationships.
01:35:09.150 --> 01:35:10.372
And I think it's important, too,
01:35:10.393 --> 01:35:11.573
because they're realizing
01:35:12.054 --> 01:35:13.555
if you're having these fake
01:35:13.595 --> 01:35:14.697
relationships and you're
01:35:14.716 --> 01:35:16.238
bringing guys in and saying
01:35:16.259 --> 01:35:16.918
the right things...
01:35:17.539 --> 01:35:18.279
They're just going to enter
01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:19.301
the transfer portal and
01:35:19.341 --> 01:35:20.560
leave like they truly want
01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:21.220
to build it up.
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:23.042
So I think they're they're
01:35:23.082 --> 01:35:24.942
investing that time now so
01:35:24.962 --> 01:35:26.323
that these guys are staying.
01:35:26.622 --> 01:35:27.783
They're helping the rebuild,
01:35:27.842 --> 01:35:29.323
helping get Virginia Tech
01:35:29.363 --> 01:35:30.283
back to where it needs to be.
01:35:30.304 --> 01:35:30.384
Yeah,
01:35:31.224 --> 01:35:32.385
when you talk about the transfer
01:35:32.425 --> 01:35:34.305
portal to like building
01:35:34.345 --> 01:35:35.145
those relationships,
01:35:35.246 --> 01:35:36.326
even if it doesn't come to
01:35:36.365 --> 01:35:38.087
fruition the first go
01:35:38.106 --> 01:35:39.386
around with the transfer portal.
01:35:40.622 --> 01:35:42.144
so many opportunities to get
01:35:42.184 --> 01:35:43.264
a second shot at a kid.
01:35:43.884 --> 01:35:45.085
And if you were building
01:35:45.104 --> 01:35:46.324
that relationship to begin with,
01:35:46.345 --> 01:35:47.246
when you look at a kid like
01:35:47.265 --> 01:35:47.886
Kelvin Gilliam,
01:35:48.725 --> 01:35:50.367
that's an opportunity that
01:35:51.087 --> 01:35:52.587
you stick with it, you keep going,
01:35:52.627 --> 01:35:53.887
and then it comes back
01:35:53.927 --> 01:35:54.748
around for you and you're
01:35:54.769 --> 01:35:56.408
able to maximize that.
01:35:56.908 --> 01:35:58.670
So that's really important.
01:35:58.689 --> 01:35:59.610
And I think the staff has
01:35:59.631 --> 01:36:00.610
done a good job about that.
01:36:00.610 --> 01:36:03.354
100% APR to, you know, I was going to say,
01:36:03.413 --> 01:36:05.356
I was going to say it comes down to,
01:36:05.837 --> 01:36:06.559
you know what I'm saying?
01:36:06.599 --> 01:36:09.882
You, you, it starts with a deal,
01:36:09.903 --> 01:36:10.583
you know what I'm saying?
01:36:10.604 --> 01:36:11.305
Like you're selling your
01:36:11.324 --> 01:36:12.286
business plan and you go
01:36:12.305 --> 01:36:13.988
and try to get a loan from the bank.
01:36:14.009 --> 01:36:15.189
You got to make it look good.
01:36:15.210 --> 01:36:16.351
So the bank gives you the loan.
01:36:16.731 --> 01:36:17.193
Well, now I.
01:36:18.194 --> 01:36:19.555
put that in football perspective,
01:36:19.854 --> 01:36:20.875
probably came out and said, hey,
01:36:20.895 --> 01:36:21.836
this is what we want to do.
01:36:22.176 --> 01:36:23.277
This is how we're going to do it.
01:36:23.577 --> 01:36:25.238
Then you go get a kid like APR,
01:36:25.358 --> 01:36:26.778
and he comes in and he produces.
01:36:27.118 --> 01:36:27.819
You know what I'm saying?
01:36:27.838 --> 01:36:30.380
You say, hey, I need you to come.
01:36:30.460 --> 01:36:31.301
You can come in.
01:36:31.440 --> 01:36:33.601
We've seen what you did at Florida.
01:36:34.724 --> 01:36:36.425
He comes in Virginia Tech and he's a star.
01:36:37.065 --> 01:36:37.645
You know what I'm saying?
01:36:37.685 --> 01:36:40.469
And not only is he a star on the field,
01:36:40.849 --> 01:36:43.871
he's a legend in Virginia Tech fan eyes.
01:36:44.212 --> 01:36:44.992
You know what I'm saying?
01:36:45.051 --> 01:36:47.595
So you can use that story
01:36:47.654 --> 01:36:49.916
now to sell that to the
01:36:49.975 --> 01:36:52.238
next recruit in the transfer.
01:36:52.257 --> 01:36:54.800
Look at Kyra Jones.
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:57.802
He was a Texas kid that was at Baylor.
01:36:57.863 --> 01:36:59.423
We've heard his story and then boom,
01:36:59.463 --> 01:37:01.086
we pull him to Virginia
01:37:01.126 --> 01:37:02.447
Tech to Blacksburg and
01:37:03.046 --> 01:37:04.367
the kid is already being
01:37:04.426 --> 01:37:05.408
mentioned with you know I
01:37:05.427 --> 01:37:06.188
don't want to put too much
01:37:06.988 --> 01:37:08.188
uh expectations on his back
01:37:08.228 --> 01:37:08.908
but he's already been
01:37:08.948 --> 01:37:09.948
mentioned with the likes of
01:37:10.109 --> 01:37:11.988
tyrod and you know uh
01:37:12.088 --> 01:37:13.809
gerard evans and you know
01:37:13.849 --> 01:37:17.909
hidden hook or so I can't
01:37:17.949 --> 01:37:18.770
remember the twitter
01:37:18.789 --> 01:37:19.570
account but there was one
01:37:19.631 --> 01:37:21.331
out there that was uh you
01:37:21.350 --> 01:37:23.171
know dropping the stats for
01:37:23.230 --> 01:37:25.231
jt daniels and kyron drones
01:37:25.851 --> 01:37:27.072
and they were very eerily
01:37:27.171 --> 01:37:28.752
similar in a lot of those
01:37:28.792 --> 01:37:30.052
key factors it's true
01:37:30.739 --> 01:37:32.162
And so it's kind of crazy
01:37:32.202 --> 01:37:34.125
seeing that vision play out
01:37:34.404 --> 01:37:35.426
that the coaches presented
01:37:35.445 --> 01:37:37.108
because the coaches sold a
01:37:38.170 --> 01:37:39.891
vision when there wasn't
01:37:39.931 --> 01:37:41.094
production to back it up.
01:37:42.085 --> 01:37:42.985
and we finally got some
01:37:43.025 --> 01:37:44.146
production to back it up.
01:37:44.766 --> 01:37:46.148
Now it's about taking that next step.
01:37:46.748 --> 01:37:48.210
But it's also – we've said
01:37:48.270 --> 01:37:48.970
it how many times,
01:37:49.029 --> 01:37:49.770
and I think we've said it
01:37:49.831 --> 01:37:51.591
with – I know you've been on here, Matei.
01:37:52.172 --> 01:37:54.054
The APR, he came in, he produced.
01:37:54.335 --> 01:37:55.375
They went and got all those
01:37:55.435 --> 01:37:56.315
receivers last year.
01:37:56.336 --> 01:37:57.476
You saw Ollie Jennings that
01:37:57.497 --> 01:37:58.117
first game blow up,
01:37:58.158 --> 01:37:58.957
and then he gets hurt.
01:37:59.779 --> 01:38:02.381
Jay Lane, Quan Felton, great years.
01:38:03.180 --> 01:38:04.601
Every guy that stepped foot
01:38:04.643 --> 01:38:06.323
on the field out of the portal produced.
01:38:06.703 --> 01:38:09.488
But that whole piece is now.
01:38:09.788 --> 01:38:10.489
All right.
01:38:10.829 --> 01:38:14.015
A lot of these guys are
01:38:14.055 --> 01:38:14.916
going to be leaving.
01:38:15.596 --> 01:38:16.719
That portal is going to
01:38:16.738 --> 01:38:17.640
become easier because
01:38:17.659 --> 01:38:18.461
they're going to walk in.
01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:19.462
You see our system.
01:38:19.962 --> 01:38:20.823
You see production.
01:38:21.985 --> 01:38:23.167
Why aren't you going to come play here?
01:38:24.130 --> 01:38:26.492
And it's going to get to a point,
01:38:26.652 --> 01:38:27.493
in my opinion,
01:38:28.134 --> 01:38:29.295
that there's going to be big,
01:38:29.375 --> 01:38:31.076
big names at big,
01:38:31.136 --> 01:38:32.698
big schools that they're
01:38:32.738 --> 01:38:33.298
going to go flunk,
01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:33.918
they're going to mess with,
01:38:33.939 --> 01:38:34.640
and they're going to say,
01:38:35.260 --> 01:38:35.860
you're going to ride the
01:38:35.900 --> 01:38:37.101
bench another year over there.
01:38:37.643 --> 01:38:38.743
You come here, look.
01:38:39.524 --> 01:38:40.185
Look what we've done.
01:38:40.985 --> 01:38:42.226
Look what we've done.
01:38:42.247 --> 01:38:43.908
All right, Sheldon,
01:38:43.927 --> 01:38:45.009
I know you've got one more
01:38:45.069 --> 01:38:46.010
you want to talk with here
01:38:46.069 --> 01:38:48.072
as we wrap it up with Matej Sis tonight.
01:38:48.231 --> 01:38:48.792
Go ahead, sir.
01:38:49.792 --> 01:38:52.234
Yeah, so this year, 2024,
01:38:52.234 --> 01:38:54.795
good recruiting class for
01:38:54.854 --> 01:38:56.216
Prye from a numbers perspective.
01:38:56.636 --> 01:38:59.898
Class average was over 88, which I think,
01:39:00.097 --> 01:39:01.378
looking at the numbers right now,
01:39:01.838 --> 01:39:03.539
was the best in sort of the modern era.
01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:05.319
And I know it's easy in
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:06.381
today's day and age, I feel like,
01:39:06.440 --> 01:39:07.902
to maybe downplay high
01:39:07.921 --> 01:39:09.341
school recruiting in the
01:39:09.402 --> 01:39:10.443
age of the transfer portal.
01:39:10.863 --> 01:39:12.043
But Prye has talked all the
01:39:12.064 --> 01:39:13.024
time about how he wants to
01:39:13.064 --> 01:39:13.984
build this program off the
01:39:14.024 --> 01:39:14.784
backs of high school
01:39:14.824 --> 01:39:16.126
recruiting and sort of use
01:39:16.145 --> 01:39:17.805
the portal to supplement here and there.
01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:21.881
What is the buzz amongst
01:39:21.900 --> 01:39:23.541
your colleagues at 24-7 and
01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:24.402
just the other inside
01:39:24.421 --> 01:39:26.841
voices about recruiting for
01:39:26.881 --> 01:39:27.722
this class and just how
01:39:27.743 --> 01:39:28.783
much anticipation there is?
01:39:29.563 --> 01:39:30.262
Yeah, I mean,
01:39:30.483 --> 01:39:31.923
I certainly thought that last
01:39:31.963 --> 01:39:33.243
year was kind of the
01:39:33.283 --> 01:39:36.185
anomaly where they're taking 16 guys,
01:39:36.225 --> 01:39:39.025
taking a handful of transfer portal ads.
01:39:40.025 --> 01:39:42.167
Spaces were limited, not a ton of seniors,
01:39:42.226 --> 01:39:43.327
not a ton of attrition.
01:39:43.346 --> 01:39:44.908
I think natural attrition
01:39:44.988 --> 01:39:46.988
was right in line with kind
01:39:47.007 --> 01:39:47.868
of what we expected.
01:39:49.368 --> 01:39:52.550
But I think going into 2025,
01:39:52.550 --> 01:39:53.789
we're actually going to see
01:39:53.949 --> 01:39:54.951
somewhat similar.
01:39:55.190 --> 01:39:58.391
I think the day and age of
01:39:58.511 --> 01:40:00.492
getting 25 kids from high
01:40:00.532 --> 01:40:01.931
school are just completely done.
01:40:03.153 --> 01:40:04.432
Most programs across the
01:40:04.472 --> 01:40:06.293
country are not going to take massive,
01:40:06.354 --> 01:40:07.333
massive classes.
01:40:07.934 --> 01:40:09.054
I think we'll see something
01:40:09.113 --> 01:40:12.335
like 18 to 21 range with this class,
01:40:12.435 --> 01:40:14.475
depending on available talent,
01:40:14.876 --> 01:40:16.176
guys that they really like,
01:40:16.376 --> 01:40:17.837
positions that they want to fill up.
01:40:18.636 --> 01:40:20.037
But other than that, I think, you know,
01:40:20.398 --> 01:40:21.878
keep that flexibility to
01:40:22.060 --> 01:40:23.720
add some guys from the
01:40:23.761 --> 01:40:25.082
transfer portal is huge.
01:40:25.721 --> 01:40:27.462
We've seen the success rate so far.
01:40:27.563 --> 01:40:30.164
So definitely think it's
01:40:30.204 --> 01:40:31.985
going to be in the same range.
01:40:32.046 --> 01:40:33.948
And look like you look at last year,
01:40:33.967 --> 01:40:35.649
they have what the 47th
01:40:35.729 --> 01:40:37.550
overall class and people are like,
01:40:37.590 --> 01:40:38.711
you know, you're talking about the.
01:40:39.131 --> 01:40:41.694
But when you have a class of that size,
01:40:41.734 --> 01:40:43.354
if they were to continue on,
01:40:43.414 --> 01:40:45.337
if they are taking more talent, you know,
01:40:45.537 --> 01:40:48.479
assuming they're 86 and up or 87 and up,
01:40:48.539 --> 01:40:48.800
you know,
01:40:48.979 --> 01:40:50.442
then you start creeping into the top 30.
01:40:50.442 --> 01:40:50.742
So I think.
01:40:54.265 --> 01:40:55.565
If you have a class with
01:40:55.626 --> 01:40:56.926
higher average recruit
01:40:56.966 --> 01:40:59.509
talent that's smaller, you know,
01:40:59.548 --> 01:41:01.451
that if you were to add eight more guys,
01:41:01.470 --> 01:41:02.492
you'd be in the top 25.
01:41:02.492 --> 01:41:03.953
I think that's the position
01:41:03.993 --> 01:41:04.632
you want to be in.
01:41:04.993 --> 01:41:06.015
It's not about having an
01:41:06.095 --> 01:41:07.336
overwhelming amount of numbers.
01:41:07.395 --> 01:41:10.478
It's about having quality, you know,
01:41:10.738 --> 01:41:12.899
late teens and then add
01:41:12.939 --> 01:41:14.020
some transfer portal guys.
01:41:15.501 --> 01:41:16.563
So but say you think kind of
01:41:16.662 --> 01:41:18.265
aiming for that 88 average
01:41:18.525 --> 01:41:19.426
every year is going to kind
01:41:19.447 --> 01:41:20.849
of be that goal going forward,
01:41:20.889 --> 01:41:22.492
trying to keep that average high,
01:41:23.412 --> 01:41:24.494
regardless of whether where
01:41:24.534 --> 01:41:27.259
we're falling on the the total numbers,
01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:28.341
since that does kind of
01:41:28.381 --> 01:41:29.542
factor in more than number
01:41:29.582 --> 01:41:30.163
of the recruits.
01:41:30.546 --> 01:41:31.367
Yeah, absolutely.
01:41:31.407 --> 01:41:31.707
I mean,
01:41:31.867 --> 01:41:33.287
for as long as I've been doing this,
01:41:33.368 --> 01:41:34.989
then the goal was always
01:41:35.069 --> 01:41:37.091
about a top 25 class,
01:41:37.391 --> 01:41:39.292
a top 30 class like that.
01:41:39.493 --> 01:41:40.795
That is what was being said.
01:41:41.414 --> 01:41:42.595
And I think, you know,
01:41:42.615 --> 01:41:43.617
that's kind of shifted.
01:41:43.676 --> 01:41:46.338
It's not as important to have those top,
01:41:46.378 --> 01:41:46.559
top,
01:41:46.599 --> 01:41:48.801
top classes unless you're bringing in
01:41:48.801 --> 01:41:49.742
20 plus guys.
01:41:50.242 --> 01:41:51.122
So I think, you know,
01:41:51.162 --> 01:41:52.444
it's really important now
01:41:52.885 --> 01:41:54.926
to fill out your your spots
01:41:54.985 --> 01:41:56.847
with the top guys on your board and
01:41:57.207 --> 01:41:58.729
guys that you really value
01:41:58.788 --> 01:42:00.630
highly um and I think
01:42:00.670 --> 01:42:01.730
that's kind of the approach
01:42:01.751 --> 01:42:02.631
that they're gonna go with
01:42:03.252 --> 01:42:04.453
and of course like you'd
01:42:04.493 --> 01:42:05.833
love to have a top 25 class
01:42:05.873 --> 01:42:07.494
like who wouldn't but um
01:42:07.994 --> 01:42:09.015
yeah at the end of the day
01:42:09.055 --> 01:42:10.337
it's a numbers game you
01:42:10.356 --> 01:42:11.117
want to make sure that you
01:42:11.136 --> 01:42:12.997
have enough room to to if
01:42:13.158 --> 01:42:14.118
whatever happens that
01:42:14.158 --> 01:42:15.819
season you need to plug and
01:42:15.859 --> 01:42:17.400
play some guy like you you
01:42:17.440 --> 01:42:18.322
need to have room for that
01:42:19.153 --> 01:42:19.974
And I guess we're still kind
01:42:20.014 --> 01:42:21.654
of seeing some of the after
01:42:21.694 --> 01:42:22.815
effects of the COVID year
01:42:22.836 --> 01:42:26.057
for a lot of these high schools recruits.
01:42:26.097 --> 01:42:28.378
So that's probably maybe
01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:29.579
this is the last cycle,
01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:30.761
and it kind of starts to go
01:42:30.780 --> 01:42:32.561
away a little bit heading into 2026.
01:42:32.561 --> 01:42:34.462
But it seems like this is
01:42:34.483 --> 01:42:35.344
going to be the last year
01:42:35.363 --> 01:42:36.864
that's majorly affected by that.
01:42:37.305 --> 01:42:37.604
Yeah.
01:42:37.645 --> 01:42:37.926
I mean,
01:42:38.025 --> 01:42:39.327
wasn't there – there's like an
01:42:39.546 --> 01:42:41.228
Oregon – former Oregon
01:42:41.688 --> 01:42:42.488
tight end that's like
01:42:42.529 --> 01:42:44.350
playing his eighth year or something.
01:42:44.369 --> 01:42:45.130
Is it ninth year?
01:42:45.210 --> 01:42:45.591
It's eighth?
01:42:46.070 --> 01:42:47.752
It's eighth.
01:42:47.771 --> 01:42:48.493
The kid should –
01:42:50.037 --> 01:42:51.358
I hope it's the last year of that.
01:42:51.438 --> 01:42:51.978
Cause like it's,
01:42:52.097 --> 01:42:53.099
it's hard to keep track of.
01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:55.400
Well, I mean, I always get it.
01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:57.742
Like, you know, if people get hurt, yeah.
01:42:57.782 --> 01:42:59.323
You want to give them that chance.
01:42:59.542 --> 01:42:59.802
Right.
01:43:00.043 --> 01:43:03.466
But it's like, once you hit year six,
01:43:05.506 --> 01:43:05.886
get out,
01:43:05.907 --> 01:43:07.627
you just taken up a college chip spot.
01:43:08.368 --> 01:43:09.550
Like go get on with your life.
01:43:10.569 --> 01:43:11.291
Unless you're trying to get
01:43:11.331 --> 01:43:12.131
a doctorate and you don't
01:43:12.150 --> 01:43:12.792
want to pay for it.
01:43:14.092 --> 01:43:14.432
Fair enough.
01:43:15.213 --> 01:43:15.493
I mean,
01:43:15.755 --> 01:43:17.716
I'm trying to get a doctorate in
01:43:18.055 --> 01:43:19.618
something crazy and get out
01:43:19.637 --> 01:43:20.318
of here and make some money,
01:43:20.337 --> 01:43:21.298
and I don't want to have any debt.
01:43:21.738 --> 01:43:22.399
So I get that.
01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:23.980
Brian, Sheldon, Tally,
01:43:24.001 --> 01:43:25.282
y'all got anything else for
01:43:25.301 --> 01:43:26.182
Matej says tonight?
01:43:27.463 --> 01:43:28.045
No, man.
01:43:28.085 --> 01:43:30.145
It's been a wonderful time, as always.
01:43:30.386 --> 01:43:32.108
Matej, appreciate you coming on as always,
01:43:32.148 --> 01:43:32.287
man.
01:43:32.328 --> 01:43:33.548
It's always a blast when you're here.
01:43:33.908 --> 01:43:36.230
Love talking recruiting, obviously,
01:43:36.411 --> 01:43:38.172
but you're not just a recruiting guy.
01:43:38.412 --> 01:43:39.274
You have an all-around
01:43:39.354 --> 01:43:41.175
knowledge of Virginia Tech
01:43:41.215 --> 01:43:41.996
and the sport in general,
01:43:42.015 --> 01:43:43.037
so we really appreciate that.
01:43:43.442 --> 01:43:44.681
Yeah, I appreciate you guys.
01:43:45.221 --> 01:43:46.523
I think I'm getting up there
01:43:46.582 --> 01:43:48.563
with most recurring maybe, hopefully.
01:43:49.563 --> 01:43:50.363
You are fighting Mike
01:43:50.382 --> 01:43:51.604
McDaniel right now for it.
01:43:51.623 --> 01:43:52.583
So if you want to sneak one
01:43:52.703 --> 01:43:54.503
on just to come shoot the
01:43:54.524 --> 01:43:55.344
shit with us one night,
01:43:55.543 --> 01:43:56.323
you can pass Mike.
01:43:56.645 --> 01:43:56.984
Oh, yeah.
01:43:57.024 --> 01:43:57.965
I'll just come on for five
01:43:58.005 --> 01:43:59.204
minutes just to pass Mike.
01:43:59.244 --> 01:44:00.685
Just say you can pass Mike.
01:44:01.104 --> 01:44:02.466
But, man, I'm going to tell you,
01:44:02.485 --> 01:44:04.506
the thing is we have you on.
01:44:05.025 --> 01:44:05.466
Obviously,
01:44:05.506 --> 01:44:06.605
we'll look to summer to have you
01:44:06.685 --> 01:44:07.827
on again once we get in
01:44:07.886 --> 01:44:09.487
that hotbed of recruiting.
01:44:10.106 --> 01:44:10.947
in July,
01:44:11.347 --> 01:44:12.728
but it's every time you've come on here,
01:44:12.768 --> 01:44:15.109
you're, you educate us on so many things.
01:44:15.168 --> 01:44:15.328
I mean,
01:44:15.349 --> 01:44:16.748
there's so many names now that
01:44:16.788 --> 01:44:17.788
we're thinking about and
01:44:18.109 --> 01:44:19.109
the direction of this class
01:44:19.170 --> 01:44:19.750
is going to go.
01:44:20.149 --> 01:44:21.511
But the other thing I'll say is this,
01:44:22.371 --> 01:44:23.451
you're a Virginia tech alum.
01:44:24.070 --> 01:44:25.091
You love this program.
01:44:25.652 --> 01:44:26.391
Like you love it.
01:44:26.452 --> 01:44:27.431
We know that we know from
01:44:27.471 --> 01:44:28.512
having conversation with you,
01:44:28.573 --> 01:44:29.313
absolutely love this
01:44:29.353 --> 01:44:31.554
program and it shows in your work.
01:44:31.613 --> 01:44:33.274
It shows in the passion and dedication.
01:44:33.333 --> 01:44:33.694
And man,
01:44:34.395 --> 01:44:36.135
we really appreciate you sort of
01:44:36.175 --> 01:44:37.555
being our guy at 247 for the last,
01:44:38.975 --> 01:44:39.475
Three years?
01:44:40.596 --> 01:44:41.257
Three years, yeah.
01:44:41.377 --> 01:44:41.958
Three years?
01:44:42.418 --> 01:44:42.618
Yeah.
01:44:42.738 --> 01:44:44.100
It don't seem like three years,
01:44:44.140 --> 01:44:44.921
but it's three years.
01:44:46.381 --> 01:44:47.023
It really is.
01:44:47.222 --> 01:44:48.064
Time flies, man.
01:44:48.083 --> 01:44:49.725
But we appreciate you always coming on.
01:44:50.386 --> 01:44:51.806
And tonight with Mattesis,
01:44:52.106 --> 01:44:53.628
that wraps up this episode
01:44:53.649 --> 01:44:54.609
of the Boundary Corner
01:44:54.649 --> 01:44:55.850
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check him out on 247 right now.
01:45:08.390 --> 01:45:09.192
Are y'all running any
01:45:09.311 --> 01:45:10.912
specials that you know of?
01:45:11.474 --> 01:45:12.274
Not that I know of.
01:45:12.394 --> 01:45:13.694
Evan will probably kill me for that,
01:45:13.755 --> 01:45:15.417
but I do not know right now.
01:45:15.497 --> 01:45:16.356
So I'll check it out.
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Matej is a Writer for 247Sports.com's VTScoop. He joined the staff as a Sophomore while attending Virginia Tech and has worked there ever since. He primarily focuses on VT Football, but has coverage on VT Basketball as well. He also helps with recruiting coverage.