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Next Steps
In this episode we're joined by Hokie legend, Vicktory Life founder, and friend of the show Dwight Vick. We talk to Dwight about the progress Coach Pry and Co have made to this point and what it will take for this group to take the Next Steps now that they have some momentum.
Transcript
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And welcome back to The
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Boundary Corner Podcast,
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along with my partners,
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Brian Seigla and Jonathan Talley,
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and the family member himself,
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Dwight Vick, tonight.
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I'm Curtis Wilson,
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and this episode is brought
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to you by Dr. Jeremy Counts
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down at Main Street
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Pharmacy in Blacksburg,
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your friendly neighborhood pharmacy,
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301 South Main Street, Blacksburg,
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Virginia.
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Appearance number seven,
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but number one in our hearts,
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57 on the line.
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Dwight, how you doing tonight, man?
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The original.
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Yeah, man.
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Hey, I appreciate it, man.
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Listen, it's an honor to be back on, man.
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I got a radio show I do, a segment.
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I've done a lot of stuff, man.
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I've been very blessed.
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Hokie Nation continues to
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show me love when I come back for games.
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It's crazy, man, because linemen need love,
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too, and y'all show me a lot of love,
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man.
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I told you guys this.
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I keep telling you sometimes
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when I get on and listen or watch y'all,
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y'all got one of the top VT
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podcasts in the game, man.
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And that's real.
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I mean,
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the guests you guys have been having,
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the topics, it's lovely, bro.
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But thank you.
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I'm great.
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I'm blessed.
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Awesome.
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Awesome.
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The guest, we just said,
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you said the guest we'd be having too,
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you the guest.
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You the honorary number one guest.
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Yes.
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So, hey, man,
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we appreciate you coming in here.
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We know you got a lot of
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things you could be doing
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or you do have to do,
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but you choose to spend a
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little bit of time with us.
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We'll jump right in it when
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we're talking about things to do.
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We know you got kids.
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We've been keeping up with you.
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Your son playing basketball.
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Your daughter's out there ODU, right?
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Man, my oldest daughter, yeah.
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Oldest daughter out there, ODU.
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Can I ask you a quick question?
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Go ahead.
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How'd she feel after September?
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How did daddy lay it on her?
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Oh,
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she was salty because she was talking a
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lot at the first year, her freshman year.
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Even on my dirty suburban,
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she wrote in the back of the window, ODU,
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whatever, some little thing,
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just trolling, bruh.
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I said, you grew up a Hokie fan.
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You even went to the Tech-UVA game at UVA.
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and we're trolling UVA fans
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at the UVA bar.
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You know, you're a Vic,
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but she's also a mama.
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So, yeah, she was trolling,
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but it felt good because I
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don't really talk trash,
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but if anyone knows me, once I talk,
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I let you have it.
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I am also a.k.a.
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Petty Vic.
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I keep receipts.
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I got that Virgo memory,
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so I remember a lot of stuff.
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And, you know, funny thing,
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I mentioned my birthday being a Virgo.
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We played ODU on the 14th.
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We can't lose that game.
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That's my birthday.
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Oh, man.
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Can't lose that game.
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We cannot lose that one, man.
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I don't care who's birthday it's on.
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We can't lose that.
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That would be a horrible start.
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We're going to get to that.
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We're going to need to talk about that.
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We want to stay on the kids
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and the family for just a minute.
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Isaiah, state runner-up, right?
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Yeah, two years in a row, state runner-up.
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State runner-up.
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Who did they get beat by?
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It's funny, Tally.
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They played Southlake,
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the team they beat early in the season.
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Who has Jordan Scott?
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Jordan Scott plays at the South Lakes.
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For those that know Virginia
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high school basketball, South Lakes,
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rich in tradition, was built in 77.
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Patriot's only 12 years old as a school.
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And Isaiah finished his school,
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his record at Patriot, 89 and 13,
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and had a great year.
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Just was named all-state, second team,
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all-region, first team, all-digit.
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Had a great junior year,
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but just a great career.
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They played South lakes
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early in the season.
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And Isaiah was a key factor with 17,
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seven and seven,
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seven boys and seven assists,
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but had a monster dunk that
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was trending online, but South lakes,
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they would do.
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We missed shots that we would,
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we normally make with our eyes closed.
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Isaiah who shoot shot this past year,
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80% from the field.
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He missed seven or eight free throws.
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He was only one or two or
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something from the field.
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It just,
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His teammate and longtime
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friend and brother, Tay Barber,
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who's going to Harvard to
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play there in the fall,
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he only scored 11.
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He was our leading scorer.
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He was 4-13, and Desmond, the point guard,
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was 0-8 from the field.
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He did have nine points,
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but it all came at the free throw line.
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It's just one of those games, man, because
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You know,
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sometimes you got to tip your hat
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and say they made the shots,
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they made the plays,
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and just was a tough loss.
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But, you know, I look at his career.
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He's just scratching the
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surface as a player.
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You know,
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he's getting a lot of interest and calls.
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It's so different now with the portal.
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Yeah.
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He's got a couple of small offers,
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but he's been contacted by
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Boston College.
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Radford has reached out.
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Wagner, who just won,
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Wagner reached out about
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him three weeks ago.
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I know a lot of people are
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texting and wondering online.
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Right now,
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the deal is we're going to
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possibly prep because he's only 17.
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He turns 18 in May.
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He's still growing.
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If we do prep, we'll go for a junior,
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but he's going to play with New World,
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the AAU organization,
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one of the best AAU teams
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in the DMV up here in the D.C.
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area,
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which has a lot of college connections.
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You know, again,
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he's going down to ODU to
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visit his older sister.
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He's going to work out with Jason Wade,
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just finished his senior
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year at ODU as a basketball player.
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So God has a plan.
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We've got a lot of interest
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with his skill set inside
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to handle the ball.
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He can play defense.
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He can guard one through five.
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It's coachable.
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He can score.
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I mean, he's got things to work on.
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But right after the loss, just I said this,
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we can move on.
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Right after the loss, you know,
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it's emotional.
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You watch your son's career end,
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even though it's a remarkable career.
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And if you have kids,
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everyone's going to go through this.
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Because when they are hurt
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and they're sick,
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you're hurt and you're sick.
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You know,
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seeing him break down during the
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runner-up trophy
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presentation and watching
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Southlake cheer and celebrate,
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you can't hide from that disappointment.
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But it was tough to watch.
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But then when I think about it,
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I know God has a plan.
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It's just different because
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you have to be patient.
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You have to work hard.
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And he came home, rested for a day.
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And that weekend, that Sunday and Monday,
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he was in the gym working out.
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And went in the garage,
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was just working out.
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And respect the Southlakes.
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They got a kid named Jordan Scott.
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He's got a tech offer.
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Virginia Tech has got about
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22 Power 5 offers.
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His mom played at Michigan State.
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She's a Southlakes alumni.
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And then his dad
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played at Miami.
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So he's basketball royalty.
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You guys,
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if you follow high school basketball,
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you hear more about him.
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Again,
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Tech was there to see him when Patriot,
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my son's team, beat him.
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I thought maybe they might
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scratch and knock at Isaiah's door,
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but it's okay.
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We're going to see what happens,
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and I'm happy my son had a great career.
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I mean, you know, he chose, it's weird,
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he started off with football, but me,
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Mike, and Marcus,
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and all of us stayed with football.
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He chose basketball to put
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the right thing on, man.
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Heck yeah, man.
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Heck yeah, we love to hear it, man.
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We love to hear it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean,
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I saw you earlier kind of
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piggybacking off this with
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the basketball.
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You had some thoughts on the VHSL.
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Oh, gosh.
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And some of those rules, man.
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I saw it out there.
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I figured I had to throw it
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out there to you.
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So, hey, B,
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I've been holding back because
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I'm very aware –
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Because if I would have been
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tweeting and talking,
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my son is a sophomore, junior,
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and senior.
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If you saw Remember the Titans, man,
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Virginia has progressed.
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We're a blue state now,
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but some people still get petty.
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Remember the Titans?
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They were trying to blackball Denzel,
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trying to cheat him.
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So I didn't want to say anything.
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But now that my son's graduating in May,
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I'm not holding back.
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The VHSL, even with the voting,
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how they did for Allstate this year,
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the fact that I grew up in Virginia,
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I'm a proud Virginian.
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I played football and basketball.
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for two Hall of Fame coaches,
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Coach Brower in basketball,
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Coach Mike Smith.
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The truth of the matter is,
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it's just different.
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And I'm not one of those guys,
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as y'all all know,
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that my day was so much better, and AAA,
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AA, and single A was so much better.
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We are a huge state.
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South Virginia's grown.
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Northern Virginia's booming.
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I live up here.
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It's overcrowded.
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The 757 is growing.
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Richmond is growing.
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You gotta have classifications.
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But in Virginia,
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we have six on basketball
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and football and all the other sports.
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And
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Each region does things differently,
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even for the playoffs.
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I'll share this with you and
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your viewers and listeners.
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Classic example.
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My son's team played Oscar
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Smith in the state semis at
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Hilton High School in Woodbridge,
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a neutral site,
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but Patriot was the higher seed,
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so it was up here.
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I go to watch OP girls play Thomas Dale,
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Thomas Dale girls, before my son plays.
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Back in the day, a doubleheader
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or triple header was held,
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you bought your ticket,
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you were there the whole day, night,
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or whatever.
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The VHSL.
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Oh, I see what they were doing.
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They made us.
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You had to buy two tickets for both games.
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If you were there for the OP
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Osborne Park Thomas Dale game,
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the announcer, who was a friend of mine,
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made an announcement.
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Security, police, and everybody, ADs,
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made everyone clear the gym,
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go back outside after the game was over,
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wait in the cold and rain,
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and then reenter with your
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electronic ticket,
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and you had to go back in.
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It was insane.
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And I'm just like, what?
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Why?
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It's just dumb.
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It's dumb.
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And, you know,
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football is at an all-time bad.
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It's all at an all-time low.
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I mean, you got three and seven teams,
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including my alma mater,
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one of the best programs in VHSL history,
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Hampton High,
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two years ago made the
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playoffs at three and seven.
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I played in the year, well, my senior year,
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we finished 8-2,
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and we needed a team to lose,
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and we had to beat Bethel
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because Iverson was locked up,
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so we ended up winning 23-7.
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But we had to win that game,
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and I think we needed
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Norview to lose in Norfolk, and we got in,
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and we lost to Norcom,
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who won states that year out of Portland.
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But that's how hard it was.
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I don't know, man.
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I'm not going to stop now
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that my son's out because I
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didn't want any shaming that's going on.
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But I'm going to speak.
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And I'm not even one of
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those guys that stirs a pot.
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I'm very conscious of what I tweet,
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what I say.
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But I'm not going to lose
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sight of the fact that
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what's wrong is wrong or
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what's right is right.
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What you see now in this
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world with the NCAA, the VHSL,
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even if you want to get political,
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Even the educational system,
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there are a lot of people
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making decisions that don't
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understand how it affects
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the people you're making decisions for.
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From the college football
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playoffs to conference realignment to NIL,
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the portal,
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there are a lot of decisions being made.
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And, like,
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y'all need to get the right
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people in the room, man.
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That's all I'm going to say, man.
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It's just crazy.
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All right.
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I'm going to jump in because
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I had this to talk later on,
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but you brought it up.
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Let's talk about it.
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Let's talk about NIL, man.
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Because if you look across
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the boards at sites,
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you hear people's insights
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in talking about the Hokies.
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I mean,
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it's considered a top 25 NIL product.
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It sure is.
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I mean, top 25 NIL product.
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You don't seem surprised by that.
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So why?
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Why are we already there?
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Go ahead.
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Brendan Hill, who's now coaching,
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he's kind of backed off with Twitter,
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but I would chime in with
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him because I would try to
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tell people on Twitter spaces.
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I'm not calling people liars.
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I'm not that guy, but I know,
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and have always known
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Virginia tech collectors
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have money as a matter of fact, uh,
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April 4th or 5th,
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I'm meeting up with some
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boosters in Alexandria city
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of Alexandria for some
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cocktails and drinks and dinner.
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I think my cousin Mike's going to be there,
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some other former players
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and some other donors.
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I'm like, damn, bro.
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We got people that got money.
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Like we think about tech,
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you think about Bruce Smith,
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Mike and Holden on the Today Show.
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Nah, bro.
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We got donors that own
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construction companies that
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know people like Tony Soprano.
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We got money to burn, man.
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Like people just be talking like, oh,
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you know, we don't have it.
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You know, yes.
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That article that came out
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right before the season started.
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shed some light in how we
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weren't or we were misusing
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stuff or the whole thing
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with john belen and all of
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that but I still know and
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I've always known curtis
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we've had a group of people
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that really care about tech
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and that donate money I've
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been around them I've hung
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out with them I've been
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even um last spring game I
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was up in the suite with
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kevin jones and all those
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guys and aaron rouse and
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there was a lot of money up
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there a lot of important people
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you wouldn't even know it
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man people think money you
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see in the drip and the
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jewels a lot of times it's
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like nah they got they got
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on some khakis from tj maxx
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and the polo it's not what
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you think and they're real
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chill but in all
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seriousness man we have a
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great in our nil uh triumph
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is doing a great job and
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there are a lot of people
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who really want to see
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virginia tech succeed in
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all sports and they're
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donating their time and
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money I'm seeing it good to hear
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yeah and I mean we it's been
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a whole lot from a national
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perspective in terms of nil
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and in terms of some of
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these other things that
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we're that we're talking
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about I mean you got you
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know you got one team
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that's like uh unionizing
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players you know there
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might be you know there's
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talk of like in the future
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trying to get collective
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bargaining on the table
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like what are your thoughts
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on nil and how it's trying
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to you know move forward
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with these do uh these new type of rules
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I'm learning more about it every day,
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every week, every month.
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I mean,
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I don't I've never thought that it
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was a bad thing.
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I've always just wanted some parameters.
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I just saw an article this
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morning about and what's her name?
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Reese, Angela Reese, Angel Reese,
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Angel Reese.
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Talk about how discouraged
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she was and surprised how
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she had to pay taxes on her NIL money.
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And when I told people,
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am I going to go to jail
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for tax evasion in the
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middle of a tournament?
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I wrote an article, as you all know,
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I used to write for 247 sports.
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And before that,
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I used to write for rivals
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at Hokie Haven.
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One of my favorite articles
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I wrote wasn't even my best one,
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but it was one of my
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favorites because I can relate to it,
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was the fact that I've
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always felt life skills was
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essential in helping people
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understand the student
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athletes and students in
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general on how to manage money,
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and what it meant to have
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the understanding of being
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adult and being self-sufficient.
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And that's my only concern
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because we've seen the 34 thirties,
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the sports illustrated
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articles about how 78% of
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NFL and 79% of NBA players
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go broke after being done.
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And,
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I just think that it's still an issue.
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And I mean,
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it's just because you don't
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think the money is going to run out.
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I remember when we used to
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get our bowl per damn, bro.
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We used to get our bowl per
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damn for the sugar bowl and
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the orange bowl.
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And that was back in the late 90s.
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I know these guys are
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getting way more than what we got.
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I remember getting my money
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and I went to five straight bowls.
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So my redshirt year, you know,
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it was nothing.
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But like my sophomore, junior, senior year,
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I was like, you get the gear,
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but you could opt out and say,
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you know what, keep that gear,
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give me the money.
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And I remember getting like,
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seven hundred dollars or
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eight hundred for one bowl
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game and I just remember
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going back home to the 757
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even when we got back to
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roanoke blacksburg going to
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new river valley mall and
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just buying up just going
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crazy you know and you
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realize that ain't no money
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but you know we nope I i
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was just happy but then my
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last couple years I
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remember like saving a
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little bit getting my mom
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and my girlfriend who's not
00:18:04.273 --> 00:18:05.335
my wife's gifts and
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You know,
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spending money and managing money
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is a skill.
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It's not it needs to become
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habitual when it comes to saving.
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And, you know,
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old girl Reese is one of
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many people that's going to
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get caught up.
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But I think it's a good thing.
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But I think if you don't
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have leadership or some
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type of systematic approach involved,
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it can get messy.
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And I think, you know,
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I know a lot of people have
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been on statement about his
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comments when he went in
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front of Congress about it.
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I don't know Nick Saban.
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He never recruited me.
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I've never had a conversation with him.
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I know my cousin knows him,
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but at the end of the day,
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I have to respect what he's saying.
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But at the same time,
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we're all part of the bunch
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that made this the mess that it is.
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We all helped create it.
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I mean, I posted, you know, B,
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you follow me on Instagram,
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my personal stuff,
00:18:49.492 --> 00:18:50.493
and you follow me on like,
00:18:50.854 --> 00:18:51.834
so you know how funny I
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like to be with movies and clips.
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You know,
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I even posted on Twitter about my
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man from blue trips who went in there and
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The white dude that was, you know,
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wanted a tractor for his dad.
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Oh, yeah.
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He was the first guy that came in,
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tried to secure the bag.
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And he told the coach, he was like,
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I'm a white player, American, you know,
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bread or whatever.
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I'm paraphrasing.
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I'd like to get $30,000 cash.
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And he was just talking
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about what he needed after
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the recruiting visit.
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And I was like, damn,
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that was in the early 90s.
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So that stuff has been going on.
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And look, I wrote for Rivals in 247.
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So I interviewed a lot of
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prospects over the last year,
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talked to them.
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I've been around.
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I was just talking to Tim Settle yesterday,
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Tim Settle Jr.
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yesterday,
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congratulating him on his deal
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with the Texans.
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So I've been around this
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even before my son was playing ball,
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and I know what goes on.
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So this is nothing new.
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So in a lot of ways,
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don't get mad when kids are
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getting even more greedy
00:19:47.449 --> 00:19:49.588
when the NCAA has been greedy,
00:19:49.829 --> 00:19:51.390
college coaches have been greedy.
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We've all been greedy.
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We've all been greedy.
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You know,
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the NFL added one additional game.
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So, you know, it is what it is, man.
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Now you created a monster where kids,
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you know,
00:20:01.186 --> 00:20:02.647
know their worth and they want money.
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And it's not about coming
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from a situation from the
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south or from up north
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where you don't have much.
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It doesn't matter if you
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grow up in a suburban environment.
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These kids want to get paid.
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I come from a different time
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when you just won the
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scholarship and you wanted
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a chance to get a degree
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and go to the NFL.
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These kids want – I mean,
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look at Baker with UNC.
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I feel like he's been there seven years.
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you know so he wants to get
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paid and he's probably
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living very well you know I
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mean I tell you it's wild
00:20:33.340 --> 00:20:34.221
we talk about the system
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all the time and you know
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I've been on record as you
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know I'm very pro NIL I'm
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very pro player across the
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board I do think that
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having some guardrails up
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there is necessary but when
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we think about the history
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of college football I mean
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and just looking at the
00:20:48.128 --> 00:20:49.529
last you know 20 to 30 years I mean
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The money made off the backs
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of players is incredible.
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And when you think about the
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ramification of the bag dropping game,
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the player is the one that
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gets screwed the most if
00:21:02.361 --> 00:21:03.301
that shit comes to light.
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Speaking of facts, B, look,
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at the end of the day, man,
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my best example is my
00:21:11.348 --> 00:21:12.670
cousin because I was there.
00:21:12.690 --> 00:21:14.310
I recruited him in tech.
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His mom was driving a school bus.
00:21:16.790 --> 00:21:19.412
He lived in Easton, Newport News,
00:21:19.471 --> 00:21:21.112
where my grandmother stayed, my nana,
00:21:21.132 --> 00:21:21.913
my dad grew up.
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Easton, Newport News,
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then and now is no damn joke.
00:21:26.374 --> 00:21:27.855
He didn't even have a suit
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for the Heisman.
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I've talked about this on
00:21:30.236 --> 00:21:31.935
your show previously and other platforms.
00:21:32.616 --> 00:21:33.797
And the truth of the matter is,
00:21:33.836 --> 00:21:39.058
is that he made tech a lot of money.
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I mean, think about this.
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He is still, in 2024, an icon.
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Their kids, nine years old, I meet.
00:21:46.942 --> 00:21:48.124
They're like, Michael Vick.
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And I'm like, oh, you nine years old, bro.
00:21:52.488 --> 00:21:53.249
I'm just telling you.
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And think about like because
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Tech was already doing very good.
00:21:56.592 --> 00:21:57.894
I was part of the build.
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I was there when it started.
00:22:00.036 --> 00:22:01.617
But Mike just put us in a
00:22:01.678 --> 00:22:02.878
zone where after that
00:22:02.919 --> 00:22:04.099
national championship game,
00:22:04.681 --> 00:22:05.662
everybody was recruiting
00:22:05.701 --> 00:22:06.722
quarterbacks like him.
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he gave birth not
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figuratively but you know
00:22:09.768 --> 00:22:11.328
in the sense of marketing
00:22:11.348 --> 00:22:12.769
to lamar jackson and
00:22:12.848 --> 00:22:15.509
russell and list goes on
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and on my homes and then
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you look at what he did for
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virginia tech I mean when I
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got to tech in 94 man we
00:22:21.112 --> 00:22:23.053
had like three hotels bro I
00:22:23.093 --> 00:22:24.473
mean it's crazy now with
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all the little overpass and
00:22:25.713 --> 00:22:26.614
underpass and all these
00:22:26.634 --> 00:22:27.835
different exits and roads
00:22:28.515 --> 00:22:30.796
so nil is crazy man but
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You know,
00:22:32.121 --> 00:22:33.701
I think about how Mike was living
00:22:33.721 --> 00:22:34.961
in an apartment like a
00:22:35.001 --> 00:22:35.781
regular college student.
00:22:35.801 --> 00:22:38.083
He didn't have a bunch of money,
00:22:38.202 --> 00:22:39.202
and people thought he was
00:22:39.222 --> 00:22:40.144
getting paid like that.
00:22:40.344 --> 00:22:40.804
He wasn't.
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Not under Beamer's watch.
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And one last point before we
00:22:43.984 --> 00:22:44.984
move to the next question.
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I've always said this.
00:22:46.566 --> 00:22:48.726
I've talked about this on other platforms.
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Virginia Tech, even now,
00:22:51.666 --> 00:22:52.728
with the booming of
00:22:52.788 --> 00:22:53.788
Southwest Virginia and the
00:22:53.847 --> 00:22:54.728
growth of the campus,
00:22:55.648 --> 00:22:58.349
unlike Georgia Tech and Miami,
00:22:58.470 --> 00:22:59.490
which is in South Beach,
00:23:00.338 --> 00:23:01.479
And this is going to sound crazy,
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:02.118
but hear me out.
00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:04.440
It's tough to cheat or do
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:05.941
what Miami and other schools did,
00:23:05.980 --> 00:23:08.161
because if you have a
00:23:08.280 --> 00:23:09.421
Hummer or you got
00:23:09.602 --> 00:23:11.122
prostitution or helicopters
00:23:11.162 --> 00:23:12.301
picking your girlfriend up,
00:23:13.102 --> 00:23:14.663
everybody in Blacksburg and
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Radford and Floyd and everywhere.
00:23:17.403 --> 00:23:19.864
It is in college town.
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So.
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Even when I was there back in the day,
00:23:25.686 --> 00:23:26.027
you know,
00:23:26.186 --> 00:23:27.926
or even when I go back and it's
00:23:27.967 --> 00:23:28.807
grown so much,
00:23:29.248 --> 00:23:30.647
but it's still a Southwest.
00:23:31.167 --> 00:23:32.489
You can't do all that stuff
00:23:32.509 --> 00:23:34.709
you did at other schools
00:23:34.769 --> 00:23:36.910
because Atlanta is always jumping.
00:23:36.950 --> 00:23:38.451
You got Georgia Tech, you got Georgia.
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It's a lot to do.
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People go there, you know,
00:23:41.511 --> 00:23:42.511
to do other stuff,
00:23:42.672 --> 00:23:44.051
to get wings at the club
00:23:44.112 --> 00:23:45.532
where Gilbert Arenas and them hang out.
00:23:45.553 --> 00:23:47.692
You got concerts and all that.
00:23:48.153 --> 00:23:49.334
We had concerts at Tech
00:23:49.354 --> 00:23:50.653
where they came to Radford
00:23:50.794 --> 00:23:52.954
or Virginia Tech or most likely Roanoke.
00:23:53.529 --> 00:23:54.790
So it's tough to get stuff
00:23:54.810 --> 00:23:55.892
jumped off there because
00:23:56.011 --> 00:23:56.832
everybody's going to know
00:23:56.872 --> 00:23:57.752
what you're driving.
00:23:58.653 --> 00:23:59.273
And you ain't going to hear
00:23:59.294 --> 00:24:01.214
about no kingpin setting up
00:24:01.234 --> 00:24:02.256
shop in Blackburg.
00:24:02.415 --> 00:24:03.195
It just ain't happening.
00:24:06.238 --> 00:24:07.439
Tell me what you got on this, man.
00:24:08.118 --> 00:24:09.480
You had to jump off for a second there.
00:24:09.940 --> 00:24:10.701
Yeah.
00:24:11.060 --> 00:24:13.162
Well, I got a lot,
00:24:13.202 --> 00:24:13.782
but I ain't going to go
00:24:13.843 --> 00:24:14.943
into all of what I got.
00:24:15.003 --> 00:24:16.984
But I did want to say this from earlier.
00:24:18.153 --> 00:24:20.155
Virginia high school basketball,
00:24:20.435 --> 00:24:21.836
Alabama high school basketball,
00:24:22.218 --> 00:24:23.479
high school basketball in general,
00:24:23.838 --> 00:24:26.362
get a fucking shot clock, please.
00:24:27.843 --> 00:24:29.023
That's what I need y'all to do.
00:24:29.625 --> 00:24:30.766
Get a fucking shot clock.
00:24:30.806 --> 00:24:31.886
I'm tired of seeing people
00:24:31.906 --> 00:24:34.608
get a 6-2 lead and hold a
00:24:34.648 --> 00:24:35.789
ball at the top of the key
00:24:36.109 --> 00:24:37.010
for a whole quarter.
00:24:37.432 --> 00:24:38.673
That shit needs to stop.
00:24:40.094 --> 00:24:42.036
Now back to your regular schedule program.
00:24:42.056 --> 00:24:43.116
We're talking about NIF.
00:24:43.672 --> 00:24:45.992
Hey, Tally, look, real quick, what's crazy,
00:24:46.093 --> 00:24:48.313
I'm in the DMV when you hit at D.C.,
00:24:48.333 --> 00:24:49.894
Maryland, and Northern Virginia, right?
00:24:50.473 --> 00:24:50.894
D.C.
00:24:50.953 --> 00:24:52.933
and Maryland, right beside us,
00:24:53.314 --> 00:24:54.595
have shot clocks for high
00:24:54.634 --> 00:24:55.595
school basketball.
00:24:57.174 --> 00:24:59.276
But yet the VHSL last summer,
00:24:59.296 --> 00:25:00.615
this past summer,
00:25:00.715 --> 00:25:02.416
approved student athletes
00:25:02.457 --> 00:25:03.517
to get NIL money.
00:25:04.545 --> 00:25:06.045
which I thought was insane
00:25:06.105 --> 00:25:06.685
because this is a
00:25:06.705 --> 00:25:08.306
conservative group of people.
00:25:08.786 --> 00:25:10.365
Yet you won't get a shot clock.
00:25:10.906 --> 00:25:11.807
Get a shot clock.
00:25:11.987 --> 00:25:13.047
Make it 40 seconds.
00:25:13.686 --> 00:25:15.607
Make it 60 seconds.
00:25:15.788 --> 00:25:16.627
They don't care about the
00:25:16.688 --> 00:25:18.008
integrity of the game, man.
00:25:18.208 --> 00:25:19.709
They're worried about, you know,
00:25:19.808 --> 00:25:22.429
things lying in their pockets.
00:25:23.108 --> 00:25:24.869
Hey, let me ask you this, Dwight.
00:25:24.910 --> 00:25:25.890
One more question on NIL
00:25:25.910 --> 00:25:27.210
before we jump to the next subject.
00:25:28.030 --> 00:25:28.851
Next 10 years,
00:25:29.411 --> 00:25:30.911
how important is it for the
00:25:30.971 --> 00:25:33.372
program to have that right support staff?
00:25:33.432 --> 00:25:33.632
Like,
00:25:34.412 --> 00:25:35.271
Like, I mean,
00:25:35.291 --> 00:25:36.073
are we going to have to have
00:25:36.133 --> 00:25:38.374
financial planners on staff
00:25:38.773 --> 00:25:39.253
for all these?
00:25:39.273 --> 00:25:39.453
Like,
00:25:39.894 --> 00:25:42.315
you just got an $80,000 that you need
00:25:42.355 --> 00:25:43.736
to go down there and see John.
00:25:43.875 --> 00:25:44.996
John knows what to help you
00:25:45.036 --> 00:25:46.656
do with the money, help you invest it.
00:25:47.257 --> 00:25:48.798
He'll tell you if it's a good purchase.
00:25:49.337 --> 00:25:49.637
I mean,
00:25:49.837 --> 00:25:51.419
is that going to become – are we
00:25:51.439 --> 00:25:51.979
going to have, like,
00:25:52.038 --> 00:25:53.119
financial planners sitting
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:54.539
on staff 10 years from now?
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:55.079
You know,
00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:56.361
you need it because here's the thing.
00:25:56.381 --> 00:25:57.361
You're getting money in college.
00:25:57.381 --> 00:25:58.821
You're getting money in high school,
00:25:58.882 --> 00:25:59.981
Curtis, and on top of it.
00:26:00.502 --> 00:26:01.863
I remember my cousin Mike
00:26:01.883 --> 00:26:03.003
was talking about he was
00:26:03.064 --> 00:26:03.903
sitting in a room
00:26:04.484 --> 00:26:05.566
with Jim Kelly's brother,
00:26:05.605 --> 00:26:06.507
the great quarterback for
00:26:06.527 --> 00:26:07.426
the Buffalo Bills.
00:26:08.729 --> 00:26:09.648
And he said his, you know,
00:26:09.689 --> 00:26:11.089
his brother had a financial
00:26:11.191 --> 00:26:11.990
management company,
00:26:12.010 --> 00:26:12.991
and they were also agents.
00:26:13.653 --> 00:26:14.933
And I was talking with Mike
00:26:15.054 --> 00:26:16.355
after the meeting, he was like, you know,
00:26:16.375 --> 00:26:18.777
they had flow charts and portfolios.
00:26:19.116 --> 00:26:19.396
Yeah, well,
00:26:19.416 --> 00:26:21.739
we come from the 757 then and now,
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:23.621
we didn't grow up around that shit.
00:26:23.820 --> 00:26:25.883
We I went to a public school,
00:26:26.303 --> 00:26:27.304
Hampton High didn't get air
00:26:27.324 --> 00:26:28.865
conditioned until my senior year,
00:26:29.266 --> 00:26:29.885
we went to school.
00:26:29.925 --> 00:26:30.906
So if it was too hot,
00:26:31.586 --> 00:26:32.586
We had to get out early.
00:26:32.646 --> 00:26:33.807
We had inhumane living
00:26:33.846 --> 00:26:36.827
conditions in regards to going to school.
00:26:36.907 --> 00:26:37.867
It was very difficult.
00:26:37.948 --> 00:26:38.508
And you're supposed to be in
00:26:38.528 --> 00:26:39.748
a conducive learning environment.
00:26:40.167 --> 00:26:42.068
We come, I don't get all deep.
00:26:42.108 --> 00:26:43.108
Like we come from the mud
00:26:43.148 --> 00:26:43.888
and the slums because
00:26:43.929 --> 00:26:44.548
Virginia Beach and
00:26:44.568 --> 00:26:45.509
Chesapeake has some very
00:26:45.568 --> 00:26:47.430
great places to live and reside.
00:26:47.849 --> 00:26:48.490
So does Hampton.
00:26:48.529 --> 00:26:49.250
I lived in a good
00:26:49.289 --> 00:26:50.170
neighborhood once we moved
00:26:50.230 --> 00:26:50.890
off Shell Road.
00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:52.550
But my point being is, man,
00:26:52.570 --> 00:26:54.371
a lot of us then and now don't know.
00:26:54.911 --> 00:26:56.250
Unless you come from a home
00:26:56.810 --> 00:26:57.971
where you have family that
00:26:58.031 --> 00:26:59.011
teaches about 401s and 457s
00:27:00.874 --> 00:27:02.714
and portfolios and just
00:27:02.775 --> 00:27:04.217
saving your money and
00:27:04.277 --> 00:27:05.156
putting something aside.
00:27:05.436 --> 00:27:06.178
We're just trying to get
00:27:06.238 --> 00:27:07.798
turned up and just get something.
00:27:07.818 --> 00:27:08.779
And a lot of times, man,
00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:09.881
even when I got a little
00:27:09.901 --> 00:27:10.641
bit of money I got,
00:27:10.701 --> 00:27:11.922
I just send something back home.
00:27:12.482 --> 00:27:13.182
You know what I'm saying?
00:27:13.323 --> 00:27:14.864
And it's just the way it is.
00:27:14.963 --> 00:27:16.526
And it's not even a black or white thing.
00:27:16.586 --> 00:27:18.626
It's just more so an awareness thing.
00:27:18.747 --> 00:27:19.567
Because there's some white
00:27:19.647 --> 00:27:20.428
people and other people
00:27:20.448 --> 00:27:21.368
that come from environments
00:27:21.648 --> 00:27:22.490
where they don't know either.
00:27:22.950 --> 00:27:24.211
But my point being is this.
00:27:25.551 --> 00:27:26.633
The game is changing.
00:27:26.712 --> 00:27:27.733
And props seems to have a
00:27:27.794 --> 00:27:29.194
good pulse on what's going on.
00:27:29.833 --> 00:27:30.913
And I've always felt that
00:27:30.973 --> 00:27:32.794
coaches that get ahead of stuff,
00:27:33.295 --> 00:27:34.355
that look ahead,
00:27:34.375 --> 00:27:35.675
they'll set their players
00:27:35.796 --> 00:27:37.056
up to be straight.
00:27:37.496 --> 00:27:38.997
Because I can tell you right now,
00:27:39.017 --> 00:27:42.018
despite my complaining or my concerns,
00:27:42.598 --> 00:27:43.558
the money in college
00:27:43.578 --> 00:27:45.680
football and basketball is going to grow.
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.540
It's so funny how when we
00:27:47.560 --> 00:27:49.040
talk about recessions or whatever,
00:27:49.060 --> 00:27:50.082
when it comes to sports,
00:27:50.582 --> 00:27:51.643
the money's still there.
00:27:52.002 --> 00:27:53.123
As a matter of fact,
00:27:53.182 --> 00:27:54.644
I heard this morning on one
00:27:54.663 --> 00:27:56.065
of my sports shows I listen to,
00:27:56.384 --> 00:27:57.065
they're talking about
00:27:57.105 --> 00:27:59.145
expanding the NCAA tournament again.
00:28:00.028 --> 00:28:00.269
Yeah.
00:28:00.909 --> 00:28:01.509
You know what I'm saying?
00:28:01.569 --> 00:28:02.710
And look, gambling,
00:28:02.890 --> 00:28:04.211
I know I got my parlays.
00:28:04.651 --> 00:28:08.452
You know, money is crazy right now, man.
00:28:08.492 --> 00:28:09.894
Like everybody's gambling.
00:28:10.453 --> 00:28:11.414
I know shorties that are
00:28:11.434 --> 00:28:12.414
gambling right now, man.
00:28:12.454 --> 00:28:13.135
It's crazy.
00:28:14.175 --> 00:28:14.435
Yeah.
00:28:14.676 --> 00:28:16.136
They're going to have to get that, man.
00:28:16.196 --> 00:28:18.018
Because if you're going to preach family,
00:28:18.117 --> 00:28:19.259
you're going to preach this is home.
00:28:19.298 --> 00:28:19.999
It's not just tech.
00:28:20.419 --> 00:28:21.180
If you're going to really
00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:22.721
want to look out for these young men,
00:28:23.401 --> 00:28:24.221
you know, we,
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.442
you have your Gerard Evans
00:28:25.501 --> 00:28:26.403
and you have your
00:28:26.982 --> 00:28:29.064
quarterbacks and your star players, um,
00:28:29.901 --> 00:28:32.182
got caron um drones and all
00:28:32.202 --> 00:28:33.345
those guys who I think is
00:28:33.365 --> 00:28:34.184
going to be a heisman
00:28:34.226 --> 00:28:35.507
candidate when it's all
00:28:35.547 --> 00:28:36.948
said and done but you also
00:28:36.988 --> 00:28:37.608
have your middle of the
00:28:37.628 --> 00:28:39.049
pack players who are going
00:28:39.069 --> 00:28:40.711
to get smaller deals and
00:28:40.731 --> 00:28:42.053
they need help you know
00:28:42.173 --> 00:28:43.255
they need help we need to
00:28:43.474 --> 00:28:44.496
what do I do with thirty
00:28:44.536 --> 00:28:46.136
thousand dollars right you
00:28:46.156 --> 00:28:46.998
know what do I mean for
00:28:47.018 --> 00:28:47.878
real think about when you
00:28:47.898 --> 00:28:49.540
were 19 what thirty
00:28:49.580 --> 00:28:50.382
thousand dollars look like
00:28:50.402 --> 00:28:51.142
because I remember when my
00:28:54.097 --> 00:28:55.038
I'm 38, and if I got 30,000,
00:28:55.038 --> 00:28:56.838
it's going to get blue right now.
00:28:59.140 --> 00:29:00.059
Yo, yo, that's crazy.
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:01.220
My cousin called me.
00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:02.819
I was living in Fairfax.
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.401
I had just gotten married in 2001.
00:29:04.441 --> 00:29:05.661
He was the first overall pick.
00:29:05.980 --> 00:29:07.500
I remember Mike called me and was like, yo,
00:29:07.520 --> 00:29:08.882
Dwight, man, come down and live with me.
00:29:08.922 --> 00:29:09.741
I'll take care of you.
00:29:10.402 --> 00:29:11.162
And he was just talking to
00:29:11.182 --> 00:29:12.262
me about the money he got.
00:29:12.343 --> 00:29:13.222
And then when I went down
00:29:13.242 --> 00:29:15.083
there about four years, five years later,
00:29:15.123 --> 00:29:16.182
he was the face of the league.
00:29:16.242 --> 00:29:17.483
This is when Brady and
00:29:17.523 --> 00:29:18.443
Manning were still playing.
00:29:19.115 --> 00:29:19.976
And he was getting ready to
00:29:19.996 --> 00:29:21.257
sign a record contract.
00:29:21.277 --> 00:29:23.517
He was the highest paid player in the NFL.
00:29:23.798 --> 00:29:24.518
He was about to be.
00:29:25.178 --> 00:29:26.057
And I remember sitting with him.
00:29:26.077 --> 00:29:26.979
We were in Atlanta.
00:29:27.179 --> 00:29:28.259
And we were in a gated
00:29:28.278 --> 00:29:30.259
community where little Bow Wow lived,
00:29:30.299 --> 00:29:31.700
David Justice and Allie Berry.
00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:32.759
We're in Atlanta.
00:29:32.820 --> 00:29:33.000
Like,
00:29:33.020 --> 00:29:34.361
you can't even go in this neighborhood,
00:29:34.441 --> 00:29:34.721
right?
00:29:35.560 --> 00:29:36.961
We in there, me and him hanging out.
00:29:37.721 --> 00:29:39.403
And I remember he showed me on his laptop.
00:29:39.423 --> 00:29:41.002
He just pulled it up.
00:29:41.242 --> 00:29:41.762
He said, yo,
00:29:41.782 --> 00:29:43.284
sometimes I just stare at this, man.
00:29:43.904 --> 00:29:44.865
And it was his bank account.
00:29:44.904 --> 00:29:46.905
I remember seeing to this day, it's crazy.
00:29:46.925 --> 00:29:48.507
It's like seeing the golden
00:29:48.586 --> 00:29:50.008
ticket you got from Willy Wonka.
00:29:50.508 --> 00:29:51.468
It was crazy because I was
00:29:51.488 --> 00:29:52.188
looking at his screen.
00:29:52.228 --> 00:29:54.849
It was like twenty seven million dollars.
00:29:56.369 --> 00:29:57.671
And you go from getting per
00:29:57.711 --> 00:30:01.711
diem from Bruce and Berlin,
00:30:02.292 --> 00:30:03.053
ten dollars a week.
00:30:03.887 --> 00:30:04.989
that was the game money we
00:30:05.028 --> 00:30:07.769
got or bowl game money to $27 million,
00:30:08.050 --> 00:30:08.550
bro.
00:30:08.750 --> 00:30:09.611
That's crazy.
00:30:09.731 --> 00:30:10.092
That's crazy.
00:30:10.112 --> 00:30:10.711
That's crazy.
00:30:11.051 --> 00:30:11.692
It's crazy.
00:30:12.113 --> 00:30:12.792
Well, you hit on,
00:30:12.853 --> 00:30:14.453
you was hitting on a lot of stuff, man.
00:30:14.654 --> 00:30:15.075
And I know,
00:30:15.095 --> 00:30:16.875
I know we ain't got you all
00:30:16.935 --> 00:30:17.576
night tonight.
00:30:17.615 --> 00:30:19.317
I know we got some other stuff to do, but,
00:30:19.376 --> 00:30:21.739
um, we talked a couple of things that no,
00:30:21.778 --> 00:30:22.398
you all good.
00:30:22.499 --> 00:30:23.099
You all good.
00:30:23.180 --> 00:30:24.420
I, uh, I,
00:30:24.641 --> 00:30:26.481
I wanted to chime in a little bit
00:30:26.501 --> 00:30:28.262
with the triumph, um, um,
00:30:28.982 --> 00:30:31.845
NIL that Virginia tech has, um,
00:30:32.642 --> 00:30:34.845
From what I hear, I'm just a fan,
00:30:35.404 --> 00:30:37.067
but reliable sources tell
00:30:37.106 --> 00:30:38.808
me that Triumph has
00:30:38.868 --> 00:30:41.231
Virginia Tech moving in the
00:30:41.271 --> 00:30:42.732
right direction in the NIL.
00:30:43.253 --> 00:30:44.434
They said they already have
00:30:44.955 --> 00:30:46.458
people in place that are
00:30:46.498 --> 00:30:47.679
talking to kids about
00:30:48.611 --> 00:30:51.291
financial planning, which is awesome.
00:30:52.132 --> 00:30:54.553
Everybody, you should feel good out there.
00:30:54.853 --> 00:30:55.814
I think we're moving in the
00:30:55.854 --> 00:30:56.433
right direction.
00:30:56.594 --> 00:30:56.953
Dwight,
00:30:57.354 --> 00:31:00.454
we want to change it up just a
00:31:00.494 --> 00:31:00.875
little bit.
00:31:01.234 --> 00:31:02.895
Start talking some high school recruiting.
00:31:04.155 --> 00:31:05.756
We know you are boots on the
00:31:05.817 --> 00:31:08.196
ground as far as knowing a
00:31:08.257 --> 00:31:09.596
lot of these kids,
00:31:09.757 --> 00:31:11.498
knowing the areas and things like that.
00:31:11.998 --> 00:31:14.057
You said a few minutes ago
00:31:14.097 --> 00:31:15.057
that you feel like Pryor
00:31:15.417 --> 00:31:16.479
had gotten out ahead of
00:31:16.499 --> 00:31:17.459
some things and he was
00:31:17.499 --> 00:31:18.338
doing some things right.
00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:20.539
We've seen an uptick in
00:31:20.579 --> 00:31:21.619
recruiting in Virginia,
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.500
specifically the 757.
00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:26.361
What is resonating right now?
00:31:26.401 --> 00:31:28.760
What is he doing that's got
00:31:28.800 --> 00:31:31.122
Virginia taking the uptick?
00:31:31.162 --> 00:31:32.461
What's crazy, bro, is
00:31:34.019 --> 00:31:36.239
He's following Beamer's blueprint.
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:37.519
He's making it more modern.
00:31:38.339 --> 00:31:39.880
I kept saying all Fuente had
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:41.560
to do was just evolve and
00:31:41.601 --> 00:31:43.861
build on Beamer's blueprint
00:31:43.941 --> 00:31:46.142
and make it more modern and
00:31:46.801 --> 00:31:48.582
get on social media, be more hip,
00:31:49.001 --> 00:31:50.442
talk to the fans.
00:31:50.462 --> 00:31:52.663
And we got this guy coming
00:31:52.722 --> 00:31:54.663
and roll out the red carpet.
00:31:54.863 --> 00:31:56.084
And I'm telling you, man,
00:31:56.124 --> 00:31:57.324
Proz is doing what makes sense.
00:31:57.644 --> 00:31:58.763
The crazy thing now,
00:31:58.884 --> 00:32:00.025
and it's crazy how quickly
00:32:00.045 --> 00:32:01.204
this thing has turned around,
00:32:02.164 --> 00:32:03.445
Between Triumph and the
00:32:03.546 --> 00:32:04.906
Collectives and what you
00:32:04.926 --> 00:32:06.087
got going on with them and
00:32:06.127 --> 00:32:07.209
how they're connecting with
00:32:07.249 --> 00:32:09.131
the former players and the
00:32:09.871 --> 00:32:11.011
superstar former players
00:32:11.071 --> 00:32:11.932
and current players,
00:32:12.032 --> 00:32:13.634
and then you look at what Pry is doing,
00:32:14.154 --> 00:32:15.655
it's a really good hustle right now,
00:32:15.675 --> 00:32:16.636
and a hustle in a good way.
00:32:16.656 --> 00:32:18.057
It's a great marriage right now.
00:32:18.659 --> 00:32:21.621
Pry is making Virginia Tech hip again.
00:32:22.281 --> 00:32:22.501
Like,
00:32:23.123 --> 00:32:23.962
I don't know how to – I'm just
00:32:24.002 --> 00:32:25.144
telling you, I'm a Virginian,
00:32:25.444 --> 00:32:26.685
and I remember in the 90s
00:32:26.986 --> 00:32:27.586
and even the early 2000s,
00:32:29.076 --> 00:32:29.958
when I was done playing,
00:32:29.998 --> 00:32:30.961
but I was still like a
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.203
former player where I just
00:32:32.223 --> 00:32:32.744
finished playing.
00:32:32.765 --> 00:32:34.509
I was still playing some pro
00:32:34.549 --> 00:32:35.491
ball and working out for
00:32:35.551 --> 00:32:37.317
NFL scouts and doing arena ball.
00:32:37.833 --> 00:32:39.512
And when I went home in the
00:32:39.813 --> 00:32:41.673
2000s or when I was in D.C.
00:32:42.134 --> 00:32:43.894
or even when I went to Chicago one time,
00:32:44.394 --> 00:32:45.673
people knew about tech.
00:32:46.034 --> 00:32:46.914
I remember I would have on
00:32:46.974 --> 00:32:47.734
tech sweatsuits.
00:32:47.755 --> 00:32:48.755
We were on video games.
00:32:49.194 --> 00:32:50.994
This is back when East Bay was popping.
00:32:51.474 --> 00:32:53.816
And when you went to Virginia Beach,
00:32:53.855 --> 00:32:54.435
Chesapeake,
00:32:54.476 --> 00:32:56.395
Newport News or the 804 in Richmond,
00:32:56.855 --> 00:32:57.476
it was like, yo,
00:32:57.496 --> 00:32:58.435
I'm trying to go to tech.
00:32:58.496 --> 00:33:00.396
Like, you got to understand something,
00:33:00.416 --> 00:33:00.517
man.
00:33:00.537 --> 00:33:01.416
A lot of those guys we
00:33:01.436 --> 00:33:02.936
missed out on were tech fans.
00:33:02.977 --> 00:33:04.857
Derek Nottie, Josh Sweat.
00:33:05.478 --> 00:33:07.317
They were all tech fans growing up.
00:33:07.699 --> 00:33:09.599
Smoke Mazel was a Tech fan.
00:33:10.059 --> 00:33:11.601
Andrew Brown was a Tech fan.
00:33:11.681 --> 00:33:13.020
I'm naming guys.
00:33:13.280 --> 00:33:15.342
We burned that thoroughbred bridge, man.
00:33:18.282 --> 00:33:19.002
And see, again,
00:33:19.022 --> 00:33:20.163
that's funny you said that
00:33:20.243 --> 00:33:22.585
because Fry knows Coach Red
00:33:22.684 --> 00:33:23.585
and the Colt boys.
00:33:23.904 --> 00:33:25.506
The Colt boys are a group
00:33:25.546 --> 00:33:27.666
down in 757 that have tons
00:33:27.747 --> 00:33:30.488
of guys in the 757 that are
00:33:30.548 --> 00:33:32.167
only 7-on-7 teams that are
00:33:32.228 --> 00:33:34.128
really young in the upcoming studs.
00:33:34.608 --> 00:33:36.170
And the truth of the matter is that
00:33:37.451 --> 00:33:40.593
they know pride and they know tech.
00:33:41.554 --> 00:33:42.653
Just for the lack of a
00:33:42.693 --> 00:33:44.055
better phrase or whatever,
00:33:44.075 --> 00:33:45.476
he's just making tech great again.
00:33:45.516 --> 00:33:47.198
He's making them hip.
00:33:47.218 --> 00:33:48.317
We still have a long way to
00:33:48.377 --> 00:33:49.538
go to get back to where we
00:33:49.578 --> 00:33:51.259
want to be because my goal,
00:33:51.300 --> 00:33:52.421
I'm surprised the same goal
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:53.201
is to exceed the
00:33:53.281 --> 00:33:55.143
expectations of just 10 and
00:33:55.143 --> 00:33:55.963
11 win seasons,
00:33:56.003 --> 00:33:57.204
but to be relevant to the
00:33:57.285 --> 00:33:59.705
point where you wake up on Sunday morning,
00:33:59.747 --> 00:34:01.548
you expect to see us in the top 15,
00:34:01.548 --> 00:34:02.508
top 12 in the ranking.
00:34:03.148 --> 00:34:03.548
Kids are
00:34:05.028 --> 00:34:06.028
The thing about it is, man,
00:34:06.088 --> 00:34:08.690
kids are checking for tech now, man.
00:34:08.869 --> 00:34:09.889
They're checking for tech.
00:34:09.909 --> 00:34:13.050
Like, kids in Norfolk, like, they're like,
00:34:13.070 --> 00:34:13.811
yeah, I'm going to tech.
00:34:13.831 --> 00:34:14.311
You going to?
00:34:14.331 --> 00:34:15.710
You got to understand something.
00:34:15.731 --> 00:34:17.030
I know this is a true story.
00:34:17.492 --> 00:34:18.831
Tyrod Teller is my guy.
00:34:19.291 --> 00:34:20.452
He played in my high school.
00:34:21.032 --> 00:34:22.452
We both were Hanson High Cravers.
00:34:22.972 --> 00:34:24.032
He saw me play.
00:34:24.112 --> 00:34:25.333
I remember seeing Tyrod as a
00:34:25.353 --> 00:34:26.672
middle schooler throwing
00:34:26.693 --> 00:34:28.173
the ball at my neighbor's
00:34:28.213 --> 00:34:29.054
house because he was tight
00:34:29.074 --> 00:34:29.914
with their grandson.
00:34:30.585 --> 00:34:32.829
And Tyrod knew about tech.
00:34:32.909 --> 00:34:34.451
And when Tyrod was being recruited,
00:34:34.791 --> 00:34:36.072
him and Ryan Williams and
00:34:36.132 --> 00:34:37.034
all them met up one time.
00:34:37.054 --> 00:34:37.795
I don't know if they were at
00:34:37.815 --> 00:34:38.815
track meet or whatever.
00:34:39.197 --> 00:34:40.038
But they were somewhere.
00:34:40.077 --> 00:34:40.699
They were like, yo.
00:34:41.286 --> 00:34:42.067
I'm feeling sick, man.
00:34:42.106 --> 00:34:42.847
I'm going to go there.
00:34:42.887 --> 00:34:44.449
Like, you know, remember now,
00:34:44.608 --> 00:34:45.710
we used to be so cool.
00:34:45.730 --> 00:34:47.731
We had household names like Marcus Vick,
00:34:48.152 --> 00:34:50.193
Aaron Rouse, and all those guys.
00:34:50.273 --> 00:34:51.333
And I remember we played in
00:34:51.414 --> 00:34:52.896
NC State one time on a
00:34:53.797 --> 00:34:54.817
Saturday night game.
00:34:54.896 --> 00:34:56.918
It was the 2005 season.
00:34:57.298 --> 00:34:58.360
And we were at NC State,
00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:59.440
first time playing them.
00:34:59.802 --> 00:35:01.362
And I remember we scored a touchdown.
00:35:01.762 --> 00:35:03.844
And Marcus and them posed like Marcus.
00:35:04.306 --> 00:35:06.266
and hyman and justin harper
00:35:06.306 --> 00:35:07.268
and all the guys on the end
00:35:07.307 --> 00:35:08.527
zone and they were posing
00:35:08.568 --> 00:35:09.449
taking pictures and they
00:35:09.469 --> 00:35:10.869
were doing like this and
00:35:10.889 --> 00:35:11.949
they were doing like that
00:35:12.409 --> 00:35:13.590
dj parker and all those
00:35:13.630 --> 00:35:15.391
guys we had so many
00:35:15.472 --> 00:35:16.552
virginians and they were
00:35:16.572 --> 00:35:18.313
just superstars in their
00:35:18.393 --> 00:35:19.753
own state and it became I
00:35:20.835 --> 00:35:22.155
remember um chris chris
00:35:22.195 --> 00:35:23.356
coleman for tech sideline
00:35:23.416 --> 00:35:25.356
said virginia tech is
00:35:25.396 --> 00:35:26.438
virginia's favorite team
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.119
because you know the
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.581
washington commanders then
00:35:29.601 --> 00:35:31.681
the redskins were trash um
00:35:31.900 --> 00:35:32.661
they you know they were
00:35:32.681 --> 00:35:34.782
owned by snyder um uva was
00:35:34.802 --> 00:35:35.702
still rebuilt they've been
00:35:35.742 --> 00:35:36.963
rebuilding for a long time
00:35:37.742 --> 00:35:38.782
and you know liberty didn't
00:35:38.802 --> 00:35:40.344
even have football or they
00:35:40.384 --> 00:35:41.543
were whatever I don't think
00:35:41.563 --> 00:35:42.545
they had football yet oh
00:35:42.585 --> 00:35:44.224
you didn't have football we
00:35:44.244 --> 00:35:46.346
were the team you know and
00:35:46.385 --> 00:35:47.326
you had the entrance you
00:35:47.346 --> 00:35:48.646
had the fan the alumni and
00:35:48.666 --> 00:35:49.527
the one thing I want to say
00:35:49.567 --> 00:35:50.947
real quick and we go to the next question
00:35:51.909 --> 00:35:53.371
The alumni and fan base,
00:35:53.411 --> 00:35:54.632
despite this transition
00:35:54.652 --> 00:35:56.893
from Beamer to Fuente to Frye,
00:35:57.474 --> 00:35:58.576
they're one reason why
00:35:58.596 --> 00:35:59.876
we've been able to right the ship.
00:36:00.318 --> 00:36:01.980
Because as bad as we've been
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:03.581
and underachieved as we've been,
00:36:04.521 --> 00:36:06.704
great podcasts like yours, Don V,
00:36:06.764 --> 00:36:08.967
all these other shows, and the fan base,
00:36:09.630 --> 00:36:10.793
Virginia Tech fan base on
00:36:10.813 --> 00:36:12.315
Twitter is lit all the time.
00:36:12.775 --> 00:36:14.556
It could be a Tuesday night and we're lit.
00:36:14.938 --> 00:36:15.998
When we come and you give us
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.340
a product that's worth watching,
00:36:17.780 --> 00:36:18.661
last year at home,
00:36:18.762 --> 00:36:20.384
Virginia Tech was on fire.
00:36:20.664 --> 00:36:21.826
Virginia Tech recruits were
00:36:21.846 --> 00:36:23.268
there to see it.
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:28.759
Like,
00:36:28.838 --> 00:36:30.980
it felt – that game against Syracuse
00:36:31.019 --> 00:36:33.101
felt so much like the
00:36:33.221 --> 00:36:34.842
overhyped Miami game when
00:36:34.882 --> 00:36:36.543
we hosted Percy Harvin and
00:36:36.603 --> 00:36:37.702
over 200 recruits.
00:36:38.202 --> 00:36:39.503
We went to bed that night.
00:36:39.943 --> 00:36:40.784
We didn't play well.
00:36:41.304 --> 00:36:42.784
But we had so many people
00:36:42.804 --> 00:36:43.925
there because Virginia Tech
00:36:44.445 --> 00:36:45.987
was in the top three in the nation.
00:36:46.306 --> 00:36:47.666
Number five in the nation, I believe,
00:36:47.686 --> 00:36:47.887
yeah.
00:36:47.947 --> 00:36:51.048
So, you know, I know it's a long answer,
00:36:51.088 --> 00:36:52.208
but I just feel like it was
00:36:52.289 --> 00:36:53.949
relevant to the question.
00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:55.610
All right, Dwight, real quick.
00:36:55.650 --> 00:36:56.610
I'm going to throw this to
00:36:56.630 --> 00:36:57.831
him before I throw it to Curtis.
00:36:58.748 --> 00:36:59.208
Give me,
00:36:59.329 --> 00:37:00.630
because you always do this when
00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:03.891
you come on, give me, I usually say one,
00:37:03.911 --> 00:37:05.851
I'm going to say two kids
00:37:06.813 --> 00:37:08.514
that we need to look out for.
00:37:08.534 --> 00:37:09.373
I ain't saying they going to
00:37:09.393 --> 00:37:10.054
Virginia Tech.
00:37:10.534 --> 00:37:12.135
I'm just saying two Virginia kids,
00:37:12.876 --> 00:37:15.697
there's 25 kids that we
00:37:15.737 --> 00:37:16.617
need to be looking for.
00:37:17.498 --> 00:37:18.137
I don't have,
00:37:18.998 --> 00:37:20.559
because I've been in basketball mode,
00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:22.500
so hit me with that next
00:37:22.539 --> 00:37:24.161
time we do our season preview.
00:37:24.481 --> 00:37:28.043
But I do have a kid I'm very high on, and
00:37:28.826 --> 00:37:29.927
It's going to sound like a homer,
00:37:29.967 --> 00:37:30.728
but this kid,
00:37:31.307 --> 00:37:32.849
his name is Jackson McCarter.
00:37:33.329 --> 00:37:34.150
And there's another kid.
00:37:34.170 --> 00:37:34.911
I got two for you,
00:37:34.952 --> 00:37:36.492
but one you probably heard of.
00:37:36.934 --> 00:37:38.994
Jackson McCarter is a running back.
00:37:39.576 --> 00:37:40.836
He is super fast.
00:37:40.876 --> 00:37:42.197
He runs track at Patriot,
00:37:42.237 --> 00:37:43.179
but he plays football.
00:37:43.659 --> 00:37:45.822
He was just there on a visit last week.
00:37:46.242 --> 00:37:48.643
You probably saw me retweet his tweet.
00:37:48.764 --> 00:37:50.907
He is an animal.
00:37:51.347 --> 00:37:52.327
I'm telling you right now.
00:37:52.788 --> 00:37:53.369
He's a kid.
00:37:54.418 --> 00:37:55.358
One of those kids that's a
00:37:55.378 --> 00:37:56.358
Virginia Tech guy.
00:37:56.820 --> 00:37:57.460
Like he just,
00:37:57.880 --> 00:37:59.780
he can run the football and he gets out,
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:00.722
you're not catching him.
00:38:01.081 --> 00:38:02.402
But the number one guy,
00:38:02.623 --> 00:38:03.943
I really wish we can land.
00:38:03.983 --> 00:38:05.005
I hope we can land him.
00:38:05.445 --> 00:38:06.465
I've seen him play since he
00:38:06.525 --> 00:38:07.985
was nine years old.
00:38:08.025 --> 00:38:09.746
His name is Jeff Overton Jr.
00:38:10.327 --> 00:38:11.909
He played in the Freedom Woodbridge.
00:38:12.268 --> 00:38:13.210
Oh yeah, we heard about it.
00:38:13.269 --> 00:38:16.451
I coached against him in youth ball.
00:38:16.512 --> 00:38:17.692
My son played against him.
00:38:18.512 --> 00:38:19.132
And then of course,
00:38:19.152 --> 00:38:20.434
my son went to basketball.
00:38:20.494 --> 00:38:21.715
Jeff stuck with football.
00:38:22.155 --> 00:38:23.795
His dad won a state championship.
00:38:24.349 --> 00:38:25.329
His dad is his coach.
00:38:25.389 --> 00:38:26.831
His uncle just won
00:38:26.871 --> 00:38:27.652
back-to-back state
00:38:27.672 --> 00:38:28.313
championships at
00:38:28.333 --> 00:38:30.096
Freedomwood Bridge last
00:38:30.135 --> 00:38:31.677
this past season over my brother,
00:38:31.717 --> 00:38:33.338
Loren Johnson, at Highland Springs.
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:38.324
And then the previous year, he won against,
00:38:39.186 --> 00:38:41.248
I forgot the team, not Stonebridge,
00:38:41.288 --> 00:38:42.909
but they won back-to-back
00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:43.811
state championships.
00:38:44.409 --> 00:38:45.829
And Jeffrey Overton Jr.,
00:38:45.849 --> 00:38:46.829
if you ever see his tape,
00:38:47.409 --> 00:38:51.010
he is going to remind you of Reggie Bush.
00:38:51.030 --> 00:38:52.632
He is electric.
00:38:53.092 --> 00:38:54.052
He can carry.
00:38:54.512 --> 00:38:55.233
He can run.
00:38:55.373 --> 00:38:56.574
And he is shifty.
00:38:57.074 --> 00:38:58.074
And he is a playmaker.
00:38:58.094 --> 00:39:00.135
He has offers from NC State.
00:39:00.155 --> 00:39:00.715
Well, probably.
00:39:01.014 --> 00:39:01.855
I know he has an offer from
00:39:01.954 --> 00:39:03.076
Ohio State and Clemson.
00:39:03.835 --> 00:39:05.617
And he's been to Tech a few times.
00:39:05.697 --> 00:39:07.478
Tech was just in with their entire staff,
00:39:07.557 --> 00:39:08.358
or at least five of them,
00:39:08.797 --> 00:39:09.677
to meet with him a couple
00:39:09.697 --> 00:39:12.440
of months ago up here in the 703.
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:13.320
He is an animal.
00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:14.521
I'm telling you right now.
00:39:14.541 --> 00:39:16.481
Jeffrey Overton.
00:39:16.561 --> 00:39:19.782
Jeffrey Overton Jr., he is a game changer.
00:39:19.802 --> 00:39:21.282
He's a program changer.
00:39:21.302 --> 00:39:22.744
Remember I said Pryor has to
00:39:22.764 --> 00:39:23.784
start stacking his Mount
00:39:23.844 --> 00:39:24.923
Rushmore recruits?
00:39:25.344 --> 00:39:26.485
That's a guy.
00:39:26.985 --> 00:39:28.125
You look what Tootin' doing,
00:39:28.605 --> 00:39:30.925
he is Tootin' already.
00:39:31.166 --> 00:39:32.827
Tootin' with how he's all-purpose yards,
00:39:32.847 --> 00:39:33.606
kickoff returns.
00:39:34.407 --> 00:39:35.547
Jeffrey Overton Jr.
00:39:35.606 --> 00:39:37.288
is the same kind of back.
00:39:37.887 --> 00:39:39.728
Again, like Brandon Orr,
00:39:39.748 --> 00:39:41.208
the moment he touched it, he's like boom,
00:39:41.228 --> 00:39:41.748
boom, boom.
00:39:42.677 --> 00:39:43.277
even better.
00:39:43.597 --> 00:39:44.458
Now, here's the thing.
00:39:45.798 --> 00:39:46.900
You got to keep recruiting him.
00:39:47.420 --> 00:39:48.661
That's when that NIL money,
00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:50.141
I've never talked to his
00:39:50.181 --> 00:39:51.141
dad about his son.
00:39:51.161 --> 00:39:51.981
I don't do all that.
00:39:52.483 --> 00:39:53.242
I didn't get involved with
00:39:53.262 --> 00:39:54.224
Greg Stroman's recruiting
00:39:54.284 --> 00:39:55.164
or Tim Settle Jr.
00:39:55.143 --> 00:39:56.005
's, but I will tell you,
00:39:56.025 --> 00:39:57.826
you got to take care of him
00:39:57.846 --> 00:39:58.626
because he's going to have
00:39:58.686 --> 00:39:59.726
even more people on him.
00:39:59.907 --> 00:40:01.128
His uncle just left Freedom
00:40:01.168 --> 00:40:01.728
and he's coaching at
00:40:01.768 --> 00:40:03.909
Hayfield up in Alexandria now,
00:40:03.929 --> 00:40:04.849
but they're going to be a
00:40:04.889 --> 00:40:05.849
contender again for states
00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:07.110
because his uncle, Darrell Overton,
00:40:07.150 --> 00:40:08.331
is a phenomenal coach.
00:40:08.871 --> 00:40:09.893
He's an officer genius.
00:40:09.952 --> 00:40:10.152
And then
00:40:10.885 --> 00:40:11.925
The last guy I'll throw out
00:40:11.965 --> 00:40:12.945
there is a guy y'all
00:40:12.965 --> 00:40:14.126
probably are familiar with, man.
00:40:14.186 --> 00:40:14.806
It's Peanut,
00:40:15.385 --> 00:40:16.746
Lauren Johnson's youngest son.
00:40:17.246 --> 00:40:18.226
He's a linebacker.
00:40:18.867 --> 00:40:20.246
He's one of those guys, again,
00:40:20.266 --> 00:40:21.367
you have his brother there,
00:40:22.927 --> 00:40:23.927
Breeland at Tech.
00:40:24.367 --> 00:40:27.208
But Peanut has even got more dog in him.
00:40:27.969 --> 00:40:29.648
And he's got offers from Auburn,
00:40:29.768 --> 00:40:30.688
SEC schools.
00:40:31.329 --> 00:40:32.269
He's the heart and soul of
00:40:32.289 --> 00:40:33.469
Highland Springs defense.
00:40:33.969 --> 00:40:34.929
And we got a little bit of a
00:40:34.989 --> 00:40:36.311
pipeline going with Highland Springs.
00:40:36.371 --> 00:40:38.170
I like that because those guys win games.
00:40:38.715 --> 00:40:39.856
And I feel like what Beamer
00:40:39.876 --> 00:40:40.958
always did a great job of
00:40:41.018 --> 00:40:41.699
is getting winners.
00:40:41.759 --> 00:40:42.559
And one thing I know from
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:43.902
even my son being recruited
00:40:44.442 --> 00:40:46.644
is that coaches that know
00:40:46.664 --> 00:40:48.246
how to coach like winners
00:40:48.407 --> 00:40:49.387
and talented players.
00:40:50.289 --> 00:40:52.552
So keep those names in your back pocket,
00:40:52.592 --> 00:40:52.853
man.
00:40:53.434 --> 00:40:54.534
I'm going to keep it in the back pocket.
00:40:54.614 --> 00:40:56.077
And he almost took my next
00:40:56.117 --> 00:40:57.157
question because.
00:40:58.173 --> 00:40:58.773
Give me this,
00:40:58.833 --> 00:40:59.735
because you talked about
00:40:59.795 --> 00:41:00.514
coaching winners.
00:41:01.054 --> 00:41:02.356
We know how many team captains.
00:41:02.396 --> 00:41:03.436
We know how many guys who
00:41:03.476 --> 00:41:04.657
are breaking state records,
00:41:04.916 --> 00:41:06.257
whether it be Virginia, North Carolina,
00:41:06.277 --> 00:41:06.818
other parts.
00:41:07.358 --> 00:41:08.699
But as guys who are sitting
00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:11.501
there on campus, do y'all notice that?
00:41:11.701 --> 00:41:12.521
Like, you know,
00:41:13.161 --> 00:41:14.021
like the way they carry
00:41:14.061 --> 00:41:16.322
themselves or like, like, for example,
00:41:17.684 --> 00:41:18.503
the running back from North
00:41:18.543 --> 00:41:20.184
Carolina who ran for 13.7 yards to carry.
00:41:22.010 --> 00:41:23.251
down in North Carolina last year,
00:41:23.411 --> 00:41:24.213
which is insane.
00:41:24.313 --> 00:41:25.353
Doesn't matter the level.
00:41:25.413 --> 00:41:26.534
It's insane you can do that.
00:41:27.074 --> 00:41:29.076
But when they walk in, what is that?
00:41:29.135 --> 00:41:30.396
Does it mean that the guys
00:41:30.476 --> 00:41:32.157
on the team see that and say,
00:41:33.179 --> 00:41:34.360
that guy plays his heart out.
00:41:34.460 --> 00:41:35.460
He plays a dog.
00:41:35.579 --> 00:41:36.780
That guy's got a level head.
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:37.621
He's our captain.
00:41:38.342 --> 00:41:39.623
That guy won two state titles.
00:41:40.384 --> 00:41:42.364
Do you think about that when they come in,
00:41:42.385 --> 00:41:44.527
or is it now you're down here now,
00:41:44.666 --> 00:41:46.168
or is it how you come in
00:41:46.228 --> 00:41:46.867
and carry yourself?
00:41:47.248 --> 00:41:48.710
It's a level of you got to
00:41:48.769 --> 00:41:51.268
earn your spot here, but we know –
00:41:51.268 --> 00:41:52.449
Real recognize real.
00:41:52.489 --> 00:41:53.510
I know I hit y'all with an
00:41:53.530 --> 00:41:55.273
early 2000 hip hop reference,
00:41:55.333 --> 00:41:57.635
but real recognize real.
00:41:57.695 --> 00:41:59.956
Like you recognize a dog when you see one.
00:42:00.197 --> 00:42:02.378
And we talk, I mean, again,
00:42:02.398 --> 00:42:03.699
and this is before social media.
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:04.780
So I know they do it now.
00:42:05.521 --> 00:42:07.583
Everybody has that high school pride.
00:42:07.684 --> 00:42:07.844
Like,
00:42:08.686 --> 00:42:09.648
Them Florida boys,
00:42:09.768 --> 00:42:10.807
even when they were on the team,
00:42:10.827 --> 00:42:11.889
would talk about Florida
00:42:11.909 --> 00:42:13.349
boys and high school players.
00:42:13.869 --> 00:42:14.429
When I was there,
00:42:14.449 --> 00:42:15.411
we talked about Ronald
00:42:15.451 --> 00:42:16.452
Curry and Mike Vick.
00:42:16.552 --> 00:42:19.512
Everyone knew, yo, Big Vick, Dwight Vick,
00:42:19.592 --> 00:42:21.393
constantly talks about his cousin Mike.
00:42:21.894 --> 00:42:23.516
I told everybody that would listen,
00:42:23.976 --> 00:42:25.456
y'all talking about Ronald Curry,
00:42:25.476 --> 00:42:26.237
and I love Ronald.
00:42:26.257 --> 00:42:26.936
He's one of the best
00:42:26.976 --> 00:42:28.938
quarterbacks in the history
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:30.599
of the high school football.
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.161
But you know when you got a
00:42:33.181 --> 00:42:34.681
guy that comes in, you're like, yo,
00:42:34.722 --> 00:42:35.661
we got to get this guy.
00:42:35.681 --> 00:42:36.623
You know, listen –
00:42:37.454 --> 00:42:38.735
You know, Curtis,
00:42:38.775 --> 00:42:40.436
when you're in practice and
00:42:40.476 --> 00:42:42.679
you see a young guy, you're like, yo, man,
00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:43.599
he should be playing.
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:43.780
Like,
00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:45.340
the older guys whisper to each other.
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.503
Like, I remember texting coaches at Tech,
00:42:49.563 --> 00:42:49.764
like,
00:42:49.844 --> 00:42:51.585
why the hell are you not playing
00:42:51.646 --> 00:42:52.867
Wyatt Teller more?
00:42:53.327 --> 00:42:54.387
Start his ass.
00:42:54.889 --> 00:42:56.210
what are we doing and then I
00:42:56.251 --> 00:42:57.552
got that bs well you know
00:42:57.592 --> 00:42:59.112
the guy runs the senior and
00:42:59.132 --> 00:43:00.713
I'm like man wyatt teller
00:43:00.793 --> 00:43:03.655
is a cyborg he is an animal
00:43:04.277 --> 00:43:05.637
he is he's got that you
00:43:05.677 --> 00:43:08.000
know and look curtis you
00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:08.840
talk to anybody it's not
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:09.701
even a virginia tech thing
00:43:09.740 --> 00:43:10.882
you know when the car comes
00:43:10.961 --> 00:43:12.603
on his visit it's not even
00:43:12.643 --> 00:43:13.824
about the look or the eye
00:43:13.844 --> 00:43:14.824
test you just you
00:43:14.985 --> 00:43:16.465
especially now with with
00:43:16.505 --> 00:43:18.027
these things you see
00:43:18.086 --> 00:43:19.047
twitter you hear about
00:43:19.088 --> 00:43:19.987
people because everybody in
00:43:20.007 --> 00:43:20.989
the locker room is like yo
00:43:21.740 --> 00:43:23.141
Man, I got a cousin in Georgia.
00:43:23.161 --> 00:43:24.282
He's coming up here on a visit.
00:43:24.961 --> 00:43:27.402
He just won the state four by one,
00:43:27.862 --> 00:43:28.983
and he also hooped.
00:43:29.603 --> 00:43:29.762
Like,
00:43:30.083 --> 00:43:31.782
guys knew about Logan Thomas before
00:43:31.802 --> 00:43:32.802
he got to Virginia Tech.
00:43:33.282 --> 00:43:33.443
Like,
00:43:33.503 --> 00:43:35.284
you knew when Logan Thomas walked in.
00:43:35.684 --> 00:43:36.684
You had already heard about
00:43:36.724 --> 00:43:39.284
Logan Thomas because he was killing it.
00:43:39.764 --> 00:43:40.905
A lot of times you hear
00:43:40.925 --> 00:43:42.625
about these guys because
00:43:42.664 --> 00:43:44.085
they're really good guys that,
00:43:44.166 --> 00:43:45.126
especially during Tech's
00:43:45.166 --> 00:43:47.266
heyday and what you see with pride,
00:43:47.746 --> 00:43:48.646
you know about them from
00:43:48.686 --> 00:43:49.646
the state championships.
00:43:50.271 --> 00:43:51.831
I remember seeing Greg Deutsch.
00:43:52.552 --> 00:43:53.693
And I remember when Fuente
00:43:53.733 --> 00:43:54.474
first got to Tech,
00:43:54.514 --> 00:43:56.775
he was at the state semis
00:43:56.835 --> 00:43:57.755
when Lauren Johnson and
00:43:57.775 --> 00:43:59.496
them were hosting Indian River.
00:43:59.516 --> 00:44:00.277
And Indian River had a
00:44:00.317 --> 00:44:01.577
linebacker going to Alabama.
00:44:02.097 --> 00:44:02.757
And then they had another
00:44:02.797 --> 00:44:03.938
linebacker coming to Tech.
00:44:04.398 --> 00:44:05.500
He ended up committing to Tech.
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.420
But Greg Deutsch put on a show.
00:44:07.501 --> 00:44:08.541
And Greg Deutsch said,
00:44:08.702 --> 00:44:10.722
please give me the Tech offer.
00:44:11.143 --> 00:44:13.704
What's crazy about that is in that game,
00:44:13.744 --> 00:44:14.664
you had Greg Deutsch who
00:44:14.684 --> 00:44:15.465
wanted to go to Tech.
00:44:15.865 --> 00:44:17.186
You had Kevon Wallace who
00:44:17.206 --> 00:44:18.266
won three national
00:44:18.286 --> 00:44:19.327
championships at Clemson.
00:44:19.650 --> 00:44:21.130
who wore number 12 because
00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:22.050
of Lauren Johnson,
00:44:22.610 --> 00:44:24.512
and he wanted to come to Tech,
00:44:24.972 --> 00:44:26.313
and we didn't pull the trigger.
00:44:26.773 --> 00:44:28.173
So when you're in high
00:44:28.233 --> 00:44:29.534
school and you're at Tech,
00:44:29.574 --> 00:44:32.376
you know about those dogs in Virginia,
00:44:32.436 --> 00:44:33.335
Maryland, and D.C.
00:44:33.416 --> 00:44:36.297
I remember Josh Morgan talking about guys.
00:44:36.336 --> 00:44:36.978
He's younger than me,
00:44:36.998 --> 00:44:37.858
but I remember you meet
00:44:37.878 --> 00:44:39.639
guys at a spring game,
00:44:40.018 --> 00:44:40.878
and you see the guys with
00:44:40.918 --> 00:44:42.840
those passes on the sideline.
00:44:42.860 --> 00:44:44.440
He was like, yo, see that kid right there?
00:44:44.460 --> 00:44:45.961
I remember Brian Edmonds,
00:44:46.021 --> 00:44:46.862
God rest his soul,
00:44:47.422 --> 00:44:48.804
told me about Macho Harris.
00:44:49.384 --> 00:44:51.125
Macho Harris was at the spring game.
00:44:52.545 --> 00:44:55.248
He said, listen, see that boy right there,
00:44:55.288 --> 00:44:55.947
Macho Harris?
00:44:55.987 --> 00:44:56.708
I said, what's his name?
00:44:56.748 --> 00:44:57.409
He said, Macho.
00:44:57.449 --> 00:44:58.269
I said, what's his real name?
00:44:58.510 --> 00:44:58.989
Macho.
00:44:59.449 --> 00:45:00.170
So that's all.
00:45:00.471 --> 00:45:01.751
So his name,
00:45:01.992 --> 00:45:03.952
that was his nickname because
00:45:03.972 --> 00:45:04.454
he was so good.
00:45:04.534 --> 00:45:05.653
We didn't know his real name.
00:45:05.713 --> 00:45:06.255
He said,
00:45:06.434 --> 00:45:07.614
Brian Edmonds and three other
00:45:07.655 --> 00:45:08.715
dudes from the 804 from the
00:45:08.735 --> 00:45:10.958
Rich Mary said, look, if he come here,
00:45:11.137 --> 00:45:12.117
he's a game changer.
00:45:12.137 --> 00:45:13.679
And so you know about it.
00:45:13.739 --> 00:45:14.760
And look what Macho did.
00:45:15.302 --> 00:45:16.163
One of the few guys that
00:45:16.182 --> 00:45:17.943
play both offense and defense with him.
00:45:18.164 --> 00:45:20.286
So, you know, Curtis, you know,
00:45:20.326 --> 00:45:22.027
you know about those dogs on the way.
00:45:22.188 --> 00:45:23.128
You know, listen,
00:45:23.628 --> 00:45:25.150
you know when you're getting a guy, man.
00:45:25.309 --> 00:45:26.791
Look, I'm going to tell you this.
00:45:26.871 --> 00:45:27.731
I know for a fact.
00:45:28.934 --> 00:45:29.813
Everybody in that locker
00:45:29.833 --> 00:45:30.675
room knew Drone should have
00:45:30.695 --> 00:45:31.396
been on the field earlier
00:45:31.416 --> 00:45:32.016
than when he was.
00:45:32.215 --> 00:45:32.916
Everybody knew.
00:45:32.976 --> 00:45:33.617
Oh, here we go.
00:45:33.637 --> 00:45:34.498
Everybody knew.
00:45:34.717 --> 00:45:35.338
Everybody knew.
00:45:35.579 --> 00:45:36.179
Everybody knew.
00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:37.440
All right.
00:45:38.001 --> 00:45:38.842
I.B., hit him up.
00:45:39.262 --> 00:45:40.222
I.B., we already there.
00:45:40.262 --> 00:45:40.882
Let's go ahead and talk
00:45:40.902 --> 00:45:41.523
about 2023 a little bit.
00:45:43.101 --> 00:45:44.621
um I mean I know I know you
00:45:44.681 --> 00:45:45.842
know that we were on record
00:45:45.902 --> 00:45:46.702
after the spring game
00:45:46.742 --> 00:45:48.224
saying start the man
00:45:49.164 --> 00:45:50.344
everybody on this podcast
00:45:50.364 --> 00:45:53.766
said it yeah yeah so I mean
00:45:53.786 --> 00:45:55.407
you know let's talk about
00:45:55.427 --> 00:45:56.708
that a little bit you know
00:45:56.728 --> 00:45:58.070
you get off to a slow start
00:45:58.130 --> 00:45:59.990
you know you you you start
00:46:00.251 --> 00:46:01.231
one quarterback you're
00:46:01.251 --> 00:46:03.213
working another one in um
00:46:05.494 --> 00:46:06.315
how do you think in the
00:46:06.375 --> 00:46:07.514
locker room this played out
00:46:07.554 --> 00:46:08.615
and you know no one really
00:46:08.655 --> 00:46:09.655
hitting the panic button
00:46:10.036 --> 00:46:11.237
that early after a rough
00:46:11.336 --> 00:46:11.978
one and three start
00:46:13.496 --> 00:46:14.177
Hold on, Dwight,
00:46:14.217 --> 00:46:15.257
before you even answer that.
00:46:15.297 --> 00:46:16.277
Before you even answer that.
00:46:16.998 --> 00:46:18.898
We got to go back to 2022.
00:46:20.898 --> 00:46:23.440
When we talk about the Twitter space,
00:46:23.539 --> 00:46:25.059
when everybody was going to
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:26.260
jump into the Lake of Fire
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:27.681
and you had to talk
00:46:27.721 --> 00:46:30.021
everybody off the ledge with LJ.
00:46:30.581 --> 00:46:32.481
When we went down there and lost the ODU,
00:46:32.621 --> 00:46:33.521
got our ass beat.
00:46:33.942 --> 00:46:34.961
They stole our stuff.
00:46:35.041 --> 00:46:36.762
We got trapped in the elevator.
00:46:37.443 --> 00:46:38.603
It was just a bad night.
00:46:38.842 --> 00:46:40.143
You had people following you
00:46:40.164 --> 00:46:41.284
to your car talking junk.
00:46:42.273 --> 00:46:43.554
All of that stuff went down.
00:46:43.594 --> 00:46:45.594
You talked us off the ledge in 2022.
00:46:46.135 --> 00:46:47.896
Now, we're going to go to 2023.
00:46:48.396 --> 00:46:48.615
Yep.
00:46:48.876 --> 00:46:49.996
You know, we know what happened in 2022.
00:46:50.077 --> 00:46:51.257
We're in 2023.
00:46:51.318 --> 00:46:52.998
What did we start, B?
00:46:53.318 --> 00:46:53.838
One and three?
00:46:54.438 --> 00:46:55.099
One and three.
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:56.621
Okay, we're one and three.
00:46:57.721 --> 00:46:59.942
Now, you take us to what Big Vic?
00:47:00.001 --> 00:47:00.503
What Dwight?
00:47:00.583 --> 00:47:00.822
Well,
00:47:00.983 --> 00:47:02.443
I was checking in with people that I
00:47:02.483 --> 00:47:03.443
could check in with, too,
00:47:03.543 --> 00:47:04.525
and the word on the street
00:47:05.105 --> 00:47:06.726
was that it was time to see
00:47:06.746 --> 00:47:09.487
Drones take over as the quarterback.
00:47:09.626 --> 00:47:10.748
And the truth of the matter is,
00:47:14.161 --> 00:47:15.282
I had the mindset of I'm
00:47:15.302 --> 00:47:16.264
going to trust Pryor until
00:47:16.284 --> 00:47:17.146
the wheels fall off.
00:47:17.726 --> 00:47:18.708
I still trust Pryor,
00:47:18.748 --> 00:47:19.449
but I think it's one of
00:47:19.469 --> 00:47:21.411
those things where Brent Pryor,
00:47:21.431 --> 00:47:22.333
he's been on your show.
00:47:23.375 --> 00:47:24.115
He's one of those guys that
00:47:24.155 --> 00:47:25.518
takes ownership of his success,
00:47:25.557 --> 00:47:26.719
but also of his mistakes
00:47:26.778 --> 00:47:27.760
and missed apps or misses.
00:47:28.452 --> 00:47:30.715
And I knew he was going to get it right.
00:47:30.914 --> 00:47:32.615
I think drones came in.
00:47:32.735 --> 00:47:33.097
And, Tyler,
00:47:33.117 --> 00:47:34.597
you talked about this on this
00:47:34.637 --> 00:47:36.338
pod with you guys and in
00:47:36.378 --> 00:47:38.460
the Twitter space is that, you know,
00:47:38.541 --> 00:47:39.842
he came in even in that
00:47:39.882 --> 00:47:40.842
game against Purdue and
00:47:40.902 --> 00:47:41.844
showed us that he had the
00:47:41.903 --> 00:47:43.164
moxie and the right attitude.
00:47:43.844 --> 00:47:45.407
I think sometimes you have
00:47:45.447 --> 00:47:46.327
to figure things out.
00:47:46.367 --> 00:47:50.409
But I do remember when Tyrod
00:47:50.449 --> 00:47:52.692
got there and Tyrod was a five-star.
00:47:53.413 --> 00:47:54.574
One of the few five-stars
00:47:54.614 --> 00:47:55.454
Tech has gotten along with
00:47:55.494 --> 00:47:56.135
the Fuller brothers.
00:47:56.985 --> 00:47:58.387
And Sean Glennon was a damn
00:47:58.407 --> 00:47:59.068
good quarterback.
00:47:59.108 --> 00:48:00.608
He won an ACC championship,
00:48:01.048 --> 00:48:02.030
and he won us some games.
00:48:02.070 --> 00:48:04.251
But everybody knew Tyrod
00:48:04.492 --> 00:48:05.913
Taylor was that dude.
00:48:06.172 --> 00:48:08.695
And I remember when we played LSU,
00:48:09.675 --> 00:48:11.617
the LSU players, Dorsey and those guys,
00:48:11.657 --> 00:48:12.438
they went on and went to
00:48:12.458 --> 00:48:13.478
the national championship.
00:48:13.898 --> 00:48:14.900
We had a chance that year to
00:48:14.940 --> 00:48:15.880
back into it because we
00:48:15.900 --> 00:48:18.161
finished third in the BCS that year.
00:48:18.202 --> 00:48:19.342
But LSU ended up winning the
00:48:19.362 --> 00:48:20.603
first time in that
00:48:20.664 --> 00:48:22.425
timeframe era where
00:48:22.485 --> 00:48:23.525
national championship won
00:48:23.545 --> 00:48:24.706
the championship with two losses.
00:48:25.532 --> 00:48:27.293
But they said the game
00:48:27.353 --> 00:48:28.994
changed when Tyrod came in.
00:48:29.373 --> 00:48:31.275
Tyrod gave us our only score that night.
00:48:31.295 --> 00:48:33.597
We lost 44-7 at LSU.
00:48:34.436 --> 00:48:35.617
And the truth of the matter is,
00:48:35.697 --> 00:48:37.119
is that drones is cut from
00:48:37.139 --> 00:48:37.960
that same cloth.
00:48:38.579 --> 00:48:40.501
I think it was evident when he came in.
00:48:40.541 --> 00:48:41.702
It was just an energy,
00:48:41.822 --> 00:48:42.882
and he had an attitude.
00:48:43.443 --> 00:48:44.744
You saw him, and Tyler,
00:48:44.764 --> 00:48:46.505
you talked about this, and Curtis and V,
00:48:46.525 --> 00:48:47.284
you talked about it,
00:48:47.344 --> 00:48:48.766
how against Pittsburgh,
00:48:48.786 --> 00:48:49.585
he was running up on
00:48:49.626 --> 00:48:52.007
linebackers and DBs and grilling them and
00:48:52.556 --> 00:48:52.777
You know,
00:48:52.797 --> 00:48:54.739
he slammed that D tackle from Wake Forest,
00:48:54.778 --> 00:48:55.858
and it was like, damn,
00:48:56.340 --> 00:48:57.400
he about that life.
00:48:58.300 --> 00:49:00.483
And to me, he's marketable.
00:49:01.304 --> 00:49:02.103
I have him right now.
00:49:02.123 --> 00:49:03.204
I'll say it again on your show.
00:49:04.085 --> 00:49:05.106
I have him as a dark horse
00:49:05.126 --> 00:49:06.186
for a Heisman candidate.
00:49:06.807 --> 00:49:08.009
I think with everybody coming back,
00:49:08.068 --> 00:49:09.009
if the offense and Tyler
00:49:09.028 --> 00:49:10.309
Bowen does what I know he's going to do,
00:49:10.891 --> 00:49:11.530
it's going to get real
00:49:11.550 --> 00:49:12.472
spooky in Blacksburg.
00:49:12.492 --> 00:49:13.192
Turn loose.
00:49:13.672 --> 00:49:14.492
I felt this way.
00:49:14.512 --> 00:49:15.193
Turn loose.
00:49:15.673 --> 00:49:16.414
He got in the rhythm.
00:49:17.494 --> 00:49:22.275
I'm going to tell you all this too, man.
00:49:22.295 --> 00:49:23.956
I ain't nobody special, but like I said,
00:49:24.016 --> 00:49:25.235
Dwight is my uncle, man.
00:49:25.835 --> 00:49:29.737
I'm an honorary Vic family member,
00:49:29.777 --> 00:49:30.637
if y'all didn't know that.
00:49:31.056 --> 00:49:31.717
So me and Dwight,
00:49:31.757 --> 00:49:32.838
we talk a little bit more
00:49:32.858 --> 00:49:34.257
than maybe some of y'all.
00:49:34.297 --> 00:49:35.599
Y'all need to get on my level.
00:49:35.778 --> 00:49:36.438
You know what I'm saying?
00:49:36.498 --> 00:49:37.099
I'm sorry.
00:49:37.398 --> 00:49:38.119
No, but for real,
00:49:38.358 --> 00:49:40.000
Dwight will hit me up on
00:49:40.019 --> 00:49:41.420
some stuff that I'm not
00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:42.480
even paying to because I'm
00:49:42.500 --> 00:49:44.081
emotional about a game or something.
00:49:44.101 --> 00:49:45.340
And Dwight says something.
00:49:46.016 --> 00:49:46.815
I'm gonna air it out.
00:49:47.197 --> 00:49:48.297
So y'all getting some
00:49:48.336 --> 00:49:49.938
nuggets that y'all might not know.
00:49:50.217 --> 00:49:51.759
Dwight told me last year,
00:49:52.139 --> 00:49:55.981
whenever Kyron started playing,
00:49:56.101 --> 00:49:57.121
he wasn't starting really.
00:49:57.922 --> 00:49:59.242
He was playing and we kept
00:49:59.282 --> 00:50:00.342
doing that teetering thing
00:50:00.402 --> 00:50:02.224
where we didn't know if
00:50:02.284 --> 00:50:03.684
Grant was coming back or
00:50:03.724 --> 00:50:04.644
Kyron was playing.
00:50:04.985 --> 00:50:06.346
And Dwight text me and said,
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.342
I'm looking at this young
00:50:09.382 --> 00:50:12.764
man while he's after a game or something.
00:50:13.186 --> 00:50:15.306
He said, if they start endorsing him,
00:50:15.807 --> 00:50:16.809
he is a star.
00:50:18.489 --> 00:50:19.110
That's what he said.
00:50:19.170 --> 00:50:19.510
He's like,
00:50:19.911 --> 00:50:21.512
once they come out and say he's
00:50:21.612 --> 00:50:22.713
our starting quarterback,
00:50:23.074 --> 00:50:23.773
you're going to see a
00:50:23.833 --> 00:50:25.054
change in this young man.
00:50:25.496 --> 00:50:26.436
Not just his play,
00:50:26.476 --> 00:50:28.797
but everything about him.
00:50:28.878 --> 00:50:29.498
When they started,
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:30.900
I think Pryor finally came
00:50:30.980 --> 00:50:32.460
out and said he's the
00:50:32.481 --> 00:50:33.621
quarterback moving forward.
00:50:34.262 --> 00:50:34.682
It was like,
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.119
The light switch hit.
00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:38.081
You know what I'm saying?
00:50:38.362 --> 00:50:39.643
Kyron was already playing.
00:50:39.682 --> 00:50:41.065
He was already doing the stuff he could do,
00:50:41.144 --> 00:50:43.067
but you could see the confidence come.
00:50:43.106 --> 00:50:44.728
You could see the play calls come for him.
00:50:45.088 --> 00:50:46.851
You could see the media
00:50:46.891 --> 00:50:48.552
start gravitating toward him.
00:50:48.974 --> 00:50:49.614
You could see him,
00:50:49.634 --> 00:50:52.237
those 50-50 balls start going our way.
00:50:52.597 --> 00:50:53.778
So I don't know, man.
00:50:53.798 --> 00:50:56.442
Dwight might be, what was the lady named?
00:50:56.461 --> 00:50:56.983
Yeah.
00:50:57.563 --> 00:50:59.204
The old fortune teller that
00:50:59.284 --> 00:51:01.364
everybody is talking about.
00:51:01.545 --> 00:51:02.065
Miss Cleo.
00:51:02.105 --> 00:51:02.706
Miss Cleo.
00:51:02.806 --> 00:51:03.045
Miss Cleo.
00:51:03.065 --> 00:51:04.646
He might be kidding to Miss Cleo,
00:51:04.686 --> 00:51:04.987
you know?
00:51:05.467 --> 00:51:07.208
Hey, I have a good track record.
00:51:07.248 --> 00:51:08.668
I always tweet it every now and then.
00:51:08.688 --> 00:51:09.728
I don't miss when it comes
00:51:09.768 --> 00:51:10.628
to stuff I call.
00:51:11.009 --> 00:51:12.150
I called it with Greg Stroman.
00:51:12.170 --> 00:51:13.190
I called it with Eddie Royal.
00:51:13.269 --> 00:51:14.371
I said it about Mike Vick.
00:51:14.811 --> 00:51:15.672
Everything I said about my
00:51:15.711 --> 00:51:17.112
cousin Mike came to fruition.
00:51:17.813 --> 00:51:19.914
I feel so confident about drones.
00:51:19.954 --> 00:51:20.653
And here's the deal.
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:24.202
Yeah, he is special.
00:51:24.621 --> 00:51:25.342
I'm not going to get all
00:51:25.422 --> 00:51:27.463
euphoric and talk about all-time greats,
00:51:27.503 --> 00:51:27.842
whatever,
00:51:28.222 --> 00:51:30.204
but he is just that missing piece.
00:51:30.284 --> 00:51:31.085
And going back to your
00:51:31.144 --> 00:51:34.065
question you guys asked me about, like,
00:51:34.385 --> 00:51:35.987
you know, do guys know, whatever,
00:51:36.547 --> 00:51:38.007
even though these guys are young men,
00:51:38.068 --> 00:51:39.228
they're still young adults.
00:51:39.407 --> 00:51:41.128
And what I mean is in high
00:51:41.168 --> 00:51:42.068
school you kind of do what
00:51:42.108 --> 00:51:43.730
the coach tells you, but you kind of know,
00:51:44.409 --> 00:51:45.871
man, you know, coach is tripping.
00:51:45.911 --> 00:51:47.090
You know, he's a better guy.
00:51:47.130 --> 00:51:47.992
You see it in shit like
00:51:48.032 --> 00:51:49.291
movies like Varsity Blues
00:51:49.753 --> 00:51:50.753
when they're like, yo, man.
00:51:51.331 --> 00:51:52.190
Kilmore's tripping.
00:51:52.231 --> 00:51:52.931
You know what I'm saying?
00:51:52.952 --> 00:51:55.213
But when they get to Tech or
00:51:55.233 --> 00:51:56.813
whatever college, they're young adults.
00:51:56.914 --> 00:51:57.514
And they know.
00:51:57.614 --> 00:51:58.434
They're young men.
00:51:59.034 --> 00:52:01.275
And now with COVID and NIL
00:52:01.315 --> 00:52:02.536
and guys staying five, six,
00:52:02.556 --> 00:52:03.336
seven years now,
00:52:03.436 --> 00:52:05.077
they're really young men.
00:52:05.117 --> 00:52:06.719
They're in their 20s.
00:52:08.523 --> 00:52:09.304
Everybody knew.
00:52:09.583 --> 00:52:10.224
They whispered.
00:52:10.244 --> 00:52:10.606
They knew.
00:52:10.666 --> 00:52:11.106
And again,
00:52:11.586 --> 00:52:12.728
ain't nothing against old boy
00:52:12.748 --> 00:52:13.588
that he replaced.
00:52:13.648 --> 00:52:14.849
It's just more so like he
00:52:14.989 --> 00:52:17.393
fits better what we did.
00:52:17.492 --> 00:52:19.114
And Tyler Boyne, I think we forget.
00:52:19.135 --> 00:52:20.036
We got to give him credit.
00:52:20.076 --> 00:52:21.197
He went and got him.
00:52:22.211 --> 00:52:24.393
He went, he knew what he wanted.
00:52:24.454 --> 00:52:26.054
So, yeah, man,
00:52:27.795 --> 00:52:29.717
I am so excited now doing this podcast.
00:52:29.777 --> 00:52:31.038
I kind of been in basketball mode.
00:52:31.518 --> 00:52:33.659
I am so excited about the fall.
00:52:33.980 --> 00:52:34.661
Well,
00:52:34.681 --> 00:52:35.760
we finna get you a little bit more
00:52:35.780 --> 00:52:36.581
excited because I know we
00:52:36.601 --> 00:52:38.563
ain't got you much longer here,
00:52:38.603 --> 00:52:40.264
but I do got to go to the
00:52:40.264 --> 00:52:42.666
2024 season right quick and ask you,
00:52:43.126 --> 00:52:44.327
you know, a couple of things.
00:52:44.387 --> 00:52:45.467
But what I'm going to start with,
00:52:45.487 --> 00:52:45.987
I'm going to go a little
00:52:46.007 --> 00:52:46.469
bit out of order.
00:52:46.829 --> 00:52:47.829
I'm just going to start with
00:52:48.170 --> 00:52:49.530
you looked at the schedule.
00:52:50.552 --> 00:52:51.494
You've seen the schedule.
00:52:51.893 --> 00:52:53.516
There are some good games on the schedule.
00:52:53.958 --> 00:52:54.639
But, you know,
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:55.961
you being a big football guy,
00:52:56.001 --> 00:52:57.585
you being a big Virginia Tech guy,
00:52:57.804 --> 00:52:59.168
you being a big pride guy,
00:53:00.264 --> 00:53:02.505
What game or a couple of
00:53:02.545 --> 00:53:04.646
games does Pryor really
00:53:04.686 --> 00:53:07.186
need to dig into to win to
00:53:07.728 --> 00:53:09.027
solidify his legacy?
00:53:09.748 --> 00:53:10.429
Great question.
00:53:10.869 --> 00:53:11.969
What you're saying is he
00:53:12.009 --> 00:53:14.130
needs that signature win that Beamer got.
00:53:14.150 --> 00:53:15.530
Signature win.
00:53:15.610 --> 00:53:17.251
No, no, no, no.
00:53:17.731 --> 00:53:19.231
He needs that signature win.
00:53:19.952 --> 00:53:21.512
And the fact of the matter
00:53:21.632 --> 00:53:23.713
is that – Can I say something, Dwight?
00:53:24.132 --> 00:53:25.014
Can I say something real quick?
00:53:25.094 --> 00:53:25.753
Dwight, Dwight, Dwight.
00:53:26.653 --> 00:53:28.235
What's going to be his 1995 Miami game?
00:53:33.204 --> 00:53:34.963
Damn.
00:53:35.164 --> 00:53:36.565
Which one could it be this year?
00:53:36.605 --> 00:53:37.826
We got Clemson at home.
00:53:37.865 --> 00:53:39.385
We got Miami at their place.
00:53:39.927 --> 00:53:42.088
We got – who else we got?
00:53:42.108 --> 00:53:43.208
Let me pull it up right quick.
00:53:43.728 --> 00:53:44.528
We got Vanderbilt.
00:53:44.588 --> 00:53:45.349
I know these – I'm just
00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:46.449
calling games that we got.
00:53:46.849 --> 00:53:48.369
We got Vanderbilt at their place.
00:53:49.371 --> 00:53:50.851
We got Miami at their place.
00:53:51.552 --> 00:53:53.152
We got Clemson at home.
00:53:55.333 --> 00:53:56.753
We got ODU at their place.
00:53:59.016 --> 00:54:00.637
Okay, so I think,
00:54:00.838 --> 00:54:01.898
and this is a great question.
00:54:01.938 --> 00:54:02.599
I actually looked at the
00:54:02.619 --> 00:54:03.260
schedule and I thought
00:54:03.300 --> 00:54:04.661
about this because I'm a
00:54:04.740 --> 00:54:06.222
visionary and I always do
00:54:06.262 --> 00:54:07.543
that manifestation stuff.
00:54:07.643 --> 00:54:08.704
I've always done it.
00:54:09.125 --> 00:54:10.445
My son does the same thing too.
00:54:10.746 --> 00:54:12.068
It's a technique we both do.
00:54:12.887 --> 00:54:14.349
It works if you really believe in it.
00:54:14.590 --> 00:54:15.490
I, I, I, I,
00:54:16.407 --> 00:54:17.367
I really feel like there are
00:54:17.407 --> 00:54:18.588
two games that stand out.
00:54:19.009 --> 00:54:20.230
And it's been like that
00:54:20.250 --> 00:54:21.170
since I saw the schedule
00:54:21.190 --> 00:54:22.851
released a few months ago.
00:54:23.331 --> 00:54:24.431
And the truth of the matter is,
00:54:24.512 --> 00:54:25.851
is that some of it's going
00:54:25.871 --> 00:54:27.052
to take shape based on
00:54:27.492 --> 00:54:28.793
who's ranked and where we
00:54:28.934 --> 00:54:30.833
are as far as standings in ACC.
00:54:31.494 --> 00:54:33.094
But the two games that stand
00:54:33.155 --> 00:54:35.175
out to me are Clemson and Miami.
00:54:35.797 --> 00:54:37.036
Because Clemson at home,
00:54:37.117 --> 00:54:38.038
if it's a night game or
00:54:38.057 --> 00:54:39.338
even a 3.30 kickoff when
00:54:39.358 --> 00:54:40.038
they come out of the locker
00:54:40.057 --> 00:54:41.278
room at halftime, it'll be dark.
00:54:42.340 --> 00:54:45.304
A Clemson game at home, because Clemson,
00:54:45.364 --> 00:54:46.646
despite some of their
00:54:46.686 --> 00:54:48.106
stepbacks in recent years,
00:54:48.688 --> 00:54:49.528
they're still considered
00:54:49.548 --> 00:54:50.650
the classic college football,
00:54:50.670 --> 00:54:53.532
along with Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan,
00:54:53.873 --> 00:54:55.675
and Alabama and those guys, right?
00:54:56.655 --> 00:54:58.677
And Dabo, if you remember,
00:54:58.697 --> 00:54:59.759
I know you three remember,
00:54:59.778 --> 00:55:01.260
you guys are historians like me.
00:55:02.077 --> 00:55:03.056
He took the torch.
00:55:03.177 --> 00:55:04.217
He took the torch.
00:55:04.297 --> 00:55:05.318
I was there in the stadium
00:55:05.378 --> 00:55:07.137
in Charlotte from Beamer
00:55:07.318 --> 00:55:08.938
and Foster in 2011.
00:55:08.938 --> 00:55:10.018
We were going for
00:55:10.059 --> 00:55:11.840
back-to-back ACC championships.
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:13.239
They stubbed their toe
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:14.320
coming into the conference
00:55:14.340 --> 00:55:15.260
championship game.
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.121
We were 10-1 after smashing
00:55:18.222 --> 00:55:19.322
UVA when David Wilson and
00:55:19.342 --> 00:55:20.561
Logan Thomas went crazy.
00:55:21.081 --> 00:55:22.963
They beat us 30-something.
00:55:23.003 --> 00:55:24.023
Like, it was a blowout.
00:55:24.922 --> 00:55:26.583
And they never looked back.
00:55:26.643 --> 00:55:27.764
They did get boat raced by
00:55:27.804 --> 00:55:29.003
West Virginia in the Orange Bowl,
00:55:29.023 --> 00:55:29.905
but they never looked back.
00:55:29.965 --> 00:55:30.565
They became...
00:55:31.456 --> 00:55:33.117
the team in ACC and we
00:55:33.137 --> 00:55:35.639
became a shell of ourselves, you know,
00:55:35.699 --> 00:55:36.978
teetering around seven and six,
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.420
six and six, six and seven.
00:55:38.900 --> 00:55:39.760
It was tough to watch.
00:55:42.461 --> 00:55:43.481
I think our game against
00:55:43.541 --> 00:55:44.501
Clemson is going to be a
00:55:44.681 --> 00:55:46.063
huge opportunity because
00:55:46.103 --> 00:55:47.764
Virginia Tech fans say
00:55:47.804 --> 00:55:49.804
we're like six and two or seven and two.
00:55:49.824 --> 00:55:50.585
I don't have the schedule in
00:55:50.605 --> 00:55:51.744
front of me going into that game.
00:55:52.246 --> 00:55:54.686
Or we're like ranked 24 or
00:55:54.746 --> 00:55:55.547
right there where we're
00:55:55.567 --> 00:55:57.407
still in the contention for the ACC.
00:55:58.228 --> 00:56:00.268
Blacksburg, the fans, the town,
00:56:01.021 --> 00:56:02.842
The podcast like yours and mine,
00:56:03.342 --> 00:56:04.282
we're going to do our part.
00:56:04.521 --> 00:56:05.621
The buildup will be there.
00:56:06.282 --> 00:56:07.202
The one thing I said about
00:56:07.242 --> 00:56:08.422
Virginia tech last year,
00:56:08.583 --> 00:56:09.704
which they did a better job
00:56:09.744 --> 00:56:11.443
late in the season was they
00:56:11.503 --> 00:56:12.945
have to learn how to win
00:56:13.284 --> 00:56:14.264
and they have to learn how
00:56:14.284 --> 00:56:16.806
to handle success until they do that.
00:56:17.146 --> 00:56:18.425
They're going to continue to under,
00:56:18.505 --> 00:56:19.086
under achieve.
00:56:19.286 --> 00:56:20.266
And they started to learn
00:56:20.306 --> 00:56:21.306
how to handle success.
00:56:22.086 --> 00:56:23.007
One of the games I remember
00:56:23.047 --> 00:56:24.367
was going down to Boston college.
00:56:24.387 --> 00:56:25.849
They beat the brakes off BC.
00:56:26.248 --> 00:56:27.648
BC was a seven win team.
00:56:27.668 --> 00:56:29.449
When they did that, they destroyed them.
00:56:29.909 --> 00:56:30.170
Okay.
00:56:30.733 --> 00:56:32.695
They went to UVA, a nefarious opponent,
00:56:32.735 --> 00:56:33.835
and a rivalry game,
00:56:34.317 --> 00:56:36.077
set a record for points,
00:56:36.597 --> 00:56:38.159
and they destroyed UVA.
00:56:38.500 --> 00:56:39.521
That's never going to be a
00:56:39.581 --> 00:56:41.601
game outsiders are going to be like, oh,
00:56:41.621 --> 00:56:42.081
my God.
00:56:42.123 --> 00:56:43.402
But we know what that game
00:56:43.463 --> 00:56:44.925
means for the state of Virginia.
00:56:45.364 --> 00:56:46.985
And Pryor understood the meaning of it,
00:56:47.065 --> 00:56:48.967
even coming back that next day, trolling,
00:56:49.347 --> 00:56:50.588
holding a trophy and a
00:56:50.648 --> 00:56:52.070
picture of it in the office.
00:56:52.699 --> 00:56:53.920
So with that being said, man,
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:55.260
Clemson is the game for me
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:57.461
because Clemson is still
00:56:57.541 --> 00:56:58.802
considered the class of the
00:56:58.822 --> 00:57:00.543
ACC and beyond.
00:57:01.143 --> 00:57:03.224
And you will turn some heads if you,
00:57:03.686 --> 00:57:06.086
I don't mean just win, like, you know,
00:57:06.606 --> 00:57:07.768
for the win and the field
00:57:07.807 --> 00:57:08.389
goal and we went 21-20.
00:57:08.489 --> 00:57:08.889
No,
00:57:09.188 --> 00:57:12.010
I mean like how we did against Miami
00:57:12.050 --> 00:57:13.331
when Ja'Cory Harris came in
00:57:13.391 --> 00:57:14.211
ranked ninth and we were
00:57:14.231 --> 00:57:15.532
ranked 11th and Tyrod and
00:57:15.552 --> 00:57:17.474
Jerry Boykin and Ryan Williams got this.
00:57:18.134 --> 00:57:19.315
Yeah, that's what you need.
00:57:19.474 --> 00:57:20.576
You need to win those games.
00:57:21.217 --> 00:57:22.617
And I think the Miami game
00:57:22.697 --> 00:57:24.039
is one because no matter,
00:57:24.378 --> 00:57:26.579
even though I troll Miami, I clown them,
00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.679
and they've got one bowl game winning 12,
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:30.019
13 years.
00:57:30.059 --> 00:57:31.300
They've never won the ACC
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:32.619
outright or even they've
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:33.639
only won a coastal one.
00:57:33.659 --> 00:57:34.940
We had divisions one time.
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:36.221
They're still Miami.
00:57:36.260 --> 00:57:37.181
They still have a name.
00:57:37.740 --> 00:57:42.161
And for me, you beat Miami at Miami,
00:57:42.222 --> 00:57:42.481
right?
00:57:43.001 --> 00:57:43.501
Yep.
00:57:44.101 --> 00:57:45.342
On a Friday night.
00:57:45.882 --> 00:57:47.663
Yeah, see, you beat Miami at Miami.
00:57:49.090 --> 00:57:50.371
Even if they're not the
00:57:50.411 --> 00:57:51.833
Miami during my time,
00:57:51.873 --> 00:57:52.833
they're still Miami.
00:57:53.514 --> 00:57:54.534
Those are two wins.
00:57:54.574 --> 00:57:57.396
But again, just to bring it full circle,
00:57:58.317 --> 00:58:00.057
signature wins sometimes
00:58:00.117 --> 00:58:01.358
happen in bowl games.
00:58:01.998 --> 00:58:03.360
They happen against a team
00:58:03.420 --> 00:58:05.320
that you may not think.
00:58:05.380 --> 00:58:06.481
Like in 95,
00:58:06.481 --> 00:58:08.103
we knew UVA was going to be good.
00:58:08.163 --> 00:58:09.483
We were in two different conferences.
00:58:10.063 --> 00:58:12.626
It was probably one of the
00:58:12.666 --> 00:58:13.586
better rivalries in the
00:58:13.646 --> 00:58:14.547
nation at the time.
00:58:14.706 --> 00:58:15.688
It's not now, but
00:58:16.516 --> 00:58:17.096
We didn't know they were
00:58:17.115 --> 00:58:17.876
going to be Florida State
00:58:17.896 --> 00:58:18.856
for the first time in history.
00:58:18.876 --> 00:58:19.496
We didn't know that they
00:58:19.516 --> 00:58:21.277
were going to be the best
00:58:21.318 --> 00:58:23.199
team in the ACC along with Florida State.
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:24.318
And we didn't know we were
00:58:24.338 --> 00:58:26.019
going to be a top 10 team
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.639
in the nation because we
00:58:26.659 --> 00:58:27.860
started off 0-2 that year.
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:29.260
So that's the beauty of
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:30.280
college football is the
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:31.262
element of surprise.
00:58:31.282 --> 00:58:32.822
So as much as I want to say
00:58:32.862 --> 00:58:34.882
Clemson and Miami, we just don't know.
00:58:34.963 --> 00:58:36.182
A signature win sometimes
00:58:36.222 --> 00:58:37.824
happens in a bowl game,
00:58:37.844 --> 00:58:38.903
like I said a few minutes ago,
00:58:38.923 --> 00:58:42.226
or it happens when you play
00:58:42.266 --> 00:58:45.206
a team that is having a historic run.
00:58:46.027 --> 00:58:47.867
You know, you didn't realize that,
00:58:47.927 --> 00:58:51.090
but beat Miami on a Friday night.
00:58:52.010 --> 00:58:53.532
I know high school football is still big,
00:58:53.552 --> 00:58:55.373
you know, across the country,
00:58:55.413 --> 00:58:57.233
but that'll be a game.
00:58:57.313 --> 00:59:00.755
You win in Miami, win the game on the road,
00:59:01.376 --> 00:59:01.637
you know,
00:59:01.657 --> 00:59:03.117
seeing proud walk to the locker room,
00:59:03.157 --> 00:59:04.018
holding up his fist and
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:05.079
waving to the tech fans
00:59:05.099 --> 00:59:05.940
that are going to be there.
00:59:06.715 --> 00:59:07.797
And then everybody jumping
00:59:07.836 --> 00:59:08.777
up and down and drones
00:59:08.817 --> 00:59:10.338
walking off with his helmet in his hand,
00:59:10.378 --> 00:59:12.699
looking, smiling with that smile he got.
00:59:13.820 --> 00:59:15.521
Then you come back a few weeks later,
00:59:15.561 --> 00:59:17.581
you beat Clemson to secure
00:59:17.601 --> 00:59:20.143
a spot in the ACC championship game.
00:59:21.885 --> 00:59:23.244
Or it might be a situation
00:59:23.284 --> 00:59:24.485
where you win the ACC.
00:59:25.706 --> 00:59:26.927
If you F around and win the
00:59:26.947 --> 00:59:29.349
ACC in your third year,
00:59:29.369 --> 00:59:31.329
not only is it a future win,
00:59:31.992 --> 00:59:33.592
Now you put everybody on
00:59:33.652 --> 00:59:34.454
notice because even though
00:59:34.474 --> 00:59:36.534
the ACC is suing itself and
00:59:36.554 --> 00:59:37.275
you got all this stuff
00:59:37.315 --> 00:59:38.876
about rumors or whatever,
00:59:39.536 --> 00:59:40.737
it's still a credible conference.
00:59:40.757 --> 00:59:42.077
It's still a Power 5 conference,
00:59:42.137 --> 00:59:43.599
and it's still a conference championship.
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:45.800
I don't give a damn if it's the 70s, 80s,
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.902
or right now a conference championship.
00:59:48.242 --> 00:59:49.963
It's still an automatic big conference.
00:59:50.003 --> 00:59:52.784
You win the ACC, man.
00:59:52.844 --> 00:59:53.565
It's playoff time.
00:59:53.585 --> 00:59:54.525
Playoff time, baby.
00:59:55.266 --> 00:59:56.487
But this is what I'm going to say.
00:59:56.646 --> 00:59:57.206
This is what I'm going to
00:59:57.226 --> 00:59:58.228
say to go along with it.
00:59:58.248 --> 00:59:59.889
Real quick, real quick, real quick, Tyler.
01:00:00.753 --> 01:00:02.375
The thing about it is that I
01:00:02.394 --> 01:00:03.755
know I love how Don V said,
01:00:03.775 --> 01:00:04.637
what we lying about today
01:00:04.677 --> 01:00:05.458
and we telling lies.
01:00:05.518 --> 01:00:07.458
I'm not even on some euphoric shit.
01:00:07.478 --> 01:00:09.440
I'm not even on some, oh, yeah.
01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:09.981
You know,
01:00:10.001 --> 01:00:11.141
because you guys know I'm pretty
01:00:11.181 --> 01:00:11.543
rational.
01:00:11.563 --> 01:00:12.523
I'm the voice of reason.
01:00:13.043 --> 01:00:13.724
But the one thing I know
01:00:13.764 --> 01:00:16.146
about these kids now is the
01:00:16.186 --> 01:00:19.329
kids in that locker room, they believe.
01:00:19.349 --> 01:00:21.170
They believe.
01:00:21.451 --> 01:00:21.670
Like,
01:00:22.570 --> 01:00:24.773
you had everybody back for the bowl game.
01:00:25.434 --> 01:00:27.554
Ain't been but a few guys in the portal,
01:00:27.574 --> 01:00:28.655
and those guys should have left.
01:00:28.695 --> 01:00:29.416
They need to leave.
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:31.860
Man, drones and them believe, man.
01:00:31.981 --> 01:00:33.400
I'm telling you, I've been a player.
01:00:33.922 --> 01:00:35.422
I know what it's like when you believe.
01:00:35.802 --> 01:00:37.722
My son, I talk to him.
01:00:38.483 --> 01:00:39.063
It's something about
01:00:39.103 --> 01:00:40.023
watching a young man or
01:00:40.063 --> 01:00:41.324
young woman when they play sports,
01:00:41.364 --> 01:00:41.744
they believe.
01:00:41.784 --> 01:00:42.525
You see it with South
01:00:42.545 --> 01:00:43.724
Carolina and Don Staley.
01:00:44.164 --> 01:00:45.706
You see it when championship
01:00:45.746 --> 01:00:47.007
mindsets take over.
01:00:47.567 --> 01:00:48.467
They believe.
01:00:48.507 --> 01:00:50.527
When I was at Tech, it's so crazy, guys.
01:00:51.211 --> 01:00:53.193
because we won 90% of our games.
01:00:53.213 --> 01:00:54.193
The many times we believe,
01:00:54.213 --> 01:00:56.956
even if we were down 14, we believe, man.
01:00:57.617 --> 01:00:59.619
And I just feel like these guys believe,
01:00:59.659 --> 01:00:59.938
man.
01:01:00.018 --> 01:01:00.179
Like,
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:02.501
they don't even look at Tech like on some,
01:01:03.061 --> 01:01:04.503
you know, we hope we win or whatever.
01:01:04.543 --> 01:01:05.284
Now, last year,
01:01:05.664 --> 01:01:06.965
there were some tough moments, you know,
01:01:06.985 --> 01:01:08.365
growing things against Louisville.
01:01:08.826 --> 01:01:09.827
That was tough to watch.
01:01:10.228 --> 01:01:10.827
Florida State,
01:01:10.907 --> 01:01:13.170
we kind of made a little run at the end.
01:01:13.349 --> 01:01:14.630
You know, we're going into,
01:01:15.152 --> 01:01:16.271
it was a one-possession game,
01:01:16.293 --> 01:01:17.833
but we didn't score or whatever.
01:01:18.987 --> 01:01:19.668
But those, to me,
01:01:19.710 --> 01:01:21.233
are growing pains and life lessons.
01:01:21.873 --> 01:01:23.317
I feel like right now, man,
01:01:23.376 --> 01:01:24.780
this spring is so critical.
01:01:24.860 --> 01:01:26.123
So go ahead, Tyler.
01:01:26.143 --> 01:01:27.063
You wanted to make a point?
01:01:27.686 --> 01:01:28.927
Yeah, no, I was going to say –
01:01:30.713 --> 01:01:31.574
Just to speak on a little
01:01:31.594 --> 01:01:33.355
bit of what you said, talking about Miami,
01:01:33.775 --> 01:01:34.735
that makes it a little bit
01:01:34.815 --> 01:01:36.096
more interesting.
01:01:37.315 --> 01:01:37.635
First of all,
01:01:37.675 --> 01:01:38.936
we play Rutgers the week before,
01:01:38.976 --> 01:01:39.876
which is going to be a very
01:01:39.916 --> 01:01:40.496
physical game.
01:01:40.556 --> 01:01:42.177
It don't matter if they roll
01:01:42.237 --> 01:01:43.617
me and my grandma out on the field.
01:01:43.657 --> 01:01:46.378
Rutgers is going to be physical.
01:01:46.398 --> 01:01:47.679
My grandma, she passed away.
01:01:47.759 --> 01:01:48.360
God rest her soul.
01:01:48.380 --> 01:01:49.159
God rest her soul.
01:01:52.362 --> 01:01:53.543
Whoever he rolls out on the field,
01:01:53.563 --> 01:01:54.344
they're going to play hard,
01:01:54.943 --> 01:01:55.724
and they're going to hit you.
01:01:56.125 --> 01:01:57.286
So we play them,
01:01:57.405 --> 01:01:58.266
and then the next week we
01:01:58.306 --> 01:01:59.188
go and play Miami.
01:01:59.608 --> 01:02:01.650
Now, when you think about Miami this year,
01:02:01.670 --> 01:02:03.050
they got Cam Ward down there.
01:02:03.530 --> 01:02:07.014
So Kyron wanted to start some stuff up.
01:02:07.614 --> 01:02:08.735
Kyron done went and worked
01:02:08.876 --> 01:02:11.958
out with Cam Ward and Shador Sanders.
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:13.780
And if you go watch that,
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.760
because I done dug into it, man.
01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:17.302
I done watched the tapes
01:02:17.362 --> 01:02:18.483
probably four times.
01:02:19.487 --> 01:02:21.710
Cam talking a little junk to Kyron.
01:02:22.469 --> 01:02:24.532
He said something to the effect of,
01:02:25.391 --> 01:02:26.353
that ain't how you throw that.
01:02:27.054 --> 01:02:29.494
And then Kyron told him, he said,
01:02:29.536 --> 01:02:30.615
I won my bowl game.
01:02:31.737 --> 01:02:34.099
And then Cam said something like, well,
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:35.579
you had to run 250 yards.
01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:37.641
And then I think Shador
01:02:37.981 --> 01:02:39.643
chimed in and said something like,
01:02:40.563 --> 01:02:41.965
the second year,
01:02:42.005 --> 01:02:43.065
you start feeling them hits.
01:02:43.085 --> 01:02:43.626
Yeah.
01:02:44.081 --> 01:02:45.262
And Kyron didn't say nothing.
01:02:45.322 --> 01:02:46.342
He just looked at him like,
01:02:46.682 --> 01:02:48.164
and I'm looking at his face like,
01:02:48.523 --> 01:02:49.764
y'all don't know who you talking to,
01:02:49.784 --> 01:02:50.605
number one.
01:02:51.045 --> 01:02:53.467
And number two, y'all are in Miami,
01:02:53.686 --> 01:02:55.867
but Kyron has his receivers there.
01:02:56.789 --> 01:02:58.411
Ali and Quan was there.
01:02:58.452 --> 01:02:59.032
And, you know,
01:02:59.052 --> 01:03:00.532
the cameraman went to Quan and was like,
01:03:00.873 --> 01:03:01.974
hey, man, tell us your name.
01:03:02.295 --> 01:03:05.056
And there was no partying on Quan's face.
01:03:05.557 --> 01:03:07.039
Quan was like, Quan.
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.601
He didn't say Dequan Felton,
01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:10.422
Virginia Tech.
01:03:10.442 --> 01:03:11.402
He said, what's your name?
01:03:11.442 --> 01:03:12.242
He said, Quan.
01:03:12.563 --> 01:03:13.143
And that was it.
01:03:13.443 --> 01:03:14.425
And went back to catching.
01:03:14.925 --> 01:03:16.927
Hey, them boys mean business, man.
01:03:16.967 --> 01:03:17.668
And I'm telling you,
01:03:18.108 --> 01:03:18.929
what we're going to start
01:03:18.969 --> 01:03:22.172
hearing around that Miami game is,
01:03:22.652 --> 01:03:24.733
you know, you got Heisman Candidate.
01:03:25.414 --> 01:03:27.255
uh uh uh cameron ward and
01:03:27.275 --> 01:03:28.135
depending on how our
01:03:28.155 --> 01:03:29.695
season's going and and dark
01:03:29.715 --> 01:03:31.735
host candidate kyron drones
01:03:31.775 --> 01:03:34.177
that could potentially be a
01:03:34.277 --> 01:03:35.878
big matchup and now I feel
01:03:35.898 --> 01:03:39.039
like I feel it will be yeah
01:03:39.139 --> 01:03:41.559
I i I am I i I i don't I
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:43.519
can't explain to y'all I'm
01:03:43.539 --> 01:03:45.121
not on no homer I'm just
01:03:45.181 --> 01:03:46.280
telling y'all man like
01:03:47.161 --> 01:03:48.802
drones is that dude I'm
01:03:48.882 --> 01:03:50.402
telling you I can't I i
01:03:50.422 --> 01:03:51.523
don't miss I i said the
01:03:51.563 --> 01:03:53.423
same thing when I saw my cousin play
01:03:54.909 --> 01:03:56.309
Um, long before JMU,
01:03:56.349 --> 01:03:57.650
I saw it in practice and it was,
01:03:57.751 --> 01:03:58.931
I remember telling my girlfriend,
01:03:58.971 --> 01:04:01.431
then now my wife, I was like, Shanice,
01:04:01.471 --> 01:04:02.672
Mike is that guy, bro?
01:04:02.731 --> 01:04:04.431
Like I can't explain it.
01:04:04.811 --> 01:04:06.972
And it's something about people in sports.
01:04:07.333 --> 01:04:09.452
You can't describe it.
01:04:10.472 --> 01:04:11.213
I, you know what?
01:04:11.414 --> 01:04:12.014
I'm a chill.
01:04:12.454 --> 01:04:13.353
I know y'all got one last
01:04:13.393 --> 01:04:14.393
question before I jump off.
01:04:15.054 --> 01:04:15.815
I cannot wait.
01:04:15.934 --> 01:04:16.894
I wasn't even really this
01:04:16.934 --> 01:04:17.875
hype for the season.
01:04:18.342 --> 01:04:19.744
until I came on tonight, man.
01:04:19.764 --> 01:04:21.525
I was like, oh, yeah, you know,
01:04:21.545 --> 01:04:22.327
we're going to chop it up,
01:04:22.347 --> 01:04:23.148
talk about spring game.
01:04:23.188 --> 01:04:24.168
Now I'm like, damn,
01:04:24.289 --> 01:04:25.530
can we get to September?
01:04:26.331 --> 01:04:27.592
Oh, I'm ready.
01:04:28.065 --> 01:04:29.987
Yeah, all right.
01:04:30.047 --> 01:04:31.367
And I know we got another question,
01:04:31.387 --> 01:04:32.369
but we got some dude,
01:04:32.409 --> 01:04:34.349
like New King underscore God.
01:04:34.369 --> 01:04:35.550
We got Miami fans, what it is.
01:04:35.570 --> 01:04:36.791
Yeah, he keep chiming in,
01:04:36.811 --> 01:04:37.632
and he's telling me about
01:04:37.731 --> 01:04:38.552
all these people.
01:04:40.052 --> 01:04:40.653
Man, listen,
01:04:41.153 --> 01:04:43.695
we do not give a fuck about Miami.
01:04:43.996 --> 01:04:45.836
This is a Virginia Tech podcast.
01:04:45.876 --> 01:04:47.757
There is nobody on Miami's
01:04:47.797 --> 01:04:49.418
team that we ever been scared of.
01:04:49.498 --> 01:04:50.440
Fuck you talk about.
01:04:50.820 --> 01:04:52.221
Like anybody that y'all have
01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:53.422
ever had on your team,
01:04:54.420 --> 01:04:55.721
We don't give a fuck about that.
01:04:56.581 --> 01:04:57.802
The only Bane we would be
01:04:57.822 --> 01:04:58.922
scared of is if you got
01:04:58.983 --> 01:05:00.543
Bane that broke Batman's back.
01:05:00.884 --> 01:05:01.804
If y'all ain't got him,
01:05:02.445 --> 01:05:03.365
what we talking about?
01:05:04.666 --> 01:05:05.987
We gonna see.
01:05:06.507 --> 01:05:07.668
We gonna see.
01:05:07.907 --> 01:05:08.429
Come on, man.
01:05:08.449 --> 01:05:08.728
Stop.
01:05:08.789 --> 01:05:09.929
Miami, look.
01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:11.471
They will always be back.
01:05:11.510 --> 01:05:12.411
They will always talk.
01:05:12.530 --> 01:05:12.992
I love it.
01:05:13.012 --> 01:05:14.192
That's the good shit.
01:05:15.887 --> 01:05:17.509
Miami was more of our rival
01:05:17.548 --> 01:05:19.168
than UVA Miami and then
01:05:19.208 --> 01:05:20.849
West Virginia we never
01:05:20.869 --> 01:05:22.070
really had that kind of
01:05:22.130 --> 01:05:23.990
energy with UVA even when
01:05:24.010 --> 01:05:25.072
we were both ranked and
01:05:25.092 --> 01:05:25.992
there was a lot of trash
01:05:26.012 --> 01:05:26.871
talking they had Anthony
01:05:26.911 --> 01:05:28.693
Poindexter it was intense
01:05:28.773 --> 01:05:30.954
but Miami and West Virginia
01:05:30.994 --> 01:05:32.655
brought that dog out of us
01:05:32.715 --> 01:05:33.815
to a level where it was
01:05:33.934 --> 01:05:36.295
nasty I love playing Miami
01:05:36.376 --> 01:05:37.257
I love when they're good
01:05:37.297 --> 01:05:38.016
and we're good because
01:05:38.617 --> 01:05:38.898
To me,
01:05:38.918 --> 01:05:40.619
the ACC did get that right when they
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:41.862
renewed that rivalry and
01:05:41.902 --> 01:05:42.641
made it every year.
01:05:43.023 --> 01:05:43.963
And I love it.
01:05:44.003 --> 01:05:46.186
We don't revisit that.
01:05:46.746 --> 01:05:47.608
Shout out to that fan.
01:05:47.648 --> 01:05:48.027
I get it.
01:05:48.068 --> 01:05:49.188
But every year,
01:05:49.208 --> 01:05:49.829
y'all are supposed to be
01:05:49.869 --> 01:05:50.871
back and y'all are supposed
01:05:50.911 --> 01:05:51.391
to be doing this.
01:05:52.054 --> 01:05:52.273
Again,
01:05:52.293 --> 01:05:54.555
y'all haven't won one bowl game in 13,
01:05:54.555 --> 01:05:55.074
14 years.
01:05:55.094 --> 01:05:55.534
Y'all haven't.
01:05:55.735 --> 01:05:55.934
Man,
01:05:55.954 --> 01:05:58.275
we're going to get New King to God on
01:05:58.315 --> 01:05:58.574
here,
01:05:59.076 --> 01:06:00.715
and we're going to talk some
01:06:00.735 --> 01:06:03.336
football the week of the Miami game.
01:06:03.737 --> 01:06:04.797
It's all love, man.
01:06:04.856 --> 01:06:05.797
It's all love.
01:06:05.936 --> 01:06:07.717
I'm glad he repping.
01:06:08.157 --> 01:06:10.117
Look, that's y'all.
01:06:10.157 --> 01:06:11.797
Look, that's y'all podcast, bro.
01:06:12.077 --> 01:06:13.579
You know what I'm saying?
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:14.478
We're going to get him on here.
01:06:15.456 --> 01:06:16.596
When you got haters and you
01:06:16.635 --> 01:06:18.177
got fans from other schools,
01:06:18.297 --> 01:06:19.036
that's a good thing.
01:06:19.077 --> 01:06:20.597
That means you're branching
01:06:20.617 --> 01:06:21.137
out and growing.
01:06:21.157 --> 01:06:21.797
That's a good thing.
01:06:21.818 --> 01:06:22.938
Shout out to that guy, man.
01:06:23.478 --> 01:06:23.918
I love it.
01:06:24.018 --> 01:06:24.418
I love it.
01:06:24.838 --> 01:06:25.838
He's all about drones going
01:06:25.858 --> 01:06:26.619
down to Miami now.
01:06:26.659 --> 01:06:27.119
Like, you know,
01:06:27.858 --> 01:06:29.960
who's going to be training
01:06:30.019 --> 01:06:31.440
in late February in Virginia?
01:06:31.659 --> 01:06:32.001
Come on, man.
01:06:32.021 --> 01:06:32.920
He's just talking now, man.
01:06:32.940 --> 01:06:33.760
Talking about the reason
01:06:33.780 --> 01:06:34.561
they came to Miami.
01:06:34.780 --> 01:06:35.742
You know how many boats and
01:06:35.782 --> 01:06:38.461
hoes in Miami during this time?
01:06:38.521 --> 01:06:40.523
Who's going to do this?
01:06:40.563 --> 01:06:40.862
Yeah,
01:06:40.902 --> 01:06:42.643
you're going to get me to start
01:06:42.663 --> 01:06:43.804
talking crazy over here, man.
01:06:45.626 --> 01:06:46.907
The boys on that with their
01:06:46.927 --> 01:06:47.989
shirts off and everything.
01:06:48.009 --> 01:06:49.351
Yeah, I would have been in Miami too.
01:06:49.791 --> 01:06:51.572
What you talking about?
01:06:51.592 --> 01:06:53.735
I would have been out there
01:06:53.775 --> 01:06:54.637
with my shirt off.
01:06:54.657 --> 01:06:55.838
That's for an After Dark
01:06:55.878 --> 01:06:57.018
podcast right there.
01:06:57.059 --> 01:06:57.559
Right.
01:06:57.599 --> 01:06:58.740
That's right.
01:06:58.780 --> 01:07:01.123
Miami, yeah, he's a lot to do down there.
01:07:01.164 --> 01:07:02.565
Had a great time in them Orange Bowls.
01:07:04.086 --> 01:07:04.327
Brian,
01:07:04.347 --> 01:07:06.847
I think you had some before Dwight
01:07:06.887 --> 01:07:07.548
has to hop off.
01:07:08.188 --> 01:07:09.489
Yeah, I mean, this is the big one.
01:07:09.530 --> 01:07:10.050
I mean,
01:07:10.070 --> 01:07:11.911
we got a spring game coming up on
01:07:11.931 --> 01:07:12.251
April 13th.
01:07:12.291 --> 01:07:14.012
Are we going to see you there?
01:07:14.032 --> 01:07:14.974
Are we going to have some
01:07:14.994 --> 01:07:16.474
good times in Blacksburg?
01:07:16.954 --> 01:07:17.896
Oh, man, so funny.
01:07:17.936 --> 01:07:19.016
I was just talking to my son
01:07:19.056 --> 01:07:20.056
and my wife about this
01:07:20.117 --> 01:07:22.498
because I got so many
01:07:22.539 --> 01:07:24.440
appearances if I come to be a part of.
01:07:25.181 --> 01:07:26.021
I love the spring game.
01:07:26.041 --> 01:07:27.222
You know, until Fuente took over,
01:07:27.262 --> 01:07:28.702
I went to the spring game
01:07:28.702 --> 01:07:29.422
14 straight times.
01:07:29.503 --> 01:07:30.244
I never missed one.
01:07:30.945 --> 01:07:32.346
And then maybe more than that.
01:07:32.385 --> 01:07:33.226
And then, you know,
01:07:33.467 --> 01:07:34.708
there was a couple of years with him.
01:07:34.987 --> 01:07:36.148
I started boycotting it,
01:07:36.208 --> 01:07:38.351
not even on some boycott and tech,
01:07:38.371 --> 01:07:40.391
but it was just, it didn't feel right.
01:07:40.472 --> 01:07:41.452
You know, it was like, you know,
01:07:41.733 --> 01:07:42.434
when you and your girl
01:07:42.454 --> 01:07:43.835
trying to reconcile, but you know,
01:07:43.914 --> 01:07:44.755
ain't right no more.
01:07:45.516 --> 01:07:47.717
Um, but it feels right now, man.
01:07:47.797 --> 01:07:49.199
And, and, and I love tech.
01:07:49.458 --> 01:07:51.139
I love going back to Southwest Virginia.
01:07:51.601 --> 01:07:53.521
So to answer to that is as of right now,
01:07:53.561 --> 01:07:54.682
the plans to come back,
01:07:55.423 --> 01:07:57.485
I got to get my room or something, but,
01:07:58.065 --> 01:07:59.547
um, yeah, man, I'm,
01:08:00.228 --> 01:08:00.907
I'm planning to come.
01:08:00.927 --> 01:08:02.108
The only reason if I don't come,
01:08:02.148 --> 01:08:06.210
it'll be because my son has an AAU game,
01:08:06.269 --> 01:08:08.030
but I think you can live stream it.
01:08:08.170 --> 01:08:09.630
Plus, man, he about to be 18,
01:08:09.630 --> 01:08:10.550
so he don't need me there.
01:08:10.570 --> 01:08:11.090
I don't even go there.
01:08:11.110 --> 01:08:12.512
I didn't even go to his games last year.
01:08:12.552 --> 01:08:14.192
You know what I'm saying?
01:08:14.211 --> 01:08:16.273
So, nah, man, the plan is to be there,
01:08:16.292 --> 01:08:18.394
B. I mean,
01:08:18.434 --> 01:08:19.554
a lot of guys are coming back
01:08:19.673 --> 01:08:20.634
like they always do,
01:08:20.713 --> 01:08:21.875
and I think pride in them.
01:08:22.454 --> 01:08:23.295
I've done a great job
01:08:23.335 --> 01:08:24.395
reconnecting with the alumni.
01:08:24.454 --> 01:08:25.296
I love going back.
01:08:25.435 --> 01:08:26.036
You know, it's funny.
01:08:26.076 --> 01:08:26.496
I played
01:08:27.007 --> 01:08:28.588
My last game was in Tech,
01:08:28.788 --> 01:08:30.408
was against Alabama in 98.
01:08:30.408 --> 01:08:32.029
My last home game was in 98.
01:08:32.149 --> 01:08:35.131
I haven't played since 1998
01:08:35.131 --> 01:08:35.970
as far as for Tech.
01:08:36.150 --> 01:08:38.872
And Hokie Nation shows me love, man.
01:08:38.931 --> 01:08:40.153
Like, it's crazy, bro.
01:08:40.212 --> 01:08:43.173
Like, going back, I feel like a star.
01:08:43.373 --> 01:08:45.095
Like, I get pictures and selfies.
01:08:45.175 --> 01:08:46.614
I sign so many footballs.
01:08:47.775 --> 01:08:47.855
And...
01:08:48.788 --> 01:08:49.770
I met my wife there.
01:08:49.970 --> 01:08:51.192
My cousins went there.
01:08:51.292 --> 01:08:53.113
I say this every time I'm on your show,
01:08:53.134 --> 01:08:53.234
man.
01:08:53.253 --> 01:08:54.694
It's a family affair, man.
01:08:54.715 --> 01:08:56.797
It's just a great place.
01:08:56.837 --> 01:08:58.880
It was some of the best five
01:08:58.920 --> 01:08:59.841
to six years of my life.
01:08:59.900 --> 01:09:00.761
And thank God we didn't have
01:09:00.801 --> 01:09:01.783
social media because we did
01:09:01.802 --> 01:09:02.944
some wild stuff too.
01:09:04.206 --> 01:09:05.868
And I don't mean that nothing illegal.
01:09:06.087 --> 01:09:09.692
I don't want to get canceled.
01:09:09.731 --> 01:09:10.672
Nothing crazy, man.
01:09:11.779 --> 01:09:13.661
but lived in Fox Ridge, Terrence View,
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:14.362
Collegiate Street.
01:09:14.943 --> 01:09:16.244
Oh, man, you did them all then.
01:09:16.305 --> 01:09:17.126
You lived it up.
01:09:17.386 --> 01:09:18.046
I lived it up, man.
01:09:18.167 --> 01:09:19.349
Look, bro,
01:09:19.849 --> 01:09:21.051
that's back in the day when I had energy,
01:09:21.070 --> 01:09:21.171
man.
01:09:21.251 --> 01:09:22.752
I'd go to bed at 3 in the morning, man,
01:09:22.792 --> 01:09:23.694
and wake up at 7 and
01:09:25.086 --> 01:09:25.867
That's back when I could eat
01:09:25.907 --> 01:09:27.068
whatever when I was in shape.
01:09:27.108 --> 01:09:28.448
Now, man, I got to be careful.
01:09:28.548 --> 01:09:30.510
I don't even eat ice cream no more, man.
01:09:30.550 --> 01:09:31.150
I'll be done.
01:09:31.171 --> 01:09:32.851
That's back when Blacksburg
01:09:32.872 --> 01:09:33.932
allowed gatherings, right?
01:09:34.632 --> 01:09:35.654
I saw that, yo.
01:09:35.774 --> 01:09:36.475
I saw it.
01:09:36.774 --> 01:09:38.435
It's crazy, bro.
01:09:39.136 --> 01:09:40.057
You know what, man?
01:09:40.198 --> 01:09:40.917
I told y'all.
01:09:41.238 --> 01:09:42.720
Anyway, I got to jump off, man.
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:43.399
I love y'all.
01:09:43.619 --> 01:09:44.280
I really do.
01:09:44.701 --> 01:09:45.502
I can't tell y'all.
01:09:45.981 --> 01:09:47.143
Shout out to all of y'all, man.
01:09:47.162 --> 01:09:48.224
Y'all keep supporting this
01:09:48.724 --> 01:09:50.666
Boundary Corners podcast, man.
01:09:50.706 --> 01:09:52.127
Three of the best brothers out here.
01:09:52.604 --> 01:09:53.466
Y'all are doing enough for
01:09:53.485 --> 01:09:54.667
Virginia Tech sports,
01:09:55.207 --> 01:09:56.609
especially the football program.
01:09:57.090 --> 01:09:58.872
Curtis, B, Tally, man,
01:09:58.891 --> 01:10:00.194
I love y'all to death, man.
01:10:00.213 --> 01:10:03.077
Y'all really bring everybody together.
01:10:03.676 --> 01:10:04.478
And the thing about y'all,
01:10:04.518 --> 01:10:05.619
hold us accountable,
01:10:05.659 --> 01:10:07.622
yet you give great insight, great guests.
01:10:08.293 --> 01:10:09.074
I'm always on it.
01:10:09.095 --> 01:10:10.895
Every time B texts me, I'm like, all right,
01:10:10.916 --> 01:10:11.957
let me make this schedule work.
01:10:11.976 --> 01:10:15.158
I got lots of work I got to do tonight.
01:10:15.179 --> 01:10:16.380
Can I say something real quick?
01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:17.161
Yeah.
01:10:17.201 --> 01:10:18.220
Thank you for jumping on in
01:10:18.261 --> 01:10:20.002
December because you
01:10:20.042 --> 01:10:21.162
hopping on in the middle of
01:10:21.203 --> 01:10:23.645
that chaos was absolutely
01:10:23.925 --> 01:10:25.787
fabulous because I'm
01:10:25.827 --> 01:10:26.726
feeling good over here.
01:10:26.807 --> 01:10:27.787
I'm going to text Dwight.
01:10:27.967 --> 01:10:29.208
Dwight, can you get on?
01:10:29.248 --> 01:10:30.430
It's like 11 o'clock at night.
01:10:30.869 --> 01:10:31.631
Give me five, Kurt.
01:10:31.671 --> 01:10:32.150
I'll be there.
01:10:32.492 --> 01:10:35.094
Next time you hop on screen, it's like, oh,
01:10:35.134 --> 01:10:35.453
man.
01:10:36.192 --> 01:10:37.512
yeah you know I don't have a
01:10:37.793 --> 01:10:38.713
I don't have a favorite
01:10:38.734 --> 01:10:41.537
team anymore um except tech
01:10:41.577 --> 01:10:42.998
like I grew up a washington
01:10:43.458 --> 01:10:45.820
skins fan and when snyder
01:10:45.841 --> 01:10:46.881
took over I just kind of
01:10:46.902 --> 01:10:48.104
fell back I play fantasy
01:10:48.123 --> 01:10:50.166
football I do parlays nba
01:10:50.206 --> 01:10:51.207
is more of a player so I
01:10:51.266 --> 01:10:52.448
have players I check for
01:10:53.068 --> 01:10:53.729
and you know I like
01:10:53.769 --> 01:10:54.850
watching jason tatum and
01:10:54.869 --> 01:10:56.011
other guys curry is great
01:10:56.030 --> 01:10:57.533
to watch but when it comes
01:10:57.573 --> 01:10:58.434
to tech man y'all gotta
01:10:58.453 --> 01:10:59.614
understand something bro when
01:11:00.645 --> 01:11:02.166
When we lost in Boston College, man,
01:11:02.206 --> 01:11:03.207
we were number three or
01:11:03.266 --> 01:11:04.247
number something in the nation,
01:11:04.306 --> 01:11:05.346
and we lost at that last
01:11:05.367 --> 01:11:06.346
minute with Matt Ryan.
01:11:07.226 --> 01:11:08.847
We lost those games that we
01:11:08.887 --> 01:11:09.648
shouldn't have won.
01:11:10.408 --> 01:11:11.768
You know, for me, it sits with me.
01:11:11.788 --> 01:11:13.109
It hurts my spirit.
01:11:13.128 --> 01:11:15.628
Because, you know, it's my squad, bro.
01:11:15.649 --> 01:11:16.770
Like, you know, I helped build that.
01:11:16.829 --> 01:11:17.050
Like,
01:11:18.149 --> 01:11:19.789
you will never catch me at a pro game
01:11:19.850 --> 01:11:21.030
fighting with a Raiders fan.
01:11:21.190 --> 01:11:21.730
I don't care.
01:11:21.930 --> 01:11:23.011
I'm there just to watch the
01:11:23.030 --> 01:11:24.530
game and make sure my parlay hit.
01:11:25.212 --> 01:11:27.292
But with Tech, it means too much, man.
01:11:27.782 --> 01:11:28.981
That's why I was on Sally's
01:11:29.021 --> 01:11:31.323
pod Twitter live that night, man,
01:11:31.342 --> 01:11:32.743
until damn near 3 in the morning.
01:11:33.323 --> 01:11:33.904
I really was.
01:11:33.944 --> 01:11:34.844
We were on there like 2
01:11:34.844 --> 01:11:35.645
o'clock in the morning.
01:11:36.164 --> 01:11:38.484
Because I didn't do it just
01:11:38.524 --> 01:11:39.905
for pride and Virginia Tech.
01:11:39.945 --> 01:11:41.685
I did it because I needed
01:11:41.706 --> 01:11:42.947
the fans to calm down
01:11:43.006 --> 01:11:44.386
because we were on that pod
01:11:44.747 --> 01:11:46.188
because we love Tech.
01:11:46.268 --> 01:11:47.927
We were ready to blow.
01:11:48.029 --> 01:11:49.929
Yeah, people were talking.
01:11:50.048 --> 01:11:50.929
It was anarchy.
01:11:50.948 --> 01:11:52.229
I mean, it was crazy.
01:11:52.250 --> 01:11:53.689
People were like, yeah, man.
01:11:53.810 --> 01:11:55.251
But we wrote it out.
01:11:56.587 --> 01:11:58.930
And, you know, God bless everybody, man.
01:11:58.949 --> 01:12:00.011
I appreciate y'all, for real.
01:12:00.030 --> 01:12:02.032
I appreciate you, brother.
01:12:02.112 --> 01:12:02.592
Appreciate you.
01:12:03.673 --> 01:12:03.953
Yeah.
01:12:04.073 --> 01:12:04.493
Yes, sir.
01:12:05.154 --> 01:12:06.636
So, y'all keep up the great work, man.
01:12:06.756 --> 01:12:08.157
I will catch y'all on the next one.
01:12:08.176 --> 01:12:09.497
Of course, when y'all go live again,
01:12:09.537 --> 01:12:10.498
I'll be there with my
01:12:11.078 --> 01:12:12.701
comments at the bottom doing my thing.
01:12:12.740 --> 01:12:14.601
We'll throw them up there.
01:12:14.622 --> 01:12:15.422
We'll keep it moving, man.
01:12:15.443 --> 01:12:16.222
Appreciate you, Dwight.
01:12:16.302 --> 01:12:17.704
Appreciate you, Dwight.
01:12:17.744 --> 01:12:19.206
Tell Isaiah to keep doing his thing.
01:12:19.525 --> 01:12:20.006
Yeah, man.
01:12:20.025 --> 01:12:21.027
Keep us in prayer, man.
01:12:21.046 --> 01:12:22.207
We all trying to do the right thing.
01:12:22.748 --> 01:12:23.229
Yes, sir.
01:12:23.649 --> 01:12:23.828
Yes, sir.
01:12:23.849 --> 01:12:24.310
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01:12:26.225 --> 01:12:26.426
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All righty, we are back.
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We got a couple more things
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we're going to hit before
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we wrap up here tonight, y'all.
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It came out today,
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and I just wanted to hear
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my two guys' opinions.
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:01.720
Clemson has effectively
01:14:01.940 --> 01:14:04.761
joined Florida State in suing the ACC.
01:14:05.903 --> 01:14:07.422
I don't think – I'm not shocked.
01:14:07.542 --> 01:14:09.003
Brian, Tally, y'all got anything on it?
01:14:09.743 --> 01:14:10.564
I'm not shocked.
01:14:11.345 --> 01:14:12.166
I think they were going to
01:14:12.206 --> 01:14:14.007
be the next domino always.
01:14:14.047 --> 01:14:15.670
That was kind of what we
01:14:15.729 --> 01:14:17.030
expected from the jump.
01:14:17.190 --> 01:14:18.813
Them, maybe UNC,
01:14:18.872 --> 01:14:21.055
kind of a potential to
01:14:21.095 --> 01:14:22.916
throw their name in there, maybe Miami.
01:14:22.975 --> 01:14:24.478
But Clemson was always,
01:14:24.898 --> 01:14:26.239
from a revenue standpoint,
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:27.180
going to be the team that
01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:29.221
can make the most noise at
01:14:29.242 --> 01:14:30.583
the top end of the ACC.
01:14:30.623 --> 01:14:31.224
So they're going to
01:14:31.444 --> 01:14:33.286
obviously be the ones –
01:14:33.286 --> 01:14:34.206
that would have the most
01:14:34.246 --> 01:14:35.167
grievances under the
01:14:35.207 --> 01:14:37.186
current current rules the
01:14:37.226 --> 01:14:38.307
modified rules that we're
01:14:38.347 --> 01:14:42.668
moving into um so it
01:14:42.708 --> 01:14:44.208
doesn't surprise me I'm
01:14:44.269 --> 01:14:45.489
interested to see the
01:14:45.569 --> 01:14:47.069
lawyers for fsu versus the
01:14:47.109 --> 01:14:48.051
lawyers for clemson because
01:14:48.131 --> 01:14:49.070
clemson is taking a
01:14:49.150 --> 01:14:50.650
slightly different angle
01:14:51.230 --> 01:14:53.572
with their argument so um
01:14:54.011 --> 01:14:55.432
and I think might be a more
01:14:55.472 --> 01:14:57.193
effective angle with their
01:14:57.292 --> 01:14:58.913
argument but we'll see what
01:14:59.694 --> 01:15:02.194
the powers that be rule on there,
01:15:02.295 --> 01:15:04.055
but it's very interesting
01:15:04.095 --> 01:15:05.256
the way they're approaching this thing.
01:15:05.716 --> 01:15:05.815
Yeah.
01:15:05.836 --> 01:15:06.895
And Clemson was a lot more
01:15:06.996 --> 01:15:07.916
quiet about it too.
01:15:08.555 --> 01:15:08.817
Yeah.
01:15:09.197 --> 01:15:10.577
Florida state was ramping up
01:15:10.657 --> 01:15:12.318
and they was woofing a lot.
01:15:12.417 --> 01:15:12.997
You know what I'm saying?
01:15:13.018 --> 01:15:14.278
They had a lot to say before
01:15:14.297 --> 01:15:16.019
they actually pulled a trigger.
01:15:16.038 --> 01:15:17.238
Clemson just kind of did it.
01:15:17.298 --> 01:15:17.418
So,
01:15:18.041 --> 01:15:19.542
Yeah, it is what it is.
01:15:19.822 --> 01:15:20.261
And you know,
01:15:20.301 --> 01:15:21.442
just added fuel to the fire
01:15:21.481 --> 01:15:22.341
with the way the whole
01:15:22.402 --> 01:15:23.262
college football playoff
01:15:23.302 --> 01:15:24.122
shit went down this year.
01:15:24.143 --> 01:15:25.143
So yeah, yeah,
01:15:25.182 --> 01:15:26.844
they were already gassed up before that.
01:15:26.863 --> 01:15:28.465
And you just throw fuel on that fire.
01:15:28.505 --> 01:15:29.524
So they were definitely
01:15:30.185 --> 01:15:31.546
coming at it from a very
01:15:31.765 --> 01:15:33.445
vitriol standpoint.
01:15:34.707 --> 01:15:37.046
Whereas Clemson is very much like, alright,
01:15:37.087 --> 01:15:38.927
we're, we're kind of laying it out here,
01:15:39.328 --> 01:15:40.127
step by step.
01:15:42.469 --> 01:15:43.210
They seem to be a little
01:15:43.229 --> 01:15:44.430
more methodical with their approach.
01:15:45.375 --> 01:15:46.796
But the one methodical thing
01:15:46.855 --> 01:15:48.975
that I do think that I
01:15:49.015 --> 01:15:49.596
don't know why they're
01:15:49.617 --> 01:15:50.577
barking up this tree.
01:15:50.617 --> 01:15:51.997
And I talked to Tally,
01:15:52.037 --> 01:15:53.198
me and we were talking
01:15:53.238 --> 01:15:54.278
about it before we jumped
01:15:54.377 --> 01:15:57.139
on tonight was the whole, well,
01:15:57.179 --> 01:15:58.399
this is too big of a,
01:15:58.460 --> 01:15:59.420
this is too much money to
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:00.399
get out of a conference.
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:02.621
And it's like, well, did you sign it?
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:03.541
Well, yeah, we did.
01:16:04.221 --> 01:16:04.542
Okay.
01:16:04.902 --> 01:16:05.761
That's like signing a
01:16:05.822 --> 01:16:06.662
non-disclosure and
01:16:06.702 --> 01:16:08.002
non-compete with a company, right?
01:16:08.622 --> 01:16:10.823
Hey, this company wants me for $300,000.
01:16:10.904 --> 01:16:11.764
You did a non-compete.
01:16:11.783 --> 01:16:12.444
You can't do that.
01:16:12.503 --> 01:16:12.904
You do that.
01:16:12.944 --> 01:16:14.064
We're going to sue the pants off you.
01:16:14.945 --> 01:16:16.528
Like you can't sit here and
01:16:16.587 --> 01:16:17.708
say it's too much when you
01:16:17.769 --> 01:16:18.529
literally signed the
01:16:18.569 --> 01:16:20.270
document saying it was that much,
01:16:20.530 --> 01:16:21.972
because clearly at that point in time,
01:16:22.033 --> 01:16:22.993
it won't too much to you.
01:16:23.033 --> 01:16:24.074
But now now it's too much
01:16:24.095 --> 01:16:24.854
because I won't leave.
01:16:25.256 --> 01:16:26.756
That's the only part of
01:16:26.856 --> 01:16:30.400
their like release that makes no sense.
01:16:31.001 --> 01:16:32.662
Like if you leave that off there,
01:16:33.203 --> 01:16:33.823
like you said, Brian,
01:16:33.863 --> 01:16:34.765
it's more methodical.
01:16:35.005 --> 01:16:35.865
But that piece doesn't make
01:16:35.905 --> 01:16:36.546
sense to anybody.
01:16:36.567 --> 01:16:37.447
Doesn't make sense to me
01:16:37.927 --> 01:16:40.130
thinking in a legal or business sense.
01:16:40.444 --> 01:16:40.783
Well,
01:16:40.823 --> 01:16:42.965
I think the one thing they're doing
01:16:42.984 --> 01:16:44.225
that may be smart is that
01:16:44.246 --> 01:16:45.586
they're breaking it up into
01:16:45.666 --> 01:16:47.167
two different arguments, right?
01:16:47.947 --> 01:16:48.766
So they're breaking it up
01:16:48.827 --> 01:16:53.009
into the exit fee and then the rights.
01:16:53.609 --> 01:16:53.809
Yeah.
01:16:54.048 --> 01:16:55.130
So combined,
01:16:55.170 --> 01:16:56.970
those are worth about $600 million,
01:16:56.990 --> 01:16:57.831
but broken apart...
01:16:59.163 --> 01:17:01.645
The exit fee is only about 180,
01:17:01.645 --> 01:17:03.925
somewhere in that ballpark.
01:17:04.944 --> 01:17:06.326
So by breaking it out,
01:17:06.706 --> 01:17:07.845
the judge might rule
01:17:08.845 --> 01:17:09.907
affirmatively for them on
01:17:10.127 --> 01:17:11.266
one end and not on the other,
01:17:11.327 --> 01:17:12.067
which might give them a
01:17:12.106 --> 01:17:14.148
little more leverage with
01:17:14.228 --> 01:17:15.507
whatever their potential
01:17:15.568 --> 01:17:16.688
landing spot might be as
01:17:16.728 --> 01:17:17.707
far as new conference and
01:17:17.747 --> 01:17:18.548
what they're willing to
01:17:18.609 --> 01:17:21.729
pony up in order to get
01:17:21.769 --> 01:17:23.529
them out and into their conference.
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:24.779
True.
01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:25.801
All right.
01:17:26.140 --> 01:17:27.601
I'm looking up at the TV here.
01:17:27.622 --> 01:17:28.582
Let's jump on this thing
01:17:28.622 --> 01:17:29.421
because I don't think they
01:17:29.442 --> 01:17:30.342
can blow this lead.
01:17:30.422 --> 01:17:35.465
Tech's up 72-56 NIT first round at home.
01:17:35.484 --> 01:17:36.826
So looking like they're going to.
01:17:37.046 --> 01:17:37.867
It's less than a minute.
01:17:37.886 --> 01:17:38.506
I think we're good.
01:17:38.527 --> 01:17:40.547
You sure about that?
01:17:42.029 --> 01:17:43.011
If they pull it off,
01:17:43.570 --> 01:17:45.492
props to them because 16
01:17:45.492 --> 01:17:49.774
points in 49 seconds is –
01:17:49.774 --> 01:17:51.175
They deserve to win if they do that,
01:17:51.215 --> 01:17:51.475
don't they?
01:17:51.815 --> 01:17:52.336
Yeah, they do.
01:17:52.716 --> 01:17:53.197
Yeah, they do.
01:17:53.556 --> 01:17:54.216
But I don't think that's
01:17:54.277 --> 01:17:55.658
going to happen because we
01:17:55.738 --> 01:17:57.078
even got the subs out there.
01:17:57.658 --> 01:17:59.720
But, I mean, at least we got in the NIT.
01:17:59.859 --> 01:18:03.402
I mean, you know,
01:18:04.203 --> 01:18:06.064
it's tough to get up for like that.
01:18:06.524 --> 01:18:07.744
The only thing you hope is –
01:18:08.510 --> 01:18:09.890
There's not many guys – the
01:18:09.930 --> 01:18:11.270
only person leaving is Hunter Couture,
01:18:11.310 --> 01:18:13.572
right?
01:18:14.112 --> 01:18:15.091
That's the only person that
01:18:15.612 --> 01:18:16.432
cannot come back.
01:18:16.712 --> 01:18:17.693
Cannot come back.
01:18:17.733 --> 01:18:19.274
That might be a better way to phrase it.
01:18:19.293 --> 01:18:19.713
There you go.
01:18:20.154 --> 01:18:21.333
We don't know who will come back.
01:18:21.713 --> 01:18:23.074
But that's the only upside
01:18:23.135 --> 01:18:24.734
is maybe you get somebody –
01:18:24.734 --> 01:18:26.355
like play Tyler Nichols some more.
01:18:26.376 --> 01:18:28.157
Because we saw at times this year, Tally,
01:18:28.197 --> 01:18:29.337
you can shake your head, yeah.
01:18:29.596 --> 01:18:30.436
When Tyler Nichols – there
01:18:30.457 --> 01:18:31.478
were a couple games where –
01:18:31.478 --> 01:18:32.797
I like Tyler Nichols.
01:18:32.818 --> 01:18:33.798
That kid can play and he's
01:18:33.838 --> 01:18:34.658
coming off the bench.
01:18:34.698 --> 01:18:36.259
And I'm sure at times Tally's like,
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:37.479
just start him.
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:37.619
Yeah.
01:18:39.020 --> 01:18:41.162
Mike Young is – I think Mike
01:18:41.182 --> 01:18:41.983
Young is a good coach.
01:18:42.002 --> 01:18:43.225
He's a very systems coach,
01:18:44.185 --> 01:18:45.646
and he looks for system players.
01:18:46.407 --> 01:18:48.628
So system players sometimes
01:18:48.708 --> 01:18:49.810
are more fundamental than
01:18:49.850 --> 01:18:50.930
they are athletic.
01:18:51.532 --> 01:18:51.731
Yeah.
01:18:51.912 --> 01:18:52.292
Again,
01:18:52.893 --> 01:18:54.715
I'm not saying that I know anything
01:18:54.795 --> 01:18:55.775
more than he does because
01:18:55.796 --> 01:18:57.016
he is a good coach.
01:18:57.037 --> 01:18:58.358
He's been coaching for a long time.
01:18:58.818 --> 01:19:01.039
But I can tell you, in the ACC –
01:19:01.966 --> 01:19:03.247
Some of those old systems
01:19:03.307 --> 01:19:04.868
and fundamentals will lose
01:19:04.908 --> 01:19:05.951
you games when you're
01:19:05.970 --> 01:19:07.011
playing against these big
01:19:07.551 --> 01:19:09.654
physical athletic guards
01:19:10.234 --> 01:19:10.956
that you're going to play
01:19:10.975 --> 01:19:14.841
against from Miami, Boston College, Duke,
01:19:15.902 --> 01:19:16.703
North Carolina.
01:19:16.722 --> 01:19:16.703
100%.
01:19:16.783 --> 01:19:18.264
I mean, it's tough, man.
01:19:22.047 --> 01:19:25.831
So I would love for him to, I mean,
01:19:25.871 --> 01:19:26.850
he could have capitalized.
01:19:26.890 --> 01:19:28.893
He did capitalize on some of
01:19:28.912 --> 01:19:29.773
the success he had,
01:19:29.813 --> 01:19:30.613
but then we can't keep
01:19:30.694 --> 01:19:31.833
anybody in Blacksburg.
01:19:32.354 --> 01:19:33.015
You know what I'm saying?
01:19:33.034 --> 01:19:34.155
We get somebody and we think
01:19:34.195 --> 01:19:35.417
they're pretty decent,
01:19:35.436 --> 01:19:36.877
and next thing you know, they're gone.
01:19:37.238 --> 01:19:38.198
Or, you know,
01:19:38.219 --> 01:19:40.119
they don't even start the season.
01:19:40.140 --> 01:19:41.440
So I don't know, man.
01:19:42.713 --> 01:19:43.293
Yeah, I mean,
01:19:43.373 --> 01:19:44.515
it's been frustrating to watch.
01:19:44.555 --> 01:19:46.114
I think, you know, to your point, Tally,
01:19:46.154 --> 01:19:47.555
like when we do get a
01:19:47.576 --> 01:19:48.615
couple of those guys that
01:19:48.676 --> 01:19:50.617
can be bigger or more
01:19:50.976 --> 01:19:52.256
physical and more athletic,
01:19:53.497 --> 01:19:54.557
we tend to not be able to
01:19:54.597 --> 01:19:55.337
hold on to them.
01:19:56.078 --> 01:19:57.979
And then, you know,
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:00.220
we're kind of taking one step forward,
01:20:00.380 --> 01:20:02.360
two steps back with the way
01:20:02.400 --> 01:20:03.421
the roster management is.
01:20:03.440 --> 01:20:04.261
And I think that's probably
01:20:04.282 --> 01:20:05.261
hurt us more than anything
01:20:06.021 --> 01:20:07.262
is roster management has
01:20:07.283 --> 01:20:09.523
been so inconsistent that
01:20:09.583 --> 01:20:11.717
we can't really –
01:20:11.717 --> 01:20:13.118
lean on anyone but some of
01:20:13.158 --> 01:20:14.460
these more fundamental guys
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:15.140
that you know are going to
01:20:15.180 --> 01:20:15.942
stick around because they
01:20:16.002 --> 01:20:16.862
fit what Mike Young's
01:20:16.881 --> 01:20:18.023
trying to do schematically.
01:20:18.724 --> 01:20:18.923
Right.
01:20:19.425 --> 01:20:19.685
Yep.
01:20:19.984 --> 01:20:21.707
But that is what it is.
01:20:21.747 --> 01:20:22.927
They'll play Ohio State.
01:20:23.007 --> 01:20:25.168
I assume that'll be – what's today?
01:20:25.189 --> 01:20:27.310
Today is Tuesday.
01:20:27.390 --> 01:20:28.072
Thursday, I guess.
01:20:28.131 --> 01:20:28.612
Tuesday.
01:20:28.692 --> 01:20:30.554
All right.
01:20:30.613 --> 01:20:31.414
Let's roll on.
01:20:31.614 --> 01:20:33.076
Ladies got a four seed.
01:20:33.095 --> 01:20:34.676
They'll be playing at home this weekend.
01:20:34.697 --> 01:20:38.740
I did not see the whole thing.
01:20:38.780 --> 01:20:39.921
I caught pieces of it.
01:20:41.161 --> 01:20:43.021
there's potentially Kittley could play,
01:20:43.662 --> 01:20:46.304
which tells me she did not tear.
01:20:46.863 --> 01:20:48.005
Because my assumption was
01:20:48.045 --> 01:20:48.625
going to be this.
01:20:49.345 --> 01:20:50.466
If that thing was torn,
01:20:51.046 --> 01:20:52.327
as soon as they got to four seed,
01:20:52.367 --> 01:20:53.426
they would just say it, right?
01:20:54.608 --> 01:20:55.849
There's nothing left to hide.
01:20:56.349 --> 01:20:58.890
Chips are on the table.
01:20:58.949 --> 01:21:00.490
I mean, at this point, I mean.
01:21:00.511 --> 01:21:01.251
What are you trying to hide
01:21:01.270 --> 01:21:01.591
from a 13 seed?
01:21:01.652 --> 01:21:03.693
They're going to figure it out real quick,
01:21:03.712 --> 01:21:04.832
practicing in Blacksburg,
01:21:04.893 --> 01:21:06.094
that she ain't going to be there.
01:21:07.546 --> 01:21:09.646
So maybe it's just a
01:21:09.787 --> 01:21:12.146
terrible sprain and it's – I mean,
01:21:12.646 --> 01:21:13.707
I got to pull up the
01:21:13.768 --> 01:21:14.868
bracket here because I know
01:21:14.887 --> 01:21:16.007
we're playing Marshall.
01:21:16.787 --> 01:21:18.109
Who's the five, Brian?
01:21:18.128 --> 01:21:19.448
Do you have that up?
01:21:19.649 --> 01:21:20.488
I can get it up.
01:21:22.770 --> 01:21:25.050
Because either way, you know,
01:21:25.069 --> 01:21:27.131
you feel – it just hurts
01:21:27.150 --> 01:21:28.011
because you know they got a
01:21:28.070 --> 01:21:30.731
legitimate shot if she's fully healthy,
01:21:30.792 --> 01:21:32.351
not only to win two weeks ago,
01:21:32.712 --> 01:21:33.653
but to go deep again.
01:21:34.153 --> 01:21:35.252
And that's where it irritates you.
01:21:37.523 --> 01:21:37.622
Yeah,
01:21:37.643 --> 01:21:38.904
I think that's the biggest thing is
01:21:38.963 --> 01:21:40.505
that you know that there's
01:21:40.524 --> 01:21:41.404
that potential there.
01:21:41.426 --> 01:21:43.766
And it's hard to see if
01:21:43.787 --> 01:21:45.488
they're going to be able to
01:21:45.547 --> 01:21:46.828
live up to that potential
01:21:46.948 --> 01:21:48.189
without her in the lineup.
01:21:49.430 --> 01:21:51.152
We saw some up and down
01:21:51.212 --> 01:21:52.893
stuff in the ACC tournament
01:21:52.993 --> 01:21:55.274
from being able to sustain
01:21:56.614 --> 01:21:57.615
without her in the lineup.
01:21:57.676 --> 01:21:59.256
So it's going to be interesting.
01:22:00.056 --> 01:22:01.457
I think Kenny said something
01:22:01.497 --> 01:22:02.399
to the effect of
01:22:04.305 --> 01:22:05.947
if she didn't have a future
01:22:06.067 --> 01:22:07.988
going forward then they
01:22:08.028 --> 01:22:09.988
might have tried her in
01:22:10.009 --> 01:22:11.510
maybe like the last game or
01:22:11.550 --> 01:22:14.331
something he said something
01:22:14.350 --> 01:22:16.332
to that effect okay
01:22:16.792 --> 01:22:18.193
championship yeah okay
01:22:18.212 --> 01:22:19.493
because of because they
01:22:19.533 --> 01:22:20.613
know she has a future in
01:22:20.654 --> 01:22:22.154
basketball they don't want
01:22:22.175 --> 01:22:24.296
to risk anything you know they want to
01:22:25.327 --> 01:22:26.787
make sure that she's fine
01:22:27.028 --> 01:22:28.127
before she steps back on
01:22:28.167 --> 01:22:30.449
the court so I'm hoping
01:22:30.670 --> 01:22:31.689
that that ain't just coach
01:22:31.729 --> 01:22:32.850
speak you know what I'm
01:22:32.890 --> 01:22:34.310
saying I'm hoping that you
01:22:34.350 --> 01:22:36.512
know like you say it when
01:22:36.533 --> 01:22:38.533
they got that four seed you
01:22:38.554 --> 01:22:39.354
would have said hey she's
01:22:39.373 --> 01:22:41.055
getting surgery because if
01:22:41.135 --> 01:22:41.854
it's acl you're having
01:22:41.895 --> 01:22:43.036
surgery you know what well
01:22:43.055 --> 01:22:44.355
you can't you if you got to
01:22:44.395 --> 01:22:45.117
do it what are you waiting
01:22:45.197 --> 01:22:45.997
on you know what I'm saying
01:22:46.037 --> 01:22:46.657
you want to go ahead and
01:22:46.676 --> 01:22:47.738
get started so you can
01:22:48.318 --> 01:22:50.059
start rehabbing so if it's
01:22:50.118 --> 01:22:51.420
not torn you know
01:22:52.375 --> 01:22:53.335
I would love to see her in a
01:22:53.354 --> 01:22:54.636
Virginia Tech jersey again.
01:22:54.815 --> 01:22:56.676
You know what I'm saying?
01:22:56.716 --> 01:22:57.076
One more time.
01:22:57.195 --> 01:22:59.317
Even if it's one more time, man, you know,
01:22:59.497 --> 01:23:00.417
I would love to see her in
01:23:00.436 --> 01:23:02.078
a – because she deserves that.
01:23:02.537 --> 01:23:02.698
Yep.
01:23:02.837 --> 01:23:04.057
So, I don't know, man.
01:23:04.078 --> 01:23:05.078
I'm holding out hope that
01:23:05.217 --> 01:23:06.038
we'll see her again.
01:23:06.538 --> 01:23:07.538
Yep, and it's Baylor.
01:23:08.038 --> 01:23:10.079
Baylor is the matchup down at home.
01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:11.460
Kind of funny, right?
01:23:11.500 --> 01:23:12.100
Full circle.
01:23:12.500 --> 01:23:14.440
Got to play Baylor a year later.
01:23:15.407 --> 01:23:16.609
All right, last piece.
01:23:16.828 --> 01:23:19.212
I wanted to hit this because, you know,
01:23:19.231 --> 01:23:20.092
we had Joe on here just a
01:23:20.113 --> 01:23:21.895
couple weeks ago talking about wrestling.
01:23:21.914 --> 01:23:24.378
Did y'all see that because
01:23:24.418 --> 01:23:25.119
of the injuries that's
01:23:25.140 --> 01:23:27.863
happened that Tech's now
01:23:27.882 --> 01:23:29.545
the second bedding favorite
01:23:29.564 --> 01:23:30.485
to win a national title?
01:23:31.488 --> 01:23:32.349
I did not see that.
01:23:33.390 --> 01:23:34.310
Joe tweet too much.
01:23:35.150 --> 01:23:37.051
Cause I would go find it and pull it up,
01:23:37.091 --> 01:23:38.694
but it's one of the sites
01:23:38.713 --> 01:23:40.175
he follows pretty closely.
01:23:40.395 --> 01:23:40.774
Literally.
01:23:40.814 --> 01:23:42.015
We are the second betting
01:23:42.076 --> 01:23:43.997
favorite because a couple
01:23:44.018 --> 01:23:47.000
of the categories where Penn state strong,
01:23:47.819 --> 01:23:49.381
it's where guys of ours could win.
01:23:49.402 --> 01:23:51.783
And, you know, Joe talked about it.
01:23:51.904 --> 01:23:53.505
If you get three, there's,
01:23:53.604 --> 01:23:54.706
there's two key injuries.
01:23:54.725 --> 01:23:55.506
Yeah.
01:23:55.546 --> 01:23:55.726
Yeah.
01:23:58.103 --> 01:23:58.502
He's out.
01:23:59.604 --> 01:24:00.685
There's two key injuries
01:24:00.704 --> 01:24:01.765
that are putting us in a
01:24:01.984 --> 01:24:02.826
really good position.
01:24:03.725 --> 01:24:04.787
Weight classes where we were
01:24:04.827 --> 01:24:06.948
already predicted to finish
01:24:06.988 --> 01:24:10.390
pretty high could end up finishing one.
01:24:10.810 --> 01:24:14.212
So you start stacking some
01:24:14.231 --> 01:24:14.972
of that and you start
01:24:15.012 --> 01:24:16.613
getting some of these, I think,
01:24:16.713 --> 01:24:17.213
as Joe said,
01:24:17.253 --> 01:24:18.475
some of the younger guys in
01:24:18.555 --> 01:24:20.815
these spots where we
01:24:20.855 --> 01:24:22.476
haven't looked as good or as sharp.
01:24:22.537 --> 01:24:24.738
I think if you get some extra wins there,
01:24:24.797 --> 01:24:25.779
you might be on to something.
01:24:27.270 --> 01:24:28.310
So that's going to be kind
01:24:28.371 --> 01:24:31.552
of the interesting piece because of that.
01:24:31.953 --> 01:24:33.734
And it's such a weird sport because,
01:24:34.154 --> 01:24:34.395
you know,
01:24:34.435 --> 01:24:35.697
we had a couple years ago young
01:24:35.716 --> 01:24:37.457
guys getting the top five.
01:24:38.177 --> 01:24:38.939
And that's what happens.
01:24:39.198 --> 01:24:41.220
Some kid who's good gets in the top five.
01:24:42.041 --> 01:24:43.282
He becomes an All-American.
01:24:43.322 --> 01:24:44.143
And the next thing you know,
01:24:44.182 --> 01:24:45.323
you go from being 10th to, like,
01:24:45.363 --> 01:24:47.886
being 5th because of that finish.
01:24:48.506 --> 01:24:49.287
It's wild to watch.
01:24:49.346 --> 01:24:50.207
I know we'll be watching
01:24:51.047 --> 01:24:52.789
bracket games and doing fun
01:24:52.810 --> 01:24:54.131
shit like that this weekend.
01:24:55.671 --> 01:24:56.953
Spring ball going on.
01:24:59.779 --> 01:25:00.179
I mean,
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:02.078
we probably could talk another hour
01:25:02.219 --> 01:25:02.579
on that,
01:25:02.659 --> 01:25:03.800
but I'm going to hold that
01:25:04.140 --> 01:25:06.220
because we got a guest
01:25:06.240 --> 01:25:06.961
coming in a few weeks.
01:25:06.980 --> 01:25:08.240
We're going to talk all about it.
01:25:09.502 --> 01:25:10.641
But I think the thing I want
01:25:10.662 --> 01:25:13.563
to point out real quick, Gunnar Givens,
01:25:13.603 --> 01:25:15.143
Lamar Law goes from the
01:25:15.182 --> 01:25:16.963
defensive line to the offensive line.
01:25:17.923 --> 01:25:19.144
Probably the biggest thing
01:25:19.184 --> 01:25:21.164
that I saw in the,
01:25:21.244 --> 01:25:22.904
as far as depth chart goes, I don't,
01:25:23.085 --> 01:25:24.666
nothing else really jumped out to me.
01:25:25.546 --> 01:25:26.587
Maybe it should have.
01:25:26.707 --> 01:25:28.106
Maybe I just was sitting
01:25:28.146 --> 01:25:30.529
there like this is what I expected.
01:25:30.948 --> 01:25:33.869
I mean, they talked about one of the guys,
01:25:33.909 --> 01:25:34.930
maybe it was Andy today,
01:25:35.511 --> 01:25:38.972
like the first four, Nias, Kamari, Fuga,
01:25:39.573 --> 01:25:42.314
and Gilliam.
01:25:43.175 --> 01:25:44.115
Gilliam, thank you.
01:25:44.996 --> 01:25:50.779
I just like so like, okay,
01:25:51.819 --> 01:25:54.680
that's what we expected, you know.
01:25:55.266 --> 01:25:55.467
Yeah.
01:25:56.430 --> 01:25:57.493
I think that's good.
01:25:57.554 --> 01:25:59.158
I've seen that, uh, you know,
01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:00.923
Montana is Cunningham working, uh,
01:26:02.692 --> 01:26:04.613
Working with the second team right now,
01:26:04.712 --> 01:26:05.632
but we'll see how that
01:26:05.672 --> 01:26:07.752
evolves as camp moves
01:26:07.792 --> 01:26:10.054
forward for spring practice here.
01:26:10.173 --> 01:26:13.635
But I think the biggest news, again,
01:26:13.694 --> 01:26:14.854
is going to be that those
01:26:14.895 --> 01:26:16.614
position switches for Law and Givens.
01:26:17.996 --> 01:26:19.136
Hoping to see Givens kind of
01:26:19.155 --> 01:26:19.876
put things together,
01:26:19.996 --> 01:26:20.935
put the pieces together.
01:26:20.956 --> 01:26:23.976
Getting him on the side of
01:26:23.997 --> 01:26:24.756
the ball where he probably
01:26:24.777 --> 01:26:25.618
should have started if it
01:26:25.658 --> 01:26:27.457
wasn't for depth necessity
01:26:27.478 --> 01:26:29.698
at the time his recruiting
01:26:29.738 --> 01:26:30.838
class came on board.
01:26:31.559 --> 01:26:32.881
Y'all said it a few minutes ago,
01:26:32.902 --> 01:26:34.125
roster mismanagement.
01:26:35.807 --> 01:26:36.590
My God.
01:26:36.670 --> 01:26:38.713
And thankfully,
01:26:38.755 --> 01:26:40.679
the portal helped shore up some of that.
01:26:41.552 --> 01:26:43.012
this off season and we still
01:26:43.033 --> 01:26:44.054
got to keep back feeling,
01:26:44.073 --> 01:26:44.913
but I think that, you know,
01:26:44.934 --> 01:26:46.413
we at least kind of stopped
01:26:46.453 --> 01:26:49.574
the bleeding on that position group.
01:26:49.774 --> 01:26:50.835
So that's good to see
01:26:51.635 --> 01:26:52.876
because when he came on, I mean,
01:26:53.176 --> 01:26:54.376
let's talk about it real quick.
01:26:54.496 --> 01:26:56.837
It wasn't as easy as, okay, well, you know,
01:26:56.856 --> 01:26:57.636
we ended up having,
01:26:57.657 --> 01:26:59.476
we ended up having
01:26:59.516 --> 01:27:01.837
Kendrick's and Pollard for 2023.
01:27:01.837 --> 01:27:02.757
That was not always expected for,
01:27:06.618 --> 01:27:07.600
when those decisions were
01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:09.400
made in 2022 we thought we
01:27:09.421 --> 01:27:10.341
wouldn't have pollard we
01:27:10.360 --> 01:27:11.981
wouldn't have kendrick's uh
01:27:12.002 --> 01:27:12.921
we thought pain was going
01:27:12.942 --> 01:27:13.962
to be gone because he only
01:27:14.002 --> 01:27:15.104
had one year left but then
01:27:15.123 --> 01:27:15.823
he ended up having the
01:27:15.904 --> 01:27:17.045
injury that kind of pushed
01:27:17.085 --> 01:27:19.145
that back a year so we were
01:27:19.206 --> 01:27:20.626
in a very very different
01:27:20.666 --> 01:27:23.828
situation you know late
01:27:23.828 --> 01:27:26.448
2022 than we were right now
01:27:26.670 --> 01:27:28.430
we can actually afford to
01:27:28.451 --> 01:27:30.011
make those shuffles uh that
01:27:30.051 --> 01:27:30.811
we really couldn't afford
01:27:30.832 --> 01:27:34.854
to do at that point so
01:27:35.815 --> 01:27:36.676
There you go.
01:27:36.796 --> 01:27:38.878
And that's the things that are happening.
01:27:39.418 --> 01:27:40.279
Y'all want a good laugh?
01:27:40.300 --> 01:27:41.320
Look at the UVA score.
01:27:41.341 --> 01:27:42.442
Oh, I saw.
01:27:42.462 --> 01:27:45.985
Yeah, I seen it a little bit ago.
01:27:46.086 --> 01:27:48.046
I think B Fish tweeted about it,
01:27:48.087 --> 01:27:51.250
and then I seen it.
01:27:51.350 --> 01:27:53.271
That 10-minute scoring drought is a bitch.
01:27:54.613 --> 01:27:54.753
Well,
01:27:54.774 --> 01:27:56.354
they had only scored like two out of
01:27:56.395 --> 01:27:56.996
halftime.
01:27:58.386 --> 01:27:59.846
I think if you look at both,
01:27:59.926 --> 01:28:02.668
it might be almost a 15 to
01:28:02.668 --> 01:28:04.229
20 minute scoring drought.
01:28:04.409 --> 01:28:04.930
They crazy.
01:28:04.970 --> 01:28:06.712
I don't know what's going on with them.
01:28:08.493 --> 01:28:09.555
They don't understand.
01:28:09.574 --> 01:28:11.055
Y'all got anything else you
01:28:11.095 --> 01:28:12.117
want to talk about tonight, boys?
01:28:12.157 --> 01:28:13.658
Anything that's crossed your mind?
01:28:14.037 --> 01:28:15.618
If you have not went and
01:28:15.699 --> 01:28:19.101
seen the picture of Aiden
01:28:19.122 --> 01:28:20.783
Green with his shirt off flexing,
01:28:21.965 --> 01:28:22.625
go find it.
01:28:22.925 --> 01:28:23.945
I don't know who posted it.
01:28:24.926 --> 01:28:25.728
There's a picture of
01:28:26.679 --> 01:28:28.319
of some of the younger wide receivers.
01:28:29.661 --> 01:28:30.621
And Aiden Green has his
01:28:30.661 --> 01:28:31.721
shirt off and he flexing.
01:28:32.761 --> 01:28:33.162
Big boy.
01:28:35.722 --> 01:28:36.663
BML.
01:28:37.104 --> 01:28:37.564
No homo.
01:28:37.583 --> 01:28:38.244
He done leveled up.
01:28:40.926 --> 01:28:42.766
He look like a statue, man.
01:28:43.386 --> 01:28:45.007
Like I thought he was a skinny kid.
01:28:45.488 --> 01:28:45.847
Hold on.
01:28:45.887 --> 01:28:46.309
Wait a sec.
01:28:46.708 --> 01:28:47.088
You can't.
01:28:47.109 --> 01:28:48.430
This is just a tease because
01:28:48.510 --> 01:28:49.569
after spring game is the
01:28:49.609 --> 01:28:52.011
BMF award from Jonathan.
01:28:52.030 --> 01:28:52.792
Man, listen.
01:28:53.072 --> 01:28:53.612
I'm telling you.
01:28:53.712 --> 01:28:54.773
Aiden Green look like a
01:28:56.158 --> 01:28:58.239
Greek statue, man, on that picture.
01:28:58.260 --> 01:28:59.400
It might have been Photoshopped.
01:28:59.820 --> 01:29:01.162
I know they say he can do AI
01:29:01.181 --> 01:29:01.802
and all that stuff.
01:29:01.823 --> 01:29:03.262
Man, that boy got muscle everywhere.
01:29:04.043 --> 01:29:05.864
You say he's on the BMF watch list?
01:29:06.524 --> 01:29:07.506
BMF watch list.
01:29:07.886 --> 01:29:08.567
I'm telling you, man,
01:29:08.606 --> 01:29:09.967
I know we're getting out of here,
01:29:10.007 --> 01:29:11.448
but spring ball is here.
01:29:11.849 --> 01:29:13.009
It's time to get excited.
01:29:13.029 --> 01:29:14.970
This is going to be a great season.
01:29:16.631 --> 01:29:20.313
My boy Brody is in that number six.
01:29:21.073 --> 01:29:21.853
You know what I'm saying?
01:29:21.893 --> 01:29:23.234
I've been seeing pictures
01:29:23.293 --> 01:29:24.654
and watching them run
01:29:24.713 --> 01:29:26.135
routes with the number six on.
01:29:26.154 --> 01:29:28.136
We got Chaz Wiggins at number seven.
01:29:28.916 --> 01:29:29.176
Hey,
01:29:29.756 --> 01:29:31.457
the wide receiver room is looking good
01:29:31.476 --> 01:29:31.896
right now.
01:29:32.176 --> 01:29:32.936
You know what I'm saying?
01:29:34.018 --> 01:29:36.859
We got some good shit going on.
01:29:36.899 --> 01:29:37.479
Look at Robbie.
01:29:37.519 --> 01:29:38.219
Look at Robbie.
01:29:38.238 --> 01:29:39.460
Talking about parlays.
01:29:39.500 --> 01:29:40.659
Robbie hit a parlay tonight.
01:29:41.341 --> 01:29:44.042
Robbie been on the side here lately,
01:29:44.101 --> 01:29:45.261
so he finally hit one.
01:29:46.636 --> 01:29:48.198
Hey, by the way, other thing,
01:29:48.438 --> 01:29:49.198
and I'm sure we'll talk
01:29:49.238 --> 01:29:51.018
about a little bit more next week,
01:29:51.057 --> 01:29:51.838
Fontel Mines.
01:29:52.958 --> 01:29:53.738
Man.
01:29:53.798 --> 01:29:54.840
That's big.
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:56.640
I wanted to get that with Dwight.
01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:58.461
Doing what you got to do to
01:29:58.501 --> 01:29:59.801
keep your guy in house, too.
01:29:59.860 --> 01:30:01.122
I mean, that's important.
01:30:01.822 --> 01:30:03.141
That's taking care of your own.
01:30:03.822 --> 01:30:06.922
That's making sure that you
01:30:06.962 --> 01:30:08.024
keep the talent where the
01:30:08.064 --> 01:30:09.163
talent is and you keep the
01:30:09.203 --> 01:30:09.923
talent coming in.
01:30:09.944 --> 01:30:09.923
100%.
01:30:12.085 --> 01:30:12.645
Yep.
01:30:13.765 --> 01:30:13.886
It's 100%.
01:30:14.445 --> 01:30:15.286
Smart-ass move.
01:30:16.707 --> 01:30:17.948
I mean, hey, you know,
01:30:18.009 --> 01:30:19.128
Dwight said it earlier,
01:30:19.168 --> 01:30:20.130
and we're going to wrap up.
01:30:20.149 --> 01:30:20.850
I'm going to kind of try to
01:30:20.869 --> 01:30:21.750
wrap up on this note.
01:30:22.411 --> 01:30:23.511
Frank Beamer had laid the
01:30:23.530 --> 01:30:25.452
blueprint 30-plus years ago.
01:30:26.492 --> 01:30:28.073
All the blueprint needed was
01:30:28.113 --> 01:30:31.295
an updating to the modern times.
01:30:33.074 --> 01:30:34.655
Dust it off,
01:30:34.695 --> 01:30:36.197
put some infrastructure behind it.
01:30:37.537 --> 01:30:40.118
And every little while, everything,
01:30:40.658 --> 01:30:41.719
it hasn't been a quick.
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:43.720
It unfortunately hasn't been quick,
01:30:44.220 --> 01:30:45.860
but it's everything is a little step
01:30:46.877 --> 01:30:49.979
little rung, little step hit every piece,
01:30:50.038 --> 01:30:50.279
right?
01:30:51.038 --> 01:30:52.020
And it was nice the back
01:30:52.060 --> 01:30:53.180
half of last season taking
01:30:53.220 --> 01:30:54.220
two steps at a time.
01:30:54.981 --> 01:30:56.182
Yep, exactly.
01:30:57.162 --> 01:31:00.824
And as Frank built the house, man,
01:31:00.944 --> 01:31:02.605
all Fuente had to come in
01:31:02.645 --> 01:31:03.487
and do was paint it.
01:31:04.506 --> 01:31:06.588
But this motherfucker
01:31:06.609 --> 01:31:09.871
started putting outhouses in the backyard,
01:31:09.890 --> 01:31:14.052
trying to raise cattle back there.
01:31:14.292 --> 01:31:15.533
When he was on concrete,
01:31:16.689 --> 01:31:18.631
He had all type of bullshit going on.
01:31:18.671 --> 01:31:20.393
So, but that's all right.
01:31:21.354 --> 01:31:22.475
What Chris say right there.
01:31:23.015 --> 01:31:24.657
And probably we trust how we trust.
01:31:25.078 --> 01:31:25.997
And that wraps up this
01:31:26.059 --> 01:31:28.801
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Also,
01:32:18.661 --> 01:32:21.341
check out his live event page where
01:32:21.421 --> 01:32:22.622
he is going to be doing
01:32:23.162 --> 01:32:24.082
quite a few things,
01:32:24.182 --> 01:32:24.963
always down at the Grand
01:32:24.984 --> 01:32:26.224
and Village Farmer's Market
01:32:26.323 --> 01:32:27.404
down in Roanoke.
01:32:28.145 --> 01:32:29.286
And in June,
01:32:29.305 --> 01:32:32.109
he has got a Harmony for Hope fundraiser,
01:32:32.149 --> 01:32:32.908
which is going to be at
01:32:32.989 --> 01:32:34.511
Mango's Bar and Grill.
01:32:34.650 --> 01:32:35.872
June 9th will be a little
01:32:35.952 --> 01:32:38.594
festival down on Moneta, Virginia.
01:32:38.613 --> 01:32:40.095
We'll get a little bit more info on that.
01:32:40.716 --> 01:32:41.155
All righty.
01:32:41.235 --> 01:32:44.359
So, y'all, I love talking with Dwight.
01:32:44.498 --> 01:32:45.159
And seriously.
01:32:46.500 --> 01:32:47.081
They'll tell you.
01:32:47.621 --> 01:32:48.402
If Dwight didn't have
01:32:48.442 --> 01:32:49.662
something he needed to get done,
01:32:49.722 --> 01:32:52.110
we'd probably be sitting here until 11,
01:32:52.110 --> 01:32:53.324
30, 12 o'clock talking to Dwight.
01:32:53.685 --> 01:32:53.985
Easy.
01:32:54.786 --> 01:32:55.087
Easy.
01:32:55.527 --> 01:32:55.867
I mean,
01:32:55.886 --> 01:32:58.429
we move fast and furious through
01:32:58.469 --> 01:33:00.631
some of those topics versus
01:33:00.650 --> 01:33:01.490
how we normally would.
01:33:01.671 --> 01:33:02.171
Oh, yeah.
01:33:03.072 --> 01:33:04.052
I'm glad we were able to get
01:33:04.073 --> 01:33:05.052
the content we did.
01:33:05.073 --> 01:33:07.493
Dwight is a great guest always.
01:33:08.055 --> 01:33:08.875
He brings it.
01:33:09.095 --> 01:33:10.135
He's got the facts.
01:33:10.175 --> 01:33:11.256
He's got the knowledge.
01:33:12.036 --> 01:33:14.577
And he's super connected.
01:33:14.596 --> 01:33:15.877
So, I mean, he really knows.
01:33:15.898 --> 01:33:17.698
He's got the nose to the grindstone,
01:33:17.738 --> 01:33:18.618
boots on the ground.
01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:20.960
It's always great
01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:21.841
information when Dwight
01:33:21.881 --> 01:33:23.900
comes on board with us.
01:33:23.921 --> 01:33:23.900
100%.
01:33:24.221 --> 01:33:25.822
We thank all 300-plus of
01:33:25.862 --> 01:33:27.842
y'all who have been with us all night.
01:33:27.922 --> 01:33:29.043
Really appreciate that.
01:33:29.363 --> 01:33:30.444
We thank y'all for listening.
01:33:30.503 --> 01:33:31.685
And as always, let's go.
01:33:32.489 --> 01:33:33.016
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