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And welcome back to the

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Boundary Corner podcast

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along with my partners Brian Sigla,

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Jonathan Talley, and Shelton Moss.

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I am Curtis Wilson and this

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week's Spring Game Preview.

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Boy,

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it's been a long time since it's been

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all four of us.

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How has everybody been?

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Hey, living the dream, man.

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Living the dream.

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Busy.

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Shelton is not only busy.

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Shelton is crisscrossing

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this country from Florida to Texas.

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Where else have you been in

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the last few weeks, Shelton?

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We've been to, let's see, Raleigh.

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We've been to NC State.

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We've been to South Carolina, Columbia.

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So we've been kind of all over the place.

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Been to Longwood last week.

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So I've been everywhere, man.

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He has been everywhere.

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Tally,

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you've been everywhere in the state

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of Alabama the last few weeks, right?

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A couple of places.

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Work, man.

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It ain't nothing to it but to do it.

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Work, work, work.

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Well, as long as they write the checks,

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right?

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Yeah, man, but I'm upset, man.

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I ain't going to be there this weekend.

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I was looking forward to it.

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So Brian got to ride solo.

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I'm holding down the fort

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for the BCP crew.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Tally, you got a fan on here?

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Some of the Felton family

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hollering at you.

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Hey.

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We appreciate it.

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We appreciate it.

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We appreciate y'all popping in.

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Same with you, Mr. Drones, Mr. Drones.

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Well, boys,

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we do have a lot to unload tonight.

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We are going to get into the

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spring game preview in just

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a little while.

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But over the last few weeks,

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there has been some

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movement within the hoop strength.

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We hit it here and there the

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last couple weeks,

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trying to hold off and see

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how many pieces of the

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puzzle would fall out.

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And as far as the women's side go,

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we do finally have a new

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coach after Kenny Brooks'

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departure to Kentucky,

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and that individual is Megan Duffy.

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She had been at Marquette

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the last four years,

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where three of the last

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four years she led the

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Marquette Golden Eagles in

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the Big East to the NCAA tournament.

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I would say that's pretty impressive,

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knowing that that's a Big

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East women's program, not named UConn.

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So...

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Shelton went deep diving a

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little bit on her today.

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So we're going to let him

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answer a few questions.

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And obviously Tally, Brian,

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y'all get what y'all think

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of her reader background.

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She's literally our age.

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I think she's 39.

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So, you know, close to our age,

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but Shelton,

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she had two stops prior to here.

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I'll let you advise what that is.

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But when you kind of looked at the data,

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what is it telling you about those stops?

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And then how did she bring

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that level of success to

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Marquette of making three

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out of four NCAA tournaments?

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Yeah, well,

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she did a really good job at Marquette.

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Um, she made three out of four NCAAs.

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Like you said,

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it would have been four out of five,

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if not for COVID because that team,

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that COVID team would have

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absolutely made the, um,

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the tournament.

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I'm trying to pull my notes here.

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Give me one sec.

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But yeah.

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And then, and then the one,

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the one season they didn't make it,

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they were, they were a bubble team that,

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you know, could have made it.

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They made the NIT, the WNIT.

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Um, so really good resume.

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I think she won about 70% of

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her games there.

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Um,

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And, you know,

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she came from Miami of Ohio

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where she won 69 percent of

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her games and made the WNIT

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twice there as well.

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So she's a really consistent winner.

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I mean,

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that's all she's done is just one game.

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She has not eluding a losing

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season as a head coach.

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And, you know,

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typically Marquette looking

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at the Massey ratings,

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which is sort of like a

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Kempon equivalent for women's basketball.

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You know, they were typically top 40,

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50 and had one season of

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being around top 30 or so.

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So, you know,

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she she did inherit a very

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good team and a very good program.

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But most importantly,

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she was able to sustain that success.

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It wasn't like some flash in

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the pan where you inherit a

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good players from the

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previous head coach.

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And the coach that preceded

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her went to Penn State,

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and she has not done a very good job.

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So I think it goes to show

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that just because you

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inherit a good situation

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doesn't necessarily mean

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you're going to succeed.

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And she's done that,

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especially in the portal era.

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Being able to sustain that

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success is really impressive.

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So big picture,

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I think when I look at her success there,

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She did not have the highest ceiling,

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but she did have a very, very high floor.

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So I think Virginia Tech is

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in a very good spot.

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I think she's going to make

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them a consistently competitive program.

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She's going to put a very

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good product on the court year in,

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year out.

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Now,

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can they get to the level that they

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were the past couple of

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seasons that Kenny Brooks had Tech at?

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maybe we'll see.

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I certainly hope so.

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But one thing I can say for

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sure is that this,

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this hire was really good

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and she'll have tech competing night in,

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night out.

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And I think this is really

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the best hire that tech

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could have made really.

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So looking at it,

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you think like it should be

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able to consistently

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compete for ACC

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championships may not

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necessarily be elite eight

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final four every year type

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caliber that we saw the

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last couple of years with

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Kenny Brooks's career.

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Yeah.

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And the reality is, you know,

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it's really hard to make you lead it.

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It's really hard to make the final four.

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Like winning is just hard.

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It just is.

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I mean,

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when you look at Kenny's resume at JMU,

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you know,

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I think he had a stretch that

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his last three years where

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he went something like 54

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and three in his conference.

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So he I mean,

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he turned JMU into a

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powerhouse program at that level.

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And so I think it took him a

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few years to get that attack,

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but eventually he did.

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So, you know,

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obviously he's a great coach.

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When I look at Duffy, you know, it's,

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it's been much more like

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consistently good, solid results.

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Again, not so much, you know,

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making deep tournament runs,

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but they made it every year.

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And I think Marquette is, it's a solid job,

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but it's not, you know,

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it's not necessarily like

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the peak of women's

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basketball or anything.

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And Big East is probably, you know,

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behind the other power five

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conferences of women's basketball,

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unlike the men's side.

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So, you know,

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I think she did a really good

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job relative to program expectations.

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And there's every reason to

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believe that she will

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continue doing the same here at Tech.

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Yeah, I did a deep dive, too,

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on Miss Duffy.

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What did you say?

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Uh-oh for Curtis.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah, I did a deep dive, too, man.

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I went and looked at some images,

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and I watched her attire on the sideline.

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And she didn't look the same

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in that blue that she was

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sporting as when she came

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out with that maroon and

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that orange undershirt.

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Man, hey, she had them slim fit pants on.

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It hit different.

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Man, she had them stilettos on.

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I said, okay, Ms.

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Duff, hey,

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I don't know nothing about her

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coaching just yet, but I know, hey,

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she put that shit on in that presser,

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boy.

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She ready.

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She got style.

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She styled it up, man.

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She styled it up.

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She made that maroon and orange look good,

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so I'm not hating her.

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So, here's what we got so far.

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She's a consistent winner.

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She's never had a losing season.

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She's been coaching for seven years.

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Should have had four NCAA

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tournament appearances.

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And the Miami of Ohio, I mean,

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she was second both times.

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I'm assuming that's the MAAC,

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which they get one.

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So, unfortunately,

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nothing you can do there.

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She's got style.

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Her tally and his

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notification of watching her.

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Y'all got to go see that.

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Go look at that picture.

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All right.

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Tell me what you think.

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All right.

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I know.

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that she played at a very

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successful Notre Dame

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program where she was a

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nationally honored player

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of the year back in the early 2000s.

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So obviously Notre Dame,

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we know still a very strong

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program to this day.

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Now,

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We had Kenny where I felt

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like Kenny was the inside out.

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He's going to always have a,

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he's looking for a big body

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on the inside with shooters.

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What's her screen Shelton.

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What are we going to see?

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We're going to see something similar.

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We're going to see different.

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What does she like to do schematically?

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So I haven't studied her.

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Oh no.

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Look, we lost him.

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I had never seen that happen.

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He got out of here.

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No telling where he is.

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know yeah right back yeah

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that's uh what was having

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to release control of your cat

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I got ten different tabs up.

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Tabs going wild.

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Tabs going wild.

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All right.

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You were saying you didn't

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get a chance to look at schematically,

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but what does, like, the stats tell you?

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Did you get a chance to look at, like,

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points?

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Right, yeah, yeah.

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So, yeah,

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so that's something I'm going to look at.

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So I would say, generally speaking,

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they have been better

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defensively than offensively.

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So she's more of a

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defensive-minded head coach.

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True.

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you know they typically are

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around top 30 in defense um

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you know offense is a

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little bit lower in terms

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of these specifics I mean

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they're not you know sort

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of um kind of what we saw

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with kenny they're not like

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the in your face you know

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going to get like the sexy

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stats like steals and

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turnovers and and blocks

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and stuff like that but for

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the most part I mean they

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do a pretty good job of

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preventing um you know good

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shooting numbers um they're um

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Their offensive rating,

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which is points allowed for

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100 possessions last year,

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was 45th in the country,

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which is pretty solid.

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And then shooting percentage-wise,

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they're top 130.

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So pretty good system.

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I'm sure I can – we'll learn

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more as we go on.

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But I would say it's kind of

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– based on the numbers,

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it's kind of similar to

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what we saw the last couple

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years with Tech.

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It's much more of like a

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team defense-based style.

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Not going to get the

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turnovers or the blocks, but they will –

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Play good team defense,

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and you prevent you from

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hitting shots for the most part.

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Has anybody seen – has any

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portal movement happened?

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I know we've seen – we'll

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talk some on the men's in a

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few minutes here, but we know who left,

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but has anything happened

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as far as coming in?

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Because I know several of

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her players effectively got out.

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One, I think, leading scorer,

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leading rebounder was out.

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Right.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So Marquette had a couple decommits.

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No one is officially

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committed to Virginia Tech.

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And those commits were both, I believe,

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I believe they're four star recruits,

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if I'm not mistaken, but very,

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very highly touted,

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highly touted prospects for sure.

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So, um, I think if, uh,

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if Jeffy can bring them on, I mean,

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you got a pretty solid

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returning cast coming back.

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Um, I know, no,

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no Killian Amor and no Kayla King,

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but I mean, the thing is, can he get,

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can he did such a good job

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recruiting the last couple

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of cycles that even,

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even when you lose some of those players,

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like you still got a really

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good nucleus coming back.

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So, and, uh,

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and they got Hazleton as well

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as stick on the incoming freshmen.

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So overall, pretty, pretty solid, uh,

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situation to start with.

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Nice.

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Um,

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Brian, I think you slipped,

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did you slip the question

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in here you wanted to ask about?

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Yeah, I mean,

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and this might play into the

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schematics a little bit

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since you haven't really dove into that,

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but I just was curious, like,

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what type of players,

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if you're looking at those

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recruits that were on Marquette,

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some of the ones that were

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being recruited this cycle,

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what type of players does

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Duffy want to recruit for success?

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Let me flip their,

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flip this off for everyone's sake.

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Um, so I haven't looked into it too much.

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I don't, it's, it's annoying.

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They don't list the heights on the, uh,

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the roster.

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Um, yeah,

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I haven't looked into it too much,

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but there, I mean,

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I would say generally speaking, um,

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you know, they'll have some size,

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some length, some athleticism.

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Um, it's hard to,

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it's hard to square them up

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with some of the numbers

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you're looking at.

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Cause like, you know,

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when it's within like a single season,

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there's a lot of variation there.

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But I would guess based on

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some of their defensive acumen, you know,

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she recruits some pretty

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solid length and size and athleticism.

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But I'm sure I can dig into

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it a little bit more and

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have a more detailed answer

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for the next couple of weeks.

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But, yeah, overall, I mean,

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I'm just excited about the hire.

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Yeah,

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I think it's definitely – it kind of

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puts a little – at least in

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the short term, puts a nice little –

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little bandaid over the big

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wound that that that kind

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of came out with with Kenny moving on.

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And, you know,

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everything that happened

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with lives ahead of that.

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And then, you know, the transfers,

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I think this kind of

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settled everyone down a little bit.

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And I think saying, Okay, we can,

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we can still we still got a

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good foundation here.

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Let's build off of that and

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keep this thing moving.

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Yeah,

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I think the good thing is that it's

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very easy to rebuild your

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roster in basketball,

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especially with the portal now.

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I don't think this is going

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to be like a 2022 football

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situation where you're kind

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of building up from ground zero.

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That cupboard is not full,

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but it's also not barren either.

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They've got some pieces to work with.

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Yeah,

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that is very true with the pieces to

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work with.

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And there's another thing that I'll say,

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and y'all know I'm always

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thinking money sometimes,

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but y'all saw the contract.

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Y'all saw the contract.

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She is slightly under a

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million her first few years

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and slightly over in the years three,

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four and five.

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And, you know,

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y'all know my feelings towards that.

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Like paying.

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I mean, love Kenny Brooks.

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Love where he took us.

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Paying him two and a half to

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three million dollars.

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That is a lot of money for a

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women's basketball coach.

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That is a lot of money.

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Unless you're going to the

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final four every year or

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going to the championship every year,

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you do that.

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Sure.

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And y'all know right now

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with everything going on,

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we're now effectively putting,

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cause he was making 1.6 last year.

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What are we going to do with

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that? $800,000.

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Because, you know,

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and this is a little off topic.

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Tally, I think we sent it to you today.

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Shelton, I know you probably saw the news.

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We're about to sign a law in

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the state of Virginia where

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the school can pay the players.

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Doesn't need to be NIL Collectors anymore.

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What are you going to do

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with that $800,000?

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Go get you a book.

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Five-star running back.

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There you go.

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So now the question is,

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if she comes in at that

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salary and has a success,

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can she get paid more?

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Yes.

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But again, we will see that.

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Yeah,

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and I think we talked about it last

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week when we were talking

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about what this would look like.

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We thought that over the

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course of that additional contract,

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probably going to average

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about in the ballpark of

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that million that Kenny was

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when he kind of came in.

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So we're still kind of over

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the course of that contract,

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you're going to average

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about it right at that million level.

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But in the short term,

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you free up a little bit of money.

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in that department that can

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get allocated to

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potentially other areas

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that could garner more

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short-term success.

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So don't say areas.

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One, just say it, just say one area.

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But the other pieces,

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I think we all look in here and, you know,

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hearing what Sheldon's got

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to say about her is talking

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about the roster turnover,

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probably going to bring in

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a couple of her players.

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We're probably going to be

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right back in the

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tournament next year with

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her record of success.

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And it's like, okay, we're paying her,

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you know,

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$2 million less and we're in the

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same spot again.

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That's what you want.

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And that's kind of when I

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was looking at her coming in, I was like,

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very similar thoughts to Sheldon is that,

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you know,

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We don't really know where

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the ceiling is at this point.

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And I don't necessarily know

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that on paper it raises the ceiling,

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but it certainly keeps the floor as high,

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if not higher than what we

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had with Kenny.

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So I think that's probably

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the most reassuring thing

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at this point is that, you know,

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we're not going to see a

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fall off of the program.

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Yeah.

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Kind of how I looked at it too.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Kenny did a great job.

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coaching and recruiting, you know,

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taking a team to new heights.

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It's me.

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And development.

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And development, definitely.

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But me watching it,

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you know what I'm saying?

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Me watching through this

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year and looking at stuff

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like I thought for sure that, you know,

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Liz and Georgia will be gone anyway.

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You know what I mean?

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Like I thought.

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No matter what happened,

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they would be gone.

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I didn't think he was going

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to leave and that she was

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going to go to Kentucky.

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So when everybody was kind of freaking out,

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I thought both of them were going to the,

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you know, WNBA.

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But, you know,

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it's like I thought that was

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the last we was going to

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see of them anyway.

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So it was kind of like

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definitely bittersweet to

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see her transfer and go somewhere else.

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But it's like I thought that

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was the last time I seen them, you know,

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play.

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for Virginia Tech anyway.

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I knew Georgia had another

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year of eligibility.

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I didn't think she was going to take it.

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It's hard with the WNBA

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because right now most

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collegiate women basketball

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players can make more if

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they're playing at a very

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high level can make more in

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college than they can in the WNBA alone.

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Now,

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I know a lot of them are playing

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overseas and all these

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other things to supplement that.

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But in terms of just raw dollars, I mean,

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there's a lot more

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potential for a high level

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player in college than it

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is directly in the WNBA right now.

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And I think some of the

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ratings that we saw in the

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tournament kind of, you know,

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back that up.

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I mean,

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the college game is getting a lot

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more eyes on it right now

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than it ever has.

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And also significantly more

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than you see for the pro game.

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100%.

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All right.

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Well, before we jump into football,

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let's flip a little bit and

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talk about the men's game.

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Shelton informed us a little

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early this evening.

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He is going to be putting

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out an article on the key play,

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kind of taking an overall look at it.

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And so, Shelton,

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before we get into a couple

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of the points we want to hit here,

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what is, you know,

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what do you feel like you

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found out after doing this

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sort of research project

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about effectively the state

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of the basketball program?

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Yeah, well, a few things.

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I mean, if you want to talk, you know,

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kind of the micro picture,

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I think over the past couple of years,

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you know, the coaching staff,

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Mike Young has made some

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missteps with regards to

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roster management, retention,

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obviously losing, you know,

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Darius Maddox and Rodney Rice.

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You know,

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to what degree is he responsible

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for that?

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I mean, you can debate it,

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but it obviously hurt them.

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And, you know, in the macro picture,

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I think NIL has become

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increasingly a problem for

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the men's basketball side, just because,

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you know, Triumph is putting, you know,

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almost all the resources

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into the football side.

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And that's benefited from

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pride tremendously.

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But it's also come at the

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cost of men's basketball.

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So, you know,

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I've heard I've heard not

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great things about, you know,

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their their current overall

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spending numbers.

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And, you know, when I look at.

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I think what I was trying to

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do is really compare and

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contrast years two and

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three of the young era with

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years four and five,

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which is the last two.

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And when I do that,

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I think the biggest

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variable that's changed really is NIL,

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because I think this first

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couple of years, you sort of had this

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you know,

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scrappy roster with a bunch of

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lower rated kids like a

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Mutz or an Aluma or a

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Couture or a Sir Murphy.

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And they all kind of punched

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about their weight class

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and it was really good basketball.

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But the last few years,

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it just hasn't really been the same.

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They're getting some guys in

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that don't really fit.

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The evaluations haven't been great.

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It's kind of an odd,

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it's kind of an odd

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mishmash pieces that the

00:20:57.481 --> 00:20:58.502
roster just doesn't really,

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it doesn't look like a Mike

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Young roster really.

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And I know he's a great coach.

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I trust his evaluation skills, but,

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but something over the past

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couple of years,

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it just doesn't seem like

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it's real Mike Young basketball.

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And I would argue that NIL

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is a big part of that

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because I just don't think

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that they're getting the

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guys that they want to get.

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And so the question for Tech is,

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How much are they going to

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support the program?

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And for Young,

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I think he needs to embrace NIL more.

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I do.

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I know some people would

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dispute me on that and say

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it's out of their control.

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But he hasn't really said

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anything about NIL in two

00:21:29.723 --> 00:21:30.565
years of being our head

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coach and two years of NIL

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being a big thing, really.

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Whereas Brent Pryor has been

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talked about all the time.

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So, I think a few things need to happen.

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First, Tech has to reassess, you know,

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the support that they want

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to give the program.

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Young has to embrace NIL a

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little bit more.

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And he's got to make better

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roster decisions.

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I think it's that simple.

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So,

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I'm trying to balance all those two

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things at the same time.

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All righty.

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Well, now let's kind of hit this piece.

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And it's kind of been known, I mean –

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I'm going to give Mike Young

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a lot of credit because the

00:22:02.528 --> 00:22:03.950
team on the floor we had

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did not meet the

00:22:05.109 --> 00:22:07.230
expectations that a lot of

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us thought were happening.

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And instead of saying we're

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going to ride again with this same group,

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I mean, kids gone.

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Kids gone to Miami.

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Camden's gone.

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Padula's gone.

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MJ Collins is gone.

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Petit was out.

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Now he's back in.

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Tyler Nichols gone.

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I mean, y'all,

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I just mentioned a bunch of

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guys who played a lot of minutes,

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scored points, grabbed rebounds for us.

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Sheldon, when you were doing the deep dive,

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did you get a chance to

00:22:36.421 --> 00:22:39.182
look at this and kind of see why?

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Or is it going back to what

00:22:40.683 --> 00:22:42.605
you said that there's some

00:22:42.644 --> 00:22:44.346
mixed match pieces and was

00:22:44.385 --> 00:22:45.326
Mike Young just cleaning

00:22:45.346 --> 00:22:46.426
house because he knew it was time?

00:22:47.684 --> 00:22:48.767
Yeah, so, you know,

00:22:48.866 --> 00:22:49.788
people have criticized

00:22:49.847 --> 00:22:51.349
Young's retention in the past,

00:22:51.809 --> 00:22:53.011
I think maybe a little bit unfairly.

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This year is much different because,

00:22:55.015 --> 00:22:55.214
you know,

00:22:55.275 --> 00:22:56.496
Tech is losing a bunch of players that,

00:22:56.536 --> 00:22:58.558
you know, in some cases are starters,

00:22:58.598 --> 00:22:59.380
role players that they

00:22:59.420 --> 00:22:59.961
obviously want to have on

00:22:59.980 --> 00:23:00.642
the team next year.

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I think when I look at the, um,

00:23:02.951 --> 00:23:03.971
the portal exodus that

00:23:04.011 --> 00:23:04.913
happened a couple of weeks ago,

00:23:05.492 --> 00:23:06.834
it was almost entirely due

00:23:06.854 --> 00:23:07.634
to the fact that a lot of

00:23:07.674 --> 00:23:08.654
these guys want to see what

00:23:08.674 --> 00:23:09.536
their market value is.

00:23:10.096 --> 00:23:11.037
And so they're entering the portal,

00:23:11.057 --> 00:23:11.917
you know, they,

00:23:11.938 --> 00:23:12.718
they see what they can make

00:23:12.738 --> 00:23:13.378
at other schools.

00:23:14.318 --> 00:23:15.700
And if they don't like what they see,

00:23:16.181 --> 00:23:16.701
they'll come back.

00:23:16.861 --> 00:23:18.301
And so petite decided to come back.

00:23:18.883 --> 00:23:20.364
Collins decided he wanted to go elsewhere.

00:23:20.384 --> 00:23:22.645
Uh, nickel is almost certainly gone.

00:23:22.685 --> 00:23:23.645
I mean, I think he's probably going to get,

00:23:24.227 --> 00:23:25.288
he's going to get it back from someone.

00:23:25.307 --> 00:23:25.548
I don't know.

00:23:25.567 --> 00:23:26.327
I don't know who it's going to be,

00:23:26.347 --> 00:23:27.689
but he's, you know, he's not coming back.

00:23:27.709 --> 00:23:28.470
Padula's not coming back.

00:23:28.509 --> 00:23:29.750
I don't think, um,

00:23:30.419 --> 00:23:30.999
So, yeah,

00:23:31.038 --> 00:23:33.559
it's just right now they're just I mean,

00:23:33.579 --> 00:23:34.480
they're just not competitive.

00:23:34.740 --> 00:23:35.820
I don't want to sound like

00:23:35.861 --> 00:23:36.921
I'm making excuses for young.

00:23:36.941 --> 00:23:38.442
But when you're when you're, you know,

00:23:38.642 --> 00:23:39.602
NIL is this uncompetitive,

00:23:39.682 --> 00:23:40.382
it's just hard to retain

00:23:40.402 --> 00:23:40.902
players like that.

00:23:41.182 --> 00:23:42.663
And that being said, to your point, Curtis,

00:23:43.823 --> 00:23:44.782
I do think the guards in

00:23:44.803 --> 00:23:46.064
the wing kind of needed a makeover.

00:23:46.683 --> 00:23:47.503
Some of it is really good.

00:23:47.584 --> 00:23:50.224
I think I think Ivy Curry,

00:23:50.464 --> 00:23:51.325
the kid from UTSA,

00:23:51.425 --> 00:23:52.846
is a huge upgrade over Collins.

00:23:53.646 --> 00:23:55.509
And they also got Ben Burnham from CFC,

00:23:55.930 --> 00:23:56.730
who I think could be an

00:23:56.750 --> 00:23:57.951
upgrade over Robbie Barron as well.

00:23:58.353 --> 00:23:59.673
So to that extent, I think it's good.

00:24:00.035 --> 00:24:00.775
But at the same time,

00:24:01.096 --> 00:24:02.156
they've got one scholarship

00:24:02.176 --> 00:24:03.438
point guard on the roster next year,

00:24:04.298 --> 00:24:05.421
and it's Brandon Rechsteiner,

00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:06.541
who Young did not even

00:24:06.602 --> 00:24:07.403
trust to play this year.

00:24:08.003 --> 00:24:10.306
So they've got ways to go, man.

00:24:11.126 --> 00:24:12.128
It's not going to end right here.

00:24:12.169 --> 00:24:13.230
They've still got some work to do.

00:24:13.924 --> 00:24:14.125
Tally,

00:24:14.144 --> 00:24:15.246
I'm going to ask you a question

00:24:15.266 --> 00:24:17.268
because obviously – Don't do it.

00:24:18.028 --> 00:24:18.749
No.

00:24:18.888 --> 00:24:19.308
No, no, no.

00:24:19.368 --> 00:24:20.170
Here's my question.

00:24:21.069 --> 00:24:23.991
Of those six guys that were out,

00:24:24.053 --> 00:24:25.534
now it's five because, you know,

00:24:25.973 --> 00:24:27.255
Petit back is obviously

00:24:27.275 --> 00:24:28.135
going to be on the bench.

00:24:30.958 --> 00:24:32.759
Who were you most shocked by?

00:24:32.798 --> 00:24:34.941
Like, who didn't you want to lose?

00:24:35.181 --> 00:24:37.182
Like, man, like – I like Tyler Nichol.

00:24:37.382 --> 00:24:38.762
I think Tyler Nichol brought – yeah,

00:24:38.803 --> 00:24:39.723
I think he just brought

00:24:39.743 --> 00:24:40.625
something a little bit different.

00:24:41.025 --> 00:24:42.286
But I feel like he was kind of –

00:24:43.580 --> 00:24:43.901
Again,

00:24:43.941 --> 00:24:45.642
watching Mike Gillum play basketball

00:24:45.662 --> 00:24:46.922
reminds me of a coach that,

00:24:46.942 --> 00:24:49.002
I'm not saying he's not a good coach,

00:24:49.423 --> 00:24:51.603
but he seems like a systems coach.

00:24:52.182 --> 00:24:54.644
So it's a certain system

00:24:54.663 --> 00:24:55.703
that you have to play in.

00:24:55.743 --> 00:24:56.684
And some players just,

00:24:57.144 --> 00:24:58.384
like if you go watch AAU

00:24:58.404 --> 00:24:59.365
basketball nowadays,

00:24:59.444 --> 00:25:01.405
it's all like freelancing.

00:25:01.865 --> 00:25:02.925
Tyler Nichols seems like a

00:25:02.965 --> 00:25:04.346
kid that plays like that.

00:25:04.926 --> 00:25:05.528
you know what I'm saying

00:25:05.548 --> 00:25:06.488
just you know kind of you

00:25:06.508 --> 00:25:07.328
have to give him the ball

00:25:07.368 --> 00:25:08.730
in space and let him do

00:25:08.769 --> 00:25:10.070
some things or you know let

00:25:10.111 --> 00:25:12.511
him shoot uh mike young he

00:25:12.531 --> 00:25:13.432
has a certain system that

00:25:13.472 --> 00:25:15.493
he runs and some people fit

00:25:15.535 --> 00:25:16.474
good in that some people

00:25:16.515 --> 00:25:17.316
don't you know what I'm

00:25:17.336 --> 00:25:18.517
saying like yeah yeah

00:25:18.936 --> 00:25:20.877
justin mutts fit good in

00:25:20.917 --> 00:25:22.138
that system for for young

00:25:22.179 --> 00:25:23.980
you know uh grant bazilly

00:25:24.161 --> 00:25:25.320
he fit good in that system

00:25:25.340 --> 00:25:27.942
like he likes those six

00:25:29.412 --> 00:25:30.011
eight, six,

00:25:30.071 --> 00:25:31.833
nine center-type players that

00:25:31.873 --> 00:25:33.273
can move out and shoot the three.

00:25:33.334 --> 00:25:35.535
But, you know, when you got a four,

00:25:35.595 --> 00:25:37.556
it needs to be a stretch four.

00:25:38.056 --> 00:25:39.696
But your five is a stretch five.

00:25:39.757 --> 00:25:40.778
Like, where do they play?

00:25:41.298 --> 00:25:42.459
So that system kind of

00:25:42.719 --> 00:25:43.578
doesn't work together.

00:25:43.919 --> 00:25:45.039
So, like Sheldon said,

00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:46.520
I feel like it's kind of

00:25:47.681 --> 00:25:48.922
been a mismatch of players.

00:25:49.001 --> 00:25:52.323
And then with his guard play, I think,

00:25:53.243 --> 00:25:53.503
I mean,

00:25:53.523 --> 00:25:54.484
Sheldon hit the nail on the head

00:25:54.505 --> 00:25:55.105
when he said, like,

00:25:55.164 --> 00:25:57.105
the people that he brought in really,

00:25:57.185 --> 00:25:57.365
like,

00:25:58.099 --> 00:25:59.344
Punched above their weight class.

00:25:59.365 --> 00:26:00.248
When you look at Storm

00:26:00.288 --> 00:26:02.153
Murphy and some of the other guards,

00:26:02.255 --> 00:26:02.876
you can't be...

00:26:03.819 --> 00:26:06.281
for all the shit that the ACC takes,

00:26:06.801 --> 00:26:08.583
the ACC basketball,

00:26:08.623 --> 00:26:10.503
the guards in the ACC are

00:26:10.604 --> 00:26:12.005
usually pretty big physical

00:26:12.065 --> 00:26:14.106
guards and are very athletic.

00:26:14.727 --> 00:26:17.229
Our guards have not been that.

00:26:17.808 --> 00:26:19.789
We haven't been going and getting it.

00:26:19.829 --> 00:26:20.671
When we do get it,

00:26:21.431 --> 00:26:22.852
it doesn't come together so

00:26:22.872 --> 00:26:24.313
we can see what it looks like.

00:26:25.773 --> 00:26:26.755
I've been disappointed.

00:26:26.875 --> 00:26:28.695
I've been disappointed not

00:26:28.776 --> 00:26:30.416
with Mike Young or the team,

00:26:30.836 --> 00:26:31.458
but just like

00:26:32.912 --> 00:26:34.012
The system that he's trying

00:26:34.032 --> 00:26:35.013
to run in the ACC,

00:26:35.054 --> 00:26:37.234
I just don't think that you

00:26:37.255 --> 00:26:38.916
can have longevity and

00:26:39.037 --> 00:26:40.738
success with that kind of system.

00:26:41.439 --> 00:26:43.700
That's a Wofford system.

00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:45.682
He's got to change some stuff up.

00:26:46.541 --> 00:26:46.803
I mean,

00:26:46.843 --> 00:26:50.505
I haven't done a whole bunch of

00:26:50.925 --> 00:26:53.548
research on the kid, the Curry kid, but

00:26:54.150 --> 00:26:54.851
You see Kevin,

00:26:55.290 --> 00:26:56.712
he's down from where Kevin's from.

00:26:56.772 --> 00:26:59.076
Kevin, as soon as we got him, Kevin said,

00:26:59.135 --> 00:27:01.898
you know, that kid can play, you know.

00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:03.941
So I got to do a little bit

00:27:03.961 --> 00:27:06.163
of research to see what he looks like.

00:27:06.223 --> 00:27:06.683
But, I mean,

00:27:06.704 --> 00:27:07.806
you got to get you some bigger

00:27:07.865 --> 00:27:10.189
guards to be able to match

00:27:10.269 --> 00:27:11.269
up with some of these guys

00:27:11.309 --> 00:27:13.011
that you're going to go against, you know,

00:27:13.071 --> 00:27:13.893
day in and day out,

00:27:13.932 --> 00:27:14.634
night in and night out.

00:27:15.224 --> 00:27:17.207
Yeah, bigger guards, more athleticism.

00:27:17.227 --> 00:27:21.151
I think the ability to get

00:27:21.191 --> 00:27:23.614
your own shot a little more consistently,

00:27:23.673 --> 00:27:25.296
I feel like we've lacked

00:27:25.316 --> 00:27:26.676
some of that ability as well,

00:27:26.717 --> 00:27:27.718
especially on the wing and

00:27:27.738 --> 00:27:28.618
at the guard position.

00:27:28.679 --> 00:27:32.583
So I'd like to see more of

00:27:32.643 --> 00:27:34.645
that in terms of the guys

00:27:34.665 --> 00:27:35.346
we're bringing in.

00:27:35.405 --> 00:27:35.767
And I think

00:27:36.487 --> 00:27:37.468
The unfortunate thing is

00:27:37.488 --> 00:27:38.588
that you felt like we had

00:27:38.648 --> 00:27:41.951
some of that in these last couple classes,

00:27:42.053 --> 00:27:42.913
three classes,

00:27:43.012 --> 00:27:44.674
that most of that talent is

00:27:44.714 --> 00:27:45.776
now playing on some other

00:27:45.816 --> 00:27:48.598
team for one reason or another.

00:27:48.699 --> 00:27:50.119
So I think that's the more

00:27:50.180 --> 00:27:51.560
frustrating part from my

00:27:51.601 --> 00:27:54.844
perspective is trying to reconcile that,

00:27:54.903 --> 00:27:55.125
right?

00:27:55.664 --> 00:27:56.945
You know what threw me for a loop,

00:27:56.965 --> 00:27:57.787
like out of everything

00:27:57.826 --> 00:27:58.647
that's happened since Mike

00:27:58.688 --> 00:27:59.348
Young been here?

00:28:00.169 --> 00:28:01.810
Why did Grant Baziga lead a country?

00:28:03.202 --> 00:28:04.544
Like, what?

00:28:04.864 --> 00:28:06.566
He just was like, I need to get away.

00:28:06.586 --> 00:28:08.567
He went to Italy, man.

00:28:09.127 --> 00:28:10.989
You heard about the food over there?

00:28:11.009 --> 00:28:12.970
Yeah, he said, fuck it, I'm out.

00:28:12.990 --> 00:28:13.990
The money he can make

00:28:14.070 --> 00:28:15.092
playing internationally

00:28:15.132 --> 00:28:17.213
compared to the NIL that we can offer,

00:28:17.253 --> 00:28:17.634
apparently.

00:28:17.874 --> 00:28:19.454
He said, I'm gone.

00:28:19.796 --> 00:28:20.336
That's what it is.

00:28:20.375 --> 00:28:20.977
Go to Italy.

00:28:20.997 --> 00:28:22.498
I'm going to eat good food,

00:28:22.557 --> 00:28:24.799
and I'm going to get paid

00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:25.059
$375,000 a year.

00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:26.300
I need to look at it.

00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:27.240
Mediterranean climate.

00:28:27.622 --> 00:28:28.602
I need to look it up and see

00:28:28.642 --> 00:28:29.163
how he's doing.

00:28:30.327 --> 00:28:31.328
I probably good.

00:28:31.950 --> 00:28:34.172
It was definitely a miss this year.

00:28:34.692 --> 00:28:35.873
Can we say this though?

00:28:36.634 --> 00:28:38.675
You talked about Ivy Curry

00:28:38.715 --> 00:28:40.998
already and how he's different.

00:28:41.077 --> 00:28:42.019
Kevin mentioned on there,

00:28:42.058 --> 00:28:43.039
Kevin and William mentioned

00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:44.080
he's a bucket on there.

00:28:45.301 --> 00:28:46.142
And then you got Burnham

00:28:46.182 --> 00:28:46.962
coming up from COC.

00:28:48.243 --> 00:28:49.164
Is that Bo's brother?

00:28:50.665 --> 00:28:51.306
No, God.

00:28:52.346 --> 00:28:52.707
Fine.

00:28:52.747 --> 00:28:53.587
Just, just.

00:28:54.087 --> 00:28:57.009
But, you know, Mike,

00:28:57.049 --> 00:28:57.851
I got a cousin down in

00:28:57.891 --> 00:28:58.770
Charleston and messaged me

00:28:58.790 --> 00:28:59.432
when he transferred.

00:28:59.471 --> 00:28:59.832
He said,

00:28:59.852 --> 00:29:01.413
I don't know if he can handle ACC

00:29:01.472 --> 00:29:02.134
starting play,

00:29:02.213 --> 00:29:03.954
but he can definitely be your bitch.

00:29:04.996 --> 00:29:05.496
Six, seven.

00:29:05.816 --> 00:29:06.596
Tally looked at him,

00:29:06.616 --> 00:29:08.198
looked a little femsass, my young guy.

00:29:08.865 --> 00:29:10.026
Yeah, that's Mike Young.

00:29:10.046 --> 00:29:11.326
Mike Young right there.

00:29:11.586 --> 00:29:13.007
That's his guy.

00:29:13.366 --> 00:29:14.647
That's what he goes and recruits, man.

00:29:14.667 --> 00:29:15.868
That's what he brings in.

00:29:16.308 --> 00:29:18.109
But what I'm hearing is I

00:29:18.130 --> 00:29:19.089
think we all see some of

00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:22.332
the sets that Mike runs are successful.

00:29:23.153 --> 00:29:24.492
Mike Young, to me,

00:29:25.114 --> 00:29:26.795
and it probably has to happen, Matt,

00:29:26.855 --> 00:29:28.394
over the next two to three years.

00:29:28.474 --> 00:29:31.717
It's like you can still run that system,

00:29:32.498 --> 00:29:34.318
but you have to start separating it,

00:29:34.358 --> 00:29:34.598
right?

00:29:34.618 --> 00:29:35.058
Yeah.

00:29:35.471 --> 00:29:37.073
Like you, Tally, Sheldon,

00:29:37.093 --> 00:29:37.814
y'all were mentioning,

00:29:38.233 --> 00:29:38.994
you've got to have guys

00:29:39.015 --> 00:29:39.855
that can just take over.

00:29:40.355 --> 00:29:42.076
You still have your set plays because,

00:29:42.136 --> 00:29:43.698
by God, I told my son,

00:29:43.917 --> 00:29:46.019
we watched a bunch of the NCAA,

00:29:46.099 --> 00:29:47.461
and somebody called a timeout,

00:29:47.800 --> 00:29:48.621
and I tell him, I'm like,

00:29:48.781 --> 00:29:49.602
watch his set play.

00:29:49.622 --> 00:29:50.122
It's going to come out,

00:29:50.143 --> 00:29:50.682
they're going to score a

00:29:50.722 --> 00:29:51.844
bucket in about six seconds.

00:29:51.923 --> 00:29:54.285
And every single time, set play, boom,

00:29:54.305 --> 00:29:54.506
boom.

00:29:55.125 --> 00:29:55.806
Three-pointer in.

00:29:56.166 --> 00:29:56.926
He's like, how did you know that?

00:29:56.946 --> 00:29:57.247
I'm like,

00:29:57.267 --> 00:29:58.867
it's the way college coaches run things.

00:29:59.388 --> 00:29:59.548
Like,

00:29:59.689 --> 00:30:01.569
they get them because you always see

00:30:01.589 --> 00:30:02.911
them take it after a big run.

00:30:02.951 --> 00:30:04.112
You know, you go down seven or eight.

00:30:04.192 --> 00:30:04.971
Hey, call the timeout.

00:30:04.991 --> 00:30:05.612
We're going to run a play.

00:30:05.632 --> 00:30:07.173
We're going to stop the run right here.

00:30:07.653 --> 00:30:09.654
He's got to develop and

00:30:09.694 --> 00:30:11.836
evolve into – it's okay to

00:30:11.855 --> 00:30:12.777
still have your system,

00:30:13.196 --> 00:30:14.417
but you've got to start

00:30:14.538 --> 00:30:15.838
looking for other things.

00:30:15.878 --> 00:30:16.578
And the question is,

00:30:16.719 --> 00:30:20.560
can he do that over the next few years?

00:30:20.781 --> 00:30:22.863
Tally, before we go any further –

00:30:24.769 --> 00:30:25.269
Just so,

00:30:26.471 --> 00:30:27.813
Eric here's got a question for you.

00:30:27.833 --> 00:30:28.593
Where'd you get the hat?

00:30:30.634 --> 00:30:31.516
What is it, Fanatics?

00:30:32.096 --> 00:30:32.215
Yeah,

00:30:32.256 --> 00:30:33.616
I think it's Fanatics is where I got

00:30:33.657 --> 00:30:34.018
it from.

00:30:35.739 --> 00:30:37.520
Most of the time, that's where, I mean,

00:30:37.560 --> 00:30:38.622
unless I go to Blacksburg

00:30:38.662 --> 00:30:39.162
and pick them up,

00:30:39.782 --> 00:30:41.403
I'm usually picking up stuff off there,

00:30:41.423 --> 00:30:42.865
but I stay online too much, man.

00:30:42.904 --> 00:30:45.688
If I see something, I just,

00:30:45.847 --> 00:30:47.409
my daughter taught me how to online shop,

00:30:47.449 --> 00:30:48.289
so I just grab it.

00:30:49.634 --> 00:30:50.074
Oh, man.

00:30:50.375 --> 00:30:52.256
Because we saw Tally yesterday.

00:30:52.296 --> 00:30:53.876
We had a little podcast

00:30:53.896 --> 00:30:56.979
session on our new network, effectively,

00:30:57.398 --> 00:30:58.398
and he had a different hat on.

00:30:58.419 --> 00:30:59.180
There was another Virginia

00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:00.221
Tech hat on yesterday.

00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.781
I mean, always.

00:31:04.163 --> 00:31:05.002
So, yeah.

00:31:05.364 --> 00:31:06.644
But anything else y'all want

00:31:06.663 --> 00:31:09.925
to hit as far as it goes with hoops?

00:31:11.426 --> 00:31:15.950
I feel like we can put it to rest.

00:31:16.069 --> 00:31:19.092
Are we going after Milk Chamberlain?

00:31:20.526 --> 00:31:20.726
No.

00:31:22.846 --> 00:31:23.586
Steph Blurry.

00:31:25.527 --> 00:31:27.086
I like that.

00:31:27.567 --> 00:31:28.827
Cream at Bujabar.

00:31:29.048 --> 00:31:29.667
Cream.

00:31:30.867 --> 00:31:32.107
I like the Sam.

00:31:33.848 --> 00:31:35.128
He's going to get some money

00:31:35.169 --> 00:31:36.548
from somebody.

00:31:36.990 --> 00:31:38.829
But by all means, Tally,

00:31:38.849 --> 00:31:39.549
you talk about it.

00:31:39.670 --> 00:31:40.589
You talk about a stretch

00:31:40.630 --> 00:31:42.270
five that can do that stuff.

00:31:43.171 --> 00:31:43.671
He fit.

00:31:44.929 --> 00:31:46.190
But the thing is with him is

00:31:46.230 --> 00:31:48.010
like he plays more of a –

00:31:48.010 --> 00:31:48.912
he is a stretch five,

00:31:48.951 --> 00:31:50.252
but he plays a little bit bigger too.

00:31:50.853 --> 00:31:52.213
Like I think more, you know,

00:31:52.233 --> 00:31:54.134
Mike Young's centers are

00:31:54.194 --> 00:31:55.455
like – he likes them to

00:31:55.496 --> 00:31:57.596
play a little bit less big

00:31:57.616 --> 00:31:58.877
than that kid does.

00:31:58.958 --> 00:32:00.239
But, I mean, I don't know.

00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:02.079
I'd like to see him in Blacksburg.

00:32:02.780 --> 00:32:04.301
I think he'd sell some tickets at least.

00:32:05.403 --> 00:32:05.903
Touche.

00:32:06.262 --> 00:32:06.482
Touche.

00:32:06.542 --> 00:32:07.683
All right.

00:32:07.703 --> 00:32:09.065
Sell some T-shirts and nothing else.

00:32:09.285 --> 00:32:09.905
And you know how many

00:32:09.925 --> 00:32:10.826
goggles – you know how many

00:32:10.846 --> 00:32:12.067
goggles them kids will go buy?

00:32:13.508 --> 00:32:14.729
Bought them goggles out, man.

00:32:16.548 --> 00:32:17.390
Let me ask y'all this,

00:32:17.589 --> 00:32:19.050
because we talked about it

00:32:19.070 --> 00:32:20.151
a little bit last night, and Shelton,

00:32:20.291 --> 00:32:21.571
we didn't get your opinion on it.

00:32:22.532 --> 00:32:23.874
How big of a deal is it,

00:32:24.173 --> 00:32:25.355
what's about to be passed

00:32:26.154 --> 00:32:28.696
here in Virginia with the NIL stuff?

00:32:28.757 --> 00:32:30.238
Because we got a chance to

00:32:30.278 --> 00:32:31.117
mention it last night,

00:32:31.157 --> 00:32:32.499
and we kind of know our own

00:32:32.538 --> 00:32:33.199
opinions on it,

00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:34.680
and y'all can check that out.

00:32:35.840 --> 00:32:36.701
What do you think of it?

00:32:37.021 --> 00:32:38.202
How big of a deal is it?

00:32:39.202 --> 00:32:40.243
I think it's awesome.

00:32:40.284 --> 00:32:41.565
I think Virginia's kind of

00:32:41.585 --> 00:32:42.805
getting a head start in this,

00:32:42.825 --> 00:32:43.266
being able to

00:32:44.471 --> 00:32:45.992
um to work to work the nil

00:32:46.012 --> 00:32:46.972
funds through the athletic

00:32:46.992 --> 00:32:48.034
department which is what I

00:32:48.054 --> 00:32:48.934
understand is going on here

00:32:49.775 --> 00:32:51.316
I feel like nil is such a

00:32:52.455 --> 00:32:53.957
it's such a weird shady

00:32:54.017 --> 00:32:54.738
concept where you've

00:32:54.778 --> 00:32:55.958
basically got this you know

00:32:56.238 --> 00:32:57.598
third-party slush fund all

00:32:57.638 --> 00:32:58.799
these you know the paying

00:32:58.839 --> 00:32:59.740
customers are are

00:32:59.859 --> 00:33:01.500
crowdsourcing essentially

00:33:01.520 --> 00:33:02.801
the the salaries of the

00:33:02.842 --> 00:33:03.622
players I mean no you can't

00:33:03.662 --> 00:33:04.542
say salary but like that's

00:33:04.563 --> 00:33:05.564
what it is you're paying

00:33:05.584 --> 00:33:07.044
guys essentially you know

00:33:07.064 --> 00:33:07.904
through advertisements

00:33:09.486 --> 00:33:10.645
And so we're putting, we're like, we're,

00:33:11.067 --> 00:33:11.207
we,

00:33:11.227 --> 00:33:12.488
the customers are footing the bill

00:33:12.528 --> 00:33:14.108
from not only the NIL stuff,

00:33:14.148 --> 00:33:16.029
but also the facilities, you know,

00:33:16.049 --> 00:33:17.290
the staffing, the operations budget,

00:33:17.310 --> 00:33:18.530
like it's all coming through donations.

00:33:18.550 --> 00:33:19.751
So it's like, what, I mean,

00:33:19.771 --> 00:33:20.332
what are we doing here?

00:33:20.392 --> 00:33:20.553
So I,

00:33:21.432 --> 00:33:22.473
my hope is that eventually in the

00:33:22.513 --> 00:33:25.675
future we can have some sort of, you know,

00:33:25.736 --> 00:33:26.756
revenue sharing collective

00:33:26.776 --> 00:33:27.436
bargaining type of model,

00:33:27.457 --> 00:33:28.297
because I think that's the

00:33:28.336 --> 00:33:30.179
only sustainable way, like asking,

00:33:30.318 --> 00:33:32.180
you know, the fans to, you know,

00:33:32.970 --> 00:33:34.010
donate on top of, you know,

00:33:34.030 --> 00:33:35.813
the facilities stuff, the NIL as well.

00:33:36.213 --> 00:33:37.194
And then having it operate

00:33:37.214 --> 00:33:38.977
through these collectives where, you know,

00:33:38.997 --> 00:33:40.337
they operate in complete secrecy.

00:33:40.377 --> 00:33:41.859
You don't know the exact numbers.

00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:42.580
You don't know where they're

00:33:42.601 --> 00:33:43.060
putting the money.

00:33:43.422 --> 00:33:44.522
They can decide to put it

00:33:44.542 --> 00:33:45.223
wherever they want to.

00:33:45.663 --> 00:33:46.444
It's just kind of a mess.

00:33:46.664 --> 00:33:47.787
So anything to get more

00:33:48.047 --> 00:33:49.127
clarity and transparency

00:33:49.167 --> 00:33:51.190
and funnel the fundraising

00:33:51.210 --> 00:33:52.211
efforts through the athletic department,

00:33:52.531 --> 00:33:53.353
I think would be a great thing.

00:33:55.153 --> 00:33:55.294
Yeah,

00:33:55.314 --> 00:33:56.795
and I think you'll see those

00:33:56.914 --> 00:33:58.135
collectives turn into more

00:33:58.175 --> 00:34:01.297
of like kind of the marketing arm,

00:34:01.597 --> 00:34:02.758
the arbiters,

00:34:03.178 --> 00:34:04.338
the go-betweens between

00:34:04.358 --> 00:34:06.859
those opportunities and the

00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:07.861
athletic department,

00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:10.382
not necessarily fully absorbed,

00:34:10.461 --> 00:34:12.182
but still kind of a partnership,

00:34:12.242 --> 00:34:13.543
but you don't necessarily

00:34:13.563 --> 00:34:14.483
have to have the money

00:34:14.605 --> 00:34:17.346
fully going into that avenue.

00:34:17.385 --> 00:34:20.148
It can be allocated to those

00:34:20.248 --> 00:34:21.487
efforts through the school.

00:34:21.728 --> 00:34:22.889
And as you said, Sean,

00:34:22.929 --> 00:34:24.010
I think that makes it a little more

00:34:24.769 --> 00:34:25.791
little more above board and

00:34:25.871 --> 00:34:27.112
it gives the school some

00:34:27.152 --> 00:34:29.333
flexibility as far as what

00:34:29.353 --> 00:34:31.333
they want to earmark for NIL,

00:34:31.393 --> 00:34:32.394
how they want to earmark

00:34:32.434 --> 00:34:34.576
money for facilities

00:34:34.635 --> 00:34:36.137
improvements and things like that.

00:34:36.157 --> 00:34:37.077
They have a little bit more

00:34:37.137 --> 00:34:38.539
flexibility with how that

00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:40.739
gets managed because it

00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:41.621
doesn't have to be in two

00:34:41.641 --> 00:34:42.722
different buckets anymore.

00:34:43.702 --> 00:34:44.182
Yeah,

00:34:44.202 --> 00:34:45.043
and that's a problem for Tech

00:34:45.083 --> 00:34:46.364
basketball is that you

00:34:46.384 --> 00:34:47.623
cannot donate to Triumph

00:34:47.923 --> 00:34:49.264
and donate to basketball specifically.

00:34:49.724 --> 00:34:50.565
You give to Triumph.

00:34:50.965 --> 00:34:52.246
Triumph decides where that money goes.

00:34:52.465 --> 00:34:53.365
You do not have any say in

00:34:53.385 --> 00:34:53.965
where that money goes.

00:34:54.527 --> 00:34:55.407
So if they're putting the

00:34:55.427 --> 00:34:56.766
money to football, it's going to football,

00:34:56.927 --> 00:34:59.427
and you cannot do anything about it.

00:34:59.927 --> 00:35:01.929
So I think getting rid of

00:35:01.949 --> 00:35:02.648
that system would be good.

00:35:04.329 --> 00:35:04.809
All righty.

00:35:05.269 --> 00:35:05.530
Well,

00:35:06.250 --> 00:35:08.110
as everything goes down in the next

00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:08.710
few years,

00:35:08.751 --> 00:35:09.771
we'll definitely be keeping an

00:35:09.851 --> 00:35:10.711
eye talking about it.

00:35:11.333 --> 00:35:11.594
Now,

00:35:11.994 --> 00:35:15.081
before we get into everything spring game,

00:35:15.121 --> 00:35:16.342
we are going to take a

00:35:16.422 --> 00:35:17.425
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downtown Blacksburg.

00:35:32.666 --> 00:35:33.806
My brother's a pharmacist,

00:35:33.865 --> 00:35:35.246
I'm a pharmacist, my uncle's a pharmacist,

00:35:35.286 --> 00:35:36.168
my dad's a pharmacist.

00:35:36.487 --> 00:35:37.327
I remember he would give me

00:35:37.447 --> 00:35:39.809
M&M's to count in little pill counters.

00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:40.989
This is something I've

00:35:41.010 --> 00:35:42.090
always done and I'm just

00:35:42.231 --> 00:35:43.851
lucky that what I know so

00:35:43.891 --> 00:35:45.672
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00:35:45.693 --> 00:35:46.672
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00:36:00.735 --> 00:36:02.255
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00:36:02.635 --> 00:36:03.635
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00:36:03.735 --> 00:36:04.836
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Now back to the episode.

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All righty.

00:36:43.875 --> 00:36:46.076
So before we get into diving,

00:36:46.777 --> 00:36:47.717
talking a little bit about

00:36:47.737 --> 00:36:48.817
the spring game itself,

00:36:49.518 --> 00:36:50.597
there are a few things

00:36:50.637 --> 00:36:52.679
going on down in Blacksburg

00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:53.858
over this weekend.

00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:54.860
And unfortunately,

00:36:54.980 --> 00:36:56.119
Sheldon's going to be in Texas.

00:36:57.001 --> 00:36:58.101
I got youth baseball.

00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.101
Tally traveling next week for work,

00:37:00.121 --> 00:37:00.942
so he can't come up.

00:37:01.521 --> 00:37:05.804
Brian is our lone man, lone wolf.

00:37:06.643 --> 00:37:07.125
And Brian,

00:37:07.264 --> 00:37:08.605
what all you got going on you're

00:37:08.625 --> 00:37:09.626
going to be doing up in the

00:37:09.686 --> 00:37:10.565
Berg over the weekend?

00:37:11.333 --> 00:37:11.835
Yeah,

00:37:11.914 --> 00:37:13.456
so me and wifey are heading up there.

00:37:14.057 --> 00:37:16.199
We're taking off from here

00:37:16.219 --> 00:37:17.641
about lunchtime on Friday.

00:37:17.661 --> 00:37:19.864
We'll be heading to the

00:37:19.925 --> 00:37:23.250
Spring Jam on Friday night.

00:37:25.481 --> 00:37:26.784
And we got the big pregame

00:37:26.824 --> 00:37:29.686
show the next day at TOTS, 12, 15 p.m.

00:37:29.766 --> 00:37:30.867
Everybody be there.

00:37:32.228 --> 00:37:33.750
It's going to be yours truly.

00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:36.072
There's going to be folks

00:37:36.092 --> 00:37:37.733
from Sons of Saturday, 2D,

00:37:39.976 --> 00:37:41.358
Tales from the Terror Dome.

00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:44.581
Virginia Tech is for lovers.

00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:47.342
VT4L crew, we got Drift there.

00:37:48.083 --> 00:37:48.925
So it's going to be a little

00:37:48.965 --> 00:37:49.565
bit of everybody.

00:37:49.585 --> 00:37:51.425
Um, so pull through,

00:37:51.925 --> 00:37:53.186
have some questions for us,

00:37:53.786 --> 00:37:55.588
interact with us, get it, get it,

00:37:55.608 --> 00:37:57.028
get a rail, get it, get a beer.

00:37:58.617 --> 00:37:59.398
Have a good time.

00:37:59.699 --> 00:38:01.501
And then we'll probably be

00:38:01.701 --> 00:38:02.902
up on Chicken Hill for a

00:38:02.942 --> 00:38:03.842
little bit in the morning.

00:38:03.882 --> 00:38:05.724
So come swing by there and see us too.

00:38:06.545 --> 00:38:07.706
Yeah, we did that pregame.

00:38:07.786 --> 00:38:09.307
We did that pregame show.

00:38:09.487 --> 00:38:10.668
Pete did a good job last

00:38:10.708 --> 00:38:13.030
year putting everything together,

00:38:13.050 --> 00:38:14.313
having everybody in the right spot.

00:38:14.353 --> 00:38:16.894
So shout out to Pete B last

00:38:16.934 --> 00:38:18.056
year for putting that together.

00:38:18.096 --> 00:38:19.536
But it was a good time, man.

00:38:20.157 --> 00:38:22.559
I mean, it was the who's who.

00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.322
You know, Cam Chastles walking through.

00:38:24.891 --> 00:38:26.652
Wyatt Teller's walking through, you know,

00:38:26.733 --> 00:38:27.432
as of last year.

00:38:27.452 --> 00:38:27.992
I don't know who's going to

00:38:28.012 --> 00:38:28.552
be there this year.

00:38:28.572 --> 00:38:31.014
But I'm just saying if you

00:38:31.054 --> 00:38:34.315
got time to show up to the pregame,

00:38:35.396 --> 00:38:36.175
the pregame show,

00:38:36.615 --> 00:38:37.737
it was definitely a good time.

00:38:37.797 --> 00:38:38.817
I recommend everybody stop

00:38:38.856 --> 00:38:42.378
by there and show some love, man.

00:38:42.478 --> 00:38:43.318
And if you can't make it,

00:38:43.358 --> 00:38:45.579
it's going to be on Suns Twitter,

00:38:45.699 --> 00:38:48.681
our Twitter, Suns YouTube, our YouTube.

00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.702
So go grab it wherever you can.

00:38:51.762 --> 00:38:52.563
It'll be live at 1215.

00:38:53.836 --> 00:38:54.802
The question is how many

00:38:54.942 --> 00:38:56.550
rails are you having Brian

00:38:56.891 --> 00:38:57.735
during the episode?

00:38:58.547 --> 00:38:59.128
I mean,

00:38:59.827 --> 00:39:01.489
I've been told that if you do more

00:39:01.548 --> 00:39:03.190
than two in a three-hour sitting,

00:39:03.230 --> 00:39:03.871
you're an animal,

00:39:03.891 --> 00:39:04.952
so I guess I'm going to be an animal.

00:39:05.291 --> 00:39:06.092
You're going to be an animal.

00:39:06.992 --> 00:39:08.393
When we went up for the pit game,

00:39:08.434 --> 00:39:09.715
me and you both had two in

00:39:09.755 --> 00:39:10.835
like an hour sitting.

00:39:11.295 --> 00:39:13.336
Yeah, we're kind of crazy.

00:39:13.938 --> 00:39:15.818
I drank a fifth of Evan

00:39:15.838 --> 00:39:19.141
Williams on this podcast.

00:39:19.181 --> 00:39:20.702
We're not the barometer for

00:39:20.762 --> 00:39:24.224
responsible consumption of alcohol here.

00:39:24.505 --> 00:39:24.585
Yeah,

00:39:24.605 --> 00:39:25.686
I think Jeremy said he's going to

00:39:25.706 --> 00:39:27.045
have his baby girl with him.

00:39:27.226 --> 00:39:27.666
Oh, my God.

00:39:27.726 --> 00:39:28.266
He might be.

00:39:28.766 --> 00:39:30.987
If he's got the baby on the little,

00:39:31.128 --> 00:39:32.588
you know, the thing that you carry on you,

00:39:32.608 --> 00:39:33.789
that's going to be good.

00:39:33.829 --> 00:39:36.630
He'll look like Alan from The Hangover.

00:39:36.690 --> 00:39:38.110
He's going to be like Alan

00:39:38.132 --> 00:39:39.652
from The Hangover, that thing.

00:39:39.672 --> 00:39:39.972
So,

00:39:40.253 --> 00:39:41.612
that'd be cool if we see him like that.

00:39:41.632 --> 00:39:42.813
All right.

00:39:42.853 --> 00:39:44.213
Well, Brian, enjoy it, man.

00:39:44.233 --> 00:39:45.275
We look forward to some pics

00:39:45.335 --> 00:39:47.835
and your stories for next weekend.

00:39:47.856 --> 00:39:48.295
All right.

00:39:48.315 --> 00:39:48.456
Well,

00:39:48.476 --> 00:39:50.117
let's get into the spring game itself.

00:39:50.197 --> 00:39:53.239
And today, during Coach Pryor's interview,

00:39:53.438 --> 00:39:53.719
hold on.

00:39:55.009 --> 00:39:55.349
Hold on.

00:39:56.349 --> 00:39:57.672
Kevin, if you're going to be up,

00:39:58.112 --> 00:40:01.315
you swing by Tots at 1215

00:40:01.315 --> 00:40:02.677
and Brian will buy you a rail.

00:40:02.757 --> 00:40:05.458
It is the signature drink at

00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.862
Tots in Blacksburg.

00:40:09.663 --> 00:40:12.465
It's every rail drink.

00:40:13.086 --> 00:40:13.987
Every rail liquor.

00:40:15.684 --> 00:40:17.126
You get a little bit of

00:40:17.166 --> 00:40:18.568
juice topped off at the end

00:40:18.588 --> 00:40:20.829
there just to keep it smooth.

00:40:21.871 --> 00:40:22.871
Don't do it.

00:40:23.231 --> 00:40:24.273
Just enough to keep it

00:40:24.293 --> 00:40:25.313
smooth at the end there.

00:40:25.534 --> 00:40:26.315
Yep.

00:40:26.695 --> 00:40:28.297
It'll get you feeling good.

00:40:28.496 --> 00:40:29.577
If you ask somebody what a

00:40:29.617 --> 00:40:30.478
drink is and they can't

00:40:30.518 --> 00:40:31.679
give you a straight answer,

00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:32.641
don't fucking drink it.

00:40:33.422 --> 00:40:33.882
It's good.

00:40:33.902 --> 00:40:34.842
That's all I can say.

00:40:35.684 --> 00:40:37.125
It'll creep up on you.

00:40:37.144 --> 00:40:37.726
It's a creeper.

00:40:37.846 --> 00:40:38.626
Yes, it will.

00:40:38.666 --> 00:40:39.447
Yes, it will.

00:40:39.467 --> 00:40:39.907
Don't do it.

00:40:40.307 --> 00:40:41.588
Let's talk about now Coach

00:40:41.608 --> 00:40:43.610
Pratt kind of revealed the format today.

00:40:44.592 --> 00:40:45.253
First half,

00:40:45.512 --> 00:40:47.173
regular clock the first quarter,

00:40:47.173 --> 00:40:50.637
15 minutes, 12 minutes second quarter,

00:40:51.458 --> 00:40:52.639
and then basically running

00:40:52.659 --> 00:40:54.179
clock in the second half of

00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:54.900
two 12 minutes.

00:40:55.882 --> 00:40:56.561
As you all know,

00:40:56.581 --> 00:40:58.364
this is where my pain point

00:40:58.463 --> 00:41:00.085
is when it comes to the spring game.

00:41:00.826 --> 00:41:01.827
Because, unfortunately,

00:41:02.007 --> 00:41:03.248
Coach Pratt broke my heart

00:41:03.288 --> 00:41:04.188
again this year,

00:41:04.268 --> 00:41:05.230
and we're going to have

00:41:05.349 --> 00:41:06.851
split rosters again.

00:41:06.871 --> 00:41:06.952
Yeah.

00:41:09.786 --> 00:41:10.929
Y'all all juggling.

00:41:11.309 --> 00:41:13.213
Curtis upset that after we

00:41:13.233 --> 00:41:14.956
had Prowl on last year that

00:41:14.996 --> 00:41:15.898
he didn't listen to him.

00:41:18.842 --> 00:41:19.943
Hey, but you know what?

00:41:19.983 --> 00:41:21.643
He's staying true to form, though.

00:41:22.204 --> 00:41:23.583
We ain't there depth-wise.

00:41:24.003 --> 00:41:25.284
We ain't there depth-wise.

00:41:25.943 --> 00:41:27.045
And I get it.

00:41:27.505 --> 00:41:28.704
And I get with the split

00:41:28.764 --> 00:41:30.005
rosters and everything

00:41:30.045 --> 00:41:30.945
where you still want to see

00:41:30.985 --> 00:41:32.686
guys compete because, you know,

00:41:32.806 --> 00:41:34.286
you do get a feeling that

00:41:34.405 --> 00:41:36.525
probably there were guys

00:41:36.585 --> 00:41:37.585
who took some meaningful

00:41:37.666 --> 00:41:38.927
reps in the second half

00:41:39.387 --> 00:41:40.586
that may have made

00:41:40.626 --> 00:41:42.706
themselves on special teams,

00:41:42.766 --> 00:41:44.467
may have made themselves get some snaps.

00:41:44.947 --> 00:41:45.728
So I get it.

00:41:46.414 --> 00:41:49.016
But I just want to see one-one.

00:41:49.056 --> 00:41:50.117
I want to see the best line

00:41:50.137 --> 00:41:50.958
against the best line,

00:41:50.978 --> 00:41:51.797
the best corners against

00:41:51.898 --> 00:41:52.619
the best line out.

00:41:53.579 --> 00:41:54.581
I think we're finally at a

00:41:54.681 --> 00:41:56.161
point where split rosters

00:41:56.262 --> 00:41:58.003
from a depth standpoint is

00:41:58.023 --> 00:41:59.344
going to look a little bit better.

00:42:00.545 --> 00:42:01.865
I do feel like we've got

00:42:02.726 --> 00:42:03.768
seven or eight reliable

00:42:03.847 --> 00:42:04.748
offensive linemen now.

00:42:04.789 --> 00:42:07.570
That's not quite a full two lines there,

00:42:07.610 --> 00:42:08.492
but I think we're getting a

00:42:08.512 --> 00:42:09.431
little bit closer to what

00:42:09.452 --> 00:42:10.092
that looks like.

00:42:11.512 --> 00:42:14.172
most concerned.

00:42:14.572 --> 00:42:16.152
I don't even need to see some people.

00:42:17.733 --> 00:42:18.813
I know what they look like.

00:42:20.153 --> 00:42:22.034
You put QB1 in a bubble,

00:42:22.054 --> 00:42:23.135
leave him on the sideline.

00:42:23.155 --> 00:42:23.914
We know what he can do.

00:42:26.135 --> 00:42:26.414
Shoot.

00:42:27.175 --> 00:42:28.335
God dang, I can't even think.

00:42:29.115 --> 00:42:31.255
The wide receivers, the old ones,

00:42:31.876 --> 00:42:32.976
we don't need to see what they can do.

00:42:33.137 --> 00:42:33.956
We know what they can do.

00:42:34.916 --> 00:42:36.697
The top four, hey, leave them alone.

00:42:37.617 --> 00:42:37.878
Don't...

00:42:40.085 --> 00:42:41.266
Two, leave him alone.

00:42:41.947 --> 00:42:43.108
He carried the ball enough.

00:42:43.409 --> 00:42:44.130
He ran enough.

00:42:44.409 --> 00:42:45.451
He was jumping over people

00:42:45.471 --> 00:42:46.692
against fucking Florida State.

00:42:47.592 --> 00:42:48.554
I don't need to see him in a

00:42:48.614 --> 00:42:49.293
practice game.

00:42:49.454 --> 00:42:50.315
You know, I'm fine.

00:42:50.695 --> 00:42:51.677
When we get to the offensive

00:42:51.697 --> 00:42:53.257
side in a little while, I know exactly.

00:42:53.358 --> 00:42:54.559
Tally's going to be like one word,

00:42:54.619 --> 00:42:55.079
don't play.

00:42:55.219 --> 00:42:57.061
Or two words, don't play.

00:42:57.161 --> 00:42:57.601
Let's talk.

00:42:57.641 --> 00:42:58.862
Hey, we got a new guy.

00:42:58.902 --> 00:43:00.184
We got a new king in here again.

00:43:00.204 --> 00:43:00.423
New king.

00:43:00.465 --> 00:43:01.425
We're going to have to get you.

00:43:01.806 --> 00:43:03.086
When we play Miami, man,

00:43:03.106 --> 00:43:04.268
we need to get you on this

00:43:04.288 --> 00:43:05.208
show before and after.

00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.400
We appreciate you popping in, man.

00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:10.139
Absolutely.

00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.701
It started off as a rivalry,

00:43:13.740 --> 00:43:15.461
but now between me and you,

00:43:16.001 --> 00:43:19.143
it's a civil rivalry, a sibling rivalry.

00:43:20.023 --> 00:43:22.123
Hey, we're going to get you on here.

00:43:22.164 --> 00:43:23.423
We're going to bust your ass,

00:43:23.443 --> 00:43:24.045
but we're going to have you

00:43:24.144 --> 00:43:24.985
on here and have a good time.

00:43:25.025 --> 00:43:25.925
We're going to get you on here, man.

00:43:25.945 --> 00:43:27.226
We're going to have a good time.

00:43:27.306 --> 00:43:28.626
Appreciate you for popping in.

00:43:29.146 --> 00:43:30.786
Reaching across the bounds of

00:43:32.110 --> 00:43:33.472
of, uh, fandoms here,

00:43:33.552 --> 00:43:34.914
but let's talk about what

00:43:34.954 --> 00:43:35.934
we want to see in this game.

00:43:35.954 --> 00:43:37.396
And I want to start on defense.

00:43:37.456 --> 00:43:39.677
Cause, uh,

00:43:39.717 --> 00:43:40.960
that's just where I wanted to start.

00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:42.400
And let's talk D line.

00:43:42.842 --> 00:43:43.442
Cause fuck y'all.

00:43:43.481 --> 00:43:44.302
Right.

00:43:45.164 --> 00:43:45.804
Let's roll.

00:43:45.824 --> 00:43:46.905
There you go.

00:43:46.965 --> 00:43:47.905
D line, baby.

00:43:48.067 --> 00:43:48.626
D line.

00:43:49.867 --> 00:43:52.311
Let's talk D and say what we

00:43:52.351 --> 00:43:53.192
talked enough about.

00:43:53.211 --> 00:43:53.472
You know,

00:43:53.592 --> 00:43:54.793
we'll talk about the offense

00:43:54.813 --> 00:43:55.835
because we know and Tally

00:43:55.855 --> 00:43:56.936
already put his statement

00:43:56.956 --> 00:43:58.838
on basically three position groups.

00:43:58.878 --> 00:44:00.579
So you have anything to say

00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:01.340
in 20 minutes here.

00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:03.782
But what are we looking at from the end?

00:44:03.842 --> 00:44:06.025
Because we feel like this is

00:44:06.065 --> 00:44:06.726
my feeling on it.

00:44:07.429 --> 00:44:08.809
APR is an absolute stud.

00:44:08.869 --> 00:44:10.210
Cole Nelson is your steady Eddie.

00:44:11.032 --> 00:44:12.253
Burgos flashed.

00:44:12.652 --> 00:44:14.255
And what are we – I mean,

00:44:14.434 --> 00:44:16.215
are we looking for a – do we need one?

00:44:16.255 --> 00:44:16.936
Do we need two?

00:44:17.376 --> 00:44:18.998
Do we need – what do y'all want to see?

00:44:19.918 --> 00:44:20.760
I don't care who takes it.

00:44:23.601 --> 00:44:24.563
Brian, come on, man.

00:44:24.682 --> 00:44:25.563
Hit me with something.

00:44:25.784 --> 00:44:26.344
You know what?

00:44:26.364 --> 00:44:29.887
Let me get – are we going to

00:44:29.907 --> 00:44:30.788
see some more from C.J.

00:44:30.807 --> 00:44:31.168
McCrae?

00:44:31.568 --> 00:44:32.028
Are we going –

00:44:33.813 --> 00:44:34.597
I need to know, man.

00:44:35.121 --> 00:44:36.768
I mean, we've seen a little bit.

00:44:38.731 --> 00:44:40.072
But then we don't see him,

00:44:40.373 --> 00:44:42.134
so I'd like to know where he's at.

00:44:43.114 --> 00:44:43.974
It's flashes, right?

00:44:44.355 --> 00:44:45.275
I've seen flashes,

00:44:45.335 --> 00:44:47.876
and I think if we get some consistency,

00:44:47.916 --> 00:44:48.996
if he gets to that level

00:44:49.016 --> 00:44:50.737
where he's able to put

00:44:50.777 --> 00:44:53.038
those pieces together consistently,

00:44:53.077 --> 00:44:55.739
especially on non-obvious passing downs.

00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:56.579
I mean,

00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:57.940
because he's a beast coming around

00:44:57.981 --> 00:44:58.400
that edge,

00:44:58.440 --> 00:44:59.942
and he gets after the quarterback.

00:45:01.161 --> 00:45:02.182
And I think he does a good

00:45:02.222 --> 00:45:03.402
job of being disruptive,

00:45:03.422 --> 00:45:05.463
but I think sometimes when –

00:45:05.463 --> 00:45:06.505
when that first move in

00:45:06.545 --> 00:45:07.465
working or he doesn't get

00:45:07.485 --> 00:45:09.025
his hands there right out the gate,

00:45:09.065 --> 00:45:09.945
that's when he struggles

00:45:10.005 --> 00:45:11.047
and can kind of get ate up

00:45:11.226 --> 00:45:12.467
and kind of get lost in the

00:45:12.487 --> 00:45:12.967
shuffle there.

00:45:14.528 --> 00:45:14.949
All right.

00:45:14.989 --> 00:45:16.570
So CJ McCrae's who's got

00:45:16.590 --> 00:45:18.331
y'all's eye on CJ looking a

00:45:18.351 --> 00:45:18.971
little bit bigger.

00:45:19.010 --> 00:45:19.731
They got him listed at

00:45:19.771 --> 00:45:21.411
almost 250 pounds this year

00:45:21.431 --> 00:45:22.753
where he'd been tendering at what?

00:45:22.793 --> 00:45:22.952
Two 30.

00:45:23.753 --> 00:45:24.012
Sheldon,

00:45:24.032 --> 00:45:25.514
you got anything on the defensive ends?

00:45:27.554 --> 00:45:27.934
Not really.

00:45:27.974 --> 00:45:28.335
Honestly.

00:45:28.356 --> 00:45:29.755
I mean, I like the continuity there.

00:45:29.775 --> 00:45:32.036
Um, you know, I think, uh,

00:45:32.077 --> 00:45:32.797
I'm trying to refresh my

00:45:32.818 --> 00:45:33.217
brain a little bit.

00:45:33.257 --> 00:45:33.438
I mean,

00:45:33.458 --> 00:45:34.398
you got most of the guys are turning.

00:45:34.418 --> 00:45:34.978
I think, um,

00:45:35.998 --> 00:45:37.320
it'll be a pretty solid unit.

00:45:37.340 --> 00:45:39.681
I know that I'm trying to think,

00:45:39.722 --> 00:45:40.443
I believe it was Bill

00:45:40.483 --> 00:45:41.943
Connolly who said that

00:45:42.704 --> 00:45:44.106
returning production on the

00:45:44.186 --> 00:45:45.327
defensive line is actually

00:45:45.367 --> 00:45:46.528
more important than

00:45:46.588 --> 00:45:47.869
returning production to other positions.

00:45:48.449 --> 00:45:50.532
So if you have continuity there, I mean,

00:45:50.572 --> 00:45:52.134
that's, you're, you're really set there.

00:45:52.213 --> 00:45:52.934
So I think,

00:45:53.434 --> 00:45:54.275
I think the amount of returning

00:45:54.295 --> 00:45:55.076
production that tech has

00:45:55.096 --> 00:45:56.257
there is going to bode pretty well.

00:45:56.297 --> 00:45:57.117
So I'm excited to see,

00:45:57.217 --> 00:45:58.900
excited to see how it turns out.

00:46:00.101 --> 00:46:00.460
All right.

00:46:00.981 --> 00:46:01.202
Now,

00:46:01.822 --> 00:46:02.686
There is one other part of

00:46:02.726 --> 00:46:03.407
the defensive line,

00:46:03.427 --> 00:46:04.512
and that's defensive tackles.

00:46:04.632 --> 00:46:05.014
Tally,

00:46:05.074 --> 00:46:06.818
do you want any of the starting four

00:46:06.860 --> 00:46:07.380
to even play?

00:46:09.425 --> 00:46:11.126
man I don't even know so I

00:46:11.166 --> 00:46:12.527
think what it is really you

00:46:12.547 --> 00:46:13.728
know I'm I'm saying stuff

00:46:13.748 --> 00:46:15.409
joking but if you got some

00:46:15.449 --> 00:46:16.251
stuff where they're because

00:46:16.271 --> 00:46:17.070
they're they're football

00:46:17.112 --> 00:46:17.972
players and they gotta play

00:46:18.112 --> 00:46:18.913
they gotta play football

00:46:18.952 --> 00:46:20.014
you know what I mean but

00:46:20.054 --> 00:46:21.835
when you got something in a

00:46:21.914 --> 00:46:23.715
setting like that you know

00:46:23.755 --> 00:46:25.197
it does show you who shows

00:46:25.336 --> 00:46:26.438
up you know when the lights

00:46:26.478 --> 00:46:28.619
come on so um if you got

00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:29.579
somebody that's battling

00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.762
for like a spot you know a

00:46:32.682 --> 00:46:34.384
two man three man whatever because

00:46:35.083 --> 00:46:36.123
The name of the game for

00:46:36.163 --> 00:46:37.824
that defensive line has got to be depth.

00:46:37.963 --> 00:46:38.523
You know what I'm saying?

00:46:38.563 --> 00:46:40.244
I mean, you got a couple of top guys there,

00:46:40.545 --> 00:46:41.706
but you got to see what

00:46:41.746 --> 00:46:42.766
your depth pieces are.

00:46:43.365 --> 00:46:44.086
So, I mean,

00:46:44.126 --> 00:46:45.487
you got to go in and you got to

00:46:45.547 --> 00:46:47.967
see kind of who we're going

00:46:47.987 --> 00:46:48.688
to be able to put in

00:46:48.728 --> 00:46:50.228
because that's what hurt us

00:46:50.309 --> 00:46:51.489
in the last couple of years

00:46:51.570 --> 00:46:53.371
was not having that depth

00:46:53.411 --> 00:46:54.971
when one person went out or

00:46:55.431 --> 00:46:57.092
a certain person went out, you know,

00:46:57.211 --> 00:46:58.273
that line crumbled.

00:46:58.393 --> 00:46:59.532
Or, you know,

00:47:00.193 --> 00:47:04.034
when Felderius Payne wasn't in,

00:47:04.824 --> 00:47:06.724
you know, it was noticeable.

00:47:06.985 --> 00:47:08.586
You know, when his emergence came,

00:47:08.726 --> 00:47:10.007
the line went different.

00:47:10.108 --> 00:47:11.849
So you want to kind of find

00:47:11.889 --> 00:47:13.489
that early instead of, you know,

00:47:13.550 --> 00:47:14.510
and sometimes it does come

00:47:14.550 --> 00:47:15.331
later in the season,

00:47:15.371 --> 00:47:16.913
but if you can find that in

00:47:16.932 --> 00:47:18.094
the spring and then work on

00:47:18.114 --> 00:47:19.094
that all during the summer,

00:47:20.155 --> 00:47:20.735
definitely helps.

00:47:20.755 --> 00:47:23.317
So with these guys, I think, you know,

00:47:24.358 --> 00:47:25.958
we did bring in, you know,

00:47:25.978 --> 00:47:27.920
a couple of transfers in there, you know,

00:47:28.141 --> 00:47:29.061
that's going to play a lot

00:47:29.101 --> 00:47:29.762
of snaps for us.

00:47:29.802 --> 00:47:31.222
So you do want to see, like,

00:47:31.322 --> 00:47:32.284
how they move together,

00:47:32.304 --> 00:47:33.625
but it's always like a worry.

00:47:34.146 --> 00:47:35.289
when you have the guys that

00:47:35.329 --> 00:47:36.791
are older guys that are going like,

00:47:38.034 --> 00:47:40.557
do you want to see Peebles really play?

00:47:40.818 --> 00:47:42.641
Like you kind of, you know what he can do.

00:47:43.123 --> 00:47:44.344
Do you want to see him out there?

00:47:45.358 --> 00:47:47.559
know I don't know not for

00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:48.659
extended snaps I think you

00:47:48.699 --> 00:47:49.480
want to kind of see him

00:47:49.539 --> 00:47:50.800
flash get him some live

00:47:50.860 --> 00:47:53.041
reps against um you know

00:47:53.302 --> 00:47:54.802
full speed competition but

00:47:54.862 --> 00:47:55.702
I don't think you want to

00:47:55.742 --> 00:47:56.762
necessarily throw him out

00:47:56.802 --> 00:47:58.422
there for more than a

00:47:58.463 --> 00:47:59.523
quarter worth of snaps

00:48:00.043 --> 00:48:02.443
right I'm really interested

00:48:02.483 --> 00:48:04.005
to see what we get from

00:48:04.704 --> 00:48:05.945
malachi madison because I

00:48:05.985 --> 00:48:07.686
feel like we need to start

00:48:07.726 --> 00:48:08.865
seeing that fifth or sixth

00:48:08.905 --> 00:48:10.367
guy in the rotation knowing that

00:48:11.086 --> 00:48:11.306
You know,

00:48:11.327 --> 00:48:12.807
a good number of even the guys

00:48:12.847 --> 00:48:14.568
that we brought in in this cycle,

00:48:14.788 --> 00:48:15.527
we're not going to have

00:48:15.568 --> 00:48:16.469
this time next year.

00:48:16.688 --> 00:48:18.969
So I'm thinking long term,

00:48:18.989 --> 00:48:20.550
I care about 2024,

00:48:20.550 --> 00:48:21.849
but I also care about what

00:48:21.909 --> 00:48:22.690
we're going to look like in

00:48:22.690 --> 00:48:24.371
2025 and 26 and getting a

00:48:24.411 --> 00:48:26.411
guy like Madison in there

00:48:26.492 --> 00:48:27.311
where he's kind of

00:48:28.192 --> 00:48:29.072
showing what he can do.

00:48:29.092 --> 00:48:30.634
He can be a guy that can be

00:48:30.653 --> 00:48:31.733
a part of that rotation,

00:48:31.753 --> 00:48:34.295
that one and two group

00:48:34.356 --> 00:48:36.396
rotation this time next

00:48:36.416 --> 00:48:37.818
year I think is going to be important.

00:48:37.958 --> 00:48:39.898
To me, in the spring game,

00:48:39.958 --> 00:48:40.940
I'm looking for that five

00:48:40.980 --> 00:48:42.221
and six spot because I feel

00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:44.442
like one through four are

00:48:44.621 --> 00:48:45.922
pretty solid in terms of

00:48:46.583 --> 00:48:48.123
knowing what we can expect from them.

00:48:48.525 --> 00:48:49.585
I'd like to see Gilliam in

00:48:50.045 --> 00:48:50.985
some situations because I

00:48:51.005 --> 00:48:52.166
feel like he's probably got

00:48:52.206 --> 00:48:54.789
the least experience of that first four.

00:48:55.248 --> 00:48:56.710
I'd like to see him get some

00:48:56.909 --> 00:48:58.572
extra run and give him a

00:48:59.112 --> 00:49:00.092
few different looks against

00:49:00.132 --> 00:49:01.994
different offensive linemen there.

00:49:02.574 --> 00:49:03.775
But I think overall,

00:49:04.155 --> 00:49:04.876
I want to see what that

00:49:04.916 --> 00:49:07.838
five and six guys look like

00:49:07.878 --> 00:49:08.719
in the rotation there.

00:49:09.179 --> 00:49:10.019
Yeah, you say that.

00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:10.800
We already know Andrew

00:49:10.820 --> 00:49:12.141
Hanchuk that was mentioned

00:49:12.221 --> 00:49:13.342
that he will not play.

00:49:13.382 --> 00:49:13.862
He's nicked.

00:49:14.021 --> 00:49:14.443
He's already...

00:49:15.289 --> 00:49:15.811
Like, scratch.

00:49:15.851 --> 00:49:17.853
Y'all know Pryor's feelings on that.

00:49:17.913 --> 00:49:19.034
Somebody slightly nicked,

00:49:19.775 --> 00:49:21.836
if they get nicked in the next few days,

00:49:21.936 --> 00:49:22.637
they ain't playing.

00:49:23.117 --> 00:49:24.480
And I love that philosophy.

00:49:25.740 --> 00:49:27.262
Where I was more interested to see,

00:49:27.302 --> 00:49:28.403
especially with the new four, because,

00:49:28.423 --> 00:49:29.244
Brian, I think you're right.

00:49:29.664 --> 00:49:30.746
Kelvin Gilliam probably

00:49:30.847 --> 00:49:31.927
should be the transfer that

00:49:31.947 --> 00:49:34.150
plays the most because of

00:49:34.210 --> 00:49:35.351
his lack of time playing

00:49:35.411 --> 00:49:36.353
down at Oklahoma.

00:49:36.932 --> 00:49:37.233
Right.

00:49:39.797 --> 00:49:40.657
And he's also the guy we

00:49:40.677 --> 00:49:42.257
have for the longest of that group, too.

00:49:42.277 --> 00:49:43.038
Yeah, it's true.

00:49:43.077 --> 00:49:44.378
He's going to be here longer than – well,

00:49:44.398 --> 00:49:45.039
him and Copeland are

00:49:45.059 --> 00:49:46.500
basically all the same.

00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:47.460
They've got two years left.

00:49:47.501 --> 00:49:48.920
They can play this year and next.

00:49:49.382 --> 00:49:51.643
But the bigger piece, what I wanted to see,

00:49:51.663 --> 00:49:52.922
and we're probably not going to see it,

00:49:53.384 --> 00:49:54.684
I wanted to see how they rotate.

00:49:54.824 --> 00:49:57.505
I wanted to see who's in there with who.

00:49:58.365 --> 00:49:59.987
Do they let Fuga play some

00:50:00.186 --> 00:50:01.588
one or maybe even zero

00:50:01.648 --> 00:50:03.148
because of who we have now?

00:50:03.972 --> 00:50:04.172
Right.

00:50:04.273 --> 00:50:08.034
At 308, do you say, listen, Gilliam's 298.

00:50:08.034 --> 00:50:10.016
He can play over here to two.

00:50:10.056 --> 00:50:10.836
We can go to zero.

00:50:10.876 --> 00:50:12.137
We can run some different sets.

00:50:12.518 --> 00:50:13.358
I don't think we're going to

00:50:13.378 --> 00:50:14.159
see that because, Brian,

00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:15.659
I think y'all are both right.

00:50:16.739 --> 00:50:17.940
I think Fuga.

00:50:18.641 --> 00:50:21.782
I think Copeland.

00:50:22.543 --> 00:50:23.083
And I think.

00:50:25.014 --> 00:50:25.414
Peoples,

00:50:25.974 --> 00:50:27.135
I think they're playing one quarter.

00:50:27.835 --> 00:50:28.414
And I don't think they're

00:50:28.434 --> 00:50:29.115
going to be on the field.

00:50:29.175 --> 00:50:31.257
And to Brian's point, who's five and six?

00:50:31.297 --> 00:50:32.097
Is it Wilford Penae?

00:50:32.117 --> 00:50:33.378
Is it Malachi Madison?

00:50:34.139 --> 00:50:35.159
And then let Gilliam get in

00:50:35.179 --> 00:50:36.480
there and kind of be the lead dog.

00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:39.661
So I think just from this group,

00:50:39.742 --> 00:50:41.682
it's – I do want to see the

00:50:41.722 --> 00:50:42.422
cohesive unit.

00:50:42.463 --> 00:50:43.403
That's where I wanted that

00:50:43.423 --> 00:50:47.585
1-1 where you had APR, Peoples, Fuga,

00:50:47.666 --> 00:50:48.726
because I do think Fuga's

00:50:48.746 --> 00:50:49.706
going to start just because

00:50:49.746 --> 00:50:50.648
of having that girth.

00:50:51.572 --> 00:50:52.773
And then Cole Nelson,

00:50:53.295 --> 00:50:54.916
like to see that because of

00:50:54.936 --> 00:50:55.557
Sheldon's point.

00:50:56.777 --> 00:50:57.719
Returning production.

00:50:58.039 --> 00:50:59.780
And we have a very highly

00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:01.460
returning production line,

00:51:01.981 --> 00:51:02.922
and we're dropping an all

00:51:03.001 --> 00:51:04.543
ACC defensive tackle right

00:51:04.563 --> 00:51:05.143
in the middle of it,

00:51:05.603 --> 00:51:07.505
who produced last year.

00:51:07.644 --> 00:51:09.947
So a couple things I'm going

00:51:09.967 --> 00:51:11.286
to throw up here real quick.

00:51:11.748 --> 00:51:13.289
Big Mitch asked a question.

00:51:13.909 --> 00:51:15.070
Gunner has currently moved

00:51:15.110 --> 00:51:16.391
to the offensive line.

00:51:16.610 --> 00:51:17.130
He was moved to the

00:51:17.170 --> 00:51:19.393
offensive line very early in spring.

00:51:21.054 --> 00:51:21.494
And you know what?

00:51:21.514 --> 00:51:22.173
I'm going to put it up here

00:51:22.193 --> 00:51:23.335
for my buddy down in Miami.

00:51:23.554 --> 00:51:24.456
I want to see how they hold

00:51:24.536 --> 00:51:25.516
up against the run.

00:51:25.536 --> 00:51:25.677
Yeah.

00:51:26.416 --> 00:51:28.278
So it'll be very interesting.

00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:30.141
All right, let's flip over.

00:51:30.161 --> 00:51:31.603
Let's talk about linebackers.

00:51:33.684 --> 00:51:35.146
Talk about the inside guys first,

00:51:38.347 --> 00:51:38.628
I mean,

00:51:38.648 --> 00:51:41.250
do y'all even want Brumfield to play?

00:51:41.329 --> 00:51:42.150
You hope he gets Nick

00:51:42.170 --> 00:51:43.831
tomorrow in practice and it's like, nope,

00:51:45.032 --> 00:51:46.193
you ain't playing Saturday.

00:51:46.534 --> 00:51:46.954
Man,

00:51:47.675 --> 00:51:49.036
I'm torn because I want to see him in

00:51:49.175 --> 00:51:50.956
action because, I mean, with any transfer,

00:51:50.976 --> 00:51:51.958
I want to see those guys in

00:51:52.038 --> 00:51:52.918
action a little bit,

00:51:53.739 --> 00:51:57.422
especially guys that have played in –

00:51:57.422 --> 00:51:58.422
um different levels of

00:51:58.443 --> 00:51:59.722
competition I kind of want

00:51:59.742 --> 00:52:01.123
to see how they acclimate

00:52:01.143 --> 00:52:02.384
how they fit in how quickly

00:52:02.423 --> 00:52:03.083
they're picking up the

00:52:03.123 --> 00:52:04.605
system especially at a

00:52:04.644 --> 00:52:05.304
position like mike

00:52:05.385 --> 00:52:07.246
linebacker by all accounts

00:52:07.346 --> 00:52:09.126
that I've heard um both

00:52:09.206 --> 00:52:11.068
direct and indirect he's

00:52:11.108 --> 00:52:12.947
crushing it so yeah yeah uh

00:52:12.987 --> 00:52:14.289
but I I'd love to see that

00:52:14.509 --> 00:52:15.809
in a live practice setting

00:52:16.510 --> 00:52:18.570
yeah it's definitely like

00:52:18.630 --> 00:52:20.471
most guys that come in if

00:52:20.510 --> 00:52:21.731
they're new to the team you

00:52:21.771 --> 00:52:23.012
do want to see them in some

00:52:23.072 --> 00:52:24.733
kind of aspect you know

00:52:24.753 --> 00:52:25.293
what I'm saying because you

00:52:25.313 --> 00:52:26.713
got to think like last year you

00:52:26.914 --> 00:52:27.474
When we went,

00:52:27.494 --> 00:52:28.974
we had never seen Kyron live.

00:52:29.255 --> 00:52:29.856
You know what I mean?

00:52:30.195 --> 00:52:30.597
Yeah.

00:52:30.617 --> 00:52:31.677
So even though the spring

00:52:31.697 --> 00:52:34.378
game was like a piece of shit, you know,

00:52:34.398 --> 00:52:36.019
as far as like who we had

00:52:36.059 --> 00:52:36.860
blocking forward.

00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:37.581
Yeah.

00:52:37.701 --> 00:52:39.101
Anybody who watched football.

00:52:39.242 --> 00:52:40.043
And again,

00:52:40.422 --> 00:52:41.943
you motherfuckers who don't listen.

00:52:41.963 --> 00:52:44.425
When we try to tell you when

00:52:44.445 --> 00:52:45.527
we went and watched the

00:52:45.567 --> 00:52:47.188
game and we was like, yeah,

00:52:47.228 --> 00:52:48.208
that's what we expected.

00:52:48.228 --> 00:52:50.889
Like he got some juice and people was like,

00:52:50.969 --> 00:52:52.331
oh no, he was doing this wrong.

00:52:52.371 --> 00:52:53.132
He was doing that wrong.

00:52:53.152 --> 00:52:54.193
I was like, y'all stat watching.

00:52:55.132 --> 00:52:55.472
He, uh,

00:52:56.653 --> 00:52:57.534
I could have blocked better

00:52:57.574 --> 00:52:58.755
for them than they was blocking.

00:52:58.914 --> 00:52:59.615
You know what I'm saying?

00:52:59.655 --> 00:53:00.076
Like, shit,

00:53:00.096 --> 00:53:01.596
and I got a bad Achilles and

00:53:01.657 --> 00:53:02.456
two bad knees.

00:53:02.516 --> 00:53:04.338
So, hey,

00:53:05.038 --> 00:53:06.498
you do want to see them in some

00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:07.579
aspect just to see what

00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:08.800
they got when the lights turn on.

00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:09.659
So, you know,

00:53:09.739 --> 00:53:10.820
even if you don't get to see much,

00:53:10.860 --> 00:53:12.382
like I'd like to see Brumfield and,

00:53:12.742 --> 00:53:13.802
you know, all of the new guys.

00:53:13.822 --> 00:53:15.362
You want to see them just a

00:53:15.402 --> 00:53:15.762
little bit more.

00:53:15.822 --> 00:53:17.304
And I say something like, you know,

00:53:17.344 --> 00:53:17.903
like Tootin.

00:53:17.923 --> 00:53:20.224
Like, he's so valuable to our team,

00:53:20.284 --> 00:53:21.626
and we've seen him on the team.

00:53:22.085 --> 00:53:22.246
Like,

00:53:22.585 --> 00:53:23.766
I don't need to see nothing out of him.

00:53:24.027 --> 00:53:24.887
You know, Kyron, like –

00:53:26.231 --> 00:53:27.211
I know most people,

00:53:27.231 --> 00:53:28.632
if he's got a non-contact jersey on,

00:53:28.652 --> 00:53:29.672
they like to see him spin it.

00:53:29.693 --> 00:53:31.592
But, like, we know what he can do.

00:53:32.072 --> 00:53:33.672
You know what I'm saying?

00:53:33.833 --> 00:53:34.952
Don't let him get touched.

00:53:36.253 --> 00:53:37.594
And that's it.

00:53:37.634 --> 00:53:37.914
You know,

00:53:37.954 --> 00:53:40.034
we don't want anything to happen

00:53:40.074 --> 00:53:40.873
in the spring game.

00:53:40.893 --> 00:53:41.534
But, you know,

00:53:41.554 --> 00:53:42.514
they don't want to get out there.

00:53:42.534 --> 00:53:44.655
They want to have some fun, man.

00:53:44.755 --> 00:53:45.755
And another thing, like,

00:53:47.215 --> 00:53:49.456
even though it's not a full, you know,

00:53:50.376 --> 00:53:51.315
a full stadium,

00:53:51.795 --> 00:53:52.936
like those guys want to

00:53:52.996 --> 00:53:55.257
feel what Lane Stadium is.

00:53:55.336 --> 00:53:55.476
Yeah.

00:53:55.978 --> 00:53:56.659
You know what I'm saying?

00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:56.958
So, like,

00:53:56.978 --> 00:53:58.259
they want to see what the live

00:53:58.378 --> 00:54:00.320
action is because you either, you know,

00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.519
have heard about it or you've seen it or,

00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:02.820
you know,

00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:04.121
they've been pumping noise to

00:54:04.141 --> 00:54:05.101
you or people who've played

00:54:05.121 --> 00:54:05.900
have talked to you about it.

00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:06.960
So you want to give them

00:54:06.981 --> 00:54:08.400
some kind of taste of it because,

00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:10.222
you know, they're going to be juiced.

00:54:10.541 --> 00:54:10.742
You know,

00:54:10.762 --> 00:54:12.222
they're going to be juiced to be

00:54:12.262 --> 00:54:13.181
out there and perform in

00:54:13.222 --> 00:54:16.643
front of the home fans.

00:54:16.722 --> 00:54:18.242
But then also, you know,

00:54:18.302 --> 00:54:19.242
it just gives you a segue

00:54:19.282 --> 00:54:20.382
to go into the season.

00:54:20.523 --> 00:54:22.443
So I'd like to see them get

00:54:22.463 --> 00:54:23.023
a little bit of a run.

00:54:23.766 --> 00:54:24.025
You know,

00:54:24.246 --> 00:54:26.128
I don't want to bring up

00:54:26.407 --> 00:54:27.228
something that we brought

00:54:27.289 --> 00:54:28.610
up the last two off seasons.

00:54:28.690 --> 00:54:31.472
But, you know, the press are having a day.

00:54:31.492 --> 00:54:31.773
You know,

00:54:31.793 --> 00:54:32.954
probably was talking about some folks.

00:54:32.974 --> 00:54:34.315
And you know whose name came up, right?

00:54:35.416 --> 00:54:36.677
Whose name came up, Brian?

00:54:36.697 --> 00:54:38.159
Jaden Keller's name came up.

00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:40.541
Jaden Keller's crushing it, guys.

00:54:42.603 --> 00:54:43.543
The difference that I'm

00:54:43.583 --> 00:54:44.945
hearing in this one, though,

00:54:45.025 --> 00:54:46.766
is that – and he brought it

00:54:46.905 --> 00:54:47.907
up when he was talking about it.

00:54:47.927 --> 00:54:48.307
He's like –

00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.021
He's always been a great practice player.

00:54:51.101 --> 00:54:51.802
He's starting to put it

00:54:51.842 --> 00:54:53.063
together in the scrimmages.

00:54:53.483 --> 00:54:54.485
He's starting to see

00:54:54.644 --> 00:54:56.146
consistency in the scrimmages.

00:54:57.166 --> 00:54:58.086
And hopefully that

00:54:58.166 --> 00:55:00.728
translates to being more

00:55:00.768 --> 00:55:03.550
consistent in games come fall.

00:55:03.831 --> 00:55:06.413
Because we've seen the potential there.

00:55:06.452 --> 00:55:08.974
We've seen good athleticism,

00:55:10.456 --> 00:55:11.416
brings the lumber,

00:55:11.516 --> 00:55:13.177
but just hasn't always been

00:55:13.538 --> 00:55:14.818
a very consistent player

00:55:14.898 --> 00:55:15.960
once he gets on the field.

00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:17.960
So we'll see if that translates.

00:55:17.981 --> 00:55:18.842
Let's go around.

00:55:20.103 --> 00:55:21.724
I think, like,

00:55:21.864 --> 00:55:23.706
one of our big problems that we've had,

00:55:23.846 --> 00:55:24.065
you know,

00:55:24.085 --> 00:55:25.806
at Virginia Tech for a long time is that,

00:55:26.288 --> 00:55:28.469
like, we didn't have, you know,

00:55:28.530 --> 00:55:30.891
the luxury of letting players, like,

00:55:30.931 --> 00:55:31.371
develop.

00:55:31.472 --> 00:55:32.032
You know what I'm saying?

00:55:32.052 --> 00:55:32.152
Like,

00:55:32.172 --> 00:55:33.492
when we got somebody and they had

00:55:33.552 --> 00:55:36.135
something, like, you got to fucking play.

00:55:36.735 --> 00:55:38.476
We don't have anybody else.

00:55:38.516 --> 00:55:39.378
You got to go play.

00:55:39.858 --> 00:55:40.918
So, you know,

00:55:41.018 --> 00:55:41.840
sometimes we didn't have

00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.121
leadership in certain rooms

00:55:43.201 --> 00:55:43.960
or we didn't have, like,

00:55:43.981 --> 00:55:45.963
because all of them, they all may be.

00:55:46.023 --> 00:55:48.264
Dax played way too many snaps in 2018.

00:55:50.273 --> 00:55:50.793
Right, right.

00:55:50.932 --> 00:55:51.572
You know what I mean?

00:55:51.592 --> 00:55:52.873
So, just things like that.

00:55:52.974 --> 00:55:53.213
So,

00:55:53.653 --> 00:55:55.313
I think with them bringing in certain

00:55:55.333 --> 00:55:56.434
players and then having a

00:55:56.454 --> 00:55:58.855
little bit of experience

00:55:58.894 --> 00:55:59.635
and things like that,

00:55:59.675 --> 00:56:02.456
and maybe it's more than football.

00:56:02.516 --> 00:56:02.675
Like,

00:56:02.715 --> 00:56:05.817
you got to see how somebody attacks

00:56:05.876 --> 00:56:07.757
practice or how somebody, you know,

00:56:09.117 --> 00:56:10.677
goes out and then goes home

00:56:10.717 --> 00:56:11.697
and goes to bed.

00:56:12.038 --> 00:56:12.157
Like,

00:56:12.197 --> 00:56:14.059
you got to see people grow up and be

00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:15.639
men to know how to do that.

00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:17.498
And I'm not saying that's what, you know,

00:56:17.579 --> 00:56:19.079
Keller's problem may have been,

00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:19.420
but that's

00:56:20.083 --> 00:56:21.563
Like that's what college

00:56:21.784 --> 00:56:22.724
athletes go through.

00:56:22.764 --> 00:56:24.144
So if you got everybody

00:56:24.164 --> 00:56:25.505
that's kind of at that same

00:56:26.646 --> 00:56:27.507
maturity level,

00:56:27.807 --> 00:56:29.449
then it's hard for them to progress.

00:56:30.048 --> 00:56:31.070
But like if you go look at

00:56:31.110 --> 00:56:32.951
like our receiving room right now,

00:56:33.150 --> 00:56:33.831
you know what I'm saying?

00:56:33.871 --> 00:56:35.572
Like we got some receivers

00:56:35.612 --> 00:56:37.012
that have some experience,

00:56:37.052 --> 00:56:38.873
so they're able to talk to

00:56:38.893 --> 00:56:40.994
the younger receivers about, you know,

00:56:41.034 --> 00:56:41.715
things you can do.

00:56:42.815 --> 00:56:44.617
when you make a mistake or

00:56:45.077 --> 00:56:46.538
coming out of your break this way.

00:56:47.117 --> 00:56:49.059
Or like I said, even after practice,

00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:50.699
maybe you don't need to go play the game.

00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:52.840
Maybe you need to go get in the cold tub,

00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.061
or maybe you need to get in the hot tub,

00:56:54.402 --> 00:56:55.342
just things like that.

00:56:55.422 --> 00:56:58.322
So I think having somebody

00:56:58.342 --> 00:56:59.244
like Brumfield come in,

00:56:59.284 --> 00:57:00.384
cuz they talk about how

00:57:00.423 --> 00:57:01.485
super smart he is.

00:57:02.545 --> 00:57:03.784
just like off the field.

00:57:04.425 --> 00:57:05.365
So I'm sure like he's

00:57:05.385 --> 00:57:06.565
probably taking care of his body.

00:57:06.585 --> 00:57:07.005
He's like,

00:57:07.246 --> 00:57:08.326
I think he may have like a 4.0

00:57:08.326 --> 00:57:09.085
or something.

00:57:09.385 --> 00:57:10.445
I got to go back and look at it.

00:57:10.465 --> 00:57:11.786
But he's got, you know,

00:57:11.847 --> 00:57:13.027
they say he's super smart.

00:57:13.047 --> 00:57:14.186
So I'm sure he's telling

00:57:14.306 --> 00:57:15.427
that linebacker room like,

00:57:15.927 --> 00:57:16.748
this is what I do.

00:57:17.427 --> 00:57:18.887
You know, this is how I do it.

00:57:19.268 --> 00:57:20.447
So I'm hoping people follow

00:57:20.487 --> 00:57:22.949
that lead and move forward.

00:57:22.969 --> 00:57:24.188
Because what's our guy named

00:57:24.208 --> 00:57:25.208
that came in last year?

00:57:27.068 --> 00:57:28.550
The cornerback that left.

00:57:30.090 --> 00:57:30.289
Shoot.

00:57:32.096 --> 00:57:33.175
He went to Cincinnati.

00:57:33.755 --> 00:57:34.195
Yeah.

00:57:34.295 --> 00:57:35.237
What's his name?

00:57:35.416 --> 00:57:36.436
I just lost his name.

00:57:37.277 --> 00:57:39.657
Sheldon, you got anybody?

00:57:40.438 --> 00:57:41.458
Brian, you can't remember my guy.

00:57:41.518 --> 00:57:43.978
I got it came in last year.

00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:44.659
From Georgia.

00:57:44.998 --> 00:57:45.199
Yeah,

00:57:45.219 --> 00:57:47.318
it came from like Georgia Southern or

00:57:47.338 --> 00:57:48.099
something.

00:57:48.318 --> 00:57:49.019
Oh, my God.

00:57:49.059 --> 00:57:50.219
Yeah, why are we playing?

00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:52.300
Canteen.

00:57:52.340 --> 00:57:53.701
Yeah.

00:57:54.201 --> 00:57:54.661
So, yeah,

00:57:54.701 --> 00:57:56.121
like when you think about Canteen

00:57:56.161 --> 00:57:57.641
coming in, you know what I'm saying,

00:57:57.661 --> 00:57:58.802
last year and everybody

00:57:58.882 --> 00:58:00.461
raved about how he –

00:58:00.461 --> 00:58:02.222
how he attacked practice and

00:58:02.623 --> 00:58:04.443
how he was such a like have

00:58:04.483 --> 00:58:06.543
a pro mindset and then you

00:58:06.583 --> 00:58:07.724
go look at on the field

00:58:07.764 --> 00:58:08.503
like we had a lot of

00:58:08.563 --> 00:58:10.224
adversity right so we had a

00:58:10.264 --> 00:58:11.565
lot of adversity but we had

00:58:11.585 --> 00:58:12.985
a lot of young guys but if

00:58:13.005 --> 00:58:14.065
you look at how they grew

00:58:14.246 --> 00:58:15.206
up that's because they have

00:58:15.246 --> 00:58:16.327
some you know they have

00:58:16.367 --> 00:58:17.327
some leadership in front of

00:58:17.347 --> 00:58:20.568
them like um uh dorian

00:58:20.608 --> 00:58:22.429
strong and canteen those

00:58:22.449 --> 00:58:23.389
guys and then like

00:58:24.101 --> 00:58:25.882
mansoor he's young you know

00:58:26.202 --> 00:58:27.762
he played great but he was

00:58:27.802 --> 00:58:29.543
young so you know canteen

00:58:29.583 --> 00:58:30.824
came in and he was able to

00:58:31.244 --> 00:58:33.184
to help just like lift the

00:58:33.244 --> 00:58:34.905
floor of that room so I

00:58:34.945 --> 00:58:35.965
think that's what you want

00:58:35.985 --> 00:58:36.786
when you bring in those

00:58:36.865 --> 00:58:38.847
older guys yeah 100 I think

00:58:39.047 --> 00:58:40.248
also thank y'all chat thank

00:58:40.268 --> 00:58:41.427
y'all chat for for letting

00:58:41.447 --> 00:58:42.608
me know look at that look

00:58:42.648 --> 00:58:44.128
at our miami guy hopping in

00:58:44.148 --> 00:58:45.248
there he even knows it he

00:58:45.268 --> 00:58:46.889
even knows he even knows him

00:58:48.074 --> 00:58:48.976
But I think the other thing

00:58:49.016 --> 00:58:50.096
about the Brumfield piece

00:58:50.155 --> 00:58:51.456
is what it's going to do to

00:58:51.516 --> 00:58:52.557
help the other positions.

00:58:52.617 --> 00:58:53.637
Because we know like Caleb

00:58:53.657 --> 00:58:54.918
Woodson's playing some will.

00:58:54.978 --> 00:58:56.880
We know we've got McDonald playing will.

00:58:57.739 --> 00:59:00.081
Obviously, the way Prye has mentioned it,

00:59:00.302 --> 00:59:01.461
Keller's playing will.

00:59:02.063 --> 00:59:03.443
And to have a guy who knows

00:59:03.563 --> 00:59:05.063
exactly what's going to go

00:59:05.364 --> 00:59:06.764
on on every play where

00:59:06.784 --> 00:59:08.085
everybody's supposed to be

00:59:08.385 --> 00:59:09.447
every single time.

00:59:10.690 --> 00:59:12.152
That's what we were missing last year.

00:59:12.172 --> 00:59:13.413
It was like if we could roll

00:59:13.472 --> 00:59:14.693
reverse and have – if we

00:59:14.713 --> 00:59:17.956
got a red shirt at Dax in 2022,

00:59:17.956 --> 00:59:19.659
that defense, which was good last year,

00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:21.099
would have even taken another step.

00:59:21.539 --> 00:59:22.820
So it's interesting to see

00:59:22.900 --> 00:59:24.463
how they – like you're saying, Tally,

00:59:24.483 --> 00:59:25.324
like you're saying, Brian,

00:59:26.605 --> 00:59:27.965
how a guy with that much

00:59:28.045 --> 00:59:29.547
experience who's doing all

00:59:29.567 --> 00:59:30.407
the right stuff,

00:59:30.768 --> 00:59:31.949
not only off the field but

00:59:32.028 --> 00:59:33.570
making the right calls on the field,

00:59:34.675 --> 00:59:36.916
how much more confidence that can come.

00:59:37.396 --> 00:59:37.556
Now,

00:59:37.697 --> 00:59:39.016
I'm going to flip to the outside

00:59:39.056 --> 00:59:40.356
position because with Starr,

00:59:40.376 --> 00:59:41.498
you know there's Jenkins,

00:59:42.157 --> 00:59:43.838
but the way the room's set

00:59:44.018 --> 00:59:45.878
up with guys like Gabe Williams,

00:59:45.938 --> 00:59:47.498
with Caleb Woodson going inside,

00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:49.019
I think Starr's going to be

00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:49.760
the most fascinating

00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:50.840
position potentially to

00:59:50.900 --> 00:59:52.041
watch on the defensive side

00:59:52.061 --> 00:59:56.581
of the ball because Jenkins

00:59:56.641 --> 00:59:58.461
is going to play –

00:59:58.461 --> 00:59:59.983
But I think some of those

01:00:00.023 --> 01:00:00.842
younger guys are going to

01:00:00.862 --> 01:00:02.483
steal more snaps from him this year.

01:00:03.083 --> 01:00:03.764
And I don't know if it's

01:00:03.784 --> 01:00:05.204
going to be Gabe because we

01:00:05.244 --> 01:00:07.846
heard from Robbie just last week.

01:00:08.327 --> 01:00:09.746
Gabe was out there running with ones.

01:00:10.807 --> 01:00:11.807
Gabe was out there running

01:00:11.847 --> 01:00:13.869
with the ones as a true freshman.

01:00:14.610 --> 01:00:16.851
And I know that could just

01:00:16.891 --> 01:00:17.751
be – you know what?

01:00:18.050 --> 01:00:19.052
Well, Jenkins was next.

01:00:19.192 --> 01:00:19.431
I mean,

01:00:19.472 --> 01:00:20.952
he was next man up in this case

01:00:20.972 --> 01:00:21.713
because Woodson's been

01:00:21.753 --> 01:00:22.994
working some inside.

01:00:24.293 --> 01:00:27.896
But I think it's going to be good to see –

01:00:27.896 --> 01:00:28.697
Who's working at that

01:00:28.737 --> 01:00:30.137
position not named Jenkins?

01:00:31.077 --> 01:00:31.679
Whether, you know,

01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:35.360
is Woodson still some star, some will?

01:00:36.521 --> 01:00:38.103
Is Gabe kind of the first man up?

01:00:38.222 --> 01:00:39.063
You know,

01:00:39.083 --> 01:00:41.565
I know Gabe from a talent

01:00:41.585 --> 01:00:42.766
standpoint I think is ready.

01:00:42.827 --> 01:00:43.827
I think maybe from a

01:00:43.907 --> 01:00:45.748
physical build maybe isn't

01:00:45.869 --> 01:00:48.150
quite ready for, you know,

01:00:48.190 --> 01:00:51.492
first team or kind of first guy up reps.

01:00:51.512 --> 01:00:53.353
So we'll see if he develops into that.

01:00:54.434 --> 01:00:55.476
I just want to see him out there.

01:00:55.916 --> 01:00:56.155
Yeah.

01:00:56.175 --> 01:00:56.976
A lot of times it don't

01:00:57.016 --> 01:00:57.896
matter if you're ready or not.

01:00:57.936 --> 01:00:58.456
You know what I'm saying?

01:00:58.476 --> 01:01:00.697
When it deals with football or even,

01:01:00.757 --> 01:01:01.038
you know,

01:01:01.197 --> 01:01:03.719
a team that's up and coming like we are.

01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:06.900
Because you think like most Phillips,

01:01:06.940 --> 01:01:07.181
right?

01:01:08.121 --> 01:01:08.740
Was he ready?

01:01:09.081 --> 01:01:09.541
We don't know.

01:01:09.601 --> 01:01:10.541
He looked like he was,

01:01:10.621 --> 01:01:11.963
but his body looked like it was.

01:01:12.023 --> 01:01:13.983
But like somebody is going to get nicked,

01:01:14.123 --> 01:01:14.324
you know,

01:01:14.344 --> 01:01:15.403
and that's one of that's been

01:01:15.463 --> 01:01:16.625
one of Jenkins things like.

01:01:17.637 --> 01:01:19.619
he's had injury problems

01:01:19.659 --> 01:01:21.721
that may not keep him out a long time.

01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:23.702
I don't think he's had super big injuries,

01:01:23.742 --> 01:01:25.443
but he's had those nagging

01:01:25.503 --> 01:01:26.625
injuries and things like that,

01:01:26.664 --> 01:01:27.286
so we've got to find

01:01:27.306 --> 01:01:29.567
somebody to go in behind him.

01:01:29.927 --> 01:01:31.309
He's got Nick there in games

01:01:31.329 --> 01:01:32.208
where he's missed a quarter.

01:01:32.228 --> 01:01:33.050
Right.

01:01:33.469 --> 01:01:36.012
What you don't need is, again,

01:01:36.032 --> 01:01:37.152
this year's that perfect year.

01:01:37.193 --> 01:01:38.813
The young guy, hey, listen,

01:01:39.275 --> 01:01:39.994
he just got Nick.

01:01:40.215 --> 01:01:40.956
You've got to play the whole

01:01:40.996 --> 01:01:41.516
second quarter,

01:01:41.536 --> 01:01:43.137
and you've got to be ready to play.

01:01:43.518 --> 01:01:46.019
This is a very big position for us.

01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:48.742
Put up Leroy's statement right here.

01:01:48.802 --> 01:01:49.222
Leroy,

01:01:49.302 --> 01:01:51.184
because we're going to go to that room.

01:01:51.244 --> 01:01:51.585
Sheldon,

01:01:51.686 --> 01:01:52.887
anything on the linebacker room

01:01:52.927 --> 01:01:54.007
you're looking for this week?

01:01:54.068 --> 01:01:54.989
I know we've been talking.

01:01:55.009 --> 01:01:57.172
Sheldon's been there calmly, you know,

01:01:57.251 --> 01:01:58.233
finding canteens.

01:01:58.273 --> 01:02:00.054
Anything you're looking for in that room?

01:02:01.195 --> 01:02:02.818
I mean, just to see how Brumfield plays.

01:02:02.838 --> 01:02:03.338
Like, I was –

01:02:04.271 --> 01:02:05.271
I was watching his interview

01:02:05.431 --> 01:02:07.072
on the Hocus Sports YouTube channel,

01:02:07.092 --> 01:02:09.413
and that dude is just absolutely jacked,

01:02:09.472 --> 01:02:09.672
man.

01:02:09.713 --> 01:02:13.333
Like, I cannot wait to have that size.

01:02:13.454 --> 01:02:16.855
And he seems like a really good dude, too.

01:02:17.715 --> 01:02:19.315
Just has his mind right and

01:02:19.376 --> 01:02:21.536
seems like he is a really

01:02:21.556 --> 01:02:22.217
good team player.

01:02:22.257 --> 01:02:24.916
So I can't wait to see where

01:02:24.936 --> 01:02:26.297
he kind of fits in and just

01:02:26.498 --> 01:02:27.197
to have someone who can

01:02:27.237 --> 01:02:31.141
make plays and play with their –

01:02:31.141 --> 01:02:33.123
With their heels going forward, I guess,

01:02:33.143 --> 01:02:34.065
for lack of a better term.

01:02:34.545 --> 01:02:35.788
And just with an edge and

01:02:35.849 --> 01:02:37.871
not always putting on the heels.

01:02:38.291 --> 01:02:39.034
That's something that this

01:02:39.054 --> 01:02:39.855
linebacker room really needs.

01:02:39.954 --> 01:02:40.755
So I'm looking to see how it

01:02:40.775 --> 01:02:41.356
kind of fits in there.

01:02:41.878 --> 01:02:42.038
Yeah.

01:02:42.338 --> 01:02:44.282
And just so, like, Tyler, you were asking.

01:02:45.398 --> 01:02:47.039
there's tape out there on Brumfield.

01:02:47.059 --> 01:02:48.280
They played against Alabama

01:02:48.340 --> 01:02:49.282
and Missouri last year.

01:02:49.641 --> 01:02:51.302
He had 10 tackles in those games.

01:02:51.322 --> 01:02:52.284
He had a forced fumble,

01:02:52.844 --> 01:02:54.144
two tackles for loss and a sack.

01:02:54.625 --> 01:02:56.206
So he's played against elite competition.

01:02:56.246 --> 01:02:57.586
And, you know, to me, we'll say, well,

01:02:57.626 --> 01:02:59.389
he got his stuff late.

01:02:59.509 --> 01:03:00.849
He got all like, I don't care.

01:03:01.309 --> 01:03:02.010
Cause even if you're playing

01:03:02.030 --> 01:03:03.411
the third stringers against those teams,

01:03:03.431 --> 01:03:04.952
you're playing against good competition.

01:03:05.032 --> 01:03:06.833
So that'll be interesting to see.

01:03:06.974 --> 01:03:07.853
Let's flip it over.

01:03:08.034 --> 01:03:08.994
We already had the man

01:03:09.034 --> 01:03:09.735
mentioned that Leroy

01:03:09.775 --> 01:03:10.556
mentioned it down here

01:03:10.596 --> 01:03:11.376
about most Phillips,

01:03:11.817 --> 01:03:13.137
the defensive back room.

01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:14.119
Um,

01:03:15.298 --> 01:03:16.119
And the safety.

01:03:16.139 --> 01:03:17.679
A lot of competition in there, man.

01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:21.260
It's a lot of competition in those rooms.

01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:22.061
You know what I'm saying?

01:03:22.081 --> 01:03:24.300
So the reason we brought

01:03:24.362 --> 01:03:25.742
most Phillips name up, I mean,

01:03:25.782 --> 01:03:27.202
it's kind of like we've

01:03:27.242 --> 01:03:28.443
seen him in the in the

01:03:28.463 --> 01:03:29.463
spring game last year.

01:03:29.503 --> 01:03:29.702
Right.

01:03:30.402 --> 01:03:31.063
You know what I'm saying?

01:03:31.123 --> 01:03:33.063
It's like, damn, you know,

01:03:33.123 --> 01:03:34.503
it's going to be some BMS awards.

01:03:34.543 --> 01:03:35.684
But you like you look at him.

01:03:36.065 --> 01:03:36.605
He wasn't like.

01:03:37.264 --> 01:03:38.605
you know, abnormally big,

01:03:38.644 --> 01:03:39.905
like we seen some people,

01:03:40.005 --> 01:03:41.005
but at the same time,

01:03:41.045 --> 01:03:42.826
like he was well built for

01:03:42.945 --> 01:03:44.726
a freshman to think about, oh,

01:03:44.766 --> 01:03:45.766
he's supposed to be in high school,

01:03:45.806 --> 01:03:46.806
but he's already playing

01:03:47.146 --> 01:03:48.786
and he was thumping like he was hitting.

01:03:49.266 --> 01:03:50.686
So we knew like, oh, well,

01:03:50.706 --> 01:03:51.646
he might get some run.

01:03:51.666 --> 01:03:52.588
I think if we go back,

01:03:52.668 --> 01:03:53.748
I had to go back and look at the tape.

01:03:54.068 --> 01:03:54.947
I think we talk about where

01:03:54.967 --> 01:03:56.228
he'd probably be a good, you know,

01:03:56.268 --> 01:03:57.327
special teams player,

01:03:58.208 --> 01:03:59.289
get some snaps like that.

01:03:59.349 --> 01:04:01.028
But somebody gets hurt.

01:04:01.128 --> 01:04:01.989
You next man up.

01:04:02.628 --> 01:04:03.628
And then he went in.

01:04:04.070 --> 01:04:05.570
Yeah, he went in and he played.

01:04:05.730 --> 01:04:06.550
You know, he played.

01:04:07.244 --> 01:04:11.166
admirable for the age that he is.

01:04:11.668 --> 01:04:13.889
So, yeah, seeing him again, you know,

01:04:13.929 --> 01:04:16.210
watching a little film on him and seeing,

01:04:16.369 --> 01:04:18.050
like, his growth and stuff like that.

01:04:18.090 --> 01:04:19.012
Like, Leroy, I'm with you.

01:04:19.231 --> 01:04:20.172
I believe he is ready.

01:04:21.152 --> 01:04:22.012
And we need all that,

01:04:22.072 --> 01:04:22.574
you know what I'm saying?

01:04:22.594 --> 01:04:24.635
Because iron's got to sharpen iron,

01:04:24.675 --> 01:04:25.454
you know what I'm saying?

01:04:25.554 --> 01:04:26.795
And somebody's going to get nicked.

01:04:26.815 --> 01:04:28.056
Somebody's going to turn their ankle.

01:04:28.456 --> 01:04:29.157
And I don't want any of

01:04:29.177 --> 01:04:30.057
these kids to get hurt,

01:04:30.077 --> 01:04:30.717
but it's football.

01:04:30.737 --> 01:04:32.199
Somebody's going to, you know,

01:04:32.239 --> 01:04:33.280
get their hand smashed in

01:04:33.300 --> 01:04:34.380
the helmet and have to come out.

01:04:34.460 --> 01:04:35.880
So that one play,

01:04:36.704 --> 01:04:37.764
It's usually the play that

01:04:37.784 --> 01:04:39.806
we get gashed or we get a

01:04:39.887 --> 01:04:41.148
bomb thrown on us because

01:04:41.188 --> 01:04:42.108
we have to throw somebody

01:04:42.148 --> 01:04:43.371
in there that's not ready to go.

01:04:43.471 --> 01:04:45.172
So if you got that next man

01:04:45.231 --> 01:04:46.693
up that goes in there and plays sometimes,

01:04:46.713 --> 01:04:47.715
that's how you get your spot.

01:04:48.648 --> 01:04:48.809
Yep.

01:04:49.188 --> 01:04:50.409
And I think we're looking at, you know,

01:04:50.710 --> 01:04:54.530
you talked about most Phillips last year.

01:04:54.550 --> 01:04:55.530
I think we're looking at

01:04:55.570 --> 01:04:58.032
back-to-back years of true

01:04:58.072 --> 01:04:59.351
freshman safeties coming in

01:04:59.391 --> 01:05:01.012
and being contributors in year one.

01:05:01.652 --> 01:05:02.512
Phillips last year,

01:05:02.532 --> 01:05:03.614
I think you go ahead and

01:05:03.653 --> 01:05:07.255
mark Quentin Reddish in that bucket.

01:05:07.735 --> 01:05:09.315
And I think we're going to

01:05:09.356 --> 01:05:10.755
see a lot of him in the spring game,

01:05:10.775 --> 01:05:11.416
and I think we're going to

01:05:11.436 --> 01:05:12.277
see probably more than a

01:05:12.336 --> 01:05:13.456
lot of people expected of

01:05:13.496 --> 01:05:14.677
him come the fall.

01:05:16.798 --> 01:05:18.347
I know it's a position that we are

01:05:19.842 --> 01:05:21.202
We're getting more depth there,

01:05:21.222 --> 01:05:22.344
but it's still a very young

01:05:22.403 --> 01:05:24.125
position outside of one or two guys.

01:05:25.505 --> 01:05:26.626
Or at least inexperienced

01:05:26.646 --> 01:05:27.387
when you think about a guy

01:05:27.407 --> 01:05:28.208
like Jalen Jones that's

01:05:28.228 --> 01:05:29.009
only been playing the

01:05:29.369 --> 01:05:30.449
position for one year.

01:05:31.451 --> 01:05:32.711
But a lot of competition for

01:05:32.751 --> 01:05:34.773
that two-deep rotation.

01:05:35.434 --> 01:05:36.934
You've got about six guys

01:05:36.994 --> 01:05:37.875
now that are going to, I think,

01:05:37.914 --> 01:05:38.596
be heavy in that

01:05:38.635 --> 01:05:40.617
competition leading up to

01:05:40.637 --> 01:05:41.478
the start of the season.

01:05:41.538 --> 01:05:42.659
So I'm interested to see

01:05:42.699 --> 01:05:43.699
some of these younger guys

01:05:44.260 --> 01:05:45.141
get out there and show us

01:05:45.181 --> 01:05:46.442
what they can do in the spring game.

01:05:47.181 --> 01:05:47.922
showing anything on the

01:05:47.963 --> 01:05:49.704
safety room other than, I mean,

01:05:49.724 --> 01:05:51.545
I think we're going to see,

01:05:51.565 --> 01:05:53.268
it's going to be a lot of

01:05:53.307 --> 01:05:53.989
safeties on the field.

01:05:54.009 --> 01:05:55.489
I don't think even most is going to get,

01:05:56.150 --> 01:05:57.070
uh, a lot of rest.

01:05:58.192 --> 01:05:58.432
Yeah.

01:05:58.472 --> 01:05:58.693
I mean,

01:05:58.713 --> 01:06:00.034
they played a ton of guys last year

01:06:00.054 --> 01:06:00.554
at that spot.

01:06:00.614 --> 01:06:01.916
I know probably due to injuries and,

01:06:01.996 --> 01:06:03.157
you know, guys getting ejected,

01:06:03.177 --> 01:06:06.380
like Woodson, Stroman, Jones, Phillips,

01:06:07.041 --> 01:06:07.121
uh,

01:06:07.791 --> 01:06:09.032
Jenkins people.

01:06:09.052 --> 01:06:10.612
That's one thing we know about Truman.

01:06:10.793 --> 01:06:12.974
He getting ejected.

01:06:13.534 --> 01:06:14.675
Well, it will continue to happen.

01:06:14.695 --> 01:06:15.777
So they played, I mean,

01:06:15.936 --> 01:06:17.637
they probably play like six or seven guys,

01:06:17.677 --> 01:06:18.119
like, you know,

01:06:18.219 --> 01:06:19.320
over a hundred snaps there.

01:06:19.579 --> 01:06:21.260
Um, they did not add any,

01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:23.762
any safeties via the transfer portal.

01:06:24.302 --> 01:06:25.204
So it seems like pride and

01:06:25.244 --> 01:06:26.284
staff are kind of, you know,

01:06:26.324 --> 01:06:27.244
betting on some of those

01:06:27.264 --> 01:06:29.086
younger guys stepping up and, you know,

01:06:29.106 --> 01:06:31.548
obviously with, um, with, uh,

01:06:31.588 --> 01:06:33.150
with Jenkins, um,

01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:35.222
And Sherman kind of leading the way.

01:06:35.262 --> 01:06:36.382
That's, you know, that's a good thing.

01:06:36.481 --> 01:06:37.163
So, I mean,

01:06:37.182 --> 01:06:37.922
it seems like they're counting

01:06:37.983 --> 01:06:40.105
on that room to kind of be, you know,

01:06:40.125 --> 01:06:40.744
take the next leap.

01:06:40.945 --> 01:06:41.925
And so I'm going to trust

01:06:41.945 --> 01:06:42.925
the staff and hope they can do that.

01:06:42.965 --> 01:06:44.367
So I think, I guess we can,

01:06:44.387 --> 01:06:45.447
it'll be a little bit of a

01:06:45.487 --> 01:06:46.288
precursor that we'll see if

01:06:46.307 --> 01:06:47.048
they can step up.

01:06:47.885 --> 01:06:48.666
Absolutely.

01:06:48.726 --> 01:06:50.887
All right, let's go just real quick,

01:06:50.927 --> 01:06:51.507
corner room.

01:06:52.447 --> 01:06:53.467
Strong, the lane,

01:06:53.507 --> 01:06:54.829
we know that's locked down.

01:06:54.849 --> 01:06:56.590
I think what we've seen,

01:06:57.610 --> 01:07:00.371
it's going to be Lovett, Johnson,

01:07:01.313 --> 01:07:02.273
and who's the third that

01:07:02.313 --> 01:07:02.954
comes out of there?

01:07:02.994 --> 01:07:03.934
Do y'all have anybody?

01:07:03.954 --> 01:07:04.974
Because Lovett and Johnson

01:07:04.994 --> 01:07:05.556
are going to play.

01:07:06.036 --> 01:07:07.277
They played last year and –

01:07:08.376 --> 01:07:10.378
We'll take a phrase that Tally said.

01:07:10.398 --> 01:07:11.981
They played admirably last year.

01:07:12.621 --> 01:07:14.023
To be true freshmen,

01:07:14.262 --> 01:07:16.485
they both played very admirably.

01:07:17.065 --> 01:07:18.686
But obviously you want that

01:07:18.766 --> 01:07:20.208
fifth and sixth because

01:07:20.528 --> 01:07:22.871
what it is is when you go to nickel,

01:07:23.992 --> 01:07:25.994
we know Dorian's likely going to slide.

01:07:26.914 --> 01:07:28.396
We want more than just one guy.

01:07:28.456 --> 01:07:30.918
So who is it?

01:07:31.018 --> 01:07:32.661
What's the name that come –

01:07:33.563 --> 01:07:36.186
come Monday or come Sunday afternoon,

01:07:36.586 --> 01:07:38.047
because Tally and me are

01:07:38.068 --> 01:07:38.807
going to probably watch it

01:07:38.827 --> 01:07:39.568
later in the day.

01:07:39.969 --> 01:07:40.789
Sheldon's going to probably

01:07:40.889 --> 01:07:42.731
watch it in San Antonio late night.

01:07:43.813 --> 01:07:44.992
What's the one name we're

01:07:45.014 --> 01:07:46.034
going to say that kids are

01:07:46.054 --> 01:07:47.394
going to get a ton of snaps this year?

01:07:47.414 --> 01:07:50.818
I don't know.

01:07:51.858 --> 01:07:54.081
I don't even have an answer.

01:07:54.201 --> 01:07:55.242
Brian, who do you think it?

01:07:56.414 --> 01:07:56.873
You know what?

01:07:56.934 --> 01:07:58.014
I'm going dark horse here,

01:07:58.034 --> 01:07:58.715
and I'm keeping it

01:07:59.076 --> 01:08:00.496
consistent in the secondary

01:08:00.536 --> 01:08:01.657
with true freshmen coming

01:08:01.717 --> 01:08:03.398
in and making a little bit of noise.

01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:04.858
I think we're going to see

01:08:04.898 --> 01:08:06.219
more of Joshua Clark than I

01:08:06.239 --> 01:08:07.141
think a lot of people think.

01:08:07.161 --> 01:08:08.701
All right.

01:08:10.322 --> 01:08:11.643
John, you got any feelings on this?

01:08:13.724 --> 01:08:14.864
Maybe Dante Lovett.

01:08:16.246 --> 01:08:16.506
All right.

01:08:18.426 --> 01:08:21.288
I definitely think Lovett's there.

01:08:21.389 --> 01:08:22.189
It's really tough to shy

01:08:22.250 --> 01:08:23.831
away from Clark because of the build,

01:08:24.131 --> 01:08:25.110
but I'd say keep an eye on

01:08:25.131 --> 01:08:25.752
Jonathan Penix.

01:08:27.042 --> 01:08:27.863
Keep an eye on Jonathan

01:08:27.903 --> 01:08:31.806
Penix because I think that room,

01:08:31.987 --> 01:08:33.708
I think there's, after spring,

01:08:33.729 --> 01:08:36.372
I think at least one corner's leaving.

01:08:37.250 --> 01:08:38.170
just like I think there's at

01:08:38.210 --> 01:08:40.350
least one safety leaving at

01:08:40.371 --> 01:08:40.971
the end of spring.

01:08:41.771 --> 01:08:42.912
Another guy to keep an eye

01:08:42.931 --> 01:08:43.613
on probably is going to be

01:08:43.632 --> 01:08:44.332
Christian Williams.

01:08:44.412 --> 01:08:46.753
I know they said he was Nick,

01:08:46.793 --> 01:08:48.373
but Price said he should be

01:08:48.435 --> 01:08:50.595
ready to go for spring games.

01:08:51.115 --> 01:08:55.396
Now I'm going to say why I

01:08:55.457 --> 01:08:56.978
like Price's system because

01:08:57.578 --> 01:08:58.599
with doing this,

01:09:00.338 --> 01:09:01.239
those guys are going to get

01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.480
so much playing time.

01:09:04.761 --> 01:09:05.761
So much playing time this

01:09:05.801 --> 01:09:07.042
week because Dorian

01:09:07.454 --> 01:09:09.015
And all the guys we know that can play,

01:09:09.036 --> 01:09:09.796
they're off the field.

01:09:10.497 --> 01:09:10.657
Yeah.

01:09:10.877 --> 01:09:12.097
You're already splitting

01:09:12.238 --> 01:09:13.497
your number one and number two,

01:09:14.118 --> 01:09:15.059
and then you take away the

01:09:15.099 --> 01:09:16.100
fact they're probably only

01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:17.399
going to play for one quarter max.

01:09:17.460 --> 01:09:19.060
So those young guys are

01:09:19.081 --> 01:09:19.801
going to get a lot of run.

01:09:19.841 --> 01:09:20.662
I'm excited to see it.

01:09:22.042 --> 01:09:22.523
All righty.

01:09:22.542 --> 01:09:24.163
So that closes out the defense.

01:09:24.743 --> 01:09:25.545
Now let's go to the

01:09:25.625 --> 01:09:27.105
offensive side of the football,

01:09:27.326 --> 01:09:28.246
where Tally's already

01:09:28.265 --> 01:09:29.266
stated everything he wants

01:09:29.306 --> 01:09:30.087
to state on three of the

01:09:30.106 --> 01:09:30.988
four position rooms.

01:09:31.287 --> 01:09:31.828
I know what he's going to

01:09:31.847 --> 01:09:32.849
say at the offensive line,

01:09:32.868 --> 01:09:34.270
but I'll let him get that in in a minute.

01:09:35.970 --> 01:09:36.791
Quarterback room.

01:09:37.563 --> 01:09:39.344
We know it's going to be no contact.

01:09:40.886 --> 01:09:42.226
And to me,

01:09:43.006 --> 01:09:44.748
after Kyron plays his two series,

01:09:46.930 --> 01:09:48.470
Pop and Dylan,

01:09:48.912 --> 01:09:49.872
somebody got to show out

01:09:51.753 --> 01:09:54.756
because these guys are the same class.

01:09:54.775 --> 01:09:55.777
They're the same age.

01:09:55.817 --> 01:09:57.438
They both redshirted last year.

01:09:59.118 --> 01:10:00.980
Whoever pops is going to be the backup.

01:10:03.171 --> 01:10:03.851
No pun intended.

01:10:05.613 --> 01:10:07.015
He said the name already.

01:10:07.034 --> 01:10:09.618
So perfect.

01:10:10.177 --> 01:10:10.359
Yep.

01:10:10.618 --> 01:10:10.958
Yeah.

01:10:10.998 --> 01:10:11.920
I mean, that's what it is.

01:10:12.020 --> 01:10:12.740
Go ahead, Brian.

01:10:13.161 --> 01:10:14.462
I was just going to say that, you know,

01:10:14.882 --> 01:10:15.103
from,

01:10:15.463 --> 01:10:16.704
from what it sounds like from what

01:10:16.744 --> 01:10:17.445
probably saying at the

01:10:17.485 --> 01:10:19.587
press earlier today, you know,

01:10:19.948 --> 01:10:20.828
we'd keep probably a little

01:10:20.849 --> 01:10:21.810
bit better grasp of the

01:10:21.850 --> 01:10:23.171
system at the start of spring,

01:10:23.212 --> 01:10:24.233
but it seems like pop has

01:10:24.252 --> 01:10:25.594
kind of passed him in terms of,

01:10:26.488 --> 01:10:27.569
day-to-day production what

01:10:27.609 --> 01:10:28.551
he's done in the scrimmages

01:10:28.570 --> 01:10:30.833
um you know we saw him you

01:10:31.614 --> 01:10:32.676
know throw throw a few

01:10:32.716 --> 01:10:34.538
darts last year he's he's

01:10:35.420 --> 01:10:38.103
really fast too he runs

01:10:38.143 --> 01:10:40.627
really well so it looks

01:10:40.667 --> 01:10:42.208
like he's put on a little bit more weight

01:10:43.229 --> 01:10:44.229
compared to where he was as

01:10:44.270 --> 01:10:44.930
a true freshman.

01:10:44.951 --> 01:10:45.811
So I'm looking forward to

01:10:45.851 --> 01:10:47.932
seeing what he's going to

01:10:47.953 --> 01:10:48.734
bring to the table.

01:10:49.293 --> 01:10:50.996
I feel like he is going to

01:10:51.036 --> 01:10:53.016
be – I think he's going to

01:10:53.037 --> 01:10:53.858
win the backup battle.

01:10:53.898 --> 01:10:54.819
I think Whitkey's going to

01:10:54.859 --> 01:10:56.500
be still a guy that's going

01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:58.662
to be in the mix some.

01:10:59.442 --> 01:11:00.082
But does he stay?

01:11:00.103 --> 01:11:00.682
Through fall,

01:11:00.722 --> 01:11:02.925
but it's hard to – I think he stays.

01:11:02.984 --> 01:11:03.564
I think he stays.

01:11:03.586 --> 01:11:03.966
I don't –

01:11:05.671 --> 01:11:07.172
It's, it's hard to, it's hard to say.

01:11:07.193 --> 01:11:09.015
I don't think we can afford

01:11:09.055 --> 01:11:10.296
him to leave just because

01:11:10.336 --> 01:11:11.115
we don't have that many

01:11:11.577 --> 01:11:12.978
scholarship quarterbacks on the roster.

01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:15.640
If we had one more

01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:17.001
scholarship quarterback on the roster,

01:11:17.041 --> 01:11:19.063
but I, you know, you got Dobby coming in.

01:11:19.323 --> 01:11:19.483
Yeah.

01:11:19.502 --> 01:11:20.783
Dobby's coming in in the summer.

01:11:20.823 --> 01:11:23.405
So yeah, you do.

01:11:24.327 --> 01:11:25.587
Brian's like, that ain't,

01:11:25.608 --> 01:11:26.229
that ain't enough.

01:11:26.628 --> 01:11:28.350
But I don't necessarily know

01:11:28.369 --> 01:11:29.610
if I want a true freshman a

01:11:29.650 --> 01:11:32.934
month and a half into his, uh,

01:11:33.073 --> 01:11:35.155
his tenure being your, your number three.

01:11:36.923 --> 01:11:37.364
I understand that.

01:11:37.385 --> 01:11:37.845
That's just me.

01:11:39.805 --> 01:11:39.945
Yeah,

01:11:39.985 --> 01:11:42.408
I don't think he leaves after a spring.

01:11:42.688 --> 01:11:43.708
You know what I mean?

01:11:43.748 --> 01:11:44.208
You never know.

01:11:44.708 --> 01:11:46.029
Transform portal stuff now, man.

01:11:46.050 --> 01:11:46.550
You never know.

01:11:46.671 --> 01:11:48.412
You never know what's happening,

01:11:48.431 --> 01:11:49.271
what people are thinking,

01:11:49.311 --> 01:11:51.894
but Pop's going to be the backup.

01:11:52.354 --> 01:11:52.694
I mean,

01:11:52.774 --> 01:11:53.914
he's got a little bit of oomph to

01:11:53.975 --> 01:11:54.655
him that's a little bit

01:11:54.695 --> 01:11:58.417
different than any of the

01:11:58.438 --> 01:11:59.479
other backup quarterbacks,

01:11:59.538 --> 01:12:02.501
but that's just what I'm

01:12:02.801 --> 01:12:04.301
looking at and what I'm seeing, but

01:12:06.278 --> 01:12:07.779
It's so hard to see.

01:12:07.798 --> 01:12:08.099
Again,

01:12:08.380 --> 01:12:11.822
it's still similar to what we've

01:12:11.841 --> 01:12:13.082
seen with Kyron last year.

01:12:13.103 --> 01:12:14.404
You've got to be careful

01:12:14.423 --> 01:12:16.185
with your quarterbacks.

01:12:17.586 --> 01:12:18.787
Pop has something that's a

01:12:18.827 --> 01:12:20.068
little different that you

01:12:20.108 --> 01:12:21.828
can't really see in a spring game.

01:12:22.430 --> 01:12:24.331
You can't really see 100% in

01:12:24.390 --> 01:12:26.813
practice until it's full speed.

01:12:26.832 --> 01:12:27.033
Because

01:12:30.275 --> 01:12:31.337
He might break a run.

01:12:31.377 --> 01:12:33.859
He might go for a 60-yard

01:12:33.918 --> 01:12:35.060
run because he's so quick.

01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:35.841
He's so elusive.

01:12:36.381 --> 01:12:39.203
But you're not going to get

01:12:39.224 --> 01:12:41.065
to see that because of the

01:12:41.105 --> 01:12:41.886
format of the game.

01:12:42.556 --> 01:12:43.216
Yeah, and I mean,

01:12:43.256 --> 01:12:44.358
I will say they've been

01:12:44.398 --> 01:12:45.217
talking about in spring,

01:12:45.257 --> 01:12:46.158
they've taken the orange

01:12:46.198 --> 01:12:46.838
jerseys off the

01:12:46.878 --> 01:12:49.600
quarterbacks for parts of practice,

01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:50.560
parts of scrimmages.

01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:52.702
So I wonder if they do that

01:12:52.801 --> 01:12:55.302
with Pop and Witke in this

01:12:55.543 --> 01:12:56.644
situation to kind of get a

01:12:56.743 --> 01:12:59.265
full feel of what they can

01:12:59.305 --> 01:13:00.365
get in that type of format.

01:13:01.667 --> 01:13:01.846
Yeah.

01:13:02.186 --> 01:13:04.328
Sheldon, anything to add?

01:13:06.106 --> 01:13:06.627
Not really, man.

01:13:06.667 --> 01:13:06.908
I mean,

01:13:06.927 --> 01:13:08.188
I think Pop's got to put on some weight.

01:13:08.929 --> 01:13:09.689
That's true.

01:13:10.329 --> 01:13:11.430
Yeah.

01:13:11.451 --> 01:13:12.612
That's my biggest thing, man.

01:13:13.231 --> 01:13:13.972
That frame is not going to

01:13:14.012 --> 01:13:14.872
cut it in the ACC.

01:13:14.912 --> 01:13:15.354
I will say that.

01:13:16.573 --> 01:13:19.475
Pop did just nothing but protein, right?

01:13:19.636 --> 01:13:22.158
Nothing but protein at the health center.

01:13:22.177 --> 01:13:23.198
Like, here's a steak.

01:13:23.219 --> 01:13:23.920
I want french fries.

01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:25.020
No, you need another steak.

01:13:25.060 --> 01:13:25.421
Keep eating.

01:13:25.440 --> 01:13:26.480
All right.

01:13:26.742 --> 01:13:27.702
Let's flip it here because I

01:13:27.742 --> 01:13:28.962
think this is going to be

01:13:29.203 --> 01:13:32.805
one of the more intriguing rooms to watch,

01:13:32.826 --> 01:13:33.365
and that's going to be the

01:13:33.386 --> 01:13:36.087
offensive line because –

01:13:36.087 --> 01:13:38.788
Brian, I know Brian follows it closely.

01:13:38.828 --> 01:13:40.069
It's something that, you know,

01:13:40.490 --> 01:13:42.572
playing it for years, Tally, you as well.

01:13:43.552 --> 01:13:45.975
But let me hear right now,

01:13:46.015 --> 01:13:46.836
and I got to go off camera

01:13:46.855 --> 01:13:47.756
for just a second,

01:13:47.917 --> 01:13:53.280
but who is y'all's eight-man rotation?

01:13:56.644 --> 01:13:57.663
Tally, you going to lead on this one?

01:13:58.824 --> 01:14:01.528
I mean, I don't care about an eight-man.

01:14:01.547 --> 01:14:03.488
I just need to know if the

01:14:03.529 --> 01:14:04.590
people who have been here

01:14:04.810 --> 01:14:05.530
can do their job.

01:14:06.903 --> 01:14:08.163
If Parker Clemens is still

01:14:08.203 --> 01:14:09.885
here and he ain't started

01:14:09.904 --> 01:14:11.086
working at Rural King yet,

01:14:12.305 --> 01:14:13.987
can he block somebody in front of him?

01:14:15.467 --> 01:14:18.770
If Bob Schick is still on the team,

01:14:20.030 --> 01:14:21.631
can he not look like Bob Schitt?

01:14:22.773 --> 01:14:23.693
That's all I'm saying.

01:14:24.234 --> 01:14:25.453
The eight-man rotation,

01:14:25.614 --> 01:14:27.555
I don't know what it's going to be.

01:14:27.615 --> 01:14:28.856
I still feel like we need

01:14:29.976 --> 01:14:33.819
another transfer offensive lineman.

01:14:34.340 --> 01:14:35.140
You know what I'm saying?

01:14:35.201 --> 01:14:35.381
But

01:14:36.265 --> 01:14:36.666
I don't know.

01:14:36.765 --> 01:14:37.146
I don't know.

01:14:37.407 --> 01:14:38.028
I don't know where they're

01:14:38.047 --> 01:14:38.787
going to go because I know

01:14:38.828 --> 01:14:39.828
they move people around.

01:14:39.849 --> 01:14:41.350
I know Crooks, you know,

01:14:41.390 --> 01:14:42.350
he's got his hands full

01:14:42.411 --> 01:14:43.993
with trying to plug things.

01:14:44.052 --> 01:14:44.432
But, you know,

01:14:44.453 --> 01:14:45.073
you'll see the Moore

01:14:45.134 --> 01:14:46.734
brothers and you'll probably see Parker.

01:14:47.676 --> 01:14:49.698
And I'm hoping that

01:14:49.738 --> 01:14:51.059
Cunningham's throwing it now.

01:14:51.698 --> 01:14:52.699
And, I mean,

01:14:52.739 --> 01:14:53.740
you're going to see Schick too.

01:14:53.780 --> 01:14:54.521
But, you know,

01:14:54.542 --> 01:14:55.783
you got a lot of young guys

01:14:55.823 --> 01:14:57.724
that I just don't know what

01:14:57.743 --> 01:14:58.244
they have yet.

01:14:58.265 --> 01:14:58.704
Because, you know,

01:14:58.725 --> 01:15:00.086
I ain't even mentioned – I

01:15:00.186 --> 01:15:03.277
ain't even mentioned –

01:15:03.277 --> 01:15:03.737
Chaplin.

01:15:03.957 --> 01:15:04.738
You know what I'm saying?

01:15:05.417 --> 01:15:06.958
I think I just named six there.

01:15:09.320 --> 01:15:10.440
You got to have that depth,

01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:13.283
but you want those top guys to produce.

01:15:13.542 --> 01:15:14.264
You know what I'm saying?

01:15:14.423 --> 01:15:15.323
If they're going to start or

01:15:15.344 --> 01:15:17.064
if they're going to be

01:15:18.626 --> 01:15:19.447
whatever you call it,

01:15:19.487 --> 01:15:20.927
this all-practice player,

01:15:21.068 --> 01:15:22.668
I just want you to get in a game.

01:15:23.208 --> 01:15:23.929
You block.

01:15:24.208 --> 01:15:25.390
That's what I want to see you do.

01:15:25.689 --> 01:15:27.712
It's not like I understand

01:15:27.771 --> 01:15:29.192
blocking is hard.

01:15:29.212 --> 01:15:30.512
I ain't saying anybody can

01:15:30.533 --> 01:15:31.694
just get out there and do it, but

01:15:33.243 --> 01:15:36.085
if you're consistently doing

01:15:36.145 --> 01:15:37.805
it in practice or you're consistently,

01:15:38.286 --> 01:15:38.905
you know what I'm saying,

01:15:38.945 --> 01:15:39.966
doing the right things,

01:15:40.426 --> 01:15:41.287
or if I can see you do the

01:15:41.347 --> 01:15:42.548
right thing one or two times,

01:15:42.908 --> 01:15:44.149
it's like that third time.

01:15:44.850 --> 01:15:46.110
What were you thinking here?

01:15:46.331 --> 01:15:47.051
You know what I'm saying?

01:15:47.332 --> 01:15:48.532
Your feet were so perfect on

01:15:48.572 --> 01:15:49.412
these couple of plays,

01:15:49.472 --> 01:15:51.613
but then we go to this pivotal down,

01:15:51.694 --> 01:15:53.996
and it's a mental thing

01:15:54.036 --> 01:15:54.996
where you jump off sides,

01:15:55.055 --> 01:15:55.756
or it's a mental thing

01:15:55.777 --> 01:15:57.097
where you're taking false

01:15:57.137 --> 01:15:58.318
steps and things like that.

01:15:58.377 --> 01:16:00.380
So more than seeing like a –

01:16:03.823 --> 01:16:05.408
More than seeing the eight-man rotation,

01:16:05.469 --> 01:16:07.315
I'm looking at more like

01:16:08.167 --> 01:16:09.708
what are we doing pre snaps

01:16:09.748 --> 01:16:10.890
and what are we doing, you know,

01:16:10.949 --> 01:16:12.130
stepwise and things like

01:16:12.170 --> 01:16:13.390
that for the people who's

01:16:13.451 --> 01:16:14.150
already been here.

01:16:14.591 --> 01:16:15.792
And I know that crook will

01:16:15.811 --> 01:16:16.712
be seeing the most of that,

01:16:16.853 --> 01:16:17.793
most of the other stuff and

01:16:18.194 --> 01:16:18.953
he'll work that out.

01:16:19.094 --> 01:16:19.614
You know what I'm saying?

01:16:19.635 --> 01:16:20.034
Cause my head,

01:16:20.435 --> 01:16:21.716
like I got personal

01:16:21.756 --> 01:16:22.595
vendettas against some

01:16:22.636 --> 01:16:23.716
people on that line.

01:16:23.817 --> 01:16:25.917
Oh man,

01:16:25.997 --> 01:16:30.081
I got PTSD from some people on that line,

01:16:30.121 --> 01:16:30.560
man.

01:16:30.621 --> 01:16:31.822
If I ever see an office

01:16:31.862 --> 01:16:33.582
alignment and I can see his

01:16:33.603 --> 01:16:35.123
spikes pointed up to the sky,

01:16:35.564 --> 01:16:36.363
I don't ever want to see

01:16:36.404 --> 01:16:37.244
him on the field again.

01:16:38.204 --> 01:16:39.126
And I've seen a couple of

01:16:39.145 --> 01:16:40.326
people spikes to the sky.

01:16:40.666 --> 01:16:41.726
This is not a porno.

01:16:42.226 --> 01:16:44.028
Get your legs down.

01:16:46.609 --> 01:16:47.828
Curtis coming back like,

01:16:47.849 --> 01:16:48.729
how the hell did we get here?

01:16:51.913 --> 01:16:53.134
But as soon as I heard that,

01:16:53.154 --> 01:16:54.574
I know who he's talking about.

01:16:54.595 --> 01:16:55.175
All right.

01:16:55.234 --> 01:16:55.715
That's fair.

01:16:55.734 --> 01:16:55.994
That's fair.

01:16:56.034 --> 01:16:57.055
That's fair, right?

01:16:57.215 --> 01:16:59.576
I mean, so, you know, we got Chaplin.

01:16:59.615 --> 01:17:00.655
We got the Moore brothers.

01:17:00.836 --> 01:17:01.536
We got Parker.

01:17:01.576 --> 01:17:02.277
We got Schick.

01:17:03.096 --> 01:17:06.858
We know whether they're starting or not.

01:17:07.238 --> 01:17:09.719
Those are going to be in the mix.

01:17:11.099 --> 01:17:12.139
We still got to talk about

01:17:12.719 --> 01:17:14.579
Brody Meadows and Montavious Cunningham.

01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:15.380
See, that's just seven.

01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:18.101
or a seven that's a good

01:17:18.983 --> 01:17:20.884
thing johnny garrett maybe

01:17:20.963 --> 01:17:23.365
eight um maybe eight maybe

01:17:23.445 --> 01:17:25.368
eight uh you know who else

01:17:25.408 --> 01:17:26.288
could we throw in there

01:17:26.788 --> 01:17:28.730
probably um lathe gannon

01:17:28.890 --> 01:17:30.972
yeah there's been some talk

01:17:31.012 --> 01:17:32.573
about him you know the

01:17:32.613 --> 01:17:33.534
other the other kind of

01:17:33.595 --> 01:17:34.756
wild card would be what

01:17:34.836 --> 01:17:36.317
what's what's hans hammer's

01:17:36.617 --> 01:17:38.057
uh development looking like

01:17:38.097 --> 01:17:40.579
he's definitely I hope

01:17:40.619 --> 01:17:42.421
you're good that's a good ass name

01:17:43.755 --> 01:17:45.358
Like, you got to be good.

01:17:45.398 --> 01:17:45.537
Like,

01:17:45.557 --> 01:17:47.320
that sounds like a wrestler name or

01:17:47.341 --> 01:17:47.962
something.

01:17:49.604 --> 01:17:51.185
But it's so many of the guys

01:17:51.206 --> 01:17:52.766
that have come in the last few years,

01:17:52.806 --> 01:17:53.967
where do they step up to?

01:17:54.368 --> 01:17:55.509
Because y'all mentioned Brody.

01:17:55.668 --> 01:17:57.670
We mentioned Johnny, who were a few years.

01:17:58.090 --> 01:18:00.452
But now the Gunner move and

01:18:00.471 --> 01:18:03.833
the Lamar Law move, how do they play?

01:18:03.894 --> 01:18:05.354
Does it click for them over

01:18:05.395 --> 01:18:06.654
there where it didn't click

01:18:06.715 --> 01:18:07.935
on the defensive line?

01:18:08.475 --> 01:18:09.676
And they're still, you know,

01:18:09.777 --> 01:18:10.858
they're redshirt sophomores,

01:18:10.898 --> 01:18:11.278
both of them.

01:18:11.557 --> 01:18:13.298
They still got three years left.

01:18:13.378 --> 01:18:14.420
It's still a chance.

01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:15.320
Yeah.

01:18:16.180 --> 01:18:17.523
But, and I mean,

01:18:17.743 --> 01:18:18.684
offensive line is one of

01:18:18.743 --> 01:18:20.707
those positions where if

01:18:20.747 --> 01:18:23.069
you're not starting your

01:18:23.470 --> 01:18:25.011
second or third year on campus,

01:18:25.192 --> 01:18:26.273
you don't need to panic

01:18:26.493 --> 01:18:27.595
about whether that player

01:18:27.635 --> 01:18:28.336
is going to develop.

01:18:28.355 --> 01:18:29.436
Because a lot of times it

01:18:29.476 --> 01:18:31.600
takes two to three years

01:18:31.659 --> 01:18:32.680
for an offensive lineman to

01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:34.042
fully develop offensively.

01:18:34.722 --> 01:18:35.925
and and get to where they're

01:18:35.944 --> 01:18:36.805
going to be a consistent

01:18:36.826 --> 01:18:39.128
player for you so um nobody

01:18:39.149 --> 01:18:40.310
really hit the panic button

01:18:40.350 --> 01:18:41.411
on any of these young guys

01:18:41.471 --> 01:18:43.753
yet um and you know

01:18:43.793 --> 01:18:45.555
hopefully you know a lot of

01:18:45.576 --> 01:18:46.698
them start getting because

01:18:47.217 --> 01:18:48.279
for a lot of them it's just

01:18:48.300 --> 01:18:49.041
going to take getting on

01:18:49.081 --> 01:18:49.841
the field and getting the

01:18:49.881 --> 01:18:53.045
reps that that's so much of that puzzle

01:18:53.845 --> 01:18:54.966
uh because until you get

01:18:55.006 --> 01:18:56.148
those reps against live

01:18:56.207 --> 01:18:57.708
competition in real games

01:18:58.750 --> 01:18:59.729
you know sometimes it just

01:18:59.750 --> 01:19:00.871
doesn't doesn't happen for

01:19:00.911 --> 01:19:02.091
you so getting

01:19:02.171 --> 01:19:03.353
opportunities in things

01:19:03.412 --> 01:19:04.373
like the spring game is

01:19:04.394 --> 01:19:05.253
going to be good for them

01:19:05.914 --> 01:19:07.155
now there were there is one

01:19:07.235 --> 01:19:08.636
scary thing that that I

01:19:08.657 --> 01:19:09.957
think we all are going I'm

01:19:09.978 --> 01:19:10.818
going to be glued to when I

01:19:10.837 --> 01:19:11.559
get a chance to watch a

01:19:11.578 --> 01:19:13.560
game who is the second

01:19:13.579 --> 01:19:14.400
person snapping the ball

01:19:18.621 --> 01:19:19.121
Yeah.

01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:20.601
There has been – and I'm

01:19:20.782 --> 01:19:22.823
going to have to get on David.

01:19:23.064 --> 01:19:24.203
David Cunningham is going to

01:19:24.224 --> 01:19:25.505
be probably joining us next week.

01:19:25.524 --> 01:19:26.746
At least we're trying to get him on.

01:19:28.346 --> 01:19:30.849
No one has asked Pride or

01:19:31.128 --> 01:19:32.250
any of the coaches that.

01:19:32.890 --> 01:19:33.951
And the only person that we

01:19:33.990 --> 01:19:35.572
saw snap a ball last year,

01:19:35.591 --> 01:19:37.073
other than Caden Moore,

01:19:37.453 --> 01:19:38.393
was Jack Hollifield.

01:19:39.094 --> 01:19:39.613
And he's gone.

01:19:40.354 --> 01:19:40.875
Yeah, I do.

01:19:42.636 --> 01:19:45.217
So, we have one center.

01:19:47.485 --> 01:19:48.929
That's scary time,

01:19:49.009 --> 01:19:49.670
so it's going to be

01:19:49.750 --> 01:19:51.393
interesting when that comes out.

01:19:51.413 --> 01:19:52.636
I don't know if it'll be Friday night,

01:19:52.876 --> 01:19:53.738
Saturday morning.

01:19:54.680 --> 01:19:57.465
Who's the center on opposite Caden Moore?

01:19:58.166 --> 01:19:58.346
Yeah.

01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:01.420
Yeah, that's a good question.

01:20:01.939 --> 01:20:04.661
But overall, I think the offensive line,

01:20:04.780 --> 01:20:05.820
where this offensive line

01:20:05.841 --> 01:20:07.621
was in 2022 to where it is now,

01:20:08.421 --> 01:20:09.702
we mentioned seven,

01:20:09.742 --> 01:20:12.002
eight guys that we feel like, okay,

01:20:12.462 --> 01:20:13.542
they can at least play.

01:20:13.981 --> 01:20:15.143
They might occasionally get

01:20:15.182 --> 01:20:16.703
their spikes up and Tally's

01:20:16.722 --> 01:20:18.403
going to be throwing things at the TV,

01:20:19.143 --> 01:20:21.123
but they also, they can play.

01:20:21.503 --> 01:20:22.524
It's not like you're sitting

01:20:22.564 --> 01:20:23.224
over here like,

01:20:23.804 --> 01:20:24.524
this guy doesn't even

01:20:24.543 --> 01:20:25.524
deserve to be on the field.

01:20:26.024 --> 01:20:26.685
It's so hard.

01:20:27.744 --> 01:20:28.064
So, yeah.

01:20:28.792 --> 01:20:29.631
Anything else y'all want to

01:20:29.671 --> 01:20:31.453
talk about on the offensive line?

01:20:34.453 --> 01:20:35.033
Just block.

01:20:35.314 --> 01:20:36.493
That's all I want to see you do.

01:20:37.354 --> 01:20:38.494
Hold hands like you're

01:20:38.515 --> 01:20:41.456
playing Red Rover if you got to.

01:20:41.975 --> 01:20:44.976
And don't let somebody just push you down.

01:20:45.096 --> 01:20:45.657
Do something.

01:20:46.957 --> 01:20:48.597
We was looking rough last year, man.

01:20:48.618 --> 01:20:49.377
Jesus Christ.

01:20:49.417 --> 01:20:50.498
We was getting flipped around,

01:20:50.559 --> 01:20:52.738
turned around, slapped up, flipped,

01:20:52.798 --> 01:20:53.458
rub it down.

01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:55.399
Shelton, that's what was happening.

01:20:56.920 --> 01:20:57.619
They got better.

01:20:57.979 --> 01:20:59.220
And somehow still better than 2022.

01:20:59.341 --> 01:21:01.042
I'm talking about in the spring game.

01:21:01.202 --> 01:21:02.862
I'm just talking about all

01:21:02.881 --> 01:21:03.662
through the season.

01:21:03.922 --> 01:21:05.082
I'm just talking about spring game.

01:21:05.463 --> 01:21:05.804
Yeah, yeah.

01:21:05.823 --> 01:21:06.623
During the season, they got better.

01:21:06.644 --> 01:21:07.564
But, Sheldon, to your point, 365 days ago,

01:21:07.604 --> 01:21:07.783
Sheldon,

01:21:07.804 --> 01:21:09.164
the offensive line did get better.

01:21:17.082 --> 01:21:19.244
That's a testament to where it was.

01:21:19.664 --> 01:21:21.126
I don't feel the same degree

01:21:21.166 --> 01:21:23.148
of panic that I felt last year,

01:21:23.167 --> 01:21:24.009
and I definitely don't feel

01:21:24.048 --> 01:21:25.109
the same degree of panic I

01:21:25.128 --> 01:21:26.871
felt going into the first spring game.

01:21:27.051 --> 01:21:27.190
Oh,

01:21:27.591 --> 01:21:29.112
Brian was sitting by me at the spring

01:21:29.171 --> 01:21:29.353
game.

01:21:30.052 --> 01:21:30.934
Brian was sitting by me at

01:21:30.974 --> 01:21:31.514
the spring game.

01:21:31.554 --> 01:21:32.875
He's like, we ain't going to see nothing.

01:21:34.976 --> 01:21:36.018
We can't see nothing.

01:21:36.478 --> 01:21:37.018
Look at him.

01:21:37.538 --> 01:21:38.059
Look at him.

01:21:38.078 --> 01:21:40.820
I think the offensive line

01:21:40.841 --> 01:21:41.721
was blocking each other.

01:21:42.141 --> 01:21:43.724
Yeah, I'm like, man, come on.

01:21:45.230 --> 01:21:46.131
It will snap.

01:21:46.511 --> 01:21:48.773
It will snap and two-hand touch Kyron.

01:21:48.853 --> 01:21:49.554
That's what we seen.

01:21:50.073 --> 01:21:51.135
I was like, come on, man.

01:21:51.694 --> 01:21:52.895
I just want to see.

01:21:52.956 --> 01:21:54.136
Give me four seconds.

01:21:54.436 --> 01:21:55.197
I just want to see four

01:21:55.237 --> 01:21:55.957
seconds of something.

01:21:56.497 --> 01:21:58.640
But, yeah, dog, to Sheldon's point, though,

01:21:58.739 --> 01:21:59.020
you know,

01:21:59.619 --> 01:22:01.461
I'm joking and ragging on the

01:22:01.480 --> 01:22:02.141
offensive line.

01:22:02.801 --> 01:22:04.462
During the season, of course, I mean,

01:22:04.483 --> 01:22:06.104
we've said on here plenty of times, like,

01:22:06.123 --> 01:22:06.885
they did get better.

01:22:06.904 --> 01:22:08.546
You know, that's a testament, you know,

01:22:09.792 --> 01:22:11.094
The play calling was a

01:22:11.113 --> 01:22:13.315
little bit different, but, you know,

01:22:13.456 --> 01:22:13.916
when you get some

01:22:13.975 --> 01:22:14.877
confidence and you got a

01:22:14.917 --> 01:22:16.898
signal caller that's got some confidence,

01:22:17.238 --> 01:22:17.998
I think it gives your

01:22:18.259 --> 01:22:19.119
offensive line a little bit

01:22:19.159 --> 01:22:20.060
of confidence as well.

01:22:20.121 --> 01:22:22.462
So I'd be fired up for the boys, man.

01:22:22.643 --> 01:22:23.563
Let the Hawks go out here

01:22:23.582 --> 01:22:24.344
and do a little dancing.

01:22:24.384 --> 01:22:26.886
Maybe we'll do a UVA tackle

01:22:26.905 --> 01:22:29.046
pass or something.

01:22:29.868 --> 01:22:31.429
Let somebody dive in the end zone.

01:22:31.529 --> 01:22:31.930
I don't know.

01:22:32.609 --> 01:22:34.070
Give Parker his moment in the sun.

01:22:34.091 --> 01:22:34.752
Yeah.

01:22:34.832 --> 01:22:37.033
All right, I'm going to flip it.

01:22:37.052 --> 01:22:37.873
This ain't that play where I

01:22:37.894 --> 01:22:39.034
run around and look like I'm lost in it.

01:22:41.936 --> 01:22:42.896
All right, just so y'all know,

01:22:42.936 --> 01:22:43.997
the dog is in here with me.

01:22:44.016 --> 01:22:45.717
She is being a something tonight,

01:22:45.778 --> 01:22:47.438
so you will hear barking

01:22:47.518 --> 01:22:49.038
for the remainder of this program likely.

01:22:50.179 --> 01:22:51.059
Running back room,

01:22:51.578 --> 01:22:52.538
can I just say this is what

01:22:52.578 --> 01:22:53.118
I want to see?

01:22:53.139 --> 01:22:55.079
Because we know what Toon is,

01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:56.039
we know what Thomas is.

01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:58.860
We've heard them rave about

01:22:58.881 --> 01:23:00.400
Jeremiah Coney since the

01:23:00.421 --> 01:23:01.180
day he stepped on.

01:23:01.921 --> 01:23:04.601
I want to see him make some plays.

01:23:06.163 --> 01:23:07.003
from the backfield.

01:23:07.444 --> 01:23:09.045
And why do I want to see him make plays?

01:23:09.125 --> 01:23:10.225
I want to see competition.

01:23:10.326 --> 01:23:11.746
I want Malachi Thomas to

01:23:11.786 --> 01:23:13.686
have to think he's coming

01:23:14.407 --> 01:23:16.747
for the number two spot.

01:23:17.569 --> 01:23:18.088
He's coming.

01:23:18.868 --> 01:23:19.969
Well, the thing is, too,

01:23:20.310 --> 01:23:21.430
even when you say we know

01:23:21.449 --> 01:23:23.650
what Malachi Thomas is, we really don't.

01:23:24.331 --> 01:23:25.532
Everything that we've seen of him,

01:23:25.551 --> 01:23:26.851
he's been hurt most of the time.

01:23:27.652 --> 01:23:29.712
We've seen him produce a little bit,

01:23:29.733 --> 01:23:30.974
but he's got hurt a lot.

01:23:32.493 --> 01:23:34.055
He's got a lot to prove this year.

01:23:34.451 --> 01:23:34.671
You know,

01:23:34.692 --> 01:23:36.216
if he's wanting to go forward and

01:23:36.818 --> 01:23:37.498
win two leagues,

01:23:37.539 --> 01:23:38.703
take that number one spot.

01:23:38.722 --> 01:23:39.966
So, we'll see.

01:23:41.413 --> 01:23:42.134
We've heard a lot about

01:23:42.194 --> 01:23:44.274
Tyler Mason as well, you know,

01:23:44.755 --> 01:23:45.994
the true freshman.

01:23:46.654 --> 01:23:48.175
So, we'll see what he got.

01:23:48.715 --> 01:23:48.935
Yeah,

01:23:48.994 --> 01:23:50.496
I want to see a lot of Coney and Mason.

01:23:51.115 --> 01:23:51.296
Yeah.

01:23:51.935 --> 01:23:53.275
I think that's what I really

01:23:53.296 --> 01:23:54.676
want to see in the spring game.

01:23:55.356 --> 01:23:56.957
Give me a good run of Thomas.

01:23:56.997 --> 01:23:59.256
I think just, you know, give him some run.

01:23:59.636 --> 01:24:00.256
I don't think we're going to

01:24:00.277 --> 01:24:01.478
see Tootin' very much at all.

01:24:02.658 --> 01:24:03.677
We know what we got with Tootin'.

01:24:04.078 --> 01:24:05.398
Let me see a little bit of Thomas.

01:24:05.438 --> 01:24:06.279
Let me see a whole lot of

01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:08.019
Coney and a whole lot of Mason.

01:24:08.838 --> 01:24:08.918
Yep.

01:24:10.270 --> 01:24:11.750
Sheldon, anything to add on top of that?

01:24:13.390 --> 01:24:13.610
Nope.

01:24:13.970 --> 01:24:14.831
I think we're pretty set.

01:24:15.091 --> 01:24:15.871
I kind of forgot that

01:24:15.911 --> 01:24:17.692
Malachi Thomas existed, honestly.

01:24:18.652 --> 01:24:19.372
Oops.

01:24:20.131 --> 01:24:22.052
Yeah, we'll see if we can do something.

01:24:24.113 --> 01:24:25.493
Well, we're going to see.

01:24:25.533 --> 01:24:26.073
We're going to see.

01:24:26.092 --> 01:24:28.113
You're going to miss Bryce Duke, Brian.

01:24:30.673 --> 01:24:31.015
You know,

01:24:31.034 --> 01:24:34.814
I don't think so with Mason coming in.

01:24:34.835 --> 01:24:35.576
Sheldon said no.

01:24:36.055 --> 01:24:37.435
I don't think so with Mason coming in.

01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:39.720
I think Mason can do

01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:41.680
everything that he could do

01:24:41.820 --> 01:24:42.841
and then a little bit more.

01:24:42.860 --> 01:24:45.502
I didn't see that.

01:24:47.061 --> 01:24:47.662
She does.

01:24:47.702 --> 01:24:48.282
She's a dog.

01:24:48.301 --> 01:24:49.422
All right.

01:24:49.603 --> 01:24:50.783
Tight end room we know is

01:24:50.823 --> 01:24:51.823
beat all to hell.

01:24:52.023 --> 01:24:53.184
Gallo recovering.

01:24:53.283 --> 01:24:54.543
Gosnell recovering.

01:24:54.564 --> 01:24:59.345
I mean, I saw St.

01:24:59.364 --> 01:25:01.786
Germain play solid up in a

01:25:01.865 --> 01:25:04.105
rain soap game up in Navy.

01:25:05.027 --> 01:25:05.867
He's going to get run.

01:25:07.456 --> 01:25:08.396
I mean,

01:25:08.436 --> 01:25:11.621
from the reports that I've seen and heard,

01:25:12.181 --> 01:25:13.422
they say he's looking good.

01:25:13.462 --> 01:25:14.664
So they're saying he's ready

01:25:14.685 --> 01:25:15.605
to take the next step.

01:25:15.645 --> 01:25:17.188
But, of course, it's all hearsay.

01:25:17.268 --> 01:25:18.670
But we've seen him in the game, too.

01:25:18.689 --> 01:25:19.610
You know what I'm saying?

01:25:19.631 --> 01:25:20.631
We've seen him get some run,

01:25:20.712 --> 01:25:22.914
and we've seen him do some things.

01:25:22.935 --> 01:25:23.136
Yeah.

01:25:23.890 --> 01:25:26.412
I'd like to see what step he takes.

01:25:26.452 --> 01:25:29.193
But the thing with the tight end room is,

01:25:29.512 --> 01:25:30.313
like you said, you know,

01:25:30.412 --> 01:25:32.793
and Gallo is coming off an injury.

01:25:33.394 --> 01:25:36.375
And Benji, you know,

01:25:36.435 --> 01:25:37.494
has kind of had some injury

01:25:37.515 --> 01:25:38.414
problems as well.

01:25:39.175 --> 01:25:39.876
So if you got St.

01:25:40.155 --> 01:25:42.416
Germain, who comes in behind him?

01:25:42.996 --> 01:25:43.256
You know,

01:25:43.275 --> 01:25:45.796
I guess that's where the thing is.

01:25:45.817 --> 01:25:48.738
Because if those guys aren't, you know,

01:25:48.997 --> 01:25:49.957
their full potential,

01:25:50.599 --> 01:25:51.679
who do you have behind him?

01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:55.560
that's where you – I don't

01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:56.360
want to say worry,

01:25:56.860 --> 01:25:57.881
but that's what you want to see.

01:25:58.061 --> 01:25:59.502
I guess that's what a spring game is for,

01:25:59.842 --> 01:26:01.503
to see who that other tight end is.

01:26:02.344 --> 01:26:03.845
I want to see a whole lot of Zeke Wimbush.

01:26:05.685 --> 01:26:06.527
Yeah, yeah.

01:26:06.726 --> 01:26:07.846
Heard some good stuff about Zeke.

01:26:08.448 --> 01:26:10.628
I feel like, you know, when we look at –

01:26:13.082 --> 01:26:15.302
taking up some of the type

01:26:15.382 --> 01:26:17.083
of play calls and position

01:26:17.384 --> 01:26:18.463
that Daquan Wright was able

01:26:18.484 --> 01:26:19.304
to slide into.

01:26:19.344 --> 01:26:20.524
I feel like his skill set

01:26:20.585 --> 01:26:23.666
fits that role best of the

01:26:23.706 --> 01:26:25.065
guys that we have coming back,

01:26:25.126 --> 01:26:28.006
especially when you look at

01:26:28.046 --> 01:26:29.387
the guys that are banged up right now.

01:26:30.268 --> 01:26:30.967
So it's going to be good.

01:26:30.988 --> 01:26:32.047
It's kind of getting a whole

01:26:32.729 --> 01:26:35.269
big dose of him in the spring game.

01:26:35.288 --> 01:26:36.130
So I'm going to look and see

01:26:36.170 --> 01:26:37.609
what he can do and see if

01:26:37.649 --> 01:26:39.371
he's ready to go to fill in that role.

01:26:40.131 --> 01:26:42.693
But I hate that Daquan Wright left.

01:26:43.953 --> 01:26:44.413
I hate that.

01:26:44.753 --> 01:26:47.315
I mean, I really like what he brought.

01:26:47.376 --> 01:26:48.055
And you know what I'm saying?

01:26:48.076 --> 01:26:48.577
I guess for me,

01:26:49.016 --> 01:26:49.898
kind of got spoiled because

01:26:49.917 --> 01:26:50.858
you were from like, you know,

01:26:51.078 --> 01:26:52.658
James Mitchell, then Daquan Wright.

01:26:53.060 --> 01:26:53.939
So you had a little bit of a

01:26:54.060 --> 01:26:56.681
playmaker tight end in

01:26:56.721 --> 01:27:00.224
those guys in those years.

01:27:00.304 --> 01:27:00.484
But...

01:27:01.521 --> 01:27:02.622
No disrespect to Gallo.

01:27:02.662 --> 01:27:03.703
Gallo does his job,

01:27:03.823 --> 01:27:04.622
but it's just a different

01:27:04.662 --> 01:27:05.422
type of tight end.

01:27:05.783 --> 01:27:06.484
So if he's full go,

01:27:06.524 --> 01:27:07.144
you know what I'm saying,

01:27:07.163 --> 01:27:08.104
he just gives you something

01:27:08.144 --> 01:27:08.904
a little bit different.

01:27:09.243 --> 01:27:10.805
And I think that if you look at, like,

01:27:11.064 --> 01:27:11.284
you know,

01:27:11.305 --> 01:27:13.666
a lot of the NFL teams that are winning,

01:27:13.706 --> 01:27:13.865
like,

01:27:13.886 --> 01:27:17.827
they have a – like a hybrid tight end.

01:27:18.027 --> 01:27:18.546
You know what I'm saying?

01:27:18.567 --> 01:27:19.207
I think that's kind of the

01:27:19.247 --> 01:27:20.828
wave of – the new wave of

01:27:21.207 --> 01:27:22.929
what the tight end position evolves to.

01:27:23.649 --> 01:27:25.548
So I'm interested to see

01:27:25.569 --> 01:27:26.649
which one of these guys – and, I mean,

01:27:26.689 --> 01:27:28.229
I've seen a little bit of that from Benji,

01:27:28.550 --> 01:27:29.810
you know, and St.

01:27:29.831 --> 01:27:30.650
Germain a little bit.

01:27:31.175 --> 01:27:32.855
But more of Benji than St.

01:27:32.876 --> 01:27:33.216
Germain.

01:27:33.256 --> 01:27:34.395
So I'm interested to see that.

01:27:34.435 --> 01:27:35.756
Yeah, they both have some of that.

01:27:35.817 --> 01:27:37.618
But I think Wimbush fits

01:27:37.677 --> 01:27:38.978
more of that mold in terms

01:27:39.057 --> 01:27:41.139
of just being an athlete.

01:27:41.198 --> 01:27:42.119
Athletic, yeah.

01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:44.201
A big wide receiver that can

01:27:44.320 --> 01:27:46.481
slide inside and block a little bit too.

01:27:48.703 --> 01:27:49.182
All righty.

01:27:49.502 --> 01:27:51.083
We got one last room to hit.

01:27:51.524 --> 01:27:53.944
And I think we wrote it this

01:27:53.984 --> 01:27:56.365
way because this is the

01:27:56.405 --> 01:27:57.466
most interesting room from

01:27:57.487 --> 01:27:59.527
a perspective of with the

01:27:59.546 --> 01:28:00.547
wide receiver room.

01:28:01.411 --> 01:28:05.332
is the big four, we know what they can do.

01:28:05.372 --> 01:28:07.252
We know what all four of them can do.

01:28:08.193 --> 01:28:11.932
And we go into this season looking for,

01:28:12.373 --> 01:28:14.073
obviously, you want five and six.

01:28:14.113 --> 01:28:15.094
Heck, you want seven.

01:28:15.554 --> 01:28:16.854
But this is also a year

01:28:16.914 --> 01:28:18.835
where who's going to be the

01:28:18.914 --> 01:28:20.734
guys next spring that are

01:28:20.755 --> 01:28:21.595
taking the passes?

01:28:22.235 --> 01:28:22.555
Sheldon,

01:28:22.796 --> 01:28:24.376
just looking at the wide receiver room,

01:28:24.456 --> 01:28:26.317
take out the big four, take out Jay Lane,

01:28:26.337 --> 01:28:27.377
take out Quan Felton.

01:28:28.753 --> 01:28:29.935
take out Ali Jennings and

01:28:29.954 --> 01:28:31.095
take out Steven Gosnell.

01:28:31.115 --> 01:28:32.016
The only one we won't see

01:28:32.056 --> 01:28:33.096
Saturday is Steven.

01:28:33.957 --> 01:28:35.378
The other three, I think to Ali's point,

01:28:35.399 --> 01:28:36.300
I don't think we'll see much,

01:28:36.359 --> 01:28:38.341
but do you have anybody

01:28:38.360 --> 01:28:39.381
that caught your eye maybe

01:28:39.421 --> 01:28:40.983
last year or from a

01:28:41.023 --> 01:28:42.524
recruiting perspective that you say,

01:28:42.564 --> 01:28:44.104
I want to see him on the field at Lane?

01:28:44.145 --> 01:28:44.345
Yeah.

01:28:44.365 --> 01:28:46.186
I mean, I think,

01:28:46.226 --> 01:28:47.467
I think XTV got a lot

01:28:47.528 --> 01:28:48.729
better as the season progressed.

01:28:48.788 --> 01:28:49.069
I mean,

01:28:49.588 --> 01:28:51.050
he provides a huge speed element

01:28:51.350 --> 01:28:51.890
that they're missing.

01:28:51.930 --> 01:28:52.771
I'm sure there's some,

01:28:52.912 --> 01:28:54.412
some little things that, you know,

01:28:54.432 --> 01:28:55.394
maybe kept him off the

01:28:55.413 --> 01:28:56.734
field as a young player, you know,

01:28:56.755 --> 01:28:57.335
last year, but,

01:28:58.179 --> 01:28:59.724
I think he can play a bigger role.

01:28:59.764 --> 01:29:00.828
And then also Aiden Green,

01:29:00.847 --> 01:29:01.811
I've heard some good things about him.

01:29:01.872 --> 01:29:03.317
So I'd say those two guys.

01:29:06.811 --> 01:29:07.051
Yeah,

01:29:07.112 --> 01:29:08.052
I think you're going to see a lot of

01:29:08.073 --> 01:29:08.672
Aiden Green.

01:29:08.712 --> 01:29:09.832
I'm really interested to see

01:29:09.893 --> 01:29:12.795
him kind of step into that, you know,

01:29:13.194 --> 01:29:14.335
filling in in that kind of

01:29:14.735 --> 01:29:16.657
fourth spot since Gosnell's out.

01:29:16.697 --> 01:29:17.497
I feel like he's going to be

01:29:17.537 --> 01:29:18.417
kind of the next man up

01:29:18.436 --> 01:29:19.337
from that perspective.

01:29:20.137 --> 01:29:22.038
Excited to see XTB get a

01:29:22.059 --> 01:29:26.820
little bit more run in non-gadget plays,

01:29:27.581 --> 01:29:28.902
seeing what he can do in

01:29:28.921 --> 01:29:31.662
more traditional route tree type things.

01:29:33.184 --> 01:29:34.465
I think, you know, obviously...

01:29:35.945 --> 01:29:37.606
And the young guys that we've talked about,

01:29:37.707 --> 01:29:38.528
Brody and Chance,

01:29:38.568 --> 01:29:39.649
I want to see what they can do.

01:29:39.689 --> 01:29:41.329
And I think the biggest unknown,

01:29:41.369 --> 01:29:42.470
but the name that I've

01:29:42.490 --> 01:29:43.391
started to hear a little

01:29:43.431 --> 01:29:45.173
bit kind of as spring

01:29:45.293 --> 01:29:46.975
practice has worked on is, you know,

01:29:46.994 --> 01:29:48.076
seeing Chance Fitzgerald

01:29:48.095 --> 01:29:49.716
come around a little bit too, because

01:29:50.497 --> 01:29:52.019
You know, after this year,

01:29:52.158 --> 01:29:54.179
there's going to be a lot

01:29:54.198 --> 01:29:55.859
of youth kind of moving into those roles.

01:29:55.899 --> 01:29:56.920
And I'm interested to see

01:29:57.020 --> 01:29:58.661
how those guys are going to step up.

01:29:58.740 --> 01:30:00.641
I think we have we've seen

01:30:00.742 --> 01:30:03.643
Aiden do it in small sample size so far.

01:30:04.243 --> 01:30:06.503
You know, we've seen, you know,

01:30:06.564 --> 01:30:08.003
what what chance can do and

01:30:08.225 --> 01:30:09.645
what Brody can do in some

01:30:09.685 --> 01:30:10.625
of this practice footage.

01:30:10.664 --> 01:30:11.805
But some of those guys are

01:30:11.826 --> 01:30:12.926
going to be asked to take

01:30:12.966 --> 01:30:14.027
on a very big role.

01:30:14.886 --> 01:30:15.306
heading into 2025.

01:30:15.587 --> 01:30:17.787
So I want to see that

01:30:17.847 --> 01:30:19.448
transition start with this

01:30:19.467 --> 01:30:20.288
spring game and getting

01:30:20.309 --> 01:30:22.048
those guys a lot of reps

01:30:22.109 --> 01:30:23.109
and getting acclimated and

01:30:23.130 --> 01:30:23.909
showing what they can do.

01:30:26.810 --> 01:30:27.430
Keelan, man.

01:30:27.871 --> 01:30:28.770
I got to see Keelan.

01:30:29.011 --> 01:30:30.171
I got to see Keelan Adams.

01:30:32.032 --> 01:30:34.273
Just again, man,

01:30:34.292 --> 01:30:35.453
when you think about the

01:30:35.474 --> 01:30:38.795
wide receiver position at Virginia Tech,

01:30:38.835 --> 01:30:39.814
no disrespect to any of the

01:30:39.835 --> 01:30:41.715
guys that's played.

01:30:41.956 --> 01:30:42.676
We haven't had

01:30:44.429 --> 01:30:46.091
an explosive wide receiver

01:30:46.110 --> 01:30:48.733
like we have on our roster right now.

01:30:48.853 --> 01:30:50.314
Even besides Keelan.

01:30:50.993 --> 01:30:53.617
To be highly ranked like he was coming in,

01:30:54.537 --> 01:30:55.198
there's going to be a lot

01:30:55.238 --> 01:30:58.640
of eyes on him from other Virginia guys.

01:30:58.780 --> 01:30:59.180
Also,

01:31:01.743 --> 01:31:03.685
the fan base hadn't seen really what

01:31:03.744 --> 01:31:06.567
he is because he's a route

01:31:06.606 --> 01:31:07.467
running technician.

01:31:07.828 --> 01:31:09.309
That's what he does.

01:31:09.408 --> 01:31:10.430
All of the stuff that you do

01:31:10.449 --> 01:31:11.270
during the spring where

01:31:11.310 --> 01:31:13.813
you're pulling ties and

01:31:14.470 --> 01:31:15.992
Tyler Phillips and all that stuff.

01:31:16.511 --> 01:31:17.931
A wide receiver like Keelan

01:31:18.051 --> 01:31:19.353
Adams is a little bit different.

01:31:19.372 --> 01:31:19.932
You know what I'm saying?

01:31:19.953 --> 01:31:22.094
So I'd like to see him get some work.

01:31:22.113 --> 01:31:22.434
And I mean,

01:31:22.474 --> 01:31:23.734
I've seen him on some on some

01:31:24.234 --> 01:31:25.335
on some one on one routes

01:31:25.414 --> 01:31:26.555
and he does what he does.

01:31:26.595 --> 01:31:29.337
So I'm going to be excited for him to see.

01:31:30.096 --> 01:31:30.997
I'm going to be excited for

01:31:31.018 --> 01:31:33.099
the fan base to see like what he can do,

01:31:33.599 --> 01:31:34.658
you know, moving forward.

01:31:34.679 --> 01:31:36.680
And like Brian said, you know.

01:31:37.435 --> 01:31:39.756
Think about Aiden Green and

01:31:40.016 --> 01:31:41.037
even Chancellor Gerald.

01:31:41.578 --> 01:31:45.461
Next year, when that top four guys leave,

01:31:46.240 --> 01:31:48.443
they're going to be the veterans.

01:31:49.162 --> 01:31:50.984
Aiden Green's going to be a

01:31:51.045 --> 01:31:51.864
junior next year.

01:31:52.485 --> 01:31:53.827
Seems like he just got on campus.

01:31:53.846 --> 01:31:54.546
You know what I mean?

01:31:54.627 --> 01:31:55.807
Which he really did.

01:31:56.287 --> 01:31:57.088
You know what I'm saying?

01:31:57.109 --> 01:31:57.809
He was a freshman.

01:31:59.430 --> 01:32:01.652
But he'll be a junior next

01:32:01.692 --> 01:32:03.753
year and leading the charge.

01:32:03.793 --> 01:32:03.993
Yeah.

01:32:05.011 --> 01:32:06.712
You're interested to see, you know,

01:32:06.891 --> 01:32:07.872
what the progression of all

01:32:07.912 --> 01:32:08.792
of those guys is.

01:32:08.853 --> 01:32:09.913
But if I'm looking at like

01:32:10.213 --> 01:32:12.015
one guy in that wide receiver room,

01:32:12.055 --> 01:32:13.136
I got to say Keelan.

01:32:13.735 --> 01:32:14.336
I see Keelan.

01:32:14.435 --> 01:32:15.957
I understand that with

01:32:16.016 --> 01:32:16.978
everything he's done.

01:32:16.997 --> 01:32:19.538
I think the piece I want to

01:32:19.578 --> 01:32:21.239
see is when those big four

01:32:21.340 --> 01:32:22.860
are off the field or the big three,

01:32:23.060 --> 01:32:24.462
since Steven's going to be banged up.

01:32:25.162 --> 01:32:26.023
I want to see who's leading

01:32:26.203 --> 01:32:27.243
because I think we keep

01:32:27.283 --> 01:32:27.984
making this point.

01:32:28.384 --> 01:32:29.685
Those guys are gone next year.

01:32:30.796 --> 01:32:32.118
Those guys are going next year.

01:32:32.579 --> 01:32:33.542
I want to see who on the

01:32:33.601 --> 01:32:34.923
field is maybe barking.

01:32:36.001 --> 01:32:37.140
Who's the leader of the group?

01:32:37.220 --> 01:32:38.381
Who's going to become the

01:32:38.442 --> 01:32:39.762
next leader of the bad boys

01:32:39.783 --> 01:32:40.802
with fine tail minds?

01:32:41.363 --> 01:32:43.144
Because I think that's going

01:32:43.163 --> 01:32:45.604
to be the guy that we see in this game,

01:32:45.784 --> 01:32:47.445
especially after the first quarter,

01:32:48.185 --> 01:32:50.346
make the plays, get blocks downfield,

01:32:50.766 --> 01:32:51.966
get on somebody's butt for

01:32:51.987 --> 01:32:52.908
not doing something.

01:32:53.448 --> 01:32:54.889
And because they're all

01:32:55.029 --> 01:32:56.689
relatively young and

01:32:56.708 --> 01:32:58.989
there's not like there's a red shirt,

01:32:59.409 --> 01:32:59.689
you know,

01:32:59.930 --> 01:33:02.171
sophomore who's played it or had

01:33:02.291 --> 01:33:03.292
a good bit of play and

01:33:03.752 --> 01:33:04.832
where he can say,

01:33:05.033 --> 01:33:05.673
I'm going to take the

01:33:05.694 --> 01:33:06.574
battle and run with it.

01:33:07.095 --> 01:33:08.077
Because like you just said

01:33:08.117 --> 01:33:08.837
with Aiden Green,

01:33:09.298 --> 01:33:10.199
Aiden Green's a sophomore.

01:33:11.100 --> 01:33:12.542
He's one year ahead of guys

01:33:12.561 --> 01:33:13.422
like Chance Williams and

01:33:13.443 --> 01:33:14.484
guys like Brody Adams.

01:33:14.864 --> 01:33:17.448
So who becomes the leader of that group?

01:33:18.309 --> 01:33:19.449
Because I think right now,

01:33:19.550 --> 01:33:21.011
I don't think we can say in

01:33:21.051 --> 01:33:22.372
the four that's there that

01:33:22.393 --> 01:33:24.475
there is one alpha dog.

01:33:25.520 --> 01:33:26.661
I think they all have their

01:33:26.701 --> 01:33:27.841
collective roles and I

01:33:27.881 --> 01:33:28.801
think they all have their

01:33:28.822 --> 01:33:30.301
different personalities and

01:33:30.322 --> 01:33:32.483
they all leave really well at times.

01:33:32.563 --> 01:33:33.063
So it's going to be

01:33:33.122 --> 01:33:34.143
interesting to see that.

01:33:34.944 --> 01:33:35.184
All right.

01:33:35.783 --> 01:33:37.503
Anything else y'all were

01:33:37.524 --> 01:33:40.024
looking for Saturday on any aspect?

01:33:41.204 --> 01:33:43.365
The alpha dog on this

01:33:43.405 --> 01:33:44.525
podcast is Curtis's dog.

01:33:49.219 --> 01:33:49.560
Listen,

01:33:49.979 --> 01:33:51.502
it's either disturb y'all and make

01:33:51.542 --> 01:33:52.542
Brian have to edit this a

01:33:52.563 --> 01:33:53.884
little bit or wake up my kids.

01:33:54.284 --> 01:33:55.025
I love y'all.

01:33:55.365 --> 01:33:56.648
You're making the right move, man.

01:33:56.667 --> 01:33:57.529
You definitely don't want to do that.

01:34:00.953 --> 01:34:01.774
No, not at all.

01:34:02.555 --> 01:34:03.136
You know what?

01:34:03.216 --> 01:34:03.555
I mean,

01:34:03.957 --> 01:34:06.759
our listeners stuck through state

01:34:06.779 --> 01:34:08.860
of the program, drunken shenanigans.

01:34:08.940 --> 01:34:09.902
I think they can handle a

01:34:09.962 --> 01:34:11.143
dog barking for 30 minutes.

01:34:12.024 --> 01:34:13.965
I don't know what's going on.

01:34:14.024 --> 01:34:15.226
I might be up like half the

01:34:15.266 --> 01:34:16.667
night with her if she don't go crazy.

01:34:17.087 --> 01:34:18.189
By the way, Tally,

01:34:18.750 --> 01:34:19.951
we are looking forward next

01:34:20.011 --> 01:34:21.631
week to the BMF Awards

01:34:21.731 --> 01:34:23.934
after you see these guys with pads on.

01:34:24.394 --> 01:34:27.577
Y'all got to understand how far we came,

01:34:27.596 --> 01:34:28.118
though, man.

01:34:28.658 --> 01:34:31.060
Like, we got a spring game on TV.

01:34:31.900 --> 01:34:33.622
You know what I'm saying, man?

01:34:33.641 --> 01:34:34.962
We get to watch it on TV.

01:34:34.983 --> 01:34:35.944
We got the streaming.

01:34:36.404 --> 01:34:37.085
You know what I'm saying?

01:34:37.104 --> 01:34:38.445
We got pregame shows.

01:34:39.027 --> 01:34:40.328
Like, a couple of years ago, man,

01:34:40.347 --> 01:34:41.269
we wouldn't get none of this.

01:34:42.189 --> 01:34:43.650
We wouldn't get no coverage.

01:34:44.912 --> 01:34:45.492
Very true.

01:34:46.011 --> 01:34:46.472
Excited.

01:34:47.293 --> 01:34:48.073
Super excited.

01:34:48.595 --> 01:34:50.496
Well, boys, unless something has broken,

01:34:51.596 --> 01:34:52.877
in which I don't think

01:34:52.978 --> 01:34:54.939
anything has in a while here.

01:34:56.020 --> 01:34:56.841
I'm going to wrap up this

01:34:56.900 --> 01:34:58.081
episode of the Boundary

01:34:58.121 --> 01:34:59.362
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01:35:45.340 --> 01:35:46.261
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live events are this spring,

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along with his Apple, Spotify,

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and YouTube, Facebook pages.

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We thank you all for listening.

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As always, let's go.

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Hokies.

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Bye.