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And welcome back to the

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Boundary Corner Podcast,

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along with my partner, Brian Seigla,

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and our longtime, not only podcast friend,

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but lifelong friend in general,

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Coach Robbie Compton.

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My name is Curtis Wilson,

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and this episode is brought

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to you by Dr. Jeremy Counts

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down at Main Street

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Pharmacy in Blacksburg,

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301 South Main Street, Blackbird,

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Virginia,

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your friendly neighborhood pharmacy.

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Robbie.

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Yes, sir.

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Good to have you back, man.

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How are you doing, brother?

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Good.

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It's been a while.

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Good to have you back, man.

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I spent a little time with

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you guys during the State of the Union

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or state of the program last year.

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A couple months ago,

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that was always a fun night.

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We always chat you up,

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hit you up occasionally.

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We're going to be talking

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tonight with Robbie, obviously.

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Robbie got to see practice

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up close and personal 10 days ago.

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Robbie's got some takeaways

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of things that he saw there

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he wanted to talk with us

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about and good stuff like that.

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Before we get into the football stuff,

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We got to hit a couple of

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the other sports.

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And Brian,

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I'll let you lead with this

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because you said you wanted

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to talk about it tonight.

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I mean, it's the elephant in the room.

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It's the buzz around Twitter

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and everywhere else or X or

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whatever the fuck we're calling it now.

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Twitter.

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Twitter.

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The departure of Kenny Brooks to Kentucky,

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obviously a big-time blow

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to the women's basketball program,

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and we're starting to see

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the dominoes fall from a

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current roster standpoint,

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from a recruit standpoint, so...

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The dust has not settled yet,

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but obviously big,

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big impact on that program

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and just kind of playing a

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wait and see game of what's

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going to be next from a

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coaching standpoint and

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kind of still processing the feelings of,

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you know, what this does for the program.

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And I think it's been a big

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gut punch for a lot of people.

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Well, the gut punch,

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it's like the second gut punch, right?

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Because the first gut punch

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was Liz Kittley tearing her knee out.

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Any chance of getting back

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to the Final Four at a title run,

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it was gone.

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They announced it right

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before the Blasphemer Regional.

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And that was the first gut punch.

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But I think we were ready for that, right?

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We were ready for it.

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Because we saw what happened

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and we were all like,

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if she didn't tear it...

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More than likely,

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we expected we weren't going to see her.

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Yeah.

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If she didn't tear,

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it was a terrible sprain.

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Robbie,

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you deal with athletes and injuries

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all the time.

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It was like, if it ain't torn,

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it's messed up,

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and she ain't back for a while.

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Yeah.

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My wife is an athletic trainer,

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and she said she saw the – Oh, man.

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Both looks for her on the net.

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Yeah.

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His wife saw something, his wife.

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My wife being an athletic trainer,

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she saw the video.

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She said right from the start, she said,

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that young lady's done.

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She won't play anymore this year.

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All right.

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So that happens.

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And then, you know,

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and then they win the first round game,

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blow out Marshall, right?

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And then the second round of

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the game was a war with Baylor,

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which I think, Brian,

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we got into chats and texted.

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If Kittley's in that game,

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they smoke Baylor's ass.

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Yeah.

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Because –

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Baylor literally had a

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couple ladies have their career games,

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and they won by three.

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Liz Kittley's on the floor.

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That shit ain't happening.

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That shit ain't happening, and it's sad.

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And I think, you know, when you look at,

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you know,

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looking at Strack and what she

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was able to do in that game,

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really good offensive game,

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but I think the defensive

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side is where she's not

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quite as developed yet,

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and that's where Liz would have –

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stopped a lot of the things

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that were going in for some

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of those players on the

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Baylor side of the court there.

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You know,

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and that's just one of those things where,

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you know,

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it's going to come in time for

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that player.

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She'll get there from, I think,

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from a defensive standpoint, which,

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you know, it won't be for us.

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But the sadder part about

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that was watching that game

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and we'd seen them play

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together a few times was

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getting into this tournament and

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if you had both of them on

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the floor and it was a

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couple times that happened this year,

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they wouldn't have been

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able to double Liz because

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the ball rotation when it

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went back to the other side

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and you would have had

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either a significantly

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lesser defensive player or

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an undersized defensive player on site.

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That's where it gets irritated.

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But let's just hit a few things.

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First of all, I get it.

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I think we all get it

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because there is not any of

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us sitting here

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that would tell you this.

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Robbie,

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if someone offered you three and a

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half times more pay to take a new job,

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would you go?

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It's a good chance.

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Good chance.

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I mean, money talks, man.

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And it's one of those things where

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It sucks more because if we

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look at it from a long standpoint,

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and I think that's where I

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think Virginia Tech in

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general was short-sighted,

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especially in the late 2000s,

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early 2010s.

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You know, if we're

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pushing to get in the SEC

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like there were whispers of

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in that time frame.

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Maybe we are able

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financially to be in a better spot.

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If we were ramping up the

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way we build our off the

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field infrastructure at

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that same time point,

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we might be in a better

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position to make some of

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these plays and things like that.

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But

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Just between the combination

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of not getting the media

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money that an SEC team gets

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and still revamping,

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especially in non-football sports,

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how we are handling

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recruiting and fundraising

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from an infrastructure standpoint.

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it was going to be a tough ask.

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It was going to be a tough ask.

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And especially when you're

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still trying to grow

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football and especially

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when you're still trying to

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position yourself for

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realignment conference realignment.

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Damn right.

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Now, first of all,

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before we say anything else

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and close this one out,

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he's not able to join us

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tonight because he didn't

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get the equipment he needed

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while he was traveling,

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but he's with us tonight on YouTube.

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Yep.

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I agree completely, Tally.

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There he is.

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There he is.

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He's with us live.

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But the last piece I'll hit on is this,

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and it might be a take that

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people don't like to hear from me.

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And, Brian,

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I know you've digressed with me

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a couple times and a couple

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people have argued with me.

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Where we are right now and

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where the college landscape is,

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we are not at a place where

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we can put money into a

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sport where we're losing money.

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We lost $5 million just a

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couple years ago in women's basketball.

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Because right now it is an

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arms race in football.

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And if you do not get into

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where you need to get into,

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you're effectively going to

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be second tier.

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And I think with the tradition,

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if you tell me right now,

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and if I ask anybody out there,

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would you give an extra $2

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million to Kenny Brooks to

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maybe make the Final Four next year?

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Or would you put $2 million

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back in football?

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That's an easy answer.

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And I think the majority of

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the people listening are

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going to agree with you on that.

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I think I'm going to give

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you a counter argument here.

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And it's not going to

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necessarily be Kenny Brooks

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related is going to be any

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coach that is the women's

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basketball coach for

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Virginia Tech related.

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If you're talking about what,

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1.6 million in salary for Kenny Brooks,

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that's part of that 5

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million shortfall for the

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women's basketball program as a whole.

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I don't think that you're

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going to find a coach

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that's going to make you

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any degree of competitive

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in the Atlantic Coast

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Conference that you're not

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paying at least a million,

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maybe 1.2 million a year.

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So that money is a wash anyway.

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But the extra money.

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If you're saying so,

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what I'm saying is I don't

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think we could have gotten to three.

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Would it have been worth

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getting him to two?

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I think that's hard to argue.

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I think that's very debatable.

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I think it's definitely

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something that if the steps

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have been taken,

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like I was discussing earlier,

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would have been a no brainer.

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Yeah, but that's not where we are.

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Yep, and Tally, he's going to be with us.

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He told me he was going to

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try to do this all night, but yep,

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and that's it.

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Brian, you said it a few years ago, though,

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when we had those issues.

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You were like,

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you put the money in football,

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and the rising tide will

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raise all the ships,

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and that's effectively what

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we're doing right now.

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All right,

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I'm going to flip off basketball.

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We are trying to get a guest

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on next week to talk

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in-depth even more on that.

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Brian's working the phones, efforting,

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efforting, efforting.

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But let's talk about a sport

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that does not need any

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additional funding because

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they are funding themselves.

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pretty much in every asset.

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And just a few weekends ago,

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the wrestling team finished

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seven at the national championship.

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And if you look at the stats,

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it wasn't too far from a

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third place podium.

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It was not that far from a

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third place podium.

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Caleb Hitman Henson,

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who Joe Rogers said on this

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program about a month ago,

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three weeks ago, excuse me,

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Caleb Henson can win a national title.

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Crown him.

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Hittinson wins a national title,

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the second in program history.

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And overall,

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just a great showing for all Americans.

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I tried to watch as much as I could,

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you know, everything going on.

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But wrestling is what it is, man.

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The thing is, the way it is right now,

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collegiate wrestling,

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everybody's fighting for number two.

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That was true.

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Because if you saw that

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point total at the end of that thing,

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team-wise, I mean,

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Tech was just that close

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from being seventh to third.

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But number two was 100

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points behind the first one.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, it's –

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Being second and third in

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this situation is absolutely incredible.

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It's kind of like women's

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basketball in the late

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2000s when Gino was on that

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fucking run at UConn.

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Yeah,

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when you made it to the national

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championship,

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you did incredible because

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you know you weren't winning it.

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Yeah.

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but but so it was great to

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see that it was great to

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see all those guys compete

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have great great um a great

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season I wouldn't say a

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great season because if you

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remember joe was like you

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know we are where we should

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be it was up and down

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considering the injuries uh

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and there was a couple

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disappointments but I think

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you know you saw people

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take some of the steps

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especially some of the

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younger guys take some big

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steps this year so I think

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that's big yeah

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I'm just reading the comments over here.

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Let's put it up.

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Yeah, put it up.

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Just because.

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Oh, no, no.

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That one's funny.

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It's the one above that.

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Tally's having himself a blast tonight.

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Trump all the money in tennis.

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Get over to national now.

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We don't want to do that.

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This is the one.

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Oh, this is going to be beautiful.

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Tally, I'm so glad.

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He's probably sitting on his hotel room.

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He's probably got a bottle next to him.

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He's probably watching some old TV.

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I wore the orange hat and

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everything for Tally.

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I know you did.

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We had to break the news to

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Robbie that it was just

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going to be us two.

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He's like, oh, man.

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But the big piece here is Southeast RTC.

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If you can and you want to

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support the wrestling program,

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support that.

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Because supporting the Southeast RTC,

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that is going to be the way

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to keep the studs coming in.

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And there are studs rolling in.

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I mean, Thomas Stewart, a freshman,

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All-American.

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Jimmy Mullen, who's on the football team.

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potentially has the ability to,

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if not become an All-American,

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potentially win a national

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title as a heavyweight.

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And let's talk about not

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just bring the studs in,

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but keep the studs there

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because there's some poachers out there,

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especially in the state

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that's shaped like an oven

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mitt that we're coming

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after a couple guys.

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Yeah.

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That's one of the crazy

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things about wrestling is

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if you're in wrestling in college...

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it's it with your school

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ring it doesn't matter

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everybody's on the same

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level yeah so I mean you

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don't have this this stigma

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of division two or power

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five and all of this you're

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in your end it doesn't

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matter what school you come

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from it's true very true

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and there's always chances

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to make the olympics and

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things like that and you know

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I mean, Kyle Lewis,

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a year after he won the national title,

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should have been there.

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But with COVID and everything,

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that screwed up his year

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where he could not.

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It was basically,

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I think what I've heard Joe

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and my friend Dave Fuqua call it,

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it's the Olympic red shirt.

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Ever heard that shit?

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Olympic redshirt.

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Why are you redshirting this year?

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Oh, I'm going to make the Olympics.

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Yeah, I'm going to the Olympics.

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Exactly.

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All right.

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Probably the best excuse

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I've ever heard before.

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Exactly, for a redshirt.

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I'm going to make the Olympics.

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Let me do this.

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All right.

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Well, let's turn it over,

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and now let's start talking

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about football.

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And the one thing that broke

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about – it would be a week ago tomorrow –

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All-time – one of the

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all-time great wide

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receivers at Virginia Tech, Cam Phillips,

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is going to be on the staff

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in some capacity this year,

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as announced by Coach Pry.

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You know,

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Cam's been out for a little over

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six years now, spent some time in the NFL,

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some time up in the

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Canadian Football League.

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And Coach Pry continues to

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stick by what he says, right?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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the lettermen are coming back.

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You're keeping it home.

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Um, that's a,

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that's a guy that kind of straddled the,

00:16:13.846 --> 00:16:15.547
uh, in the Beamer era,

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beginning of the Fuente era.

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Yep.

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And I saw both sides of it there.

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So that was something he

00:16:21.551 --> 00:16:23.111
talked about in his intro at the,

00:16:23.231 --> 00:16:25.832
at the meetings, um, the other week was,

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you know,

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there there's guys here that

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have been through the

00:16:28.735 --> 00:16:30.076
culture that we're looking to bring.

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And that's why they're here

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is because they understand

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the culture and the,

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the way that we want to do things.

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Yep.

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That's a good way to put it, Robbie.

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And another thing about the

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culture right now is how

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they're recruiting the state of Virginia.

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And, I mean,

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during the weekend you were down there,

00:16:47.500 --> 00:16:49.562
Robbie, it was a big land.

00:16:50.743 --> 00:16:51.703
Brett Clatterbaugh,

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Eastern View High School in Culpeper,

00:16:54.024 --> 00:16:57.607
Virginia, he is a top 315 player.

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That's up there.

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He is the number eight on the composite,

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35 at linebacker, 6'2", 220.

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His final five won't no joke.

00:17:08.028 --> 00:17:08.269
Yeah.

00:17:08.429 --> 00:17:09.068
It was Clemson.

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It was Georgia.

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It was Virginia Tech.

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A couple others in there.

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I know, Robbie,

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you said you were going to

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try to get to the film.

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Did you get a chance to get to the film?

00:17:18.931 --> 00:17:19.550
Oh, yeah.

00:17:19.891 --> 00:17:21.111
I watched some of his huddle stuff.

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All right.

00:17:21.971 --> 00:17:23.092
What did you see on him?

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Because he's an impressive player.

00:17:26.751 --> 00:17:28.692
I mean, he's got good build,

00:17:29.212 --> 00:17:30.593
obviously looking at – now,

00:17:31.353 --> 00:17:32.472
what you see a lot of it

00:17:32.772 --> 00:17:33.732
when you pull up huddle and

00:17:33.772 --> 00:17:34.292
stuff like that,

00:17:34.313 --> 00:17:35.213
you're going to see highlights.

00:17:35.614 --> 00:17:36.973
So you're seeing the best things he's got.

00:17:39.339 --> 00:17:41.320
He seems to replay as well.

00:17:42.040 --> 00:17:43.221
He's seeing his keys.

00:17:43.300 --> 00:17:44.601
He's got good instincts.

00:17:44.701 --> 00:17:45.480
He's still in holes.

00:17:46.682 --> 00:17:47.682
The thing that impressed me

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the most is when he makes contact,

00:17:51.061 --> 00:17:52.323
the play ends there.

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I mean,

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there's not – we get a lot of

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linebackers now that make a

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hit and they seem to be falling backwards,

00:18:01.124 --> 00:18:01.644
making tackles.

00:18:02.625 --> 00:18:03.884
Man, when he makes a hit,

00:18:04.585 --> 00:18:05.204
that play's over.

00:18:06.710 --> 00:18:08.029
He's rapping, running through.

00:18:08.089 --> 00:18:09.250
He's got good pad level.

00:18:10.951 --> 00:18:12.290
He seems to be really great

00:18:12.711 --> 00:18:15.152
at getting off of blocks, using his hands,

00:18:15.231 --> 00:18:16.051
playing with his hands.

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He reminds me a little bit

00:18:18.853 --> 00:18:20.952
of Peyton Wilson from NC State.

00:18:20.972 --> 00:18:22.173
Okay, we take that.

00:18:23.692 --> 00:18:24.713
That's a good comparison.

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I like that comparison.

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And makes tackles.

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I mean,

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there's not yards after contact and

00:18:32.194 --> 00:18:34.395
stuff there from what we see here.

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And I know a couple of those teams –

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that I saw in the film there,

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North Stafford, Stafford.

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I mean, there's,

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those are teams I've coached against.

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And I mean, he's,

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he's not doing it against

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slouches right there.

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Yeah.

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No, I mean, looking at the tape,

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is he like,

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I know he's listed with the four, six 40.

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Is he kind of that true?

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Is it a true four, six,

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or is that just kind of

00:18:58.695 --> 00:18:59.615
smoking mirrors right now?

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It's it's,

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I guess it could be very possible.

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I mean, he moves laterally very well.

00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:04.859
Um,

00:19:05.413 --> 00:19:06.554
He gets where he needs to.

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I didn't see a lot in those things,

00:19:10.134 --> 00:19:10.836
in his highlights,

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dropping into coverage and

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really covering people.

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Yeah.

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But when stop routes and old terms,

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that old button hook and

00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:23.981
curls and stuff like that,

00:19:24.501 --> 00:19:25.182
when he sees it,

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he gets there in a hurry.

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It's not a lot of yards

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after the catch in that thing either.

00:19:29.243 --> 00:19:30.344
He's getting to where he needs to.

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So, I mean, he's pretty quick in that.

00:19:31.984 --> 00:19:32.144
Now,

00:19:32.184 --> 00:19:33.326
some of that comes with all his

00:19:33.385 --> 00:19:33.746
instincts.

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of knowing where plays are going.

00:19:36.238 --> 00:19:37.597
You don't have to be as fast

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when you're pretty sure you

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know where it's going.

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That's a biggie right there.

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So that's a huge land right now.

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He sits at the top.

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He's a four-star composite everywhere.

00:19:47.760 --> 00:19:49.741
So everybody sees him as

00:19:49.781 --> 00:19:52.282
basically a top 350, 300 player,

00:19:52.682 --> 00:19:53.742
which is awesome to see.

00:19:54.163 --> 00:19:54.624
Now, Robbie,

00:19:54.663 --> 00:19:55.903
you already kind of gave it away.

00:19:56.344 --> 00:19:57.483
Robbie did get to go down to

00:19:57.523 --> 00:19:58.424
the coaches event,

00:19:58.505 --> 00:19:59.525
got to see some practice

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and got to see a lot of different things.

00:20:01.265 --> 00:20:01.785
So Robbie,

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I'm going to ask this because

00:20:03.046 --> 00:20:03.826
you kind of mentioned some

00:20:03.846 --> 00:20:05.125
stuff that Coach Pryor was saying,

00:20:05.405 --> 00:20:06.605
but what was the feel of event,

00:20:06.705 --> 00:20:09.007
not only from the coaching staff,

00:20:09.567 --> 00:20:10.507
but what's the feel of the

00:20:10.567 --> 00:20:12.248
events amongst the coaches there?

00:20:12.667 --> 00:20:13.688
Like the coaches,

00:20:13.728 --> 00:20:15.528
because these are guys you probably know,

00:20:15.867 --> 00:20:16.769
you coach against,

00:20:16.868 --> 00:20:17.848
you've probably said in

00:20:17.888 --> 00:20:18.749
many things like this,

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but what's the buzz about

00:20:20.710 --> 00:20:22.390
where this program is going right now?

00:20:22.932 --> 00:20:23.332
I mean,

00:20:24.073 --> 00:20:25.993
you guys see it when they recruit

00:20:26.034 --> 00:20:27.134
these guys and they post

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all the stuff on social

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media and all of their things say,

00:20:30.277 --> 00:20:30.797
welcome home.

00:20:31.857 --> 00:20:32.417
This is home.

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When you walk in there as a

00:20:34.038 --> 00:20:36.740
coach and you definitely

00:20:36.780 --> 00:20:38.082
feel it because they know a

00:20:38.102 --> 00:20:39.343
lot of those coaches are

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coming from Virginia,

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they want them to feel like

00:20:42.365 --> 00:20:42.924
they're coming home.

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And that's what they're doing.

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I mean, you walk into the event,

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you walk into the thing,

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and all of the coaches are at the doors.

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They're greeting you.

00:20:50.430 --> 00:20:51.310
They're talking to you.

00:20:52.162 --> 00:20:52.981
You know, I mean,

00:20:54.442 --> 00:20:55.983
they want it to be that comfortable.

00:20:56.023 --> 00:21:00.326
They want it to feel like home,

00:21:00.885 --> 00:21:02.287
not just for the kids coming in,

00:21:02.326 --> 00:21:03.166
but for those coaches.

00:21:04.167 --> 00:21:04.807
As we know,

00:21:04.847 --> 00:21:06.269
a lot of those coaches in Virginia,

00:21:07.209 --> 00:21:08.410
it is home to a lot of them.

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I mean,

00:21:09.630 --> 00:21:10.990
you've got a lot of those coaches

00:21:11.030 --> 00:21:12.471
that played there over time.

00:21:13.332 --> 00:21:16.374
I mean, that's their thing.

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They want to bring that

00:21:17.614 --> 00:21:18.634
crowd together like that.

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And I mean, it's a great thing.

00:21:21.645 --> 00:21:24.446
I'm two and a half hours

00:21:24.487 --> 00:21:25.626
from there in North Carolina,

00:21:25.646 --> 00:21:26.988
but it doesn't matter.

00:21:28.208 --> 00:21:29.008
They're welcoming you in

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because you're in their footprint.

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So you're welcome at all times.

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What you got, Brian, on that?

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I mean,

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I think that's kind of what we've

00:21:38.876 --> 00:21:39.717
been talking about.

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I feel like what you're

00:21:40.957 --> 00:21:41.696
describing there is that

00:21:41.717 --> 00:21:44.018
the culture is completely flipped,

00:21:44.097 --> 00:21:44.877
especially from where it

00:21:44.938 --> 00:21:46.159
was a few years ago.

00:21:46.239 --> 00:21:49.759
And I think we've had some

00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.141
folks on here that have

00:21:52.280 --> 00:21:53.320
spoken to that from

00:21:53.401 --> 00:21:54.520
personal experience on the

00:21:54.601 --> 00:21:55.221
recruiting side.

00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:56.142
You were there with us when

00:21:56.162 --> 00:21:56.981
we were talking about

00:21:57.662 --> 00:21:59.304
to those folks that stayed on the program.

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You know,

00:22:00.785 --> 00:22:01.605
we've heard it from other

00:22:01.645 --> 00:22:02.726
recruits that we've talked to,

00:22:02.766 --> 00:22:03.866
other players that we've talked to.

00:22:03.946 --> 00:22:05.949
So it seems to be something

00:22:05.989 --> 00:22:07.069
that is just a recurring

00:22:07.109 --> 00:22:13.855
theme of being very relationship focused.

00:22:14.275 --> 00:22:15.957
And if you focus on the relationships,

00:22:16.037 --> 00:22:17.097
then the other things start

00:22:17.117 --> 00:22:18.558
to take care of themselves a little bit.

00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:20.740
Yeah, absolutely.

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:23.603
All right, now let's get off that.

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That's the event that's how

00:22:24.663 --> 00:22:25.183
you're feeling.

00:22:26.453 --> 00:22:27.355
What's just the feeling of

00:22:27.394 --> 00:22:29.175
building about 2024 right now,

00:22:29.195 --> 00:22:31.217
like what you're hearing

00:22:31.237 --> 00:22:31.877
from the coaches?

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And I know we're going to

00:22:32.478 --> 00:22:33.298
talk about a lot of stuff.

00:22:33.318 --> 00:22:34.599
We're going to talk about players.

00:22:34.619 --> 00:22:35.539
We're going to talk about

00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:36.580
some things you set in.

00:22:36.641 --> 00:22:38.561
But what's just the vibe

00:22:38.602 --> 00:22:39.303
coming out of there?

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Because, again, you walked in, Merriman.

00:22:41.683 --> 00:22:42.724
You got to go down on the

00:22:42.785 --> 00:22:43.645
field and the practice

00:22:43.685 --> 00:22:45.247
fields and all that stuff.

00:22:46.208 --> 00:22:46.607
I mean,

00:22:47.327 --> 00:22:48.528
is there a difference between 2023

00:22:48.528 --> 00:22:49.970
where the team went seven

00:22:50.009 --> 00:22:51.490
and six and 2024?

00:22:51.490 --> 00:22:55.614
I feel like it's very positive.

00:22:56.997 --> 00:22:57.977
a lot of people are a lot

00:22:57.997 --> 00:22:59.857
more comfortable in situations.

00:23:00.557 --> 00:23:02.719
You've got – you didn't have

00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:03.499
staff turnover.

00:23:04.019 --> 00:23:04.318
You know,

00:23:04.819 --> 00:23:06.960
there's not coaches leaving and

00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.161
brand new coaches being in

00:23:08.201 --> 00:23:09.760
a week before this whole

00:23:09.800 --> 00:23:10.740
practice thing starts.

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And, I mean,

00:23:13.021 --> 00:23:14.342
that was a thing they were

00:23:14.362 --> 00:23:15.202
dealing with last year.

00:23:15.942 --> 00:23:17.742
We got there and two or

00:23:17.782 --> 00:23:18.884
three days before that,

00:23:20.523 --> 00:23:21.324
they just hired a new

00:23:21.344 --> 00:23:22.285
running backs coach and

00:23:22.444 --> 00:23:23.204
offensive line coach.

00:23:24.005 --> 00:23:27.489
Yeah, it's just a it's a positive vibe.

00:23:27.588 --> 00:23:28.829
It's building off of what's

00:23:29.530 --> 00:23:30.551
been going so far.

00:23:31.093 --> 00:23:33.596
And I think that's a great thing.

00:23:34.195 --> 00:23:35.617
Great direction to be moving in.

00:23:35.678 --> 00:23:36.699
And I think it I think

00:23:36.739 --> 00:23:37.940
everybody's kind of feeling that.

00:23:40.202 --> 00:23:41.064
I think that's the thing

00:23:41.243 --> 00:23:43.346
that I like what you just said there.

00:23:44.807 --> 00:23:46.829
It's the vibe of positivity because,

00:23:47.131 --> 00:23:48.113
like you said last year,

00:23:48.393 --> 00:23:49.875
Crooks and Elijah were just

00:23:49.935 --> 00:23:50.897
getting in-house there,

00:23:50.917 --> 00:23:51.419
and they're trying to

00:23:51.479 --> 00:23:52.339
figure out everything and

00:23:52.380 --> 00:23:53.281
what we're going to do this

00:23:53.342 --> 00:23:54.964
year and all that stuff.

00:23:55.821 --> 00:23:56.622
And now these guys have

00:23:56.662 --> 00:23:57.382
coached a full year,

00:23:57.422 --> 00:23:58.782
literally a full year together,

00:23:58.903 --> 00:24:00.363
literally a full year together.

00:24:01.103 --> 00:24:03.743
And every step along the way last year,

00:24:03.763 --> 00:24:04.703
were there some setbacks?

00:24:04.743 --> 00:24:06.005
Yeah, but then there were gains,

00:24:06.444 --> 00:24:08.664
setback gains, setback gains.

00:24:09.204 --> 00:24:10.165
And then at the end of the

00:24:10.226 --> 00:24:11.165
year with the last,

00:24:11.526 --> 00:24:12.625
I would say even three games,

00:24:12.685 --> 00:24:13.826
because the way that team

00:24:13.886 --> 00:24:14.967
fought back against NC

00:24:15.027 --> 00:24:16.247
State and getting that

00:24:16.346 --> 00:24:17.968
close with just a couple

00:24:18.008 --> 00:24:19.208
minutes left and not able

00:24:19.228 --> 00:24:20.127
to get the ball back to

00:24:20.347 --> 00:24:21.428
probably tie the game up

00:24:21.888 --> 00:24:23.269
and then blowing out UVA and then

00:24:23.709 --> 00:24:24.569
doing what they did against

00:24:24.609 --> 00:24:25.951
Tulane up in the bowl game.

00:24:27.352 --> 00:24:29.192
I like hearing this, the positive vibes.

00:24:29.252 --> 00:24:31.775
It isn't like, hey, we're King Kong,

00:24:32.395 --> 00:24:33.096
but it's positive.

00:24:35.117 --> 00:24:36.479
And the good part is all of

00:24:36.538 --> 00:24:37.680
those coaches returning are

00:24:37.700 --> 00:24:38.721
returning to the players

00:24:38.780 --> 00:24:41.061
that they've gotten used to.

00:24:42.303 --> 00:24:43.604
They've fallen in that system.

00:24:43.683 --> 00:24:44.204
So, I mean, that's –

00:24:45.132 --> 00:24:46.153
You're getting your coaching

00:24:46.212 --> 00:24:47.413
staff comfortable because

00:24:47.433 --> 00:24:48.355
you have continuity,

00:24:48.394 --> 00:24:49.215
but you're also – your

00:24:49.256 --> 00:24:50.678
roster has continuity too.

00:24:50.758 --> 00:24:52.499
So both of those are playing

00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:53.299
hand and fist there.

00:24:53.780 --> 00:24:54.942
There's a word I was looking for,

00:24:55.061 --> 00:24:55.722
continuity.

00:24:55.782 --> 00:24:56.643
That's a beautiful word.

00:24:57.064 --> 00:24:57.785
I can't spell it,

00:24:57.825 --> 00:24:58.585
but I can give it to you.

00:24:58.865 --> 00:24:59.405
There we go.

00:25:01.327 --> 00:25:03.289
That's a great way to say it.

00:25:04.090 --> 00:25:04.191
Yep.

00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:04.290
Yep.

00:25:06.249 --> 00:25:07.009
Yeah, so I mean,

00:25:07.609 --> 00:25:10.151
let's talk to the offense a little bit.

00:25:10.211 --> 00:25:11.151
I know that that's probably

00:25:11.171 --> 00:25:11.971
the big topic that

00:25:12.011 --> 00:25:12.912
everybody's focused on.

00:25:12.932 --> 00:25:14.232
We got so many returning

00:25:14.333 --> 00:25:17.114
starters from that last year's team,

00:25:17.674 --> 00:25:18.934
a team that kind of gelled

00:25:18.974 --> 00:25:19.955
as the year went on,

00:25:20.596 --> 00:25:21.737
really kind of took over

00:25:23.017 --> 00:25:25.137
the mentality that Kyron

00:25:25.157 --> 00:25:26.098
Drones brought to the table

00:25:26.179 --> 00:25:27.660
once he became the starting quarterback.

00:25:27.740 --> 00:25:27.900
So

00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:30.080
Um, you know, looking at that,

00:25:30.500 --> 00:25:31.701
did you sit in on any of

00:25:31.741 --> 00:25:33.903
the coaches meetings during the event?

00:25:34.064 --> 00:25:35.044
Which ones did you see?

00:25:35.084 --> 00:25:36.424
Did you get to talk to anyone, um,

00:25:37.326 --> 00:25:37.925
on that front?

00:25:38.727 --> 00:25:39.047
I did.

00:25:39.067 --> 00:25:42.548
I went to actually sat in with, with the,

00:25:42.689 --> 00:25:43.650
uh, wide receiver group.

00:25:44.670 --> 00:25:46.250
Um, good room.

00:25:46.951 --> 00:25:47.172
Yeah.

00:25:47.192 --> 00:25:48.051
Good room.

00:25:48.071 --> 00:25:48.813
A little bit from,

00:25:49.432 --> 00:25:51.413
from his days at ECU when I

00:25:51.453 --> 00:25:53.996
was just a few blocks over from it, um,

00:25:54.076 --> 00:25:54.776
there in Greenville.

00:25:55.356 --> 00:25:55.436
Um,

00:25:56.325 --> 00:25:58.046
But sitting in there and

00:25:58.145 --> 00:25:59.146
listening to some of the

00:25:59.186 --> 00:26:01.729
things they talk about, how, you know,

00:26:01.828 --> 00:26:03.390
just absolutely technical

00:26:04.089 --> 00:26:05.510
things are for the way they

00:26:05.550 --> 00:26:08.212
do things and certain

00:26:08.252 --> 00:26:09.673
matchups and certain things,

00:26:10.494 --> 00:26:11.775
they do everything they can

00:26:11.795 --> 00:26:13.036
to take advantage of and

00:26:13.135 --> 00:26:13.876
use those players.

00:26:14.636 --> 00:26:15.038
And, I mean,

00:26:15.057 --> 00:26:16.759
the players in that crowd have

00:26:16.778 --> 00:26:17.298
to be sharp,

00:26:17.358 --> 00:26:19.440
and I think he's got a good

00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:21.862
crowd there with a good game plan,

00:26:22.021 --> 00:26:22.823
and you're going to see

00:26:23.583 --> 00:26:24.644
some good stuff out of it.

00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:26.720
All right.

00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:28.119
Love to hear that.

00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:29.461
Now, Brian, you already brought him up,

00:26:29.500 --> 00:26:31.040
so we got to talk about it.

00:26:31.161 --> 00:26:31.560
I'm sorry.

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.461
Can't wait any longer.

00:26:33.561 --> 00:26:38.403
And first of all, shout out to Mr. Drones,

00:26:38.462 --> 00:26:39.942
Kevin in the house with us tonight.

00:26:40.022 --> 00:26:40.863
Good to have you.

00:26:41.182 --> 00:26:42.003
I'm a fellow coach.

00:26:42.104 --> 00:26:42.723
Can't go wrong.

00:26:42.784 --> 00:26:43.564
Another fellow coach.

00:26:43.584 --> 00:26:44.324
There you go.

00:26:44.544 --> 00:26:45.523
You and him talking shot

00:26:45.564 --> 00:26:46.704
back in today of the program.

00:26:46.765 --> 00:26:48.164
But let's talk about Kyron

00:26:48.204 --> 00:26:50.265
Drones because you said in

00:26:50.306 --> 00:26:51.326
here last year about this

00:26:51.385 --> 00:26:53.369
time and you said –

00:26:53.369 --> 00:26:54.410
the thing sounds different

00:26:54.430 --> 00:26:55.931
coming out of his arm, but you,

00:26:56.070 --> 00:26:57.111
you were talking to us

00:26:57.211 --> 00:27:00.112
about now the there it's

00:27:01.132 --> 00:27:02.032
physical specimen.

00:27:02.093 --> 00:27:02.792
We still know that,

00:27:02.833 --> 00:27:03.573
but you said there were

00:27:03.593 --> 00:27:06.034
things you saw last weekend that are just,

00:27:06.173 --> 00:27:06.653
it's like,

00:27:08.494 --> 00:27:09.654
I don't know how you want to describe it,

00:27:09.674 --> 00:27:10.174
Robbie.

00:27:11.036 --> 00:27:11.875
He's in the system.

00:27:12.912 --> 00:27:17.935
He's settled into Coach Bowen's system.

00:27:18.416 --> 00:27:19.718
He understands where things

00:27:19.758 --> 00:27:20.618
are going to open up.

00:27:20.679 --> 00:27:22.200
He understands what he's

00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.021
looking for and what things are given.

00:27:25.962 --> 00:27:27.284
He doesn't have to force things.

00:27:27.364 --> 00:27:28.265
He knows what's there.

00:27:28.305 --> 00:27:29.105
He knows what to take.

00:27:29.645 --> 00:27:30.886
He's a smart football player,

00:27:31.827 --> 00:27:34.029
and he's got a competitive edge to him.

00:27:34.069 --> 00:27:35.330
He's got a leadership to him.

00:27:36.392 --> 00:27:37.573
The guys –

00:27:38.775 --> 00:27:40.395
are following what he's doing.

00:27:40.476 --> 00:27:43.199
He knows that system and

00:27:43.259 --> 00:27:44.440
they know that he knows the

00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:45.619
system and everybody's more

00:27:45.660 --> 00:27:47.041
comfortable in that situation.

00:27:47.721 --> 00:27:50.463
And I mean that that's the, you know, yes,

00:27:50.523 --> 00:27:51.424
he's a vocal leader,

00:27:51.744 --> 00:27:52.405
but those are the

00:27:52.486 --> 00:27:54.948
leadership parts that they just,

00:27:55.107 --> 00:27:56.169
they just spill out of him

00:27:56.209 --> 00:27:57.028
because he knows what's

00:27:57.068 --> 00:27:58.390
going on and they're

00:27:58.431 --> 00:28:00.152
comfortable in that continuity of,

00:28:00.711 --> 00:28:01.212
of woods.

00:28:01.712 --> 00:28:02.993
I'm going to use that word a lot tonight,

00:28:03.013 --> 00:28:03.294
Brian.

00:28:03.334 --> 00:28:03.835
Now, thank you.

00:28:04.763 --> 00:28:05.463
You are welcome.

00:28:05.743 --> 00:28:06.884
They're comfortable in that.

00:28:07.305 --> 00:28:08.905
And it's just going to make

00:28:08.945 --> 00:28:10.885
things easier going forward, I think.

00:28:12.067 --> 00:28:12.426
Yeah, I mean,

00:28:12.467 --> 00:28:14.708
it's nice having a player

00:28:14.988 --> 00:28:16.147
that's at that position

00:28:16.868 --> 00:28:19.829
that has a command of the offense,

00:28:20.269 --> 00:28:21.750
but also has those other

00:28:21.790 --> 00:28:22.790
intangible leadership

00:28:22.810 --> 00:28:25.432
qualities and also has a physicality.

00:28:26.088 --> 00:28:28.790
that just, you know, you can't understate,

00:28:28.951 --> 00:28:29.151
right?

00:28:29.791 --> 00:28:31.613
So Tommy said, yeah,

00:28:31.692 --> 00:28:32.574
he's got that dog in him.

00:28:32.594 --> 00:28:34.414
So I mean, I think, you know,

00:28:34.494 --> 00:28:35.875
those qualities definitely

00:28:36.696 --> 00:28:37.576
help with the quarterback

00:28:37.617 --> 00:28:39.239
room and everyone feeds off of that.

00:28:40.199 --> 00:28:41.359
Because when you've got a

00:28:41.420 --> 00:28:42.601
leader on the field like that,

00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:43.862
everybody else is going to

00:28:43.882 --> 00:28:44.682
feed off that energy.

00:28:45.215 --> 00:28:45.375
Yeah.

00:28:45.576 --> 00:28:46.056
Yeah.

00:28:46.355 --> 00:28:47.057
We're not sitting here

00:28:47.076 --> 00:28:47.957
tonight questioning.

00:28:48.037 --> 00:28:48.977
OK, oh, no.

00:28:49.037 --> 00:28:51.397
Would they be talking about this kid?

00:28:51.758 --> 00:28:53.377
They're going to start this kid because,

00:28:53.397 --> 00:28:54.739
you know, give him a chance.

00:28:55.038 --> 00:28:56.318
No, we know who it's going to be.

00:28:56.818 --> 00:28:56.979
Yeah.

00:28:57.038 --> 00:28:58.640
And he knows who it's going to be.

00:28:58.660 --> 00:28:59.519
There's no looking back.

00:28:59.859 --> 00:29:02.840
It's it's take it to the next level.

00:29:03.358 --> 00:29:04.880
Take it to the next level.

00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:05.200
All right.

00:29:05.220 --> 00:29:05.299
Well,

00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:06.519
I got to take it back one level

00:29:07.140 --> 00:29:08.121
because I think now,

00:29:08.181 --> 00:29:10.922
cause last year it was, it was Grant.

00:29:10.981 --> 00:29:11.561
It was Kyron.

00:29:11.602 --> 00:29:12.122
Who's going to be one.

00:29:12.142 --> 00:29:13.702
Who's going to be two that

00:29:13.742 --> 00:29:14.643
all played itself out.

00:29:15.063 --> 00:29:15.942
So this year we kind of have

00:29:15.962 --> 00:29:17.503
the question mark now who

00:29:17.544 --> 00:29:18.743
was running with the Tuesday day.

00:29:18.804 --> 00:29:19.325
You saw it.

00:29:19.444 --> 00:29:21.125
Cause I know obviously there

00:29:21.144 --> 00:29:22.385
are two kids there who are younger.

00:29:22.405 --> 00:29:24.465
Um, did you remember,

00:29:24.886 --> 00:29:26.146
recall who you saw that day?

00:29:26.626 --> 00:29:28.587
I think pop Watson took more snaps.

00:29:29.327 --> 00:29:30.048
Okay.

00:29:30.147 --> 00:29:30.548
With them.

00:29:31.568 --> 00:29:31.628
Um,

00:29:32.267 --> 00:29:33.507
He took a few snaps here and

00:29:33.528 --> 00:29:34.548
there in different drills

00:29:35.087 --> 00:29:36.409
with the top wide receivers

00:29:37.048 --> 00:29:38.068
and stuff like that.

00:29:39.309 --> 00:29:41.871
You know as well as I do, things happen.

00:29:43.270 --> 00:29:44.311
He may have to go out there

00:29:44.332 --> 00:29:45.531
with the ones every once in a while.

00:29:45.612 --> 00:29:48.012
Kyron could be making a huge

00:29:48.093 --> 00:29:50.433
run and have his helmet pulled off,

00:29:50.493 --> 00:29:51.835
and man's got to go out

00:29:51.855 --> 00:29:52.454
there and perform.

00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:53.319
Yep.

00:29:53.700 --> 00:29:54.240
You never know.

00:29:55.602 --> 00:29:55.981
Whitkey,

00:29:56.122 --> 00:29:58.003
I think that's how you pronounce it.

00:29:58.044 --> 00:29:59.285
Whitkey, yep.

00:29:59.345 --> 00:30:00.986
He had a lot of snaps with the twos too,

00:30:01.666 --> 00:30:03.828
but typically Pop was the

00:30:03.848 --> 00:30:04.729
next guy out there.

00:30:07.692 --> 00:30:09.032
From an arm talent standpoint,

00:30:09.053 --> 00:30:10.993
who did you see show a

00:30:11.054 --> 00:30:12.194
little bit more from your

00:30:12.255 --> 00:30:13.777
perspective of those two?

00:30:14.757 --> 00:30:15.057
I mean,

00:30:15.798 --> 00:30:17.900
Pop is in – Whitkey looks like he

00:30:17.940 --> 00:30:20.701
has good command of what's going on,

00:30:21.303 --> 00:30:22.324
just that experience.

00:30:23.068 --> 00:30:23.710
But, man,

00:30:23.769 --> 00:30:26.531
Watson's got some – that dude can

00:30:26.551 --> 00:30:27.093
be electric.

00:30:27.893 --> 00:30:28.193
Okay.

00:30:28.253 --> 00:30:28.574
I mean,

00:30:28.614 --> 00:30:30.816
you can lose him behind some things,

00:30:30.895 --> 00:30:32.657
and he shoots out of holes.

00:30:32.718 --> 00:30:33.018
And, I mean,

00:30:33.057 --> 00:30:35.700
he's moving when he comes out of there.

00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:36.480
The kid is quick.

00:30:37.142 --> 00:30:37.342
I mean,

00:30:37.362 --> 00:30:38.803
he could be very electric in a lot

00:30:38.823 --> 00:30:40.304
of ways out of there.

00:30:41.285 --> 00:30:41.525
Yeah,

00:30:41.625 --> 00:30:42.787
he looks like he throws on the run

00:30:42.807 --> 00:30:43.446
pretty well too.

00:30:43.527 --> 00:30:43.767
He does.

00:30:43.787 --> 00:30:44.167
He does.

00:30:44.914 --> 00:30:45.075
Nice.

00:30:45.095 --> 00:30:45.755
All right,

00:30:45.775 --> 00:30:46.895
so obviously it seems like

00:30:46.915 --> 00:30:48.696
there's still a somewhat

00:30:48.757 --> 00:30:49.696
battle for the backup

00:30:49.737 --> 00:30:51.057
quarterback position as we

00:30:51.097 --> 00:30:52.358
continue to move into spring,

00:30:52.378 --> 00:30:53.098
which I don't think

00:30:53.159 --> 00:30:54.200
anybody's shocked with.

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:55.500
But like hearing those

00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.361
insights from Robbie, especially on Pop.

00:30:58.301 --> 00:30:59.281
All right,

00:30:59.942 --> 00:31:02.203
let's go to the running back room.

00:31:03.203 --> 00:31:04.124
Because running back's one

00:31:04.144 --> 00:31:05.085
of those weird rooms, right?

00:31:06.597 --> 00:31:07.318
Because they're going to

00:31:07.338 --> 00:31:08.960
take a ton of hits in the season.

00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:09.599
Yes.

00:31:09.881 --> 00:31:10.721
Do you really want them to

00:31:10.740 --> 00:31:12.261
take a ton of hits during practice?

00:31:12.281 --> 00:31:13.103
Well, you want to take some.

00:31:13.163 --> 00:31:15.184
I know y'all want to because y'all coach.

00:31:15.224 --> 00:31:16.025
It's like you got to at

00:31:16.065 --> 00:31:17.205
least get used to this shit.

00:31:17.586 --> 00:31:17.746
Yeah.

00:31:17.787 --> 00:31:20.248
But who did you get to see live that day?

00:31:20.628 --> 00:31:21.809
Did anybody step out?

00:31:21.829 --> 00:31:23.090
Did we get to see Mr. 13.7 himself?

00:31:23.111 --> 00:31:23.931
Was Tyler Mason out there?

00:31:30.627 --> 00:31:31.409
We saw a little bit of

00:31:31.449 --> 00:31:32.669
Tootin' and some drills,

00:31:33.469 --> 00:31:34.769
some skelly stuff,

00:31:34.868 --> 00:31:35.990
but it didn't look like he

00:31:36.029 --> 00:31:37.670
was getting a lot of full contact stuff.

00:31:39.230 --> 00:31:40.790
The vast majority of the

00:31:40.851 --> 00:31:45.592
snaps I saw as far as inside work,

00:31:46.531 --> 00:31:47.172
team drills,

00:31:47.211 --> 00:31:52.473
you saw a lot of Coney and Prelude.

00:31:52.513 --> 00:31:54.374
They told us beforehand that

00:31:54.394 --> 00:31:55.634
some of the running back stuff was,

00:31:56.134 --> 00:31:57.674
some of them were a little banged up and

00:31:58.536 --> 00:32:02.298
a little tender,

00:32:02.377 --> 00:32:03.298
I think was what the word

00:32:03.337 --> 00:32:04.558
said in some places.

00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:07.500
And I think this was one of

00:32:07.520 --> 00:32:08.480
their first days of full

00:32:08.520 --> 00:32:09.961
contact in the thing.

00:32:10.602 --> 00:32:13.063
So it's not a time where

00:32:13.083 --> 00:32:13.963
you're gonna go out there

00:32:14.003 --> 00:32:15.724
and really push guys too

00:32:15.785 --> 00:32:18.046
much in this situation.

00:32:19.385 --> 00:32:21.487
But I'm gonna tell you what, Mr. Mason,

00:32:23.351 --> 00:32:24.932
I'm interested to see him

00:32:25.613 --> 00:32:26.473
step into some of the

00:32:26.513 --> 00:32:27.614
things that they do once he

00:32:27.634 --> 00:32:28.394
gets up to speed.

00:32:28.914 --> 00:32:31.336
Because being right here locally,

00:32:31.478 --> 00:32:32.337
just a few minutes up the

00:32:32.377 --> 00:32:33.118
road in Mount Airy,

00:32:34.140 --> 00:32:35.240
that kid has been impressive.

00:32:35.661 --> 00:32:37.422
And I'd like to see him

00:32:38.323 --> 00:32:39.384
through a lot of their system.

00:32:41.144 --> 00:32:41.884
And you know what?

00:32:42.085 --> 00:32:42.945
It's funny you say that

00:32:43.006 --> 00:32:43.807
because when we talked with

00:32:43.826 --> 00:32:45.028
Coach Pry last May,

00:32:45.689 --> 00:32:47.230
we talked about the spring game.

00:32:47.250 --> 00:32:48.333
Like, you know, some guys didn't go.

00:32:48.353 --> 00:32:49.073
And he's like, yeah.

00:32:49.233 --> 00:32:49.554
He's like,

00:32:49.713 --> 00:32:51.977
why am I going to try to send a

00:32:51.997 --> 00:32:54.759
guy out there who's tender, banged up?

00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:55.401
Yeah.

00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:56.162
It's the spring game.

00:32:57.298 --> 00:32:58.698
We got 12 games in the fall.

00:32:59.338 --> 00:33:00.318
There's no need to go,

00:33:00.618 --> 00:33:01.939
this guy who's a good player,

00:33:01.979 --> 00:33:03.000
we know what we can get out of him.

00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:04.000
There's no need to him to go

00:33:04.059 --> 00:33:04.579
out there and play.

00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:05.940
So it sounds like that

00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.461
mentality is the same way

00:33:07.500 --> 00:33:08.221
with him right now.

00:33:08.260 --> 00:33:09.340
Like, he's a little banged up.

00:33:09.801 --> 00:33:11.321
Why am I going to run my

00:33:11.382 --> 00:33:12.923
backup or my starting

00:33:12.962 --> 00:33:14.143
running back through drills

00:33:14.462 --> 00:33:15.202
when they might be a little

00:33:15.242 --> 00:33:16.222
nicked from the first full

00:33:16.242 --> 00:33:16.903
pad of practice?

00:33:18.023 --> 00:33:18.884
It's something Pratt told us.

00:33:18.943 --> 00:33:19.904
It seems like he's living by it.

00:33:20.265 --> 00:33:22.365
Yeah, I mean, Tootin', I mean,

00:33:22.845 --> 00:33:23.625
this will be his, what,

00:33:23.685 --> 00:33:24.445
fourth or fifth year?

00:33:25.471 --> 00:33:26.071
College football?

00:33:26.951 --> 00:33:27.252
Third.

00:33:28.173 --> 00:33:29.292
This will only be his third year?

00:33:29.952 --> 00:33:31.114
He was a true freshman at

00:33:31.153 --> 00:33:32.394
North Carolina A&T when he

00:33:32.413 --> 00:33:33.714
went for 1,200 down there.

00:33:34.275 --> 00:33:35.095
Well, but, I mean,

00:33:35.555 --> 00:33:37.256
you're that many years into

00:33:37.316 --> 00:33:42.317
being a featured ball carrier.

00:33:42.457 --> 00:33:43.317
What's the point of taking

00:33:43.356 --> 00:33:45.178
hits in the spring when we

00:33:45.238 --> 00:33:45.938
know what we're going to

00:33:45.958 --> 00:33:47.058
get out of him when he counts?

00:33:47.939 --> 00:33:48.118
Yep.

00:33:48.788 --> 00:33:50.249
And I think it's, you know,

00:33:50.910 --> 00:33:52.069
we all know running backs

00:33:52.150 --> 00:33:53.769
when it comes to later in

00:33:53.829 --> 00:33:55.010
college and profession,

00:33:55.090 --> 00:33:56.131
there's an expiration date.

00:33:56.891 --> 00:33:57.171
Oh, yeah.

00:33:57.550 --> 00:33:58.432
Normally takes so many of

00:33:58.451 --> 00:33:59.311
those hits like that.

00:33:59.711 --> 00:34:02.153
And why waste them, you know, doing,

00:34:02.653 --> 00:34:04.133
I'm not saying that some of

00:34:04.153 --> 00:34:06.413
these drills are wasting reps, but I mean,

00:34:07.874 --> 00:34:08.773
why take some of those

00:34:08.813 --> 00:34:10.815
shots when it's not completely necessary?

00:34:11.362 --> 00:34:11.623
Yeah.

00:34:11.742 --> 00:34:13.704
And I mean, if you got padded practices,

00:34:13.744 --> 00:34:15.965
you're probably going to be, you know,

00:34:16.144 --> 00:34:16.764
anywhere.

00:34:16.764 --> 00:34:18.304
90% is probably the best

00:34:18.324 --> 00:34:19.385
you're going to be once you

00:34:19.425 --> 00:34:20.246
get a few practices into

00:34:20.266 --> 00:34:20.885
the season anyway.

00:34:20.925 --> 00:34:22.067
But if you're much below that,

00:34:23.186 --> 00:34:23.646
take a seat.

00:34:24.668 --> 00:34:25.007
And I mean,

00:34:25.088 --> 00:34:26.827
it's a development aspect to it too.

00:34:26.867 --> 00:34:28.068
You got all these young guys

00:34:28.108 --> 00:34:29.688
that can get in there and

00:34:29.708 --> 00:34:32.570
learn and build from there.

00:34:32.630 --> 00:34:33.170
So, I mean,

00:34:33.429 --> 00:34:34.590
it's never a bad thing because

00:34:35.050 --> 00:34:37.032
we all know you're going to

00:34:37.052 --> 00:34:37.811
have to rely on

00:34:39.304 --> 00:34:40.405
I would say in the college game,

00:34:40.445 --> 00:34:41.505
at least three by now.

00:34:42.306 --> 00:34:43.027
You're going to want to look

00:34:43.067 --> 00:34:43.907
at at least three of them

00:34:43.927 --> 00:34:44.668
in a season by now.

00:34:45.409 --> 00:34:46.909
And that's about what we ran last year.

00:34:46.949 --> 00:34:48.972
I mean, it was primarily two with,

00:34:49.632 --> 00:34:49.913
you know,

00:34:50.213 --> 00:34:51.474
the occasional hit here or there

00:34:52.534 --> 00:34:53.054
of a third.

00:34:53.155 --> 00:34:54.936
So you're going to be at

00:34:54.996 --> 00:34:56.557
least running two primary

00:34:56.597 --> 00:34:57.798
and probably at least one

00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.621
change of pace or spell

00:35:00.661 --> 00:35:01.541
back to kind of give those

00:35:01.581 --> 00:35:02.643
guys a little bit of a blow.

00:35:03.224 --> 00:35:03.384
Yeah.

00:35:04.059 --> 00:35:05.561
Yeah, and you got to think with Tootin,

00:35:05.681 --> 00:35:08.043
he went like all touches last year,

00:35:08.063 --> 00:35:09.525
like 220,

00:35:09.525 --> 00:35:11.327
and he had similar numbers like

00:35:11.327 --> 00:35:13.309
250 at A&T the year before.

00:35:13.369 --> 00:35:14.592
So he's already 500 plus

00:35:14.612 --> 00:35:15.733
touches into his career.

00:35:16.012 --> 00:35:18.876
That is a lot for a young guy.

00:35:19.036 --> 00:35:19.777
That's just those.

00:35:19.818 --> 00:35:21.981
That's not counting his kicker turns.

00:35:22.813 --> 00:35:23.492
Things like that.

00:35:23.532 --> 00:35:23.773
I mean,

00:35:24.474 --> 00:35:26.695
which from the few – there's a few

00:35:26.715 --> 00:35:27.315
from last year.

00:35:27.355 --> 00:35:27.974
We didn't have to worry

00:35:27.994 --> 00:35:28.755
about him getting hit.

00:35:29.135 --> 00:35:29.416
Oh, no.

00:35:32.197 --> 00:35:32.717
Exactly.

00:35:32.916 --> 00:35:33.657
Exactly, man.

00:35:34.297 --> 00:35:35.518
And, I mean, that's what you love to see.

00:35:35.577 --> 00:35:37.858
And I'm glad that the –

00:35:37.858 --> 00:35:38.539
they're taking it a little

00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:39.559
bit slow with that room

00:35:39.619 --> 00:35:41.539
because it's a room that we

00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.161
have good experience in.

00:35:44.201 --> 00:35:45.202
You don't want to squander

00:35:45.262 --> 00:35:48.322
that on a one-off play in

00:35:48.342 --> 00:35:49.302
the spring game or spring

00:35:49.342 --> 00:35:50.603
practice or anything like that.

00:35:50.664 --> 00:35:50.884
So –

00:35:51.284 --> 00:35:52.744
Take it easy with those guys for sure.

00:35:52.764 --> 00:35:53.465
Yeah,

00:35:53.485 --> 00:35:54.425
I think that's a big thing that

00:35:54.465 --> 00:35:57.228
coaching staff is looking at too.

00:35:58.088 --> 00:36:01.251
Coach Brooks is very much a

00:36:04.052 --> 00:36:05.373
student of the game and

00:36:05.853 --> 00:36:07.135
developing those kids.

00:36:07.675 --> 00:36:08.315
So, I mean,

00:36:08.534 --> 00:36:09.916
you might have to hold back one

00:36:09.936 --> 00:36:10.936
a little bit to keep them

00:36:10.976 --> 00:36:11.858
as healthy as possible.

00:36:12.661 --> 00:36:13.621
But it's just bringing the

00:36:13.661 --> 00:36:14.902
other ones up to speed and

00:36:15.123 --> 00:36:17.503
getting them prepared.

00:36:18.143 --> 00:36:19.083
And this is a great time of

00:36:19.103 --> 00:36:19.824
year to do that with

00:36:19.884 --> 00:36:21.764
installs going in and all that stuff.

00:36:21.824 --> 00:36:25.164
And, you know, getting scrimmages that,

00:36:25.324 --> 00:36:25.565
you know,

00:36:25.605 --> 00:36:27.485
don't really hurt you in terms

00:36:27.565 --> 00:36:28.804
of the winner loss record

00:36:28.844 --> 00:36:29.646
and things like that.

00:36:29.766 --> 00:36:32.706
So that's a big thing for

00:36:32.746 --> 00:36:33.365
this time of year.

00:36:33.846 --> 00:36:35.086
Let's pivot over to the tight end room.

00:36:35.106 --> 00:36:35.927
We know that's another one

00:36:35.947 --> 00:36:36.887
that's kind of been banged

00:36:37.067 --> 00:36:38.786
up and you got some young

00:36:38.827 --> 00:36:39.347
folks out there.

00:36:39.387 --> 00:36:40.168
What did you see from that

00:36:40.208 --> 00:36:41.108
group while you were out there?

00:36:42.213 --> 00:36:42.532
What's that?

00:36:43.313 --> 00:36:44.054
The tight end room.

00:36:45.014 --> 00:36:46.335
Tight end room was the,

00:36:47.494 --> 00:36:48.735
was the one that I probably

00:36:48.775 --> 00:36:50.617
saw the least out of just

00:36:50.657 --> 00:36:52.436
because they have some guys banged up.

00:36:52.836 --> 00:36:53.057
Yeah.

00:36:53.777 --> 00:36:53.958
Um,

00:36:54.657 --> 00:36:56.719
the one that I remember specifically

00:36:57.338 --> 00:36:58.840
seeing a little more of was St.

00:36:58.880 --> 00:36:59.260
Jermaine.

00:36:59.960 --> 00:37:00.701
I think he did,

00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:01.981
he got more reps with the

00:37:02.001 --> 00:37:04.422
first group and things that they did.

00:37:04.442 --> 00:37:06.862
Um, and I think he's a younger guy.

00:37:07.403 --> 00:37:07.643
Yeah.

00:37:08.324 --> 00:37:08.423
Um,

00:37:09.099 --> 00:37:09.760
I talked to,

00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:11.481
I kind of spoke to the Gosnell

00:37:11.501 --> 00:37:12.601
brothers a little bit just

00:37:12.621 --> 00:37:13.282
because they're from

00:37:13.862 --> 00:37:15.623
relatively locally here where I am.

00:37:15.643 --> 00:37:19.646
Yep.

00:37:20.288 --> 00:37:21.307
Lost you there a little bit there.

00:37:22.248 --> 00:37:24.411
Gosnell brothers locally.

00:37:25.331 --> 00:37:26.311
Is he going to come back?

00:37:26.632 --> 00:37:27.193
Oh, I'm back.

00:37:27.813 --> 00:37:28.253
There we go.

00:37:28.293 --> 00:37:28.693
There we go.

00:37:28.833 --> 00:37:30.135
Gosnell brothers locally.

00:37:30.155 --> 00:37:31.036
Yeah.

00:37:31.056 --> 00:37:31.315
They,

00:37:31.735 --> 00:37:33.657
neither one of them did participate

00:37:33.737 --> 00:37:34.998
in the practice that day.

00:37:35.579 --> 00:37:36.639
They're kind of rehabbing

00:37:36.679 --> 00:37:37.780
and getting some stuff together.

00:37:38.702 --> 00:37:38.782
Um,

00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.900
So, but I mean, I think they're,

00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:43.541
I think they'll be ready to play,

00:37:44.101 --> 00:37:46.362
ready to go there, you know?

00:37:47.322 --> 00:37:47.481
Yeah.

00:37:47.501 --> 00:37:48.523
We knew Steven's injury was

00:37:48.563 --> 00:37:50.963
going to kind of be a

00:37:51.043 --> 00:37:52.284
longer recovery period.

00:37:52.344 --> 00:37:53.385
And, you know, Benji,

00:37:53.465 --> 00:37:55.286
I know that you had a, had a Nick here,

00:37:55.346 --> 00:37:55.766
Nick there.

00:37:56.005 --> 00:37:57.606
Did you see much of a Zeke

00:37:57.626 --> 00:37:58.387
Wimbush out there?

00:37:59.907 --> 00:38:01.027
A little bit here and there,

00:38:01.068 --> 00:38:01.829
I think in some of the

00:38:01.849 --> 00:38:03.630
scaly periods and some things like that.

00:38:04.429 --> 00:38:04.530
Um,

00:38:06.710 --> 00:38:07.552
he looked pretty good

00:38:07.632 --> 00:38:08.733
catching balls and stuff.

00:38:08.773 --> 00:38:10.052
And some of the drills that we saw,

00:38:11.193 --> 00:38:12.875
but not, I didn't see a lot of,

00:38:13.596 --> 00:38:14.655
I didn't pick up a lot on

00:38:14.695 --> 00:38:18.318
him in like inside or things like that.

00:38:19.539 --> 00:38:20.380
Most of that was St.

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:21.701
Germain with a lot of the guys.

00:38:22.340 --> 00:38:22.701
Gotcha.

00:38:22.742 --> 00:38:22.961
Yeah.

00:38:23.322 --> 00:38:25.722
May just be the, you know,

00:38:25.802 --> 00:38:26.744
the comfort and the,

00:38:26.983 --> 00:38:28.525
the somebody that

00:38:28.545 --> 00:38:30.065
understood the progressions

00:38:30.106 --> 00:38:31.487
of stuff a little bit

00:38:31.527 --> 00:38:33.809
better right then being that first day.

00:38:35.550 --> 00:38:35.730
Yeah.

00:38:35.769 --> 00:38:35.869
But,

00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:38.442
I mean, just in individual group drills,

00:38:39.202 --> 00:38:39.463
you know,

00:38:39.483 --> 00:38:41.264
they've got a couple other tight

00:38:41.324 --> 00:38:43.106
ends there that are going

00:38:43.126 --> 00:38:44.166
to be able to help them,

00:38:44.947 --> 00:38:45.949
especially in the long run.

00:38:46.309 --> 00:38:46.449
Yeah,

00:38:46.469 --> 00:38:47.731
I think the hope is that Zeke would

00:38:47.751 --> 00:38:49.411
kind of step into a little

00:38:49.452 --> 00:38:52.355
bit of Daquan Wright's role,

00:38:52.675 --> 00:38:54.177
at least in the passing

00:38:54.197 --> 00:38:56.418
side of the tight end role there.

00:38:56.478 --> 00:38:57.860
So it was interesting to see

00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:59.081
if he was doing anything.

00:38:59.121 --> 00:38:59.882
So, you know,

00:38:59.922 --> 00:39:01.003
getting involved in Skelly

00:39:01.023 --> 00:39:01.903
isn't a bad idea there.

00:39:03.364 --> 00:39:03.644
All right.

00:39:03.945 --> 00:39:04.065
Well,

00:39:04.085 --> 00:39:05.766
let's flip it over to the room you

00:39:05.786 --> 00:39:07.385
sat in and talked to Coach Mines with,

00:39:07.425 --> 00:39:08.425
someone you go back with.

00:39:08.786 --> 00:39:09.865
Let's talk about that room,

00:39:09.905 --> 00:39:10.987
and let's talk about, first of all,

00:39:11.007 --> 00:39:11.666
the core four.

00:39:11.786 --> 00:39:13.306
You already mentioned Steven Gosnell.

00:39:13.786 --> 00:39:15.827
He's one of them, along with Jay Lane,

00:39:16.007 --> 00:39:17.668
along with Quan Felton and

00:39:17.748 --> 00:39:18.307
Ollie Jennings.

00:39:18.387 --> 00:39:22.708
I mean, everybody in there, to me,

00:39:22.849 --> 00:39:24.150
they all can play anywhere.

00:39:24.969 --> 00:39:25.130
Like,

00:39:25.250 --> 00:39:26.650
they have primary positions where

00:39:26.670 --> 00:39:29.771
they excel at, but, you know,

00:39:30.273 --> 00:39:31.092
we know Brian,

00:39:31.112 --> 00:39:32.594
you mentioned Gosnell's rehabbing,

00:39:33.094 --> 00:39:34.514
but just seeing them up

00:39:34.574 --> 00:39:35.315
close and I know they

00:39:35.335 --> 00:39:36.356
probably ran some of the

00:39:36.416 --> 00:39:37.175
drills and some of the

00:39:37.215 --> 00:39:38.195
plays and you got to sit in

00:39:38.235 --> 00:39:38.896
the room with them,

00:39:39.657 --> 00:39:41.557
but just up close in person,

00:39:41.597 --> 00:39:42.938
like how good are they?

00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:45.179
I mean, that's,

00:39:45.318 --> 00:39:46.300
that's an impressive crowd

00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:47.800
of impressive crowd of

00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:48.681
football players now.

00:39:48.940 --> 00:39:49.101
Um,

00:39:50.697 --> 00:39:51.876
very, very fluid,

00:39:52.416 --> 00:39:54.057
very technical football players.

00:39:54.498 --> 00:39:55.498
I think a lot of that comes

00:39:55.538 --> 00:39:57.438
from Coach Mines and the

00:39:57.478 --> 00:39:58.579
way he teaches the game.

00:40:00.059 --> 00:40:00.938
They're very good.

00:40:01.478 --> 00:40:02.900
They have, you know,

00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:05.719
the way they put routes together,

00:40:05.739 --> 00:40:07.121
the way a lot of colleges

00:40:07.161 --> 00:40:07.900
put routes together,

00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:08.920
you have a lot of options

00:40:09.481 --> 00:40:11.302
depending on whether you're

00:40:11.322 --> 00:40:12.922
being pressed or off or

00:40:13.362 --> 00:40:14.742
whether somebody's giving

00:40:14.782 --> 00:40:15.802
you an outside release

00:40:15.842 --> 00:40:16.983
versus an inside release.

00:40:17.673 --> 00:40:18.335
things like that.

00:40:18.695 --> 00:40:19.856
And I mean, they take advantage,

00:40:20.115 --> 00:40:20.976
they do a good job of

00:40:21.016 --> 00:40:21.956
taking advantage of the

00:40:22.016 --> 00:40:23.878
things that's given to them

00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:25.559
and they create their own space.

00:40:26.460 --> 00:40:28.101
They make theirself open in ways.

00:40:29.503 --> 00:40:32.286
I think it it's built their

00:40:32.346 --> 00:40:34.027
program and the stuff that

00:40:34.067 --> 00:40:35.628
they do is built very much

00:40:35.748 --> 00:40:38.751
for higher level receivers

00:40:38.811 --> 00:40:41.652
that are going to continue to play later.

00:40:42.534 --> 00:40:44.054
And I think you're going to, you know,

00:40:45.338 --> 00:40:46.920
Those guys understand that

00:40:46.981 --> 00:40:48.382
and they're there to

00:40:48.643 --> 00:40:50.005
continue to grow in that

00:40:50.065 --> 00:40:52.788
system to help improve themselves later.

00:40:53.608 --> 00:41:00.737
We got some skipping again.

00:41:00.757 --> 00:41:02.960
He'll be back in just a second here.

00:41:08.068 --> 00:41:08.949
Y'all just so you know,

00:41:09.068 --> 00:41:09.909
Robbie is going to be

00:41:09.969 --> 00:41:11.730
moving to a location higher

00:41:11.769 --> 00:41:12.869
out of the holler of Vorks,

00:41:12.889 --> 00:41:14.570
Vorksboro in the next little while here.

00:41:14.610 --> 00:41:15.811
So the next time he joins us,

00:41:16.170 --> 00:41:17.090
probably not as many.

00:41:17.271 --> 00:41:19.550
So, um, Robbie cut off for a second there.

00:41:20.132 --> 00:41:22.851
Um, but let me ask, let me ask this next.

00:41:23.311 --> 00:41:24.552
You got those four guys.

00:41:24.833 --> 00:41:26.012
I want to talk about the two young,

00:41:26.052 --> 00:41:27.253
young guys at the end here,

00:41:27.572 --> 00:41:30.333
but what other guys like Xavier Turner,

00:41:30.353 --> 00:41:31.793
Bradshaw, um,

00:41:32.793 --> 00:41:35.255
Tucker Holloway, Aiden Green.

00:41:35.434 --> 00:41:37.896
Did any of those guys pop out to you,

00:41:37.956 --> 00:41:39.317
whether it be just running drills,

00:41:39.356 --> 00:41:40.518
their physical demeanors?

00:41:41.878 --> 00:41:45.541
Those guys are – like,

00:41:45.681 --> 00:41:46.581
those guys were there.

00:41:46.621 --> 00:41:48.784
They ran some stuff with the ones.

00:41:49.224 --> 00:41:50.244
They were catching passes

00:41:50.264 --> 00:41:52.505
from drones and scaling and

00:41:52.525 --> 00:41:53.146
things like that.

00:41:53.186 --> 00:41:54.246
It was a lot of rotation,

00:41:54.847 --> 00:41:55.788
a lot of stuff like that.

00:41:56.268 --> 00:41:58.630
And you can tell there's –

00:41:58.630 --> 00:41:59.871
you've got that core group.

00:42:00.557 --> 00:42:02.318
that knows what's going on at all times.

00:42:02.378 --> 00:42:03.820
And they can make those

00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:05.340
breaks and cuts and decisions.

00:42:06.021 --> 00:42:07.041
You got the next group that

00:42:07.061 --> 00:42:08.862
you can tell are into the

00:42:08.922 --> 00:42:11.003
system and learning those things.

00:42:12.023 --> 00:42:12.724
And then you've got the

00:42:12.764 --> 00:42:14.166
younger guys that you can

00:42:14.206 --> 00:42:17.086
just tell have pure raw ability.

00:42:17.766 --> 00:42:18.927
And it's just taking a

00:42:18.947 --> 00:42:20.869
little time for them to see

00:42:20.909 --> 00:42:22.130
what's going on and learn

00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:23.530
the intricacies of what

00:42:23.550 --> 00:42:24.231
they're trying to do.

00:42:25.572 --> 00:42:27.313
I think it's a good flow down through.

00:42:28.545 --> 00:42:29.985
from the older guys all the

00:42:30.025 --> 00:42:31.086
way to the younger guys.

00:42:33.507 --> 00:42:34.086
I don't know that the

00:42:34.126 --> 00:42:35.047
younger guys are going to

00:42:35.068 --> 00:42:37.527
be at the bottom of that thing very long.

00:42:38.168 --> 00:42:39.429
All right.

00:42:39.449 --> 00:42:40.409
That's just my opinion.

00:42:40.929 --> 00:42:42.568
You can tell by those abilities.

00:42:42.969 --> 00:42:43.809
And I'm not trying to take

00:42:43.869 --> 00:42:44.929
away anything from some of

00:42:44.969 --> 00:42:45.710
those other guys,

00:42:46.489 --> 00:42:47.471
but you can tell there's

00:42:47.510 --> 00:42:50.190
just raw ability that, you know,

00:42:50.530 --> 00:42:51.992
you can learn all the game you want to.

00:42:52.012 --> 00:42:53.311
There's some things you can't learn.

00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:55.760
A couple of those guys,

00:42:55.780 --> 00:42:56.523
a couple of those younger

00:42:56.563 --> 00:42:58.364
guys have things that just

00:42:58.425 --> 00:42:59.646
aren't taught and can't be learned.

00:43:00.889 --> 00:43:02.791
And you mentioned Green.

00:43:03.072 --> 00:43:04.634
Did you see much of Chance

00:43:04.673 --> 00:43:05.514
Fitzgerald out there?

00:43:05.534 --> 00:43:07.036
I don't.

00:43:10.409 --> 00:43:10.989
Probably.

00:43:11.010 --> 00:43:12.210
I don't recall.

00:43:12.231 --> 00:43:13.891
I would say nothing stood

00:43:13.992 --> 00:43:15.512
out to make me think that.

00:43:15.592 --> 00:43:16.713
I know he was out there a

00:43:17.293 --> 00:43:19.054
couple of times because he

00:43:19.094 --> 00:43:20.934
was in that second group of

00:43:20.974 --> 00:43:22.976
receivers that come out there some.

00:43:24.576 --> 00:43:25.536
But they did a really good

00:43:25.556 --> 00:43:27.097
job of mixing guys in and out.

00:43:27.878 --> 00:43:28.657
You could tell they were

00:43:28.697 --> 00:43:30.438
trying to keep some held

00:43:30.478 --> 00:43:31.278
back a little bit,

00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:34.860
not to push them but so hard.

00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.161
But I mean, it's

00:43:38.331 --> 00:43:41.452
It was definitely a group that's got depth,

00:43:42.512 --> 00:43:44.554
and they've got the pieces

00:43:44.634 --> 00:43:46.414
that they should be able to

00:43:46.454 --> 00:43:47.896
recover if anything happens

00:43:48.016 --> 00:43:49.615
or anything like that.

00:43:50.336 --> 00:43:51.396
Probably a little better

00:43:51.416 --> 00:43:53.318
than last year as far as

00:43:53.617 --> 00:43:54.599
being able to step up.

00:43:55.318 --> 00:43:57.260
All right.

00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.001
You've hinted at those two young guys.

00:43:59.541 --> 00:44:00.240
I want you to start with

00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.061
Chance Wiggins first and

00:44:02.081 --> 00:44:03.262
just what you see out of him.

00:44:06.186 --> 00:44:07.947
Somebody put the thing up

00:44:08.007 --> 00:44:08.907
earlier talking about

00:44:08.947 --> 00:44:10.869
drones and how he's got some dog in him.

00:44:12.931 --> 00:44:13.932
Chance Wiggins might have a

00:44:13.972 --> 00:44:15.054
little dog in him himself.

00:44:16.135 --> 00:44:16.335
I mean,

00:44:16.375 --> 00:44:18.496
he's just like you could tell he

00:44:18.516 --> 00:44:19.898
got out on that field that day,

00:44:20.478 --> 00:44:22.079
and he's just as happy as

00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.521
he can be to be on a football field.

00:44:24.574 --> 00:44:25.054
I mean,

00:44:26.215 --> 00:44:29.677
he's going to be a force in the

00:44:29.717 --> 00:44:30.416
next year or so.

00:44:31.117 --> 00:44:31.297
I mean,

00:44:31.338 --> 00:44:33.099
he's going to be somebody to watch.

00:44:33.958 --> 00:44:35.000
He loves being there.

00:44:37.300 --> 00:44:38.802
He just loves being in the game, I think.

00:44:39.742 --> 00:44:40.782
And he's going to compete

00:44:40.922 --> 00:44:42.023
with every chance he gets,

00:44:42.123 --> 00:44:43.403
and that's one of the best

00:44:43.443 --> 00:44:45.585
parts of it is seeing those

00:44:45.625 --> 00:44:46.726
guys go out and compete.

00:44:48.827 --> 00:44:49.668
Now, what about Brody?

00:44:49.688 --> 00:44:51.829
Because you said Brody,

00:44:51.869 --> 00:44:53.811
not as big as Chance physically,

00:44:53.831 --> 00:44:54.773
but you said watching him

00:44:54.853 --> 00:44:56.614
run just – He's smooth.

00:44:56.994 --> 00:44:57.775
Man, he's smooth.

00:44:58.536 --> 00:45:00.538
He breaks his routes quickly.

00:45:01.057 --> 00:45:01.277
I mean,

00:45:01.318 --> 00:45:03.139
it's a foot in the ground and break.

00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.862
There's not a surprise, in my opinion,

00:45:06.422 --> 00:45:07.704
that he's one of the

00:45:07.764 --> 00:45:09.144
all-time leading receivers

00:45:09.224 --> 00:45:10.465
in Virginia history physically.

00:45:11.467 --> 00:45:12.748
with the way he runs routes

00:45:12.789 --> 00:45:14.168
and the way he snaps things off.

00:45:14.789 --> 00:45:15.670
I mean, it's just smooth.

00:45:15.969 --> 00:45:16.809
I've seen some decent

00:45:16.829 --> 00:45:18.971
receivers in my days coaching,

00:45:19.271 --> 00:45:20.771
and he's right there.

00:45:21.132 --> 00:45:21.333
I mean,

00:45:21.373 --> 00:45:22.632
it's pretty impressive to see him

00:45:22.672 --> 00:45:24.253
move in and out of things.

00:45:26.617 --> 00:45:28.340
Yeah, I mean, when we look at that,

00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:29.239
I feel like that's a good

00:45:29.521 --> 00:45:30.521
kind of one-two punch

00:45:30.561 --> 00:45:31.121
because you've got a

00:45:31.302 --> 00:45:33.623
big-body guy that can get down the field,

00:45:33.664 --> 00:45:34.364
and then you've got a guy

00:45:34.405 --> 00:45:36.487
like Brody that is just a

00:45:36.586 --> 00:45:37.748
route technician that can

00:45:37.807 --> 00:45:39.789
really just get open

00:45:40.670 --> 00:45:41.471
anywhere on the field.

00:45:42.211 --> 00:45:43.092
He's going to completely

00:45:43.172 --> 00:45:45.134
excel in that program,

00:45:45.153 --> 00:45:46.054
the way they do things.

00:45:46.635 --> 00:45:48.376
He's going to play himself open a lot,

00:45:48.797 --> 00:45:50.659
and it's going to be very fun to watch.

00:45:53.682 --> 00:45:54.842
So we talked wide receivers.

00:45:54.862 --> 00:45:56.664
Let's go over to the offensive line room.

00:45:56.684 --> 00:45:57.324
Yeah.

00:45:57.344 --> 00:45:58.465
Oh, hell yeah.

00:45:58.525 --> 00:45:59.824
It's going to be quiet for

00:45:59.844 --> 00:46:02.465
the next couple minutes.

00:46:02.485 --> 00:46:04.387
You know, we're a live podcast here.

00:46:04.427 --> 00:46:06.728
We don't make any qualms about it.

00:46:08.168 --> 00:46:10.570
You know, we've got some, you know,

00:46:10.590 --> 00:46:11.250
a little bit of.

00:46:13.074 --> 00:46:14.476
steps were taken last year

00:46:14.496 --> 00:46:15.936
in terms of the production

00:46:15.976 --> 00:46:18.157
from that group um let's

00:46:18.177 --> 00:46:19.739
start we'll start negative

00:46:19.778 --> 00:46:20.619
here is there anything that

00:46:20.659 --> 00:46:21.920
worries you looking at kind

00:46:21.940 --> 00:46:23.581
of the early early outcomes

00:46:23.922 --> 00:46:24.681
of what the spring was

00:46:24.722 --> 00:46:25.623
looking like with that

00:46:25.663 --> 00:46:30.125
those lineups just um I

00:46:30.164 --> 00:46:31.085
don't know if it's as much

00:46:31.146 --> 00:46:36.289
as worries as um sorry as

00:46:36.429 --> 00:46:40.672
just kind of I was expecting it to be

00:46:41.721 --> 00:46:43.922
Now, don't get me wrong.

00:46:44.422 --> 00:46:47.682
The comprehension of what they're doing,

00:46:48.202 --> 00:46:48.943
the things like that,

00:46:48.963 --> 00:46:50.282
the continuity of that

00:46:50.342 --> 00:46:52.364
offensive line is building.

00:46:52.443 --> 00:46:52.884
It's there.

00:46:53.543 --> 00:46:54.764
They're trusting what Coach

00:46:55.123 --> 00:46:56.965
Crook is putting in there.

00:46:57.804 --> 00:46:59.125
You can definitely tell an

00:46:59.164 --> 00:47:00.626
advancement through that crowd.

00:47:04.146 --> 00:47:05.606
I personally thought seeing

00:47:05.626 --> 00:47:08.748
the kid come in, the transfer kid come in,

00:47:08.788 --> 00:47:08.907
that

00:47:09.925 --> 00:47:10.726
you were going to see a

00:47:10.766 --> 00:47:12.626
little more of him moving

00:47:12.686 --> 00:47:14.068
in and out and trying things.

00:47:14.148 --> 00:47:16.568
And my kind of opinion was like, okay,

00:47:16.608 --> 00:47:18.009
who does he step in and replace?

00:47:20.769 --> 00:47:21.409
I don't think he,

00:47:21.550 --> 00:47:22.351
I don't think that kids

00:47:22.391 --> 00:47:23.490
come in and take steps to

00:47:23.550 --> 00:47:24.492
replace anybody yet.

00:47:25.632 --> 00:47:25.771
Um,

00:47:26.391 --> 00:47:27.552
throughout a lot of the drills and

00:47:27.592 --> 00:47:28.273
stuff we saw,

00:47:28.293 --> 00:47:31.293
I saw a lot of the same guys

00:47:31.313 --> 00:47:32.994
that we saw before, you know,

00:47:33.034 --> 00:47:35.536
the shit and, uh, and, um,

00:47:36.869 --> 00:47:37.188
Clements.

00:47:37.708 --> 00:47:38.269
Chaplain.

00:47:39.389 --> 00:47:40.471
Both of the Moore boys.

00:47:41.331 --> 00:47:43.572
I mean, which isn't completely surprising.

00:47:43.692 --> 00:47:44.672
They've been in the system.

00:47:45.112 --> 00:47:46.092
They've been going through.

00:47:46.152 --> 00:47:47.233
They know what's going on.

00:47:48.494 --> 00:47:51.775
And the new kid, his name slips my mind.

00:47:51.956 --> 00:47:52.436
Cunningham?

00:47:52.476 --> 00:47:53.416
Cunningham, yeah.

00:47:54.277 --> 00:47:54.976
He, you know,

00:47:55.518 --> 00:47:56.737
I didn't see him really with

00:47:56.757 --> 00:47:57.277
the first group.

00:47:58.518 --> 00:48:01.340
But he's only been in the

00:48:01.380 --> 00:48:04.112
system at that point for –

00:48:04.112 --> 00:48:06.175
really practiced for three

00:48:06.195 --> 00:48:07.195
or four days at that point.

00:48:08.056 --> 00:48:13.800
So he was kind of in there.

00:48:15.481 --> 00:48:17.483
So, I mean, it's not completely surprising,

00:48:18.164 --> 00:48:19.525
but it just, you know,

00:48:20.967 --> 00:48:22.108
a little more advancement

00:48:22.288 --> 00:48:23.568
and stuff is what I'm looking for.

00:48:23.849 --> 00:48:25.429
And that's going to come as

00:48:25.469 --> 00:48:26.510
they go through the spring

00:48:26.550 --> 00:48:27.431
and get into the fall.

00:48:28.652 --> 00:48:29.273
And you never know.

00:48:29.333 --> 00:48:31.114
I mean, things can change all the time.

00:48:32.235 --> 00:48:33.556
We do some spring stuff here.

00:48:34.965 --> 00:48:35.226
I mean,

00:48:35.465 --> 00:48:36.766
we've got kids playing right now

00:48:36.806 --> 00:48:38.626
that may not even be in

00:48:38.646 --> 00:48:40.206
that position group that they are.

00:48:40.387 --> 00:48:41.706
Now, granted, that's high school, but,

00:48:42.407 --> 00:48:42.686
you know,

00:48:43.106 --> 00:48:44.367
just because what you see is a

00:48:44.407 --> 00:48:45.507
first group right there may

00:48:45.547 --> 00:48:47.688
not be a first group to

00:48:47.708 --> 00:48:48.588
start the first fall

00:48:48.628 --> 00:48:50.489
practice or even the first fall game.

00:48:51.168 --> 00:48:52.289
So it's just – it's going to

00:48:52.309 --> 00:48:54.650
be interesting to see how

00:48:54.690 --> 00:48:56.070
they kind of put some groups together.

00:48:56.489 --> 00:48:57.630
But you know that group of

00:48:57.650 --> 00:48:59.670
five that played every game last – well,

00:49:00.110 --> 00:49:00.831
they played most of the

00:49:00.871 --> 00:49:02.795
games last year have that –

00:49:02.795 --> 00:49:04.965
that feel for each other.

00:49:05.547 --> 00:49:05.748
Yeah.

00:49:05.989 --> 00:49:07.193
I think they're continuing

00:49:07.213 --> 00:49:08.199
to try to carry that on.

00:49:08.893 --> 00:49:09.554
Yeah,

00:49:09.974 --> 00:49:11.556
what gave me a little bit of optimism

00:49:11.615 --> 00:49:13.617
was seeing that once you

00:49:13.637 --> 00:49:15.760
get a quarterback that's

00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:16.480
comfortable with running

00:49:16.500 --> 00:49:17.360
the football and once you

00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:18.402
see some of the scheme

00:49:18.481 --> 00:49:20.844
shifts around his skill set,

00:49:21.224 --> 00:49:22.224
you saw the play of that

00:49:22.284 --> 00:49:23.485
offensive line improve as

00:49:23.565 --> 00:49:25.467
well in tandem with that.

00:49:25.588 --> 00:49:27.168
So other than that,

00:49:27.228 --> 00:49:28.449
are there any other big

00:49:28.489 --> 00:49:30.070
things that you see from an

00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:31.552
optimistic standpoint

00:49:31.592 --> 00:49:34.275
heading into the spring

00:49:34.295 --> 00:49:35.356
practice and spring game here?

00:49:35.376 --> 00:49:36.637
I mean, I thought they had...

00:49:37.396 --> 00:49:39.077
They were working together well.

00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:41.380
Double teams were nice and tight.

00:49:41.539 --> 00:49:43.101
They were doing some good things there.

00:49:44.963 --> 00:49:46.262
They did pretty well in pass

00:49:46.324 --> 00:49:49.266
protection for a lot of things.

00:49:49.585 --> 00:49:50.827
Footwork is very good.

00:49:50.887 --> 00:49:53.809
They're playing with good pad level,

00:49:54.128 --> 00:49:55.170
which sometimes is hard for

00:49:55.210 --> 00:49:55.989
some of these offensive

00:49:56.030 --> 00:49:56.791
linemen because they're big.

00:49:59.121 --> 00:49:59.561
But, I mean,

00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:01.603
things that I know Crook looks at,

00:50:02.043 --> 00:50:04.523
you can see them developing.

00:50:04.885 --> 00:50:06.244
You can see those things

00:50:06.304 --> 00:50:08.126
getting better with every play.

00:50:08.927 --> 00:50:11.929
Now, they're going against,

00:50:12.528 --> 00:50:13.829
which we'll talk later about,

00:50:14.570 --> 00:50:15.751
they're going against a

00:50:15.771 --> 00:50:17.371
crowd that is doing

00:50:17.411 --> 00:50:18.512
everything they can not to

00:50:18.552 --> 00:50:19.393
make them look so good.

00:50:21.614 --> 00:50:22.795
They did fairly well against

00:50:22.856 --> 00:50:24.697
that for the most part.

00:50:25.585 --> 00:50:27.588
do you think from a fundamental standpoint,

00:50:27.608 --> 00:50:28.708
you're seeing some improvement?

00:50:29.068 --> 00:50:29.309
Is that,

00:50:29.369 --> 00:50:30.070
is that kind of where you're

00:50:30.090 --> 00:50:30.951
seeing the most improvement?

00:50:31.371 --> 00:50:31.572
Yeah.

00:50:31.952 --> 00:50:32.672
Um, they're,

00:50:32.713 --> 00:50:34.094
they're doing little things better.

00:50:34.253 --> 00:50:36.617
They're, they're working through,

00:50:37.518 --> 00:50:38.978
through first blocks and,

00:50:38.998 --> 00:50:40.701
and coming off to the second level,

00:50:41.581 --> 00:50:43.523
making good transitions in those ways.

00:50:44.965 --> 00:50:45.065
Um,

00:50:45.577 --> 00:50:46.938
getting good drives and good

00:50:46.998 --> 00:50:49.081
movement up front at times,

00:50:50.141 --> 00:50:52.123
adjusting well when they

00:50:52.143 --> 00:50:53.144
may not have the best

00:50:53.184 --> 00:50:54.945
leverage against the defensive linemen.

00:50:55.467 --> 00:50:56.407
Defensive linemen is going

00:50:56.427 --> 00:50:57.188
to have good leverage.

00:50:57.768 --> 00:50:59.190
Are they making adjustments to that?

00:50:59.389 --> 00:51:01.192
They did make good adjustments at times.

00:51:02.092 --> 00:51:04.094
So that progression that

00:51:04.134 --> 00:51:04.914
they're looking for with

00:51:04.934 --> 00:51:06.396
the offensive line, I think, is there,

00:51:06.856 --> 00:51:08.898
especially with the first, I would say,

00:51:09.358 --> 00:51:10.400
six to seven linemen.

00:51:11.152 --> 00:51:12.012
So you're seeing like less

00:51:12.092 --> 00:51:13.574
panic when they lose that leverage.

00:51:13.594 --> 00:51:15.275
You're not just, Oh shit.

00:51:15.974 --> 00:51:16.876
Yeah.

00:51:16.896 --> 00:51:17.715
Yeah.

00:51:17.777 --> 00:51:17.996
They're,

00:51:18.036 --> 00:51:19.617
they're continuing to try to make

00:51:19.677 --> 00:51:20.197
something work.

00:51:20.759 --> 00:51:21.599
Yeah.

00:51:21.659 --> 00:51:21.978
Okay.

00:51:21.998 --> 00:51:22.360
That's good.

00:51:22.940 --> 00:51:23.681
Did you get a chance to

00:51:23.701 --> 00:51:24.420
speak with coach Rick?

00:51:24.460 --> 00:51:26.362
I know you guys are having a

00:51:26.382 --> 00:51:27.603
good relationship.

00:51:29.344 --> 00:51:29.824
He's definitely,

00:51:29.864 --> 00:51:30.844
he's definitely a little

00:51:31.666 --> 00:51:32.586
more comfortable with,

00:51:32.806 --> 00:51:33.686
with what's going on,

00:51:33.726 --> 00:51:35.288
being there a little longer, having some,

00:51:35.949 --> 00:51:38.050
you know, I mean, he had,

00:51:38.190 --> 00:51:39.431
he had relationships with

00:51:39.471 --> 00:51:40.311
the coaches before and,

00:51:43.797 --> 00:51:44.018
Yep.

00:51:48.802 --> 00:51:50.364
Give him a second.

00:51:50.385 --> 00:51:51.585
Give him a second.

00:51:51.666 --> 00:51:52.786
It's coming down in a second.

00:51:53.208 --> 00:51:54.849
While he's, while he's coming back,

00:51:54.909 --> 00:51:56.650
just so you know, we lost you again.

00:51:59.208 --> 00:52:00.451
But, yeah, I mean,

00:52:01.592 --> 00:52:02.514
it's definitely a better

00:52:02.554 --> 00:52:03.815
feeling for him this year, I think,

00:52:04.396 --> 00:52:05.617
just being there.

00:52:06.259 --> 00:52:07.460
He's been there the whole year.

00:52:07.500 --> 00:52:08.842
He's had the whole offseason

00:52:08.862 --> 00:52:10.023
to kind of work with the guys,

00:52:10.644 --> 00:52:11.786
continue to push through.

00:52:11.806 --> 00:52:12.746
So I think that's a good thing.

00:52:13.686 --> 00:52:15.507
All right, let me ask this, Robbie,

00:52:15.666 --> 00:52:17.788
and just to go back to just

00:52:17.907 --> 00:52:20.608
you and maybe every position coach,

00:52:20.949 --> 00:52:21.469
and we're going to talk

00:52:21.489 --> 00:52:22.710
about defenses after we get

00:52:22.730 --> 00:52:23.809
back from break here in a second.

00:52:24.289 --> 00:52:25.990
But how big is it to

00:52:26.070 --> 00:52:27.311
continuously – like you

00:52:27.331 --> 00:52:28.072
talk about Coach Crook

00:52:28.092 --> 00:52:30.112
walked in a year ago almost to the day.

00:52:31.871 --> 00:52:33.393
you start learning guys, right?

00:52:33.913 --> 00:52:35.293
And I know for a lot of these guys,

00:52:35.333 --> 00:52:35.775
they are,

00:52:35.815 --> 00:52:37.275
they consider themselves teachers.

00:52:37.315 --> 00:52:37.856
And it's like,

00:52:38.516 --> 00:52:39.956
it's tough to teach somebody

00:52:40.436 --> 00:52:41.577
that you don't know that well,

00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:42.998
because you don't know what,

00:52:43.139 --> 00:52:44.500
what they respond to the best.

00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.380
And you slowly find that out

00:52:47.181 --> 00:52:48.583
just from watching him.

00:52:48.643 --> 00:52:49.463
And you got to watch him

00:52:49.503 --> 00:52:50.543
last year and you've known

00:52:50.583 --> 00:52:51.824
coach Crook and you've seen him coach.

00:52:52.505 --> 00:52:53.445
Was there a different,

00:52:54.585 --> 00:52:56.346
you know, essence around him,

00:52:56.407 --> 00:52:58.327
like out there with the guys, did it look,

00:52:58.909 --> 00:53:00.809
did it look like last year to this year?

00:53:00.849 --> 00:53:02.311
Did this year make you say, you know,

00:53:02.331 --> 00:53:02.510
that's,

00:53:02.692 --> 00:53:04.253
that's Ron Crook right there last

00:53:04.293 --> 00:53:05.074
year was him,

00:53:05.134 --> 00:53:07.014
but because he didn't know these guys,

00:53:07.054 --> 00:53:09.356
he couldn't be all himself.

00:53:09.637 --> 00:53:09.876
Yeah.

00:53:09.978 --> 00:53:12.559
The, the, the relationship was there.

00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.621
The expectations are there.

00:53:14.942 --> 00:53:16.063
They know what he expects.

00:53:16.123 --> 00:53:17.202
They know what he's looking for.

00:53:17.264 --> 00:53:18.204
They know those things.

00:53:18.885 --> 00:53:21.447
And with him and coach Davis too, I mean,

00:53:22.626 --> 00:53:23.746
working together, doing things.

00:53:23.846 --> 00:53:24.246
I mean, it's,

00:53:24.507 --> 00:53:25.768
it's a big thing to have both of them.

00:53:26.208 --> 00:53:27.409
I think coach Davis was

00:53:27.449 --> 00:53:28.971
literally last year was literally hired.

00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:30.632
I think a couple of hours

00:53:30.692 --> 00:53:34.014
before he spoke to us, I mean,

00:53:34.034 --> 00:53:34.855
literally that day.

00:53:36.056 --> 00:53:38.137
So, I mean, that kind of, um,

00:53:39.318 --> 00:53:41.039
that kind of setting those

00:53:41.121 --> 00:53:42.342
expectations and the guys

00:53:42.382 --> 00:53:43.461
knowing them and working through them,

00:53:43.742 --> 00:53:45.184
that continuity is a big thing.

00:53:45.804 --> 00:53:46.744
And yeah, you could feel it.

00:53:46.985 --> 00:53:47.806
It was definitely there.

00:53:48.606 --> 00:53:48.967
And, um,

00:53:49.876 --> 00:53:50.896
They're building off of that,

00:53:51.036 --> 00:53:51.958
and it's a great thing.

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:53.820
Love it.

00:53:54.601 --> 00:53:54.860
All right.

00:53:55.041 --> 00:53:56.702
So we are going to come back

00:53:56.762 --> 00:53:57.983
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00:53:58.003 --> 00:53:58.545
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00:53:58.625 --> 00:53:59.666
defensive side of the ball,

00:53:59.686 --> 00:54:00.746
some things Robbie's noticed.

00:54:00.766 --> 00:54:01.708
That is his wheelhouse,

00:54:01.768 --> 00:54:03.269
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00:54:03.610 --> 00:54:04.530
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All righty,

00:55:31.094 --> 00:55:32.755
and we are back with Coach

00:55:32.815 --> 00:55:33.675
Robbie Compton.

00:55:34.217 --> 00:55:34.496
Robbie,

00:55:34.516 --> 00:55:36.418
let's flip over to the defensive

00:55:36.438 --> 00:55:36.998
side of the ball.

00:55:37.018 --> 00:55:39.318
Before I jump on that, see, last year,

00:55:39.358 --> 00:55:40.659
y'all, Robbie texts us,

00:55:41.019 --> 00:55:41.659
and I'm going to tell you,

00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:42.721
it's one of those things,

00:55:42.740 --> 00:55:44.280
like he gets to do this every year.

00:55:45.101 --> 00:55:47.143
He texts me and Brian, so y'all,

00:55:47.163 --> 00:55:48.063
guess who I just had dinner with?

00:55:48.103 --> 00:55:49.244
We're like, no clue, and you're like,

00:55:49.483 --> 00:55:50.023
Kevin Jones.

00:55:50.043 --> 00:55:50.923
I'm like, shut up.

00:55:51.023 --> 00:55:51.465
No, you didn't.

00:55:52.144 --> 00:55:52.844
Sends us a picture.

00:55:52.864 --> 00:55:54.445
Yep, here we are at the table, all of us.

00:55:54.545 --> 00:55:56.086
It's like, you son of a –

00:55:56.726 --> 00:55:58.610
But who did you get to have

00:55:58.650 --> 00:56:01.173
dinner with this year at the event?

00:56:02.335 --> 00:56:05.300
Well, we sat down at the table.

00:56:05.380 --> 00:56:06.621
I was with Coach Davis there

00:56:06.641 --> 00:56:07.163
to start with.

00:56:07.583 --> 00:56:08.505
Okay.

00:56:08.525 --> 00:56:09.666
We had some other guys come in.

00:56:09.686 --> 00:56:09.766
Okay.

00:56:12.722 --> 00:56:14.483
old coaching legend in Sparky Woods,

00:56:14.782 --> 00:56:15.623
come down and sit with us

00:56:15.682 --> 00:56:16.324
for a little while.

00:56:16.684 --> 00:56:16.983
Nice.

00:56:18.204 --> 00:56:19.545
Coach Scott Abel,

00:56:19.585 --> 00:56:21.846
who's here at Davidson College.

00:56:22.425 --> 00:56:24.086
I actually coached against

00:56:24.126 --> 00:56:26.248
him years ago when I was at Halifax.

00:56:26.648 --> 00:56:27.887
He was at Amherst High School.

00:56:28.369 --> 00:56:31.030
Okay.

00:56:32.329 --> 00:56:33.351
He's a Longwood guy,

00:56:33.451 --> 00:56:34.610
played baseball in Longwood.

00:56:35.311 --> 00:56:36.771
We watched a little bit of the

00:56:37.795 --> 00:56:38.775
I guess you could call it a

00:56:38.795 --> 00:56:40.036
Longwood basketball game

00:56:40.056 --> 00:56:41.177
where they played against Houston.

00:56:41.916 --> 00:56:45.157
Didn't work out quite as well as I'd hoped,

00:56:45.237 --> 00:56:49.259
but then of course we had,

00:56:49.278 --> 00:56:52.960
I think Xavier DB had

00:56:52.980 --> 00:56:53.701
stopped by there and

00:56:54.460 --> 00:56:55.661
chatted with us for a little bit,

00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.422
which I remember him as a

00:56:58.461 --> 00:56:59.942
player taking some kids

00:57:00.021 --> 00:57:02.603
recruiting there and him

00:57:02.643 --> 00:57:03.702
playing linebacker and

00:57:03.862 --> 00:57:04.824
telling somebody not to

00:57:04.864 --> 00:57:05.844
come across the middle again.

00:57:08.938 --> 00:57:09.498
Then, of course,

00:57:09.579 --> 00:57:13.942
you can't have a good meal

00:57:14.001 --> 00:57:15.202
at a coach's clinic without

00:57:15.262 --> 00:57:18.525
BW Holt and his son, Stu,

00:57:18.585 --> 00:57:20.746
who's a special teams coordinator there.

00:57:21.545 --> 00:57:23.748
I've known BW for several years now,

00:57:23.807 --> 00:57:24.487
coached against him.

00:57:25.708 --> 00:57:27.469
And he's a local legend here

00:57:28.190 --> 00:57:29.851
in the area that I'm in now.

00:57:30.070 --> 00:57:32.592
So some good times with a lot of guys.

00:57:33.202 --> 00:57:33.563
You know,

00:57:34.083 --> 00:57:35.945
you can go to all the clinics you want to,

00:57:36.005 --> 00:57:37.286
sit in all the meetings you want to.

00:57:37.945 --> 00:57:39.807
Sometimes just little chats

00:57:39.847 --> 00:57:41.608
like that around the table,

00:57:42.068 --> 00:57:42.829
you can get a little more

00:57:42.929 --> 00:57:44.851
out of stuff there than you'll ever get,

00:57:45.831 --> 00:57:47.652
you know, drawn on a board all day.

00:57:47.733 --> 00:57:48.833
But, you know,

00:57:49.673 --> 00:57:51.175
some good conversation there,

00:57:51.675 --> 00:57:52.856
some interesting tidbits

00:57:52.936 --> 00:57:54.818
and just seeing how things

00:57:54.858 --> 00:57:56.219
work in coaches' minds.

00:57:56.818 --> 00:57:57.880
Some of it had absolutely

00:57:57.920 --> 00:57:58.840
nothing to do with football,

00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:00.280
just kind of hanging out.

00:58:00.581 --> 00:58:02.422
So it's always good to build that.

00:58:03.342 --> 00:58:05.182
kind of camaraderie within

00:58:05.202 --> 00:58:06.922
their coaching brotherhood,

00:58:06.963 --> 00:58:07.682
I guess you could say.

00:58:09.164 --> 00:58:09.603
Yes, sir.

00:58:10.164 --> 00:58:10.824
Good deal, man.

00:58:11.903 --> 00:58:12.885
So Brian, what else do you got?

00:58:13.284 --> 00:58:14.284
You want to ask him on this stuff?

00:58:14.625 --> 00:58:16.204
So we talked about the offense, uh,

00:58:16.465 --> 00:58:17.945
you know, from a defensive side, which,

00:58:18.045 --> 00:58:19.666
uh, which meetings were you, did you hit,

00:58:19.865 --> 00:58:20.927
who'd you get to see talk?

00:58:22.186 --> 00:58:23.487
I went to, um,

00:58:24.208 --> 00:58:25.547
I went into the linebacker room,

00:58:26.327 --> 00:58:27.268
tried to pick up a couple

00:58:27.307 --> 00:58:28.309
little things here and there.

00:58:28.329 --> 00:58:28.369
Um,

00:58:31.402 --> 00:58:35.085
I played – last year we played a 3-5,

00:58:36.025 --> 00:58:37.927
and I graduated five linebackers.

00:58:38.686 --> 00:58:41.429
So I'm looking for anything

00:58:41.509 --> 00:58:44.090
I can to make some – help

00:58:44.170 --> 00:58:45.572
and try to develop in the next group.

00:58:47.393 --> 00:58:48.994
I had one linebacker that

00:58:50.074 --> 00:58:50.835
there were some things I

00:58:50.875 --> 00:58:51.554
didn't have to teach him.

00:58:51.594 --> 00:58:52.536
He knew where the ball was

00:58:52.596 --> 00:58:53.476
every time it was snapped.

00:58:54.777 --> 00:58:55.036
I mean,

00:58:55.318 --> 00:58:58.119
it kind of like the young man that

00:58:58.139 --> 00:58:59.400
we saw – that we talked

00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:00.440
about earlier that's being

00:59:00.460 --> 00:59:00.981
recruited there.

00:59:02.583 --> 00:59:06.086
My linebacker was a little bit slower.

00:59:06.367 --> 00:59:07.949
He made up for it knowing where to be.

00:59:12.431 --> 00:59:14.173
I tried to pick up a couple

00:59:14.213 --> 00:59:15.213
little things here and there.

00:59:17.056 --> 00:59:19.257
Coach Adibi talked a good

00:59:19.297 --> 00:59:20.858
amount in that meeting.

00:59:20.898 --> 00:59:21.719
I think I got a couple

00:59:21.739 --> 00:59:22.599
little things out of it

00:59:22.659 --> 00:59:24.422
that I think I can use that

00:59:24.461 --> 00:59:25.702
will help my guys a little bit.

00:59:27.684 --> 00:59:29.505
Obviously, we don't get to pick the

00:59:31.601 --> 00:59:32.661
the guys like they do,

00:59:33.481 --> 00:59:36.443
and I just work with what picks me,

00:59:37.063 --> 00:59:38.523
and we're going to go with it.

00:59:38.643 --> 00:59:41.306
So I got some good information out of it,

00:59:41.326 --> 00:59:42.806
some things that Coach

00:59:42.846 --> 00:59:43.786
Adebe talked about.

00:59:44.306 --> 00:59:48.929
I'm working at some D2, D3 school stuff,

00:59:49.309 --> 00:59:49.949
and, you know,

00:59:50.829 --> 00:59:52.271
I think I can put it in

00:59:52.311 --> 00:59:53.231
there and help ourselves.

00:59:55.172 --> 00:59:56.932
One of the other coaches was

00:59:56.992 --> 00:59:58.213
the defensive coordinator.

00:59:59.414 --> 01:00:00.835
They had four key speakers.

01:00:01.427 --> 01:00:02.389
They'd come in and talk.

01:00:03.130 --> 01:00:04.994
And one of them that I got some stuff from,

01:00:05.034 --> 01:00:06.356
that I took some good notes from,

01:00:06.836 --> 01:00:08.139
is defensive coordinator at

01:00:08.179 --> 01:00:08.960
Virginia Union.

01:00:09.420 --> 01:00:10.463
Okay, right down the street here.

01:00:11.362 --> 01:00:11.884
And, yeah,

01:00:11.923 --> 01:00:15.746
they had a phenomenal year this past year,

01:00:15.786 --> 01:00:16.847
especially defensively.

01:00:17.708 --> 01:00:20.570
And just the simplicity of

01:00:20.610 --> 01:00:21.652
the way he does his things,

01:00:22.592 --> 01:00:23.293
I really like.

01:00:23.393 --> 01:00:24.295
And I'll use some of that

01:00:24.375 --> 01:00:25.996
stuff to simplify some

01:00:26.016 --> 01:00:27.958
things so I can not think

01:00:28.038 --> 01:00:29.159
as much and play faster.

01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:31.621
The crazy part was I talked

01:00:31.681 --> 01:00:33.103
to him after he spoke.

01:00:33.842 --> 01:00:36.023
one of his players, which they call,

01:00:36.744 --> 01:00:37.764
he's their nickel player,

01:00:38.405 --> 01:00:40.806
safety linebacker type guy.

01:00:41.606 --> 01:00:42.447
He was actually one of my

01:00:42.487 --> 01:00:43.447
students at the elementary

01:00:43.467 --> 01:00:45.869
school in Virginia when I was there.

01:00:46.769 --> 01:00:47.670
Oh, wow.

01:00:48.150 --> 01:00:48.650
Oh, man.

01:00:49.771 --> 01:00:50.452
William Davis.

01:00:51.211 --> 01:00:51.331
Oh,

01:00:51.351 --> 01:00:53.653
Will's going to be an exceptional

01:00:53.673 --> 01:00:55.494
player somewhere very soon.

01:00:55.994 --> 01:00:57.135
He did some great things for

01:00:57.175 --> 01:00:59.297
them as a nickel last year.

01:00:59.956 --> 01:01:01.577
He's like third on the team in tackles.

01:01:02.403 --> 01:01:03.724
and tackles for loss.

01:01:03.985 --> 01:01:06.166
So little things like that,

01:01:06.226 --> 01:01:07.346
something that I'm looking for.

01:01:08.007 --> 01:01:09.166
Maybe I can find a kid like

01:01:09.206 --> 01:01:11.068
that and use some of his

01:01:11.108 --> 01:01:12.568
techniques and the things that I'm doing.

01:01:12.628 --> 01:01:14.590
So those two things I really

01:01:14.610 --> 01:01:15.309
pulled a lot from.

01:01:15.610 --> 01:01:17.431
I was excited to get some of

01:01:17.451 --> 01:01:18.052
that information.

01:01:18.632 --> 01:01:18.851
Yeah,

01:01:19.132 --> 01:01:20.932
I'm looking at Union's record last year,

01:01:20.952 --> 01:01:23.773
a lot of 10s and 0s and 3s and 7s,

01:01:23.853 --> 01:01:24.594
and they went 10 and 2.

01:01:24.594 --> 01:01:26.135
That's a hell of a year for them.

01:01:26.155 --> 01:01:27.635
So it sounds like you were

01:01:27.655 --> 01:01:28.717
picking definitely a good

01:01:28.737 --> 01:01:30.197
defensive coordinator's mind.

01:01:30.518 --> 01:01:30.878
Yeah, man.

01:01:32.155 --> 01:01:35.338
And it's amazing how just

01:01:35.938 --> 01:01:37.259
simple and fast he allows

01:01:37.298 --> 01:01:38.179
those players to play,

01:01:39.300 --> 01:01:41.342
which in high school level

01:01:41.561 --> 01:01:43.402
and stuff like that,

01:01:43.523 --> 01:01:46.724
the simpler the better for some of them.

01:01:47.644 --> 01:01:47.945
Nice.

01:01:48.606 --> 01:01:50.206
Those were very informative pieces.

01:01:52.244 --> 01:01:52.605
All righty.

01:01:52.764 --> 01:01:52.885
Well,

01:01:52.905 --> 01:01:54.246
I want to stay in the linebacker room

01:01:54.586 --> 01:01:56.487
because we talked about Cunningham.

01:01:56.527 --> 01:01:57.427
You said you didn't see him

01:01:57.487 --> 01:01:58.909
a lot with the ones,

01:01:58.949 --> 01:01:59.769
but he was out there.

01:01:59.849 --> 01:02:00.809
And to your point,

01:02:00.849 --> 01:02:01.510
you made the point about

01:02:01.550 --> 01:02:02.711
Cunningham that he's been

01:02:02.731 --> 01:02:03.632
in there five days.

01:02:04.773 --> 01:02:06.733
But now you've got to break

01:02:06.793 --> 01:02:07.715
it to us about Sam

01:02:07.755 --> 01:02:09.135
Brumfield because it's a 4-1 there.

01:02:09.195 --> 01:02:11.936
Was he running second team or was he not?

01:02:13.458 --> 01:02:15.179
He was not running in second team.

01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:16.079
Okay.

01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:17.300
He was in the first team.

01:02:18.902 --> 01:02:21.043
And he is an impressive specimen.

01:02:22.945 --> 01:02:24.567
at the middle linebacker spot.

01:02:27.628 --> 01:02:28.909
I think they did a very good

01:02:28.969 --> 01:02:29.971
job of finding what they

01:02:29.990 --> 01:02:30.992
were looking for right there.

01:02:32.032 --> 01:02:32.952
And I think you've got an

01:02:33.092 --> 01:02:34.213
impact football player

01:02:34.873 --> 01:02:36.355
immediately right there.

01:02:38.056 --> 01:02:39.737
He is an impressive individual.

01:02:39.757 --> 01:02:41.858
A little shorter in stature.

01:02:45.101 --> 01:02:46.942
People get, in my opinion,

01:02:46.981 --> 01:02:48.443
people get real caught up

01:02:49.123 --> 01:02:51.766
in size and things like that sometimes.

01:02:53.798 --> 01:02:57.342
I would say Brumfield's probably 5'11",

01:02:57.922 --> 01:03:01.545
maybe right at six foot, give or take.

01:03:02.126 --> 01:03:02.365
Okay.

01:03:02.726 --> 01:03:08.931
But, I mean, he's a solid 235, 240 pounds.

01:03:10.012 --> 01:03:10.853
I mean, he's thick.

01:03:10.913 --> 01:03:13.835
If you stood him and Marv back-to-back,

01:03:15.036 --> 01:03:16.197
it'd be hard to tell them apart.

01:03:16.438 --> 01:03:18.079
I think he's just like Marv.

01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:20.041
Okay.

01:03:20.240 --> 01:03:21.342
And, I mean –

01:03:22.869 --> 01:03:25.510
he's going to be – he's filling holes.

01:03:25.550 --> 01:03:26.329
He's filling gaps.

01:03:26.590 --> 01:03:26.731
Now,

01:03:26.771 --> 01:03:28.271
he's got plenty of protection in front

01:03:28.311 --> 01:03:30.831
of him that's going to –

01:03:30.831 --> 01:03:32.672
they're going to require –

01:03:32.672 --> 01:03:33.632
take a lot of attention

01:03:34.112 --> 01:03:35.074
from the offensive line.

01:03:36.313 --> 01:03:37.554
He's going to make a lot of tackles.

01:03:38.275 --> 01:03:39.795
He probably had – what did he have,

01:03:39.815 --> 01:03:41.576
like 130-some tackles last

01:03:41.596 --> 01:03:43.016
year at Middle Tennessee?

01:03:43.476 --> 01:03:44.137
Something like that, yeah.

01:03:44.157 --> 01:03:44.237
Yeah.

01:03:46.201 --> 01:03:47.481
I'd like to see him go for that again,

01:03:47.501 --> 01:03:48.802
man.

01:03:48.822 --> 01:03:49.981
Some of the pictures coming out, I'm like,

01:03:50.041 --> 01:03:50.503
oh, man,

01:03:50.583 --> 01:03:52.682
dude is like – he got tree trunks

01:03:52.722 --> 01:03:53.244
for legs.

01:03:53.443 --> 01:03:53.704
Yes.

01:03:54.983 --> 01:03:55.264
Yes.

01:03:56.184 --> 01:04:00.246
I mean, he's got a wide base, small waist,

01:04:00.726 --> 01:04:04.547
hips, and then a thick, broad chest,

01:04:05.188 --> 01:04:05.768
big arms.

01:04:05.967 --> 01:04:08.309
I mean, he's – that's a man right there,

01:04:08.329 --> 01:04:08.548
buddy.

01:04:10.309 --> 01:04:12.130
And not a lot of times,

01:04:12.309 --> 01:04:13.771
like we talked about that

01:04:13.811 --> 01:04:14.431
other linebacker,

01:04:15.318 --> 01:04:16.380
When he made contact,

01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:18.161
the play stopped there.

01:04:18.722 --> 01:04:18.961
Yeah.

01:04:19.442 --> 01:04:20.063
And, I mean,

01:04:20.143 --> 01:04:21.543
that's what you want as a linebacker.

01:04:22.664 --> 01:04:23.306
And, you know,

01:04:23.326 --> 01:04:24.806
when we talk about linebacker play too,

01:04:24.847 --> 01:04:26.088
I mean, I know you talked about getting,

01:04:26.347 --> 01:04:27.929
like, hung up on height a lot of times.

01:04:27.949 --> 01:04:28.630
I feel like people do

01:04:28.670 --> 01:04:30.711
because if you're able to –

01:04:30.711 --> 01:04:31.711
if you've got good instincts,

01:04:31.731 --> 01:04:32.972
if you're able to avoid blockers,

01:04:33.012 --> 01:04:34.213
if you're able to shed blockers,

01:04:35.215 --> 01:04:36.376
the height only comes into

01:04:36.436 --> 01:04:38.277
play very minimally if you

01:04:38.297 --> 01:04:39.278
can do those things well.

01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.061
If he's already a little bit shorter,

01:04:42.081 --> 01:04:43.262
he's playing at a better pad level.

01:04:43.905 --> 01:04:44.105
Yeah.

01:04:44.465 --> 01:04:45.585
It's harder to get hands on him.

01:04:45.646 --> 01:04:46.186
I mean, it is.

01:04:46.606 --> 01:04:50.126
You take a 6'6 guard against

01:04:50.306 --> 01:04:52.527
a 5'11 linebacker.

01:04:53.527 --> 01:04:53.748
I mean,

01:04:53.788 --> 01:04:56.268
if he gets three inches lower and

01:04:56.668 --> 01:04:59.130
the guard gets six inches low,

01:05:00.431 --> 01:05:01.731
he's still four inches shorter.

01:05:02.231 --> 01:05:02.431
Yeah.

01:05:02.630 --> 01:05:04.012
He's still four inches underneath him.

01:05:04.032 --> 01:05:05.492
And I mean, that plays into his advantage.

01:05:06.052 --> 01:05:08.572
But his instincts are pretty impressive.

01:05:08.612 --> 01:05:09.793
He knew where the ball was going.

01:05:10.233 --> 01:05:11.313
He knew where things were.

01:05:11.873 --> 01:05:13.155
And you could just tell that he was –

01:05:14.295 --> 01:05:15.856
Like I talked a lot when we

01:05:15.876 --> 01:05:17.277
talked during games last year.

01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:19.219
You know, sometimes I was like,

01:05:19.260 --> 01:05:20.541
what are the linebackers seeing?

01:05:20.581 --> 01:05:23.003
Why are they not seeing certain gaps?

01:05:23.744 --> 01:05:24.425
I don't think we're going to

01:05:24.465 --> 01:05:25.626
have that question with this one.

01:05:26.086 --> 01:05:27.007
I don't think Rumpfield's

01:05:27.047 --> 01:05:28.710
going to leave that idea open.

01:05:29.070 --> 01:05:30.451
He's coming in to fill,

01:05:31.331 --> 01:05:32.934
and he's going to know where he's going.

01:05:33.398 --> 01:05:33.918
Yeah,

01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:35.320
and talk about the trickle down from

01:05:35.340 --> 01:05:35.460
that.

01:05:35.501 --> 01:05:36.601
If he knows where he's going,

01:05:36.641 --> 01:05:38.902
he's the quarterback of that front seven.

01:05:39.443 --> 01:05:40.543
Other guys are also going to

01:05:40.563 --> 01:05:41.364
know a little bit better

01:05:41.405 --> 01:05:42.686
where they're going play to play.

01:05:43.246 --> 01:05:43.565
Absolutely.

01:05:43.945 --> 01:05:44.726
Because I think the big

01:05:44.746 --> 01:05:46.367
thing we saw last year is inconsistency.

01:05:46.467 --> 01:05:48.028
There were so many times where –

01:05:49.250 --> 01:05:51.050
we'd look good for for long

01:05:51.090 --> 01:05:52.271
stretches with there'd be

01:05:52.331 --> 01:05:53.373
just those lapses on

01:05:53.413 --> 01:05:54.273
certain plays whether a

01:05:54.594 --> 01:05:55.795
motion kind of threw off

01:05:55.855 --> 01:05:57.175
the mindset of where they

01:05:57.215 --> 01:05:59.217
needed to be or or or some

01:05:59.317 --> 01:06:01.259
other um pre-snap or

01:06:01.318 --> 01:06:02.639
post-snap movement just

01:06:02.659 --> 01:06:04.960
kind of got guys eyes uh

01:06:05.081 --> 01:06:06.101
tricked a little bit and

01:06:06.362 --> 01:06:07.123
they were just way out of

01:06:07.143 --> 01:06:08.163
position I feel like we're

01:06:08.182 --> 01:06:09.143
going to see a lot less of

01:06:09.204 --> 01:06:10.744
that with the guy that has

01:06:10.804 --> 01:06:11.945
those type of instincts at

01:06:11.985 --> 01:06:13.186
that position yeah

01:06:13.887 --> 01:06:14.907
Syracuse should be very

01:06:14.947 --> 01:06:16.789
worried after what Tech did

01:06:16.809 --> 01:06:18.210
to them last year and the

01:06:18.230 --> 01:06:18.989
fact that they may have

01:06:19.030 --> 01:06:20.210
gotten better at linebacker

01:06:20.911 --> 01:06:21.811
to stop even more.

01:06:21.831 --> 01:06:22.931
It's going to be bad news.

01:06:24.193 --> 01:06:25.193
Syracuse better be worried.

01:06:26.634 --> 01:06:27.653
How many safeties are you going for?

01:06:27.693 --> 01:06:28.454
Three or four safeties?

01:06:28.494 --> 01:06:29.534
Let's go three or four safeties.

01:06:29.795 --> 01:06:30.576
Three or four safeties.

01:06:31.396 --> 01:06:32.996
Well, did anybody else catch your eye?

01:06:33.177 --> 01:06:34.938
Because I know I saw someone

01:06:34.978 --> 01:06:35.559
put this up here.

01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:36.378
Let me put it up here

01:06:36.438 --> 01:06:39.460
talking about Kelly Lawson

01:06:39.501 --> 01:06:40.380
moving over to safety.

01:06:40.601 --> 01:06:41.762
Well, Lawson's out this spring.

01:06:42.202 --> 01:06:43.521
So we don't know what's going on.

01:06:43.541 --> 01:06:46.043
And he is, Brian, you've always said Will,

01:06:46.143 --> 01:06:47.402
Sam is where he should be.

01:06:47.903 --> 01:06:50.063
But who was playing those other positions?

01:06:50.943 --> 01:06:51.704
Who'd you see at Will?

01:06:51.744 --> 01:06:54.224
Who'd you see at Sam that

01:06:54.244 --> 01:06:54.864
you can remember?

01:06:55.865 --> 01:06:57.025
McDonald was out there.

01:06:57.726 --> 01:06:58.186
He's at Will.

01:06:58.206 --> 01:07:00.306
Okay.

01:07:01.827 --> 01:07:02.728
I couldn't tell you which

01:07:02.847 --> 01:07:03.547
one because there's two.

01:07:04.268 --> 01:07:04.387
Okay.

01:07:05.063 --> 01:07:07.025
One of them's a defensive end, right?

01:07:07.445 --> 01:07:08.666
Yeah, one's a defensive end,

01:07:08.766 --> 01:07:09.706
one's a linebacker.

01:07:09.907 --> 01:07:10.527
A linebacker.

01:07:11.447 --> 01:07:13.048
I actually talked to their

01:07:13.068 --> 01:07:13.730
dad a little bit.

01:07:14.650 --> 01:07:15.110
Okay.

01:07:15.510 --> 01:07:17.052
During some drills and before practice.

01:07:19.454 --> 01:07:20.655
He's a pretty interesting character.

01:07:20.715 --> 01:07:21.815
He runs a lot of camps and

01:07:21.856 --> 01:07:22.436
does some things.

01:07:23.117 --> 01:07:24.197
Good dude.

01:07:25.637 --> 01:07:27.820
He's very much into the

01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:29.360
culture of things there.

01:07:30.521 --> 01:07:33.463
But I thought McDonald looked very good.

01:07:34.938 --> 01:07:36.838
him and Brumfield worked well together.

01:07:36.878 --> 01:07:37.338
They talked.

01:07:37.378 --> 01:07:38.179
They communicated.

01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:41.059
They did very good at

01:07:41.101 --> 01:07:43.340
finding the football and

01:07:43.561 --> 01:07:44.661
what we call vising it,

01:07:45.442 --> 01:07:46.583
kind of closing in on it,

01:07:48.103 --> 01:07:49.423
each one of them taking a shoulder.

01:07:49.824 --> 01:07:50.244
That way,

01:07:50.324 --> 01:07:51.664
there's really no cut that the

01:07:51.684 --> 01:07:52.224
back can make.

01:07:52.744 --> 01:07:53.766
Yeah.

01:07:53.826 --> 01:07:55.146
We call it vising.

01:07:55.585 --> 01:07:57.186
I don't remember exactly what they call it,

01:07:57.266 --> 01:08:00.847
but they worked very well

01:08:00.887 --> 01:08:02.128
together in that situation.

01:08:04.257 --> 01:08:05.800
I saw several other guys

01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:08.722
kind of rotate at different places.

01:08:08.762 --> 01:08:10.463
They rotated linebackers quite a bit.

01:08:11.023 --> 01:08:11.445
Okay.

01:08:12.184 --> 01:08:13.847
The Woodson kid.

01:08:15.188 --> 01:08:17.489
That's Dwight Vick guy right there.

01:08:18.131 --> 01:08:20.412
I saw him at linebacker some.

01:08:21.234 --> 01:08:21.493
Okay.

01:08:22.715 --> 01:08:23.916
At several different positions,

01:08:24.015 --> 01:08:26.217
which was kind of something

01:08:26.257 --> 01:08:26.998
I didn't expect.

01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.042
But just –

01:08:30.707 --> 01:08:30.967
You know,

01:08:31.028 --> 01:08:32.809
kind of learning and getting things.

01:08:32.849 --> 01:08:34.550
He's a little bit bigger of a linebacker.

01:08:34.590 --> 01:08:35.871
I'd say he's probably 6'2", 6'3".

01:08:35.951 --> 01:08:38.332
Yep.

01:08:38.572 --> 01:08:39.292
Longer kid.

01:08:42.435 --> 01:08:43.895
All depends on how you look at it.

01:08:46.697 --> 01:08:48.037
They're kind of nickel –

01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.742
whatever they call that guy.

01:08:51.381 --> 01:08:51.762
Star.

01:08:52.103 --> 01:08:52.863
Star.

01:08:52.882 --> 01:08:53.203
That's it.

01:08:53.283 --> 01:08:54.003
That's the star.

01:08:54.123 --> 01:08:54.984
Star linebacker.

01:08:55.664 --> 01:08:59.127
I saw my buddy Gabe Williams

01:08:59.188 --> 01:09:00.307
there a little bit.

01:09:00.347 --> 01:09:00.769
Nice.

01:09:00.969 --> 01:09:02.009
He played some,

01:09:02.409 --> 01:09:03.449
looked like linebacker

01:09:03.489 --> 01:09:05.912
stuff out of that spot.

01:09:06.613 --> 01:09:07.733
He did some good things back

01:09:07.773 --> 01:09:09.755
in coverage stuff and doing

01:09:09.774 --> 01:09:10.454
some other things.

01:09:10.475 --> 01:09:12.256
So, I mean,

01:09:12.296 --> 01:09:13.476
it was very interesting to see

01:09:13.516 --> 01:09:14.377
a lot of guys kind of

01:09:14.417 --> 01:09:15.878
moving around and rotating and

01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:18.520
you mentioned Lawson.

01:09:19.220 --> 01:09:21.520
He was number seven last year, right?

01:09:23.421 --> 01:09:24.442
No, that's Jenkins.

01:09:24.721 --> 01:09:25.902
That's Jenkins, yeah.

01:09:26.402 --> 01:09:26.682
Okay.

01:09:27.262 --> 01:09:27.643
Lawson was 21.

01:09:27.703 --> 01:09:31.283
Lawson was 21, okay.

01:09:32.024 --> 01:09:32.904
He wasn't in the spring.

01:09:32.965 --> 01:09:34.244
I probably didn't notice him

01:09:34.545 --> 01:09:36.345
quite as much if he wasn't

01:09:36.386 --> 01:09:38.305
really participating as much,

01:09:39.087 --> 01:09:43.167
but you can definitely tell

01:09:43.207 --> 01:09:45.408
they've gotten more comfortable in

01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:47.440
where they want them to be

01:09:47.480 --> 01:09:48.220
and what they want them to

01:09:48.261 --> 01:09:50.261
do and communicating.

01:09:50.341 --> 01:09:51.362
And I think Brumfeld's

01:09:51.402 --> 01:09:52.483
brought some leadership to

01:09:52.523 --> 01:09:54.524
that whole thing too.

01:09:56.204 --> 01:09:57.225
Just getting comfortable in

01:09:57.244 --> 01:09:57.945
this situation.

01:09:58.565 --> 01:10:00.226
They kind of look at him and say,

01:10:00.287 --> 01:10:02.528
this is a cat that, you know,

01:10:02.587 --> 01:10:03.547
was one of the tops in the

01:10:03.568 --> 01:10:05.649
country as a linebacker last year.

01:10:05.668 --> 01:10:06.930
He probably knows what he's doing.

01:10:07.810 --> 01:10:09.411
We can trust what he tells us.

01:10:10.271 --> 01:10:12.432
And you can see that kind of

01:10:12.453 --> 01:10:13.033
coming together.

01:10:13.769 --> 01:10:13.908
Yeah,

01:10:13.929 --> 01:10:15.128
and it's nice getting some leadership

01:10:15.168 --> 01:10:16.470
kind of back in that room, too,

01:10:16.550 --> 01:10:17.449
because I feel like we

01:10:17.489 --> 01:10:19.930
leaned on Dax for so long.

01:10:19.989 --> 01:10:21.430
And then, you know,

01:10:21.449 --> 01:10:22.091
there was a kind of a

01:10:22.570 --> 01:10:24.570
little bit of a void, I think,

01:10:24.591 --> 01:10:26.270
from a leadership perspective last year,

01:10:26.331 --> 01:10:27.452
even though I think from a

01:10:27.612 --> 01:10:30.851
athleticism standpoint,

01:10:30.891 --> 01:10:31.912
last year's linebacker

01:10:31.931 --> 01:10:32.813
group probably went up.

01:10:32.853 --> 01:10:33.813
But I think the leadership

01:10:33.832 --> 01:10:36.853
was a little bit kind of work in progress,

01:10:36.932 --> 01:10:37.132
right?

01:10:37.153 --> 01:10:39.213
There's definitely some athleticism there.

01:10:39.734 --> 01:10:39.894
Yeah.

01:10:41.192 --> 01:10:41.653
For sure.

01:10:42.533 --> 01:10:43.555
I just love what you and

01:10:43.996 --> 01:10:45.136
Brian just talked about here.

01:10:45.197 --> 01:10:45.377
Brian,

01:10:45.417 --> 01:10:46.578
you reiterated a little bit more

01:10:46.599 --> 01:10:47.560
about having the mic

01:10:47.581 --> 01:10:48.641
knowing where he's going

01:10:48.681 --> 01:10:50.144
makes everybody else know

01:10:50.163 --> 01:10:50.784
where they're going.

01:10:51.024 --> 01:10:51.324
Oh, yeah.

01:10:51.725 --> 01:10:52.126
And I mean,

01:10:52.186 --> 01:10:54.510
if it's like he's going to Sea Gap, well,

01:10:54.909 --> 01:10:56.171
I ain't supposed to go to Sea Gap.

01:10:56.671 --> 01:10:57.252
Oh, that makes sense.

01:10:57.313 --> 01:10:58.134
I need to go B-Gap.

01:10:58.854 --> 01:10:59.774
Then somebody else is going

01:10:59.795 --> 01:11:00.576
to go ask here.

01:11:01.556 --> 01:11:02.436
When you know that the guy

01:11:02.457 --> 01:11:03.518
that's responsible for the

01:11:03.557 --> 01:11:05.539
checks knows what the checks should be.

01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:06.480
Yeah.

01:11:07.261 --> 01:11:07.662
That helps.

01:11:08.563 --> 01:11:09.564
That's what I've relied a

01:11:09.623 --> 01:11:10.984
lot on as a high school

01:11:11.024 --> 01:11:11.985
coach the last two or three

01:11:12.006 --> 01:11:15.590
years is I knew my mic knew

01:11:15.649 --> 01:11:16.911
what was going on and where to be.

01:11:17.712 --> 01:11:18.733
And I could get the other guy.

01:11:18.972 --> 01:11:20.073
I could place the other guys

01:11:20.113 --> 01:11:20.755
where I needed them.

01:11:21.475 --> 01:11:23.016
but I knew that my mic could

01:11:23.056 --> 01:11:23.797
take care of things.

01:11:24.578 --> 01:11:25.838
And that's where I've got to

01:11:25.878 --> 01:11:27.039
work this year to find a

01:11:27.859 --> 01:11:29.020
guy that I know I can trust

01:11:29.041 --> 01:11:29.921
to be where they need to be.

01:11:30.601 --> 01:11:30.721
Nice.

01:11:30.742 --> 01:11:31.462
All right,

01:11:31.603 --> 01:11:32.342
we're going to go a little off

01:11:32.363 --> 01:11:33.264
script here because Tally's

01:11:33.283 --> 01:11:34.824
got a question he wants to ask you.

01:11:36.426 --> 01:11:38.046
So which coach impressed you

01:11:38.067 --> 01:11:39.887
the most this year at the camp?

01:11:41.729 --> 01:11:42.369
Which coach?

01:11:42.489 --> 01:11:44.150
As far as like the drills on

01:11:44.171 --> 01:11:46.853
the field or in like the meetings?

01:11:48.041 --> 01:11:48.940
I say just overall.

01:11:49.400 --> 01:11:50.442
Yeah.

01:11:50.561 --> 01:11:51.622
Or give both a little bit.

01:11:52.002 --> 01:11:52.242
Yeah.

01:11:54.122 --> 01:11:58.342
Coach Mines is probably up

01:11:58.382 --> 01:12:01.363
there in both ways because

01:12:01.384 --> 01:12:04.244
he's so much – there's a

01:12:04.324 --> 01:12:06.024
reason that they have

01:12:06.064 --> 01:12:07.386
decided that he's the

01:12:07.426 --> 01:12:08.405
assistant head coach now.

01:12:08.645 --> 01:12:08.905
Yeah.

01:12:09.525 --> 01:12:12.027
Yeah.

01:12:12.266 --> 01:12:12.487
Yep.

01:12:12.966 --> 01:12:13.726
We lost him again.

01:12:13.747 --> 01:12:16.087
That's good punctuation though.

01:12:16.988 --> 01:12:17.488
Oh, it's great.

01:12:17.688 --> 01:12:19.168
Little pregnant pause after that line.

01:12:22.971 --> 01:12:23.592
He's going to come back.

01:12:23.653 --> 01:12:24.873
Just give it a second here.

01:12:26.395 --> 01:12:27.315
Every time when I feel like

01:12:27.355 --> 01:12:28.176
I'm making a good point,

01:12:28.237 --> 01:12:29.077
it cuts out and I have to

01:12:29.136 --> 01:12:31.679
stop and hold on to it.

01:12:32.659 --> 01:12:33.060
Mines.

01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:36.023
Coach Mines is, like I said,

01:12:36.203 --> 01:12:37.904
it's not a surprise that

01:12:37.944 --> 01:12:39.024
he's in the position he is.

01:12:39.445 --> 01:12:40.326
He's one of the great young

01:12:40.367 --> 01:12:41.327
coaches coming up.

01:12:42.707 --> 01:12:43.529
And I think he's going to

01:12:43.548 --> 01:12:44.409
have some opportunities.

01:12:46.426 --> 01:12:47.547
that are presented to him in

01:12:48.189 --> 01:12:51.070
the near future.

01:12:51.291 --> 01:12:52.152
He's energetic.

01:12:52.231 --> 01:12:53.353
He's all over the field.

01:12:54.314 --> 01:12:55.534
He's getting things going.

01:12:56.916 --> 01:12:58.136
He's, you know,

01:12:59.016 --> 01:13:00.097
he's kind of a heartbeat

01:13:00.158 --> 01:13:02.840
out there on that offensive side.

01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:07.804
Coach Bowen is the methodical, you know,

01:13:07.944 --> 01:13:10.345
calm, keeping things going,

01:13:10.386 --> 01:13:11.346
doing what he needs to do.

01:13:11.967 --> 01:13:13.288
Mines is just, I mean, he's

01:13:14.935 --> 01:13:16.216
he, he's a guy that's out there.

01:13:16.256 --> 01:13:16.996
He's the leader of a,

01:13:17.235 --> 01:13:18.055
of a group out there.

01:13:18.716 --> 01:13:19.377
And I mean, he's,

01:13:19.957 --> 01:13:20.818
I think that was one of the

01:13:20.858 --> 01:13:21.797
most impressive things

01:13:22.457 --> 01:13:23.439
running things like that.

01:13:24.298 --> 01:13:27.680
Um, defensively, I mean,

01:13:28.841 --> 01:13:30.341
cheetahs always all over the place.

01:13:30.362 --> 01:13:35.764
Uh, he, uh, he's, he's a high energy,

01:13:36.224 --> 01:13:37.484
pray lose a high energy guy.

01:13:38.444 --> 01:13:39.886
Um, but you know,

01:13:40.166 --> 01:13:41.626
you can never go wrong with those.

01:13:42.726 --> 01:13:42.827
Um,

01:13:44.420 --> 01:13:45.979
Coach Price has that presence.

01:13:46.820 --> 01:13:47.121
You know,

01:13:47.201 --> 01:13:50.822
he's the man on the – he's kind

01:13:50.881 --> 01:13:55.162
of the – almost like the

01:13:55.243 --> 01:13:56.144
old man on the block.

01:13:58.123 --> 01:13:59.805
Everybody knows what to expect from him.

01:14:00.685 --> 01:14:02.865
But I think Coach Mines is

01:14:02.905 --> 01:14:04.445
probably the one that stood out the most.

01:14:04.765 --> 01:14:05.105
Okay.

01:14:05.546 --> 01:14:07.087
They know and they're going

01:14:07.106 --> 01:14:08.426
to follow his energy and he

01:14:08.466 --> 01:14:09.328
keeps things going.

01:14:09.688 --> 01:14:10.787
And he gets some things

01:14:10.847 --> 01:14:12.288
started with some of the

01:14:12.309 --> 01:14:13.628
DBs and stuff a little bit too now.

01:14:14.349 --> 01:14:16.649
So, I mean, that's a competitive edge.

01:14:16.909 --> 01:14:17.510
It's a good thing.

01:14:18.010 --> 01:14:20.150
Your minds and Coach Cheetah

01:14:20.171 --> 01:14:21.291
start going back and forth

01:14:21.350 --> 01:14:23.452
and getting some of that on

01:14:23.511 --> 01:14:24.731
one side and hype that other.

01:14:24.792 --> 01:14:26.273
It just makes practice that much better.

01:14:27.773 --> 01:14:28.814
I think those are good

01:14:28.873 --> 01:14:32.875
things to have guys keeping things going.

01:14:33.225 --> 01:14:35.127
When coaches can bring the juice like that,

01:14:35.226 --> 01:14:36.627
it trickles down to the players.

01:14:36.688 --> 01:14:37.849
I mean,

01:14:38.109 --> 01:14:40.390
it's such a good atmosphere for a

01:14:40.451 --> 01:14:40.850
practice.

01:14:40.930 --> 01:14:43.252
I'm not going to tell you a lie.

01:14:43.313 --> 01:14:46.154
Coach Watecki and I, our head coach here,

01:14:46.175 --> 01:14:48.756
we've been working together for 17 years.

01:14:49.216 --> 01:14:50.457
He's an offensive line guy.

01:14:50.957 --> 01:14:52.519
For years, I coached defensive line.

01:14:54.360 --> 01:14:54.900
I mean,

01:14:55.221 --> 01:14:56.481
we would start yelling at each other,

01:14:56.521 --> 01:14:57.302
getting to the point where

01:14:57.323 --> 01:14:58.703
the kids thought these two

01:14:58.764 --> 01:15:03.345
guys might come to a practice.

01:15:03.525 --> 01:15:03.746
I mean,

01:15:04.447 --> 01:15:05.546
we would have some scuffles here

01:15:05.567 --> 01:15:07.849
and there at practice.

01:15:07.889 --> 01:15:09.109
I'm not going to deny that it happens.

01:15:09.168 --> 01:15:09.529
It happens.

01:15:10.189 --> 01:15:10.609
But, I mean,

01:15:10.869 --> 01:15:12.631
we could get into some stuff

01:15:12.650 --> 01:15:13.412
during practice now,

01:15:13.431 --> 01:15:14.271
and the kids are just like,

01:15:14.853 --> 01:15:15.632
this is great.

01:15:16.993 --> 01:15:18.395
Jim and I both look at each other and go,

01:15:18.414 --> 01:15:19.215
hey, it worked.

01:15:19.516 --> 01:15:19.936
Look at that.

01:15:20.077 --> 01:15:22.298
Getting the fights going.

01:15:22.819 --> 01:15:24.159
Almost as if it was planned.

01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:28.243
We got a little WWE situation going on.

01:15:28.262 --> 01:15:30.505
There you go.

01:15:32.126 --> 01:15:33.447
He's a tall man with one leg.

01:15:33.487 --> 01:15:34.087
I don't think I'm going to

01:15:34.108 --> 01:15:34.728
try any of that.

01:15:36.088 --> 01:15:37.130
If he can take off his leg

01:15:37.170 --> 01:15:37.869
and beat you with it,

01:15:37.890 --> 01:15:39.171
you don't want to stay near that.

01:15:43.274 --> 01:15:43.533
All right,

01:15:43.554 --> 01:15:44.635
so let's pivot over to secondary.

01:15:44.654 --> 01:15:45.515
You talked about Cheetah,

01:15:46.417 --> 01:15:48.018
but I think some of the

01:15:48.057 --> 01:15:49.139
question marks that we have

01:15:49.498 --> 01:15:51.420
going into this year is safety.

01:15:52.461 --> 01:15:53.481
Did you see any of the guys

01:15:53.542 --> 01:15:54.563
kind of at that position

01:15:54.603 --> 01:15:56.163
step up and kind of what

01:15:56.363 --> 01:15:57.784
was your read on them?

01:15:58.525 --> 01:16:02.988
They have the athletic

01:16:03.029 --> 01:16:04.610
ability and the talent for

01:16:04.650 --> 01:16:06.551
that secondary corner of

01:16:06.591 --> 01:16:08.453
safeties to be scary good.

01:16:10.327 --> 01:16:11.707
you can't go wrong when you

01:16:11.728 --> 01:16:13.168
have a secondary and you

01:16:13.189 --> 01:16:15.270
have a corner that wears a

01:16:15.350 --> 01:16:15.970
number like 44.

01:16:15.970 --> 01:16:16.409
Oh, Lord.

01:16:17.411 --> 01:16:22.033
I'm just waiting for Tally's message.

01:16:22.113 --> 01:16:28.215
I mean, in the scrimmage, I mean, oh,

01:16:28.235 --> 01:16:29.015
what's the kid's name?

01:16:30.015 --> 01:16:30.376
Phillips.

01:16:31.516 --> 01:16:32.436
Moose, the safety.

01:16:32.618 --> 01:16:33.198
Yeah, Moose.

01:16:34.438 --> 01:16:35.698
Man, he laid some wood.

01:16:37.104 --> 01:16:37.284
in the,

01:16:37.385 --> 01:16:38.506
in like the first two or three

01:16:38.565 --> 01:16:39.947
plays to the point that

01:16:40.768 --> 01:16:42.069
some of those defensive leaders are like,

01:16:42.088 --> 01:16:46.631
Hey man, calm down a little bit.

01:16:46.652 --> 01:16:50.255
Save some for the fall.

01:16:51.355 --> 01:16:51.615
I mean,

01:16:52.076 --> 01:16:53.737
they have no problem being physical.

01:16:54.358 --> 01:16:58.501
They are athletic in all aspects.

01:16:58.841 --> 01:16:59.622
Now there's some young

01:16:59.702 --> 01:17:01.122
safeties and stuff out there, but

01:17:03.203 --> 01:17:04.663
they have the ability with

01:17:04.703 --> 01:17:05.784
some of those players to be

01:17:05.845 --> 01:17:07.346
scary good in that secondary.

01:17:08.547 --> 01:17:09.268
Can I ask you this?

01:17:09.427 --> 01:17:11.149
Cause you, you know, Stroman, you know,

01:17:11.170 --> 01:17:13.011
Stroman, it's the name Greg was there.

01:17:13.091 --> 01:17:14.011
Greg was a great player.

01:17:14.032 --> 01:17:14.733
Yeah.

01:17:14.912 --> 01:17:17.855
If Phillips becomes that strong safety,

01:17:18.655 --> 01:17:19.676
cause we know you feel like

01:17:19.697 --> 01:17:21.078
Jalen Stroman's got the free set.

01:17:21.198 --> 01:17:23.740
I mean, if he locks down the safety room,

01:17:23.761 --> 01:17:24.801
you said scary good.

01:17:25.722 --> 01:17:25.962
If, if,

01:17:26.519 --> 01:17:27.298
if he lays the wood and

01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:29.159
don't get ejected on the first hit,

01:17:29.180 --> 01:17:30.201
he throws at somebody,

01:17:30.261 --> 01:17:34.002
which as we know in this, like, is he,

01:17:34.063 --> 01:17:34.804
is he that piece?

01:17:34.984 --> 01:17:36.824
If he, if he, that piece where you saw,

01:17:37.404 --> 01:17:39.546
if he's laying that and everybody else,

01:17:39.905 --> 01:17:41.386
you know, you know, strong,

01:17:42.006 --> 01:17:42.828
you saw some of the young

01:17:42.887 --> 01:17:43.828
corners play last year.

01:17:43.868 --> 01:17:44.988
You saw Stroban play.

01:17:45.389 --> 01:17:48.451
We saw Mansoor and Delane.

01:17:51.351 --> 01:17:54.073
That dude is athletic.

01:17:55.375 --> 01:17:55.555
So,

01:17:56.983 --> 01:17:57.443
All right.

01:17:57.944 --> 01:17:58.184
Yeah,

01:17:58.804 --> 01:18:01.025
I think Phillips is – I would say

01:18:01.445 --> 01:18:03.167
he's probably got that aggressiveness.

01:18:03.207 --> 01:18:06.090
He's got that pop to him,

01:18:06.430 --> 01:18:07.990
and he enjoys it.

01:18:08.431 --> 01:18:09.372
Like, he's looking for it.

01:18:10.832 --> 01:18:12.314
And I think that's going to

01:18:12.335 --> 01:18:14.735
be – I think that's going

01:18:14.756 --> 01:18:15.596
to be great for them.

01:18:16.398 --> 01:18:16.518
Well,

01:18:16.557 --> 01:18:17.819
it's funny because you mentioned

01:18:17.838 --> 01:18:18.918
Pearson a little while ago,

01:18:19.060 --> 01:18:21.180
and it harkens back to the

01:18:21.261 --> 01:18:24.921
days of where we had always had –

01:18:24.921 --> 01:18:27.083
that popped, clean pops.

01:18:27.764 --> 01:18:28.524
Still to this day,

01:18:28.824 --> 01:18:30.006
the nastiest hit I've ever

01:18:30.086 --> 01:18:34.068
seen was Cam Chancellor on Tyler Boyd.

01:18:34.788 --> 01:18:36.229
And everybody's like, that's targeting.

01:18:36.649 --> 01:18:37.871
And you look, it's like, no,

01:18:37.911 --> 01:18:39.752
he went shoulder to

01:18:39.872 --> 01:18:41.632
shoulder and just not the

01:18:42.094 --> 01:18:43.875
shit out of him.

01:18:43.935 --> 01:18:45.496
And I like that because I

01:18:45.536 --> 01:18:46.537
think that's a trickle-down

01:18:46.596 --> 01:18:47.858
effect of who your coach is

01:18:47.917 --> 01:18:51.180
because the coaches, don't target them.

01:18:52.305 --> 01:18:53.145
Don't target them because

01:18:53.166 --> 01:18:54.326
that will get you ejected.

01:18:54.926 --> 01:18:55.966
But if you throw that

01:18:56.067 --> 01:18:57.467
shoulder in their ribcage

01:18:57.488 --> 01:18:58.547
and in their shoulder and

01:18:58.608 --> 01:19:01.649
you pop them down the rest of the game,

01:19:02.789 --> 01:19:04.371
not only are they thinking about it,

01:19:06.372 --> 01:19:07.653
the other guys are thinking about it.

01:19:07.893 --> 01:19:09.033
The quarterback is now

01:19:09.094 --> 01:19:10.253
thinking about not putting

01:19:10.274 --> 01:19:11.854
it in a spot to get them wrecked.

01:19:12.414 --> 01:19:13.796
And when they start thinking like that,

01:19:14.551 --> 01:19:15.251
Bad passes.

01:19:15.631 --> 01:19:16.171
Yeah.

01:19:17.072 --> 01:19:18.932
So, I love seeing it.

01:19:19.033 --> 01:19:21.132
Anybody else out in the secondary?

01:19:21.153 --> 01:19:22.134
Because you mentioned Phillips.

01:19:22.154 --> 01:19:23.014
You know all the other guys.

01:19:23.033 --> 01:19:25.475
Did anybody else catch your eye?

01:19:26.274 --> 01:19:27.315
The corners,

01:19:27.416 --> 01:19:31.077
just how – the way they move

01:19:31.176 --> 01:19:31.997
in and out of things.

01:19:33.377 --> 01:19:34.297
You think they're in man,

01:19:34.337 --> 01:19:35.297
and the next thing you know,

01:19:35.337 --> 01:19:36.538
they're dropping and moving.

01:19:36.618 --> 01:19:38.659
And just that coverage look.

01:19:39.619 --> 01:19:42.740
It's – they're so skilled.

01:19:43.967 --> 01:19:45.028
and athletic enough to be

01:19:45.047 --> 01:19:46.048
able to do those things,

01:19:46.229 --> 01:19:47.229
I think is impressive.

01:19:48.069 --> 01:19:49.010
But that's what we've grown

01:19:49.029 --> 01:19:50.711
to know from Virginia Tech

01:19:50.751 --> 01:19:51.411
in the secondary,

01:19:52.331 --> 01:19:55.092
is their DBs have been able

01:19:55.132 --> 01:19:57.594
to adjust and do things

01:19:57.634 --> 01:19:59.154
that other teams haven't been able to do.

01:20:03.115 --> 01:20:05.337
There's been a long history

01:20:05.356 --> 01:20:07.177
of those DBs there,

01:20:08.118 --> 01:20:09.177
and I don't think this

01:20:09.217 --> 01:20:10.458
crowd is any different.

01:20:11.475 --> 01:20:13.677
teams are going to have a hard time with,

01:20:15.259 --> 01:20:16.180
they start changing up

01:20:16.239 --> 01:20:17.601
coverage looks and doing

01:20:17.641 --> 01:20:18.261
things like that.

01:20:19.082 --> 01:20:19.342
You know,

01:20:19.644 --> 01:20:20.984
we know we don't want to throw

01:20:21.045 --> 01:20:22.145
anywhere near this guy.

01:20:22.786 --> 01:20:23.186
Or that guy.

01:20:23.506 --> 01:20:25.189
And he's not dropping to that area,

01:20:25.548 --> 01:20:26.270
and he's moving to

01:20:26.289 --> 01:20:27.090
something else that we

01:20:27.130 --> 01:20:27.751
thought was going to be

01:20:27.770 --> 01:20:29.072
open because we had him occupied.

01:20:30.092 --> 01:20:33.496
And they're that good, I think,

01:20:33.636 --> 01:20:34.756
in the secondary part,

01:20:35.377 --> 01:20:37.239
which is a great thing to see back.

01:20:39.470 --> 01:20:41.570
I was curious if you saw

01:20:41.631 --> 01:20:43.412
Reddish get much play in

01:20:43.431 --> 01:20:45.653
those scrimmages you were to look at.

01:20:46.354 --> 01:20:47.274
I think he was in there.

01:20:47.413 --> 01:20:51.695
He was in and out some.

01:20:54.818 --> 01:20:55.837
The view sometimes,

01:20:56.538 --> 01:20:57.859
we were there with all the coaches.

01:20:57.899 --> 01:20:58.939
They had a lot of recruits

01:20:58.979 --> 01:20:59.939
and stuff there that day.

01:21:00.801 --> 01:21:01.940
Sometimes it's hard to see a

01:21:01.980 --> 01:21:03.122
lot of things and really

01:21:03.162 --> 01:21:04.783
comprehend what's going on at times.

01:21:06.944 --> 01:21:07.104
But

01:21:08.703 --> 01:21:08.903
I mean,

01:21:08.922 --> 01:21:10.304
they had a lot of guys rotating in

01:21:10.344 --> 01:21:11.385
and out where,

01:21:11.425 --> 01:21:12.905
as far as Skelly stuff goes

01:21:13.247 --> 01:21:15.247
and the team group,

01:21:15.307 --> 01:21:16.529
you saw a lot of the same

01:21:17.310 --> 01:21:18.171
five or six people.

01:21:19.891 --> 01:21:21.273
And they are,

01:21:23.914 --> 01:21:25.216
they are going to do exactly

01:21:25.256 --> 01:21:26.237
what's what's billed.

01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:30.740
And you can, you can expect,

01:21:32.002 --> 01:21:34.564
I think you can expect very good, um,

01:21:34.823 --> 01:21:36.244
very good work out of the secondary.

01:21:37.185 --> 01:21:37.265
Um,

01:21:39.646 --> 01:21:40.528
And a lot of teams should be

01:21:40.587 --> 01:21:43.230
worried about whether

01:21:43.251 --> 01:21:44.591
they're going to be able to

01:21:45.311 --> 01:21:46.713
extend the field and open

01:21:46.753 --> 01:21:47.675
things up underneath

01:21:47.774 --> 01:21:48.675
because of those things,

01:21:49.076 --> 01:21:49.997
because they can lock some

01:21:50.037 --> 01:21:51.137
things down out there, I think.

01:21:51.158 --> 01:21:52.578
All right.

01:21:53.606 --> 01:21:54.087
All right,

01:21:54.106 --> 01:21:55.847
we finally get to the final

01:21:55.948 --> 01:21:57.309
piece of the defensive puzzle,

01:21:57.349 --> 01:21:58.750
and that's the defensive line.

01:21:59.451 --> 01:22:00.551
I know Brian's got – he's

01:22:00.591 --> 01:22:01.992
got his questions about the interior,

01:22:02.032 --> 01:22:03.573
but I want to ask about somebody.

01:22:03.592 --> 01:22:05.673
I want to ask about APR.

01:22:05.833 --> 01:22:08.956
You saw him last year, that kid balled.

01:22:09.136 --> 01:22:13.639
I mean, right at 10 sacks, relentless,

01:22:14.300 --> 01:22:16.001
crazy motor, crazy skill.

01:22:19.042 --> 01:22:20.483
Does he look like he took a step?

01:22:22.805 --> 01:22:23.024
Yeah.

01:22:26.813 --> 01:22:27.733
I don't know if I would say

01:22:27.752 --> 01:22:29.354
he – it's hard to take many

01:22:29.414 --> 01:22:30.996
steps from where he did last year.

01:22:31.095 --> 01:22:31.576
It's true.

01:22:31.636 --> 01:22:34.838
He's pretty impressive.

01:22:36.140 --> 01:22:36.921
He looks a little more

01:22:36.961 --> 01:22:38.341
comfortable than what he

01:22:38.362 --> 01:22:39.382
did at the same practice

01:22:39.403 --> 01:22:45.868
that I saw last year.

01:22:46.068 --> 01:22:47.569
That whole group up front

01:22:47.930 --> 01:22:49.690
gave those ones some trouble now.

01:22:51.313 --> 01:22:53.314
But, I mean, you've got to –

01:22:55.185 --> 01:22:55.465
You know,

01:22:55.685 --> 01:22:57.886
a top end in the country in

01:22:57.947 --> 01:22:59.908
defensive end in sacks, right?

01:22:59.927 --> 01:23:00.047
Yep.

01:23:00.507 --> 01:23:01.668
I mean, he was up there.

01:23:02.288 --> 01:23:02.569
Oh, yeah.

01:23:02.908 --> 01:23:04.470
You've got a returning all –

01:23:04.470 --> 01:23:05.610
you've got a guy coming in

01:23:05.631 --> 01:23:08.072
that's all ACC two years in a row.

01:23:08.653 --> 01:23:08.853
Yep.

01:23:10.132 --> 01:23:11.413
You've got a returning guy

01:23:11.453 --> 01:23:12.194
that's been there for

01:23:12.255 --> 01:23:13.814
several years already in Fuga.

01:23:16.256 --> 01:23:19.979
I mean, I personally was worried –

01:23:20.855 --> 01:23:21.957
at the end of last year with

01:23:21.976 --> 01:23:23.358
the number of guys that, you know,

01:23:23.417 --> 01:23:24.559
were questioned to be

01:23:24.618 --> 01:23:26.180
leaving from that group and

01:23:26.761 --> 01:23:27.881
where the depth would be

01:23:27.942 --> 01:23:28.641
and things like that,

01:23:30.023 --> 01:23:31.363
watching that practice,

01:23:31.404 --> 01:23:32.345
I feel pretty good about

01:23:32.385 --> 01:23:33.445
what they've done in that room.

01:23:35.106 --> 01:23:37.909
And I don't doubt Coach Price at all.

01:23:39.230 --> 01:23:40.230
He knows what he's doing.

01:23:40.270 --> 01:23:41.532
He knows what he's bringing in there.

01:23:43.073 --> 01:23:44.274
We had some concern about

01:23:44.335 --> 01:23:45.416
the depth of that group,

01:23:45.716 --> 01:23:46.737
and I don't think that

01:23:46.756 --> 01:23:47.516
there should be a lot of

01:23:47.556 --> 01:23:48.497
concern about it right now.

01:23:50.841 --> 01:23:51.323
I'm with you.

01:23:51.943 --> 01:23:52.444
I'm with you.

01:23:53.085 --> 01:23:55.688
I mean, I think I want to specifically,

01:23:55.847 --> 01:23:56.068
you know,

01:23:56.087 --> 01:23:58.470
we can look at what did you see

01:23:58.511 --> 01:23:59.171
from Peebles?

01:23:59.190 --> 01:23:59.752
What did you see from

01:23:59.811 --> 01:24:01.333
Copeland and Gilliam?

01:24:01.354 --> 01:24:02.454
There's three guys on the

01:24:02.494 --> 01:24:04.757
interior that we brought in

01:24:04.797 --> 01:24:06.019
in the offseason, you know,

01:24:07.119 --> 01:24:09.081
One of them, big-time accolades.

01:24:09.122 --> 01:24:11.243
The other, you know,

01:24:11.262 --> 01:24:12.764
a lot of different skill

01:24:12.804 --> 01:24:14.385
sets between the three there.

01:24:14.444 --> 01:24:14.664
You know,

01:24:14.805 --> 01:24:16.086
what did you see from them and

01:24:16.145 --> 01:24:16.827
kind of where do you think

01:24:17.806 --> 01:24:20.368
those guys are going to slot in, you know,

01:24:20.849 --> 01:24:21.810
as we kind of push through

01:24:21.829 --> 01:24:22.729
the spring here?

01:24:23.251 --> 01:24:24.332
Gilliam was a kid that came

01:24:24.372 --> 01:24:25.452
in from Oklahoma, correct?

01:24:25.811 --> 01:24:26.012
Yep.

01:24:26.172 --> 01:24:26.472
Correct.

01:24:26.912 --> 01:24:28.073
Okay.

01:24:29.194 --> 01:24:30.935
And I don't mean this in a

01:24:30.975 --> 01:24:32.016
bad way whatsoever.

01:24:33.917 --> 01:24:35.698
He was the one that I looked at.

01:24:37.431 --> 01:24:40.354
the least and said he may

01:24:40.394 --> 01:24:41.354
make a huge impact.

01:24:44.197 --> 01:24:44.657
It's weird.

01:24:47.198 --> 01:24:50.020
People's come in and I mean, he's,

01:24:50.220 --> 01:24:52.023
he's making an impact, which we,

01:24:53.082 --> 01:24:54.444
I kind of thought that anyway,

01:24:55.024 --> 01:24:57.766
I'd seen him play before he was at Duke.

01:24:58.667 --> 01:24:59.908
I mean, he come in and I mean,

01:24:59.927 --> 01:25:01.208
he's a worker now he's working.

01:25:01.750 --> 01:25:01.930
Yeah.

01:25:02.250 --> 01:25:02.409
Yeah.

01:25:02.729 --> 01:25:04.792
Poor center guard, guard combinations.

01:25:05.229 --> 01:25:06.149
They better start learning

01:25:06.189 --> 01:25:07.490
how to do some better double teams.

01:25:09.271 --> 01:25:09.532
You know,

01:25:09.671 --> 01:25:11.492
the ACC better learn some double

01:25:11.511 --> 01:25:12.972
teams to help that – to

01:25:12.993 --> 01:25:14.332
stop that kid because he's

01:25:14.353 --> 01:25:15.314
blowing through some things.

01:25:17.875 --> 01:25:18.694
Fuga looked good,

01:25:18.734 --> 01:25:19.836
but we knew Fuga was

01:25:20.076 --> 01:25:21.515
because he's back and he's

01:25:21.555 --> 01:25:22.275
doing what he does.

01:25:25.057 --> 01:25:27.658
Copeland is not the biggest

01:25:27.698 --> 01:25:29.738
character on the defensive line up front.

01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:33.921
But, man – and I showed you guys –

01:25:35.164 --> 01:25:36.405
a clip that I'd seen of it.

01:25:37.386 --> 01:25:39.247
And he, he blows,

01:25:39.268 --> 01:25:40.469
he blows the fingers off of

01:25:40.488 --> 01:25:41.609
Schick's gloves at one point.

01:25:45.212 --> 01:25:46.033
And it wasn't nothing he

01:25:46.054 --> 01:25:46.654
could do about it.

01:25:47.333 --> 01:25:47.475
I mean,

01:25:47.515 --> 01:25:49.036
he just got off the ball that quick.

01:25:49.095 --> 01:25:50.296
He moved the hands and I mean,

01:25:50.317 --> 01:25:53.139
he was moving, but I mean,

01:25:53.338 --> 01:25:56.081
you can see him getting leverage,

01:25:56.201 --> 01:25:57.582
playing to the low pad level,

01:25:57.601 --> 01:25:58.722
getting hands extended.

01:26:00.150 --> 01:26:00.430
I mean,

01:26:00.850 --> 01:26:02.391
this man's squatting 600-plus

01:26:02.431 --> 01:26:04.314
pounds three or four times.

01:26:04.373 --> 01:26:05.774
We've seen it in the clips.

01:26:06.454 --> 01:26:07.534
That man's got some power.

01:26:07.956 --> 01:26:09.136
And when he gets under your pads,

01:26:09.216 --> 01:26:10.136
it ain't nothing you can do about it.

01:26:10.997 --> 01:26:12.257
He's moving you out of the way.

01:26:12.698 --> 01:26:12.918
Yeah.

01:26:13.578 --> 01:26:15.260
I thought that was – and like I said,

01:26:15.340 --> 01:26:18.181
Gilliam did some good things.

01:26:19.662 --> 01:26:20.963
But I saw some other things

01:26:21.003 --> 01:26:21.923
from some of those guys

01:26:21.944 --> 01:26:23.604
that were just a little

01:26:23.645 --> 01:26:24.886
more impressive than what he showed.

01:26:26.525 --> 01:26:27.386
There's being good and

01:26:27.405 --> 01:26:28.287
there's turning heads.

01:26:28.346 --> 01:26:29.688
It sounds like the other two

01:26:29.728 --> 01:26:31.529
were turning some heads.

01:26:32.751 --> 01:26:35.092
He's a guy that's five, at this point,

01:26:35.132 --> 01:26:36.213
maybe five days in.

01:26:38.336 --> 01:26:39.697
Peoples has played in this

01:26:40.037 --> 01:26:42.479
same system and same

01:26:42.599 --> 01:26:43.659
conference and everything

01:26:44.341 --> 01:26:45.082
for several years.

01:26:46.403 --> 01:26:48.645
He kind of knew exactly what he was doing.

01:26:50.025 --> 01:26:51.346
Defensive line, it ain't a lot of

01:26:52.591 --> 01:26:53.631
It ain't a lot of finesse

01:26:53.671 --> 01:26:56.554
and a lot of things from, you know,

01:26:58.015 --> 01:26:59.275
I coached defensive line

01:26:59.336 --> 01:27:00.396
for a good while.

01:27:02.658 --> 01:27:03.920
It's not a lot of finesse

01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:05.381
and a lot of little bitty

01:27:05.421 --> 01:27:06.202
little things here.

01:27:06.742 --> 01:27:08.604
You know, get your hands on the guy,

01:27:08.663 --> 01:27:08.984
get him out.

01:27:17.354 --> 01:27:18.135
Get him out of the way.

01:27:19.015 --> 01:27:19.914
Just give it 30 seconds.

01:27:19.935 --> 01:27:20.536
That's the best part.

01:27:20.576 --> 01:27:20.716
It's 30.

01:27:21.176 --> 01:27:21.956
It's loading.

01:27:21.975 --> 01:27:22.355
It's loading.

01:27:22.376 --> 01:27:22.916
It's loading.

01:27:24.036 --> 01:27:24.716
He's on the mountain.

01:27:24.756 --> 01:27:25.716
And we're back.

01:27:26.817 --> 01:27:27.197
Almost.

01:27:28.296 --> 01:27:28.997
And we're back.

01:27:29.476 --> 01:27:30.617
How much time did John get?

01:27:31.257 --> 01:27:33.217
We got getting out of the way.

01:27:33.238 --> 01:27:33.898
Getting him out of the way.

01:27:33.917 --> 01:27:35.177
Yeah, he gets him out of the way.

01:27:35.757 --> 01:27:36.118
And, I mean,

01:27:37.019 --> 01:27:39.738
they're very good at that up front.

01:27:40.498 --> 01:27:41.399
It's going to take a lot of

01:27:41.458 --> 01:27:41.998
pressure off the

01:27:42.038 --> 01:27:43.500
linebackers because they're

01:27:43.520 --> 01:27:44.859
going to require so much attention.

01:27:45.987 --> 01:27:46.926
And when you take two of

01:27:46.947 --> 01:27:48.087
those interior guys,

01:27:48.627 --> 01:27:50.667
whether it's Copeland or

01:27:50.707 --> 01:27:52.788
Peebles or Gilliam, Fuga,

01:27:54.849 --> 01:27:55.729
when you're taking that

01:27:55.788 --> 01:27:56.810
much attention from the two

01:27:56.850 --> 01:27:57.989
guards in the center to try

01:27:58.010 --> 01:27:58.810
to stop those two,

01:28:00.109 --> 01:28:01.390
you tell me how effective

01:28:02.411 --> 01:28:04.872
APR is going to be out

01:28:04.912 --> 01:28:06.292
there one-on-one against the tackle.

01:28:07.612 --> 01:28:08.752
Well, that's the best part.

01:28:08.792 --> 01:28:10.592
I think that what you're

01:28:10.632 --> 01:28:12.432
saying is if you put

01:28:12.474 --> 01:28:14.134
Peebles and APR next to each other,

01:28:15.150 --> 01:28:15.810
Basically,

01:28:16.051 --> 01:28:17.110
you are going to be shifting a

01:28:17.150 --> 01:28:18.412
tight end or you're running

01:28:18.452 --> 01:28:20.011
back to the – you've got to

01:28:20.032 --> 01:28:20.752
go play over here.

01:28:21.271 --> 01:28:21.431
Yeah.

01:28:21.471 --> 01:28:22.332
Which is basically going to

01:28:22.351 --> 01:28:24.292
leave one-on-ones everywhere else.

01:28:25.233 --> 01:28:25.792
Everywhere else.

01:28:26.472 --> 01:28:27.833
And then you talk about Copeland,

01:28:27.854 --> 01:28:28.413
what you've seen.

01:28:28.453 --> 01:28:29.713
We saw some flashes from one

01:28:29.753 --> 01:28:30.793
of the young defensive ends

01:28:30.833 --> 01:28:32.213
last year like Cole Nelson.

01:28:33.435 --> 01:28:34.515
JC is going to probably be

01:28:34.534 --> 01:28:35.274
in the air all week.

01:28:35.314 --> 01:28:35.814
Like, listen,

01:28:36.534 --> 01:28:37.715
you're going to get one-on-ones.

01:28:38.136 --> 01:28:38.855
You beat them –

01:28:40.815 --> 01:28:41.756
You start beating them,

01:28:41.777 --> 01:28:42.877
they're going to have to do

01:28:42.917 --> 01:28:43.417
something different.

01:28:43.518 --> 01:28:44.238
And then guess what?

01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:45.420
That means the other side is

01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:46.541
going to get some one-on-ones.

01:28:46.740 --> 01:28:47.902
And we know how they feast.

01:28:48.443 --> 01:28:51.164
So we're going to use four.

01:28:51.645 --> 01:28:52.707
They're going to use five.

01:28:53.407 --> 01:28:55.809
So that means two can block one somewhere.

01:28:56.630 --> 01:28:57.150
Everybody else,

01:28:57.171 --> 01:28:58.271
you've got to win a one-on-one.

01:28:58.712 --> 01:28:58.912
Yep.

01:28:59.832 --> 01:29:01.333
And if they get help,

01:29:01.413 --> 01:29:02.694
it's from a running back.

01:29:04.112 --> 01:29:06.413
I mean, that's just a different situation.

01:29:06.753 --> 01:29:07.454
Yeah.

01:29:07.515 --> 01:29:09.636
And the plus side of that is

01:29:09.655 --> 01:29:10.636
that you're taking guys out

01:29:10.676 --> 01:29:12.198
of the route if you're

01:29:12.217 --> 01:29:13.819
having to chip with the

01:29:13.859 --> 01:29:15.119
running back or leave a

01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:16.841
tight end or anything like that.

01:29:17.542 --> 01:29:18.641
Then you start limiting the

01:29:18.702 --> 01:29:19.502
number of people that can

01:29:19.542 --> 01:29:21.144
catch a ball because they

01:29:21.163 --> 01:29:22.345
got the help here and help there.

01:29:24.942 --> 01:29:26.641
The fact that you can rely

01:29:26.702 --> 01:29:28.302
on that group up front, I think,

01:29:28.842 --> 01:29:29.944
is going to open so much

01:29:30.003 --> 01:29:31.963
more behind with the linebackers.

01:29:33.444 --> 01:29:34.404
It's going to cause double

01:29:34.444 --> 01:29:35.485
teams in some places.

01:29:35.565 --> 01:29:36.286
It's going to give somebody

01:29:36.326 --> 01:29:37.146
else an advantage in a

01:29:37.226 --> 01:29:40.028
one-on-one situation, pass rushing,

01:29:41.007 --> 01:29:41.627
things like that.

01:29:42.229 --> 01:29:43.088
And then you get that.

01:29:43.609 --> 01:29:47.970
That was the shortest.

01:29:48.051 --> 01:29:48.911
Usually we're getting 20

01:29:48.911 --> 01:29:50.152
minutes before the breakdowns.

01:29:56.310 --> 01:29:57.030
you're going to get that

01:29:57.150 --> 01:29:59.131
star from the edge that's

01:29:59.192 --> 01:30:01.172
really going to help some, you know.

01:30:02.252 --> 01:30:03.333
And we know Virginia Tech

01:30:03.354 --> 01:30:04.753
loves a corner blitz here and there.

01:30:05.335 --> 01:30:05.534
Yep.

01:30:05.895 --> 01:30:06.314
So, I mean,

01:30:06.734 --> 01:30:08.315
nobody's expecting that to start with,

01:30:08.376 --> 01:30:09.475
and they're focused all

01:30:09.496 --> 01:30:10.856
their attention on the four up front.

01:30:10.877 --> 01:30:13.337
I mean, he comes screaming through there,

01:30:14.057 --> 01:30:15.038
poor running back trying to

01:30:15.078 --> 01:30:15.719
chip that thing.

01:30:15.738 --> 01:30:16.779
It's trouble.

01:30:17.680 --> 01:30:18.340
Exactly.

01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:21.161
Robbie, anything else?

01:30:21.180 --> 01:30:22.140
We're getting close here to

01:30:22.201 --> 01:30:22.921
wrapping it up.

01:30:24.042 --> 01:30:24.962
Anything else?

01:30:25.002 --> 01:30:26.042
Two and a half hours.

01:30:26.689 --> 01:30:26.970
Huh?

01:30:27.511 --> 01:30:28.350
Y'all were talking about it

01:30:28.371 --> 01:30:30.193
was going to take two and a half hours.

01:30:30.792 --> 01:30:32.274
Well, if we had talked about everything,

01:30:32.333 --> 01:30:33.074
it was going to take two

01:30:33.114 --> 01:30:33.774
and a half hours.

01:30:34.355 --> 01:30:34.435
See,

01:30:34.456 --> 01:30:37.297
that's what I'm tasked with between

01:30:37.417 --> 01:30:40.501
Sigla and Tally and Sheldon.

01:30:41.301 --> 01:30:42.921
Curtis, can we get 90 minutes?

01:30:42.981 --> 01:30:44.463
Like, okay, we can do it, boys.

01:30:45.203 --> 01:30:46.185
Y'all got to listen to me, though.

01:30:47.073 --> 01:30:48.234
Because that's why I like

01:30:48.274 --> 01:30:48.734
State of the Program.

01:30:48.753 --> 01:30:49.194
We stubborn.

01:30:49.413 --> 01:30:50.055
Three hours.

01:30:50.435 --> 01:30:51.255
We stubborn.

01:30:51.335 --> 01:30:52.536
That's why the kickoff show

01:30:52.576 --> 01:30:53.456
goes two and a half.

01:30:53.475 --> 01:30:54.917
Because it's like, I got two and a half.

01:30:54.936 --> 01:30:56.037
I tried to put all my notes

01:30:56.118 --> 01:30:56.898
and everything down.

01:30:57.358 --> 01:30:57.677
I was like,

01:30:57.717 --> 01:30:58.958
I'm not going to get off topic.

01:30:59.059 --> 01:30:59.698
And I'm going to try to

01:30:59.738 --> 01:31:00.779
stick to the position we're

01:31:00.819 --> 01:31:01.340
talking about.

01:31:02.801 --> 01:31:03.280
Y'all remember,

01:31:03.320 --> 01:31:04.021
we went longer than

01:31:04.141 --> 01:31:06.042
Oppenheimer on the State of the Program.

01:31:06.082 --> 01:31:06.943
Well, we were also off.

01:31:06.983 --> 01:31:08.423
Because a lot of people.

01:31:12.881 --> 01:31:15.222
The state of the program

01:31:15.243 --> 01:31:17.945
thing is kind of like dog years.

01:31:18.525 --> 01:31:20.427
It depends on how much you

01:31:20.528 --> 01:31:22.229
had to drink and how much

01:31:22.248 --> 01:31:26.131
you indulged yourself.

01:31:26.393 --> 01:31:28.354
It's state of the program time.

01:31:29.534 --> 01:31:31.317
State of the program.

01:31:31.356 --> 01:31:32.618
Dogs age in dog years.

01:31:34.158 --> 01:31:35.199
As far as I'm concerned,

01:31:36.220 --> 01:31:37.622
most of us only spend about

01:31:38.268 --> 01:31:41.208
hour and a half in standard program time.

01:31:41.248 --> 01:31:44.251
True.

01:31:44.390 --> 01:31:45.631
At varying levels, right?

01:31:45.930 --> 01:31:47.551
At varying levels.

01:31:48.192 --> 01:31:49.953
Most of us started here and

01:31:49.972 --> 01:31:50.653
we went down here.

01:31:50.993 --> 01:31:53.194
We were gone by the end of it.

01:31:53.234 --> 01:31:54.234
Curtis was yelling by the end.

01:31:54.255 --> 01:31:55.114
That's how you knew Curtis.

01:31:55.175 --> 01:31:56.636
That's how you knew I was feeling good.

01:31:56.655 --> 01:31:57.595
I mean,

01:31:57.695 --> 01:31:59.136
I couldn't beat Brian from the year

01:31:59.176 --> 01:32:01.318
before, but I don't know.

01:32:01.377 --> 01:32:02.939
Nobody tried that.

01:32:02.998 --> 01:32:04.139
Please nobody try that.

01:32:04.599 --> 01:32:05.180
That's unsafe.

01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:05.979
That's unsafe.

01:32:06.882 --> 01:32:07.243
Unsafe.

01:32:07.484 --> 01:32:07.923
By the way,

01:32:08.163 --> 01:32:09.746
for those who have never heard that,

01:32:10.207 --> 01:32:11.047
go listen to that.

01:32:11.068 --> 01:32:13.970
A lot of great guests, including Robbie,

01:32:14.331 --> 01:32:16.172
including our wonderful sponsor, Jeremy.

01:32:16.953 --> 01:32:17.554
All of us.

01:32:17.835 --> 01:32:18.855
Dwight's such a beautiful

01:32:18.895 --> 01:32:19.657
little pharmacist.

01:32:22.038 --> 01:32:23.640
We had Dwight on here a couple weeks ago.

01:32:24.121 --> 01:32:24.841
And to tell you how

01:32:24.902 --> 01:32:26.162
inebriated I was that night,

01:32:26.224 --> 01:32:27.204
I texted Dwight.

01:32:28.203 --> 01:32:30.765
You want to come on here?

01:32:30.824 --> 01:32:32.167
I'm just texting people randomly.

01:32:32.186 --> 01:32:32.806
You want to jump on?

01:32:33.027 --> 01:32:33.608
You want to jump on?

01:32:33.828 --> 01:32:34.408
I don't care.

01:32:34.529 --> 01:32:35.869
It's a family atmosphere.

01:32:35.909 --> 01:32:38.632
If you want to hang, come hang.

01:32:38.672 --> 01:32:40.173
We're in trouble in that situation.

01:32:40.514 --> 01:32:41.815
The louder Curtis gets,

01:32:42.536 --> 01:32:46.059
the quieter Brian gets.

01:32:47.900 --> 01:32:48.742
Brian starts the

01:32:51.255 --> 01:32:52.136
leaning in towards the

01:32:52.155 --> 01:32:55.998
camera it's quiet for like

01:32:56.059 --> 01:32:57.059
periods of time and then

01:32:57.078 --> 01:33:00.261
like random loud noises I'm

01:33:00.282 --> 01:33:01.823
just I'm literally you're

01:33:01.842 --> 01:33:02.882
starting on about five

01:33:02.904 --> 01:33:03.944
because I'm loud natured

01:33:04.003 --> 01:33:05.685
anyway and it's just about

01:33:05.746 --> 01:33:07.046
every 30 minutes to stay in

01:33:07.067 --> 01:33:08.367
the program I'm up another

01:33:08.988 --> 01:33:10.248
the crazy part was this

01:33:10.288 --> 01:33:11.829
past year was we're going

01:33:11.930 --> 01:33:13.150
in we're talking about things

01:33:13.649 --> 01:33:14.748
And then suddenly it's like

01:33:14.908 --> 01:33:16.309
everybody just immediately is like,

01:33:16.970 --> 01:33:18.170
wait a minute, where did counts go?

01:33:19.590 --> 01:33:20.470
It screams there,

01:33:20.489 --> 01:33:23.930
but there's nobody there back or,

01:33:24.211 --> 01:33:24.930
or what happened?

01:33:25.030 --> 01:33:27.230
He disappeared into the voice.

01:33:28.192 --> 01:33:28.612
Boy,

01:33:28.752 --> 01:33:30.351
I don't think anything's broken since

01:33:30.391 --> 01:33:31.511
we've been sitting here.

01:33:31.631 --> 01:33:32.551
Nobody else has hit the

01:33:32.591 --> 01:33:33.612
portal for women's

01:33:33.652 --> 01:33:36.453
basketball or men's basketball since,

01:33:36.472 --> 01:33:36.712
you know,

01:33:36.832 --> 01:33:38.292
if we're talking about that too.

01:33:38.912 --> 01:33:39.953
And we did,

01:33:40.373 --> 01:33:41.234
we were talking about the

01:33:41.293 --> 01:33:42.493
different things that, um,

01:33:43.796 --> 01:33:46.038
that I listened to and went

01:33:46.078 --> 01:33:46.979
to while we were there.

01:33:48.541 --> 01:33:50.563
And, you know,

01:33:50.582 --> 01:33:51.243
you're talking about the

01:33:51.283 --> 01:33:53.944
portal and all that and

01:33:53.984 --> 01:33:54.805
learning some of the new

01:33:54.865 --> 01:33:55.867
recruiting stuff and how

01:33:55.907 --> 01:33:58.509
this portal stuff is changing things.

01:33:59.489 --> 01:34:02.212
And, like, they discuss a little bit about,

01:34:03.332 --> 01:34:03.673
you know,

01:34:03.753 --> 01:34:05.614
their commitment to high school

01:34:05.635 --> 01:34:07.036
players and the high school

01:34:07.055 --> 01:34:08.136
guys and things like that

01:34:08.597 --> 01:34:09.618
and those relationships.

01:34:11.365 --> 01:34:12.287
Just a little piece I wanted

01:34:12.306 --> 01:34:13.046
to throw in there.

01:34:14.427 --> 01:34:16.149
That's the way they're building program,

01:34:16.689 --> 01:34:17.449
and that's the way they

01:34:17.470 --> 01:34:18.489
want to continue to build it.

01:34:19.069 --> 01:34:19.831
And there may be some

01:34:19.850 --> 01:34:21.412
changes coming through

01:34:21.471 --> 01:34:22.992
recruiting stuff and how

01:34:23.592 --> 01:34:25.113
they're doing visits and

01:34:25.172 --> 01:34:26.213
all kinds of things like that.

01:34:27.274 --> 01:34:30.115
I feel like they're not too

01:34:30.176 --> 01:34:31.497
worried about all those things.

01:34:31.537 --> 01:34:32.237
They're going to take it in

01:34:32.277 --> 01:34:35.059
stride and keep moving and

01:34:35.139 --> 01:34:36.219
live on the relationships

01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:37.220
that they've built and

01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:38.619
continue to do that.

01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:39.720
And I think that's a great thing.

01:34:40.492 --> 01:34:42.153
for us as fans,

01:34:42.953 --> 01:34:45.136
for our athletes that are

01:34:45.235 --> 01:34:47.198
in what they call their footprint.

01:34:48.519 --> 01:34:49.460
I think it's a great thing.

01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:55.064
And I commend Coach Prye and

01:34:55.144 --> 01:34:56.845
his staff for taking that

01:34:56.905 --> 01:34:58.087
stance and doing those

01:34:58.146 --> 01:35:00.668
things and not falling too

01:35:00.708 --> 01:35:03.230
far into what all of this could be.

01:35:04.612 --> 01:35:06.213
I think that's a stand-up thing,

01:35:06.253 --> 01:35:07.635
and that's a big thing for the program.

01:35:08.467 --> 01:35:10.328
Robbie, when you mentioned that to us,

01:35:10.368 --> 01:35:14.192
to me, it's, Ted, how invested they are.

01:35:14.851 --> 01:35:15.953
Because they're trying to

01:35:16.012 --> 01:35:17.793
help y'all as high school coaches,

01:35:18.194 --> 01:35:19.534
even though everything's

01:35:19.574 --> 01:35:20.636
not set in stone yet.

01:35:21.136 --> 01:35:22.737
This is the direction things are going.

01:35:22.756 --> 01:35:23.556
We're going to have to do

01:35:23.636 --> 01:35:24.278
things different.

01:35:24.698 --> 01:35:25.779
That really helps us.

01:35:26.979 --> 01:35:28.119
it's a great look on the staff,

01:35:28.140 --> 01:35:29.979
but it's also helps y'all as coaches,

01:35:30.020 --> 01:35:31.701
like how we prepare for visits,

01:35:32.301 --> 01:35:33.461
how we prepare for going to

01:35:33.501 --> 01:35:34.561
take players to schools.

01:35:34.601 --> 01:35:35.641
How do we prepare for this?

01:35:35.702 --> 01:35:37.643
Because what y'all don't want to do,

01:35:37.682 --> 01:35:38.502
if you've got a kid who's

01:35:38.523 --> 01:35:39.403
getting highly recruited

01:35:39.722 --> 01:35:40.984
and it's regardless where he's going,

01:35:41.024 --> 01:35:41.224
right.

01:35:41.543 --> 01:35:42.363
Regardless of where he's

01:35:42.384 --> 01:35:43.345
going for recruiting trip,

01:35:43.744 --> 01:35:45.045
you don't want like, listen,

01:35:45.085 --> 01:35:46.565
we can't do X, Y, and Z. Yeah.

01:35:47.905 --> 01:35:48.726
We can't do that.

01:35:49.146 --> 01:35:49.828
And if you're out there

01:35:49.868 --> 01:35:50.507
getting ahead of it,

01:35:50.547 --> 01:35:51.748
it makes your life a lot

01:35:51.809 --> 01:35:53.690
easier versus if he does X, Y,

01:35:53.711 --> 01:35:54.572
and Z. Now I've got to pull

01:35:54.591 --> 01:35:56.073
them in the side Monday morning and said,

01:35:56.292 --> 01:35:57.573
you did these three things, right?

01:35:57.634 --> 01:35:58.113
Yeah, I did.

01:35:58.534 --> 01:35:59.314
You went on an official,

01:35:59.335 --> 01:36:00.296
then you can't go back there.

01:36:00.756 --> 01:36:00.936
Yeah.

01:36:01.337 --> 01:36:03.158
And like, what do you mean coach?

01:36:03.559 --> 01:36:04.219
You can't do that.

01:36:04.659 --> 01:36:06.280
So I love that they're doing that, man.

01:36:06.661 --> 01:36:08.042
Well, it's expectations.

01:36:08.063 --> 01:36:09.024
When you have clear

01:36:09.083 --> 01:36:12.247
expectations of what a

01:36:12.287 --> 01:36:14.650
staff is going to do from a

01:36:15.271 --> 01:36:16.393
footprint standpoint,

01:36:17.173 --> 01:36:19.277
you can prepare your players for that.

01:36:19.317 --> 01:36:20.759
You can have those discussions.

01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:23.261
And I think that's going to

01:36:23.282 --> 01:36:24.863
be big long term because, you know,

01:36:25.965 --> 01:36:26.805
Just talking NIL,

01:36:26.826 --> 01:36:29.109
I think we have a very good NIL situation,

01:36:29.729 --> 01:36:30.810
but it's a whole lot easier

01:36:30.850 --> 01:36:33.453
to use that NIL to retain

01:36:33.512 --> 01:36:35.735
players than it is to go

01:36:35.796 --> 01:36:36.636
out there and flip your

01:36:36.676 --> 01:36:38.798
roster with 10 or 12 players every cycle.

01:36:40.586 --> 01:36:42.668
So I think that's going to be the most,

01:36:43.168 --> 01:36:44.810
the best use of our NIL

01:36:44.850 --> 01:36:45.971
money is retaining players,

01:36:46.032 --> 01:36:46.752
making sure we're not

01:36:46.792 --> 01:36:49.636
getting poached by those bigger teams,

01:36:50.016 --> 01:36:51.238
by those blue blood teams.

01:36:51.859 --> 01:36:53.780
And then, you know,

01:36:53.860 --> 01:36:55.182
working that in with

01:36:55.363 --> 01:36:56.404
recruiting the footprint as

01:36:56.444 --> 01:36:57.265
hard as we can,

01:36:58.065 --> 01:37:00.048
still being a developmental player.

01:37:01.128 --> 01:37:04.951
program while supplementing any holes that,

01:37:04.970 --> 01:37:05.011
uh,

01:37:05.270 --> 01:37:06.952
that kind of occur in the roster

01:37:07.351 --> 01:37:08.332
through the transfer portal.

01:37:08.372 --> 01:37:10.293
Like we did this, this past off season,

01:37:10.934 --> 01:37:12.074
getting the mic and, and,

01:37:12.335 --> 01:37:13.876
and retooling the defensive line.

01:37:14.395 --> 01:37:14.555
Yeah.

01:37:14.595 --> 01:37:15.957
They're, they're, they're very,

01:37:16.096 --> 01:37:17.596
they're very upfront and open about,

01:37:18.497 --> 01:37:20.198
you know, their, their plan is to,

01:37:20.279 --> 01:37:21.319
to build the relationships

01:37:21.378 --> 01:37:24.701
in that footprint to, um,

01:37:25.868 --> 01:37:27.710
to fill their roster with

01:37:27.750 --> 01:37:28.850
the kids that they know

01:37:29.532 --> 01:37:32.515
want to be at Virginia Tech.

01:37:32.694 --> 01:37:35.596
And they want to build that way.

01:37:36.238 --> 01:37:37.618
They want to build those kids.

01:37:37.739 --> 01:37:38.579
They're not afraid to

01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:41.082
develop kids and push them

01:37:41.122 --> 01:37:42.564
because when they want to be there,

01:37:42.864 --> 01:37:43.685
they don't have to worry

01:37:43.744 --> 01:37:45.287
about somebody swooping in to take them

01:37:46.738 --> 01:37:47.637
know because because they

01:37:47.658 --> 01:37:50.139
want to be there yeah 100

01:37:50.139 --> 01:37:51.998
we can and as he said we

01:37:52.038 --> 01:37:53.779
can use the portal to fill

01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:55.399
holes that of things that

01:37:55.439 --> 01:37:58.320
didn't go our way and you

01:37:58.360 --> 01:38:00.001
know we've seen that in the

01:38:00.060 --> 01:38:01.942
last couple of years it's

01:38:01.981 --> 01:38:03.082
filling the holes filling

01:38:03.101 --> 01:38:03.981
the little things that we

01:38:04.021 --> 01:38:05.761
didn't get through you know

01:38:05.842 --> 01:38:06.962
recruiting parts but

01:38:07.002 --> 01:38:07.882
they're filling a lot of

01:38:07.922 --> 01:38:09.502
things recruiting wise yes

01:38:09.542 --> 01:38:11.543
they are and I mean that's

01:38:11.644 --> 01:38:14.144
a that's a to be able to

01:38:14.184 --> 01:38:16.225
take a young kid in today's society

01:38:16.931 --> 01:38:18.193
and have them understand

01:38:18.252 --> 01:38:19.975
what it means to commit to

01:38:20.015 --> 01:38:22.698
a place and to love a place

01:38:22.757 --> 01:38:25.761
enough to know, regardless of, well,

01:38:26.402 --> 01:38:27.382
so-and-so told me they

01:38:27.403 --> 01:38:28.184
could give me this much

01:38:28.243 --> 01:38:30.405
money and a new car to be playing there.

01:38:31.807 --> 01:38:33.168
I want to be at Virginia Tech.

01:38:33.429 --> 01:38:34.671
Well, they didn't offer you a car.

01:38:34.951 --> 01:38:35.712
Well, I don't care.

01:38:35.731 --> 01:38:37.713
I want to be there in that program.

01:38:37.753 --> 01:38:38.914
I want to be with that coach.

01:38:50.096 --> 01:38:50.856
Give you 20 seconds.

01:38:51.738 --> 01:38:52.377
We're on delay.

01:38:55.439 --> 01:38:55.899
And there we are.

01:38:56.801 --> 01:38:57.341
And he's back.

01:38:58.162 --> 01:39:00.582
And I think that says a lot

01:39:00.622 --> 01:39:01.944
about their approach to

01:39:01.963 --> 01:39:04.104
things and why you're going

01:39:04.125 --> 01:39:05.685
to get that continuity and

01:39:05.725 --> 01:39:07.867
consistency through what they're doing.

01:39:07.886 --> 01:39:07.867
100%.

01:39:09.387 --> 01:39:09.988
All right.

01:39:10.769 --> 01:39:11.368
Well, boys,

01:39:11.649 --> 01:39:12.470
I'm going to wrap up this

01:39:12.529 --> 01:39:13.591
episode of the Boundary

01:39:13.650 --> 01:39:14.810
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01:40:03.626 --> 01:40:05.265
Appreciate you coming on again, Robbie.

01:40:05.345 --> 01:40:06.567
Robbie's fifth appearance.

01:40:06.766 --> 01:40:08.127
You still trailed Dwight,

01:40:09.347 --> 01:40:10.069
but that means you want to

01:40:10.088 --> 01:40:11.810
come on a lot more to catch up to him.

01:40:12.310 --> 01:40:13.189
This is your fifth.

01:40:14.091 --> 01:40:14.230
Hey.

01:40:15.532 --> 01:40:17.273
I can't compare it to a Vic

01:40:17.472 --> 01:40:18.932
when it comes to anything Virginia Tech.

01:40:19.694 --> 01:40:19.953
Yo,

01:40:19.993 --> 01:40:21.453
are we going to start the SNL thing

01:40:21.493 --> 01:40:22.774
with the five-timers club?

01:40:22.814 --> 01:40:24.435
Like, are we going to get some sort of,

01:40:24.456 --> 01:40:24.676
like,

01:40:24.876 --> 01:40:26.475
T-shirt or some shit that we pass out?

01:40:26.536 --> 01:40:27.136
We could.

01:40:27.157 --> 01:40:28.077
We could create one.

01:40:28.176 --> 01:40:29.597
You know, put their faces on the back.

01:40:30.097 --> 01:40:31.257
Sell it as a merchandise

01:40:31.297 --> 01:40:32.059
shop boundary corner.

01:40:32.698 --> 01:40:34.139
Your face, Dwight Vic's face,

01:40:34.198 --> 01:40:35.119
Mike McDaniel,

01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:36.720
David Cunningham's face is on the back.

01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:37.501
That'd be pretty funny.

01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:38.961
My goal, just for tally,

01:40:39.020 --> 01:40:40.141
is to make it a good 44 times.

01:40:41.069 --> 01:40:43.671
There we go.

01:40:43.952 --> 01:40:44.492
All right, brother.

01:40:44.551 --> 01:40:45.613
I think when Matej comes

01:40:45.673 --> 01:40:46.554
back later this month,

01:40:46.595 --> 01:40:47.494
he'll officially be in the

01:40:47.534 --> 01:40:48.355
five-timers club.

01:40:48.376 --> 01:40:49.457
He will be.

01:40:49.516 --> 01:40:50.719
Actually, he might be more than that now.

01:40:50.738 --> 01:40:51.979
He might be the six-timers club.

01:40:52.260 --> 01:40:52.801
But anyways,

01:40:52.820 --> 01:40:54.622
we thank you all out there for listening,

01:40:54.641 --> 01:40:56.503
especially out on Twitter tonight.

01:40:56.524 --> 01:40:58.466
Appreciate y'all hanging out with us.

01:40:59.067 --> 01:41:00.488
As always, boys, let's go.

01:41:00.507 --> 01:41:01.869
Hokies.